UFC Fight Night 17 Discussion Thread
Posted by Kris Karkoski on Feb 7, 2009 at 5:49 pm ET20 Comments
Joe Lauzon and Jeremy Stephens
Welcome to MMAFrenzy.com’s discussion thread for UFC Fight Night 17: Lauzon vs. Stephens.
The event, which will be broadcast live on Spike TV, is headlined by a lightweight showdown between Joe Lauzon and Jeremy Stepehens and also features Denis Stojnic vs. Cain Velasquez, Mac Danzig vs. Josh Neer, and Luigi Fioravanti vs. Anthony Johnson .
MMAFrenzy.com will not be able to provide live coverage of tonight’s event due to technical issues (I don’t yet have internet at my new townhouse), but we’ll post results, a recap, and other post-event news after the card concludes. Until then, feel free to discuss tonight’s event and share other MMA happenings in the comments below.
Enjoy the fights!
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my hopes to win:
Joe Lauzon
josh Neer, my home town Des moines, Iowa
Cain Velasquez
Luigi Fioravanti
i think tey’ll all win to but mac danzig vs josh neer don’t know whos gonna win both very good can’t wait to watch
If your from DSM, IA. why would you hope for a Lauzon win? Stephens is from DSM and puts on for our city more than anyone from Iowa!
excited to see boom boom johnson, i think he will make short work off luigi, got a feeling danzig will win (hope he gets beat) got joe subbing stephens first round.
Lugi looked pretty good in his fight against Sanchez. Lasted a lot longer than I thought he would. I think Lauzon is incredibly over favored and can see Stephens pulling off the upset. Looking for another devastating performance from Cain!!
Lauzon (2nd round sub)
Mac Danzig
Cain will be up for manslaughter after this match
Luigi will win this
heres my picks…
im goin out on a limb here and pickin the upset…
Stephens – KO 3rd round
Velasquez – TKO 2nd round ( i think he almost finishes him in the first but not quite quick enough)
Danzig – Submission (rear naked choke) 3rd round
Johnson KO first
i also kind of want jeremy stephans to win because also another Iowa guy
I wish the riddle fight was on the main card. He is gonna be a huge 170. With his ground skills and powerful hands, he could be someone to watch once he has a few more fights.
My picks, copied from the weigh-in page.
Grice UD 3/5
Lauzon Choke 1/3
Riddle Choke 1/3
Miller Choke 2/4
Johnson TKO 1/3
Catone Choke 2/3
Emerson TKO 1/3
Velasquez TKO 1/3
Clementi UD 3/5
Danzig Arm 2/4
I’m really disappointed in the content of the broadcast. Too many “sneak previews” of crappy movies and video games. Street Fighter 4, more important than a fight? Really? Crappy remake if Friday the 13th?
I don’t normally complain about free cards, but I’m making an exception here because I’m not bi tching about the quality of the fights, but rather the quality of the broadcast. How about we try showing more than two fights, one of which ended in the first round, during the first hour?
Agreed.
Also, Stojnic was OUT CLASSED.
Get a TiVo. Start watching like a half hour late. That’s what I do.
They have to sell time to sponsors in order to bring is free fights.
All the fights were good as well and we got to see some under card fights. No complaints from me.
*us. Sorry blackberry smart type bs.
Watched on DVR, I practically fast forwarded the first 20 minutes of the broad cast.
I’m not complaining that there were free fights, and the fights were good. I just don’t want soooo much ad time. I think that for the casual viewer this could be a big turn off. I am glad though that we got to see a couple of the under card fights.
10 minutes of fighting in an hour is ridiculous. Normally I defend free cards from people who rag them. And this one is no exception. These were good fights.
BUT….total payout is going to be about 400k for this card. Tops. To make us slog through 15 minutes of “sneak” previews is just wrong. Toss in the ad breaks (after a 10 minute intro) and you’re looking at a 4-1 ads-to-fights ratio.
That was just crappy.
Waugh did a great job moving to watch for a tap on the Lauzon win.
Also…the UFC fantasy site is calling Lauzon’s win a choke? Lame.
Yeah, I noticed… freakin ridiculous…. but I gain points by their mistake.
I lose points. Bastards.
—Misc UFC thoughts
Time to give Anthony Johnson a big fight — top five — where the winner gets a title shot.
The UFC should do more free TV fights. Especially fighters ranked outside of the top ten. Keep the pay per view focused on the C in UFC, actual championship fights and top ten fights leading to a title shot.
Brand new fighters should not have to fight established vets. They are far too frequently fed to the lions. Why not have the new fighters fight each other ?
—Fights I’d like to see
Couture should fight big nog
Machida should fight Evans
There should be a four man tourney to establish the fighter to next get a title shot against A. Silva. The fighters should include:
Dan Henderson (4-2)
Demian Maia (4-0)
Nate Marquardt (6-2)
Michael Bisping (7-1)
Alternate = Patrick Cote (4-5)
Okami should fight A Silva.
T. Alves should fight GSP
There should be a four man tourney to establish the next title shot–
Jon Fitch (9-1)
Josh Koscheck (9-2)
Mike Swick (8-1)
Matt Hughes (16-5)
– If Fitch and Koscheck won’t fight each other they should be required to survive TWO additional fights from top ten fighters.
There should be a four man tourney to establish who’s the man among the following;
Carlos Condit (0-0)
Marcus Davis (8-2)
karo Parisyan (9-3)
Matt Serra (6-5)
Gray Maynard should get a top five fight.
There should be a four man tourney among the following:
Sean Sherk
Tyson Griffin (5-2)
Joe Stevenson (6-3)
Gray Maynard
Alternate Clay Guida