Comments on: Fedor Emelianenko Wins Gold at Russian Combat Sambo Championship

By: muaythai4life

muaythai4life — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:00:08 +0000

I don’t think to be best P4P you have to be questionably considered best in every category of MMA, BJ Penn is not the best wrestler or striker, but his Jits is insane. A Silva is not the best wrestler by far, but his striking and jits are great! GSP is not the best BJJ guy, neither is Randy (if we still consider him up for nomination) sooo I disagree with that statement.

By: Vinz_Clortho

Vinz_Clortho — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:06:29 +0000

When most of the fighters that people put in the p4p best bracket say that Fedor is p4p best and beyond any other fighter then I think you people should stop crying he isn’t in the UFC.

UFC heavyweight is balls division anyways.

(play nice -Justin)

By: Justin

Justin — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:23:51 +0000

The whole thing about the weight difference, that’s part of being a heavyweight, if you can’t handle the potential weight gap, lose some weight and fight at 205. Lesnar is one of the few people in MMA that are that big, and still athletic. In the past there were guys that big, but they just weren’t that athletic.

To limit the weight difference between fighters you would have to create a super-heavy weight class, and as thin as HW has been, it would be a bad idea to break it up into two weight classes.

By: Justin

Justin — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:20:17 +0000

Maybe Carwin, GG is 256, Niel Grove is pretty big too… off the top of my head.

By: Gibor

Gibor — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:52:28 +0000

who are any ufc guys as heavy as lesnar?

By: Gibor

Gibor — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:41:00 +0000

Lesnar vs Fedor?

Fedor is da King, but…

Lesnar is just so big as well as fast!

I see a pretty big chance for Lesnar to be able to overcome Fedor.
Having said that I dont think it would be a fair fight.
Lesnar is too big to be considered fair.

There should be a limit on how much weight difference there is between the fighters, unless it isnt a ’sporting fight’ but a freak show circus attraction.

does anybody agree with me that Lesnar is too heavy for most guys?
How about lesnar vs tim silvia

By: gunslinger

gunslinger — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:34:42 +0000

will you give ground control to fedor > lesnar..theres no way….lesnar would destroy fedor on the ground via ground and pound rape knees to the ribs like in his herring fight

By: willyd

willyd — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:10:36 +0000

I think in order to be the best in the division or even P4P, you need to be in the conversation when comparing all aspects of MMA; striking ability, striking defense, take downs, take down defense, ring control, ground control, submissions, etc. Of the 7 I have listed, I honestly believe Fedor is better then Lesnar in only 2 categories, ground control and submissions. The reason I give the others to Lesnar; his striking my be slower, but it’s like a keg coming at your head with a lot of power; striking defense because he has yet to take a real punch that has daised him; take downs with his size and college wrestling background; take down defense same as take downs; ring control by his size, speed, and ability to make angles.

Most the fighters we talk about P4P best, can be argued in everyone of these categories as why they are the best at it. All but Fedor, IMO.

By: brandon

brandon — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:46:59 +0000

I think that Fedor is the best HW, the next is Brock Lesnar and MAYBE Barnett. That being said I fully believe that Lesnar’s wrestling/size/power are the things that put him up there, not his all around MMA skill. I just don’t think many (any) HW’s will be able to beat him simply because of his size. I also think Mir’s victory was a fluke and won’t repeat, but we will see. So that being said I think the best HW’s isn’t an organization argument. Because the UFC has 5 of the top 10 doesn’t mean much for that division.

Gabriel Gonzaga gasses out every fight he doesn’t finish in R1, He is powerful but if he can’t land huge bombs he isn’t a danger in striking, His BJJ is great, but only really utilized on garbage fighters

Randy Couture – love the guy to death! one of my all time favorite fighters, and I think there are a LOT of HW’s he still beats, but he’s no real threat to anyone for the title anymore (Unless another Sylvia gains the title.) He won’t ever beat Brock, and I think Fedor would take him too. Barnett would also be a problem for Randy and I think AA would break him as well.

Herring is good for sure, not a title contender, not a threat to Brock/Nog/Fedor

Nog has always suffered in striking, not a threat to people with good BJJ defence

So my point is that Fedor is the top HW in the world, Lesnar is the top HW in the UFC and will force the HW division to change for sure, but he is not fighting competition at the same level that Fedor is (Mir, Herring, Mir again?), Couture withstanding, and so Fedor’s competition is still stronger than Lesnars.

By: justin

justin — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:22:04 +0000

Well considering you mentioned the roster that PRIDE *HAD* and UFC *HAD* two+ years ago, what does that have to do with “who *HAS* the better HW’s?” (emphasis added) In terms of who has the better HWs, Affliction has 2 or 3 of the top 10, DREAM has 2, and the UFC has the other 5-6. So while Affliction may have the two best in a lot of people’s eyes (Barnett, Fedor) If you take their top five against the UFC top 5, Affliction comes out 2-3 at best, IMO.