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BJ Penn vs. GSP 3 May Be On The Way

Posted by Justin H on Feb 6, 2009 at 2:04 pm ET66 Comments
Georges St-Pierre Punches BJ Penn at UFC 94

Georges St-Pierre Punches BJ Penn at UFC 94

In response to all the controversy surrounding the beating that UFC Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre doled out to Lightweight Champion BJ Penn at UFC 94, GSP spoke with MMAWeekly Radio on Wednesday, making the following statements:

George St. Pierre’s successful welterweight title defense at UFC 94 was the direct result of his disciplined preparation and skillful execution of a masterful gameplan. Any implication to the contrary would diminish the significance of what was perhaps the biggest fight in MMA history.

I have never cheated in my life, and as my fans know, I am deeply committed to upholding the integrity of the sport. My entire camp and I have been completely open about what happened during my fight at UFC 94 – we have nothing to hide.

Of course it’s up to the UFC, but I would be happy to offer B.J. a second rematch. I am confident the outcome will be the same.

Team GSP is currently enjoying our victory celebration and we will soon turn our attention and focus toward Georges’ next competitor – Thiago Alves.

Late Thursday evening, a response was posted at BJ Penn.com that read:

For the past several days I have been reading statements made by St. Pierre and Greg Jackson about our fight on January 31. St. Pierre claims that he is “not a cheater” and that he and Greg Jackson will have “no problem with a rematch in the summer of 2009.” To the untrained eye the grease might not look like much, but every grappler knows the effect that it has. Being able to apply your submissions and sweeps or just being able to hold on to your opponent to defend yourself from being hit is absolutely critical! There is a reason why you are not allowed to put grease anywhere on your body except for the area around your eyes. Because of the grease applied to St.Pierre’s Body the Nevada State Athletic Commission’s executive director, Keith Kizer has stated that the Penn-St. Pierre fight “definitely wasn’t fair.” I hereby accept George St. Pierre and Greg Jackson’s challenge for a fight in the summer 2009. Lets call Dana now and set it up.

- BJ Penn

At this point there has been no word from UFC President Dana White regarding the matter, but this writer expects that we will see Penn and St. Pierre defending their belts against Kenny Florian, and Thiago Alves, respectively, before the promotion gives any real consideration to a rematch. That considered, it doesn’t look like a rematch would happen this summer, if at all, but the stage is certainly being set.

One thing for those who may claim, “GSP is 2-0 against BJ, and he dominated him the last time, why would we want to see this again?” Think about the series between Quinton Jackson, and Wanderlei Silva. Which is not to necessarily imply that a similar turn of events is predicted or expected, but rather, “Anything can happen in MMA.”

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  • Jerod says:

    I love it. I absolutely love it. BJ’s response is priceless. This has shades of an old-school WWF script, but I still love it.

    • Jerod says:

      My guess is during the third fight when the ref is not looking, Nate Marquardt will come in and crumple BJ with a folding chair or the ring bell and escape undetected.

      • Cole Miller says:

        lol awesome…

      • nev-o says:

        dude he is a rich baby! he will lose again! and retire and cry about it! he would lose to kenny florian too! i think when bj retires they should have a tournament for the lighweight title. like kenny and sherk, diaz and guida, stevenson spencer fisher like and eight man tourney that would be nice

      • onlytrue1 says:

        JEROD

        That is tooooo hilarious!!!! LOL. LOL!!!
        Priceless dude priceless!!

  • Cole Miller says:

    sweet. I would love to see a third meeting….ofcourse w/o all the vaseline all over gsp’s back. Can’t wait to see alves and florian step up too. good fights.

    anyone watch vaselinegate yet?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCYB1XP5LUc

  • drillbitt says:

    “Lets go do a rematch with B.J. Penn,” said St. Pierre. “We’re going to do it this summer. St. Pierre-Penn III — and this time we’ll wear a rash guard. I guarantee you the result will be the same or even worse for him.”

    Quote from the rest of the interview.

    Be careful what you wish for BJ.

  • willyd says:

    BJ, BJ, BJ….. you my boy Blue, but you get smashed this time, you need to shut it up! I love when you are cocky as hell, but this time, train, train, train. Less talkie, more workie, ok??

    If it doesn’t happen, great, focus on KFlo and defending your title.

  • chuck says:

    Ill pay to watch GSP whoop BJ once a month if thats what BJ wants….Vaseline is a part of every fight….these guys have it rubbed off their face onto their body in almost every fight! No excuse for BJ!

  • chuck says:

    Every time they reach up at their face to see if they are cut they rub it onto their golves…..Cmon this arguement is dead.,…

  • GarRule says:

    If I was GSP, I’d take the fight in a second…it was the easiest $400,000 the guy ever made.

  • jaymz says:

    The Jackson/Silva comparison is kinda weak,as they are naturally in the same weight division.

  • seemore says:

    hummmm…BJ, BJ, BJ…you lost. case closed. move on.

  • Jerod says:

    My only caveat to the GSP fans is despite the second fight being a complete and utter manhandling, all it ever takes is a quick split-second submission and it’s over. So be careful when you think the third fight, if it ever happens, will follow right where the second one left off. BJ is known to submit cats from time to time. He is still very dangerous in that component of the fight game, depite whether or not he is in the process of being handled.

  • esopteradactyl says:

    I can’t help but think that BJ is all talk in this situation. Im a big bj fan but he knows what will happen if he gets in the octagon with GSP again grease or no grease. GSP is too big, too strong, and too smart for BJ to beat him. BJ…STAY AT LW WHERE YOU ARE THE BEST!

  • Mmagod says:

    Would a third bout be completely bad..yes and no. If they meet this summer it could help gain interest for UFC 100( which is supposed to contain 5 title defences) in the mean time kenflo can fight the winner of either sanchez vs jDaddy or sherk vs Edgar for the ufc 100 lw title shot and thiago can fight swick fir the next ww title shot. After Asilva dominates he can face Nate M or Hendo for ufc 100. As we know The lhw title shot Will be jacksons or machidas bases on ufc 96. And. Finally The winner of mir vs lesnar should face kongo or gonzaga at 100 based on their next bouts. And lastly for The Bad, i am just as much a bj fan as a GSP fan but if penn wins The third bout this Will have messed things up for The 5 title defences. Maybe a lw intrim belt in that case?Too bad things can’t be like ufc 1 a 5 weight class 3round elimnation tourny would be a dream. Either way ufc 100 will be epic.

    • dbiz says:

      Florian should not have to fight anyone before his title shot. He has demolished everyone but Penn. He’s been waiting for months to ge this shot. BJ needs to man up and give it to him.

      Silva will absolutely NOT face Hendo at 100 since, it is my understanding, that is before the finale for TUF which Hendo is coaching. Hendo gets Bisping as his next fight, unless Dana really messes up his coach v. coach plans.

      If they do 5 title defenses at UFC 100, you won’t see another one until the Dec. PPV. People complain about the cards now? Those will ALL universally suck for 6 months.

      Dana, if you have a brain in that giant, egg-shaped dome, do NOT fuk up 6 months of cards just so UFC 100 can be a super card.

      • Cole Miller says:

        really the ufc roster is so stacked anymore, I prob wouldn’t mind it…plus that would be killer seeing 5 championship bouts in one night….prob would be hard to sign the fighters though….they’ll want alot of money…and we all know how Dana is cheap skate when it comes to paying fighters…

      • dbiz says:

        I doubt you’ll be able to do a heavyweight championship match with only a month and a half turnaround. I doubt either of them will have the chance to get off suspension and train. There is really only a possibility of 4. And even that is too much, since it would be at least a year before BJ fought again, assuming he wins.

        Also, most of the fighters are signed to a multi-fight contract. Their pay is laid out already. Perhaps they could try to negotiate a higher gate and/or PPV %, but you’re looking at an 8-10 way split of what Zuffa doesn’t take from the gate/PPV.

        No, your little dream there is likely to be just that.

      • Figs says:

        I think UFC 100 will be…

        Evans vs Machida
        St. Pierre vs. Alves
        Penn vs. Florian
        Contender vs. Contender
        Contender vs. Contender

        If they REALLY want to make it stacked than one of the contenders should be Henderson vs. Bisping.

        The only problem I see with huge cards like this is that they’re going to run out of gas in the tannk and will stop cashing in on the what will be bored casual fans.

  • zac says:

    i guess BJ is going to have to change his training regimen to include chasing around little greased up french guys.

  • jenkinsss says:

    hahaha why would anyone compare penn-gsp to rampage-wanderlei?
    rampage-wanderlei fights were by far more exciting, more striking, two bigger fighters, different styles as penn-gsp, and each time wanderlei won, he won DECISIVELY. like wow. and rampage knocked wanderlei out in the blink of an eye. gsp and penn are nothing like rampage and wandy.

    even if by some small chance bj does submit penn…..gsp will still have won the series 2-1…. the trash talk between the two is goingto go on forever until one of them kills the other. literally. this is stupid to have a rematch. i wouldnt wanna see it. but either way….i take GSP split decision. then BJ can b**** some more about losing a close or “unfair” fight. jesus christ.

    • justin says:

      BJ v. GSP 1, GSP won a close decision war.
      BJ v. GSP 2, GSP won decisively.
      BJ v. GSP 3, Could be Aoki style sub out of thin air, by BJ.

      My point has nothing to do with style or size of the combatants.

      The only comparison I’m making is that a lot of people were saying (my self included) that “Rampage was going to get owned by Wandy,” “the fight shouldn’t be happening,” “Its 2-0 why are we seeing number 3?” Then look what happened, Rampage shocked the world with a quick KO. Anything could happen in MMA, and BJ could win number 3. Sure, it would still be 2-1, but so is Wandy v. Rampage, but who now is complaining about having seen them go at it a third time?

      • jenkinsss says:

        hahaha i picked rampage to dominate wanderlei so i know for a fact that bj could win and shock the world and all that bull. point is, they both need to shut up and defend their own damn titles in their divisions. im not complaining if they do fight again, im just saying all the hype isnt going to be as good. And unlike rampage-wandy, if gsp loses the third time around, i bet he will want a rematch. Him and BJ arent the kinda guys who lose and just let it go…
        no one complained about rampage and wandy fighting a third time? obviously?
        this is different though.
        gsp seems mad now, i dont think ive ever heard him sound so crazed for a rematch before, so BJ should be careful with his words this time around.
        if they do fight….gsp by split decision, callin it right now and stickin to my word.
        i think alves might beat gsp anyways so..

  • jenkinsss says:

    and regardless of the vaseline, BJ will probably just gas again, just as 90% of the time he always does. GSP will just jab jab jab then push penn up against the fence and use his strength and size. i feel sorry for BJ because all this **** is never gonna end regardless of who wins if this fight happens.

  • ryan says:

    this is lame, how many times does bj have to be beat? how come he cant just say gsp is a better fighter instead of talking **** and not able to back up his mouth, if his training did as much work as his mouth he’d be best pound for pounder, gsp is the prodigy hes what every fighter needs to be like, bjs a big baby

    as for comparison to rampage and wandeli, they arent even same fighters they used to be, thats why it was exciting, idk how many more times ill pay $50 to watch bj get beat up by gsp, its exciting but gets old

    • justin says:

      Technically, GSP was the one that issued the challenge this time.

      • Lisa Berry says:

        The reason GSP wants a rematch is because Penn is saying he cheated.. St Pierre is by far my favorite fighter not because hes the best but because of his integrity and committment to the sport. Of course he welcomes a rematch, he knows he didnt cheat and it would be fun to watch Penn get owned again. Penn needs to stop crying about his losses and just suck it up. He lost to a bigger, better, more disciplined fighter, maybe if Penn had trained as hard as St Pierre he would’ve had a shot, very miniscule but at least a shot.

  • Ed says:

    There is a corny radio ad that plays where I live. Its a former NFL coach talking about the “will to win”. He basically states in football the “will to win” does not get you far, what you need is the “will to prepare”. I think the same applies to MMA. Hopefully if there is a remach BJ exibits the will to prepare so the fight is less one sided.

  • Jazzkok says:

    Damn dude just when i think this can’t get any crazier. BJ’s seriously a little punk dude. I mean, let it go dude. Just like chuck owns tito, and rampage owns chuck, and big nog own herring, and tito owns shamrock…GSP owns Penn! Go back down to lw, redeem yourself with an exciting LOSS(cuz my boy kenflo’s the new champ) and retire dude!

    I can’t believe how succesfull BJ PENN and his camp have been with turning all the attention to “the greased up cheater”, instead of acknowledging that history was made by st pierre. WOW dude! This is just fu&*in retarted if you ask me.

  • Mikew says:

    One main difference that will be evident again for the third fight is the speed of GSP compared to BJ, I was impressed with the very fast punches and evrything in general was was done one step ahead. I still say the only way BJ will win is with his punches like seen in the first fight but historically GSP learns from his mistakes and this fight will be just like GSP/HUGHES 3. A complete domination. Definitely the easiest 400,000 GSP could hope for.

  • Eric says:

    I’m not sure why everyone is saying GSP issued the challenge. I think that the letter of complaint to the NSAC from Penn’s lawyer/camp ended saying that they were still wishing to meet GSP in a fair bout. To me, that implies a want for a rematch. I guess we don’t know if GSP read or heard about that letter, or if BJ had anything to do with saying that in the letter (but that would be pretty dumb on his part if he let a sentence like that stay in a formal letter if he didn’t really want a rematch), but regardless…that letter did come out before GSP was on the radio show, so in my mind BJ was at least thinking rematch. GSP saying it on the radio show basically forced BJ to say yes because it would look pretty bad if he said he wasn’t interested after the fact.

    • Justin says:

      Good point, I forgot about BJ’s lawyer saying in the letter that they were still interested in another fight.

      • Eric says:

        Thanks, justin. Btw, I wasn’t targeting your previous post on this article specifically. I was making a general statement in regards to a lot of posters I’ve seen on a bunch of forums. Just don’t want you to think that when I said ‘everyone,’ I really meant just you.

        Anyway, I share the view that I don’t really need to see this match happen…if it does, fine. But there are other matters to attend to in their respective divisions first. I’d also rather see Silva vs. GSP at this point anyway, so optimally I don’t need to see GSP/Penn 3 for a while.

      • Charlie says:

        I (a BJ Penn fan) would probably also rather see GSP v. Anderson Silva rather than BJ GSP III. It would be interesting to see if Georges would be interested in Anderson’s clinch. Not a place I would like to be for very long. But that is neither here nor there. But I agree, for me I would rather let BJ and GSP tend to their own respective divisions rather than clash again. For now at least. Kenny and Thiago have been very patient.

      • justin says:

        Eric,
        I knew you weren’t just saying me, because even the MMA Weekly article I pulled a lot of the quotes from, and several other website headlines positioned it as if BJ was accepting a challenge from GSP.

  • ufcmanz says:

    Mir Vs. Lesnar is no different then BJ Vs. GSP
    Why is BJ doing all this B itching it would be a great rematch if he’d get off his Lazy ass and train hard to shape up and get some cardio, but no BJ is in the same boat as Karo Parisyan, Frank Mir was in this boat not to long ago and thinking all his skill with No Cardio will keep you a contender or champ.

    If Frank Mir comes in bad shape verus a Bigger Wrestler {Lesnar} he’s toast {they’ll only have a grapplers chance submit them before you gas},same goes for BJ like what just happen with his last fight with GSP , If BJ trains it’ll be a good fight and he can win it.

    • Josh V says:

      You actually still believe Penn has ANY chance? Wow, that’s some pretty big faith right there. Not to mention Penn quit not because of cardio, but because GSP beat the living piss out of him. That Vaseline thing was pure BS because a lot of Vaseline got on GSP’s body simply by laying on top of BJ and absolutely crushing him. In my opinion, his Fitch fight was a bigger test. No, no, my friend….Penn quit because he didn’t have the mental fortitude to take another spanking for 5 more minutes. Cardio? That’s a pretty weak excuse.

      • Josh V says:

        I do think Mir will have an extremely hard time getting Lesnar down to the ground, though. Submissions are excellent, but how many do you know that you can execute while standing? I count 3….and I think Lesnar’s way too fast for Mir anyway. If it goes to the ground, I believe Lesnar will have learned at least enough to control Mir a little bit better. Personally I see Lesnar winning by 1st or 2nd Round TKO.

  • ufcmanz says:

    I didn’t say BJ lost because he didn’t have Cardio or that he would win if he did I’m just saying he has alot better chance if he was in shape, everyone knows BJ has good BJJ and Boxing and Takedown Defence. Cardio and coming in shape makes all those areas better, I think BJ owes the fans his best and the vaseline I really don’t think it made any difference but even if it did make any difference even once in the way of BJ keeping rubber guard or takedown defence thats unnessiary damage BJ took, I think GSP wants to clear his mind and Beat BJ again. I’m a fan of both guys, but a bigger GSP fan , I’m Canadian. I wouldn’t mind seeing this fight again if BJ comes in shape.

  • oh no! says:

    third time’s the charm penn..
    just accept your defeat..
    you will just be more embarassed if gsp will own you again..

  • MrEd says:

    Lol… What an egomaniac.

    He was owned twice, what’s a third time going to prove?

  • bob says:

    With all that grease on GSP, Penn should have hd no problem slipping out from underneath him as that is where he spent the majority of the fight.
    It wasn’t even close. A rematch would be humiliating for Penn as he would be 0-3 vs GSP.

  • 2live says:

    From now on I’ll refer to bj penn as ken shamrok

  • mikew says:

    If i was BJ i would stick to LW and not further damage my reputation and win loss record.
    Every fighter loses, for every lock there is a key, no one is unbeatable so he should accept that and move onwards and upwards instead of dwelling on GSP.
    I think his pride might get in the way a bit.

  • phil says:

    a good once over wiping down of vaseline with a towel gets it pretty much off, if not completely, i tried it not even 20 min. ago

  • Ash says:

    BJ Penn is still the man! Braddah took 20 minutes straight to the face and didn’t even bleed! He’s a tough Hawaiian and in Hawaii loyalty is everything! Loyal fans for life! GSP was bad ass though! Third times a charm so let’s see it! I’ll fly back to Vegas again!

  • Kaipo says:

    Gsp Penn 3 would be a finish to a well played out saga for the ufc fan. I know that everyone from Hawaii will agree, as many canadians. I was at the MGM and the crowd was showing much respect for both champions, which really was surprising. There is alot of speculations and half truths of what happened that night which really pissed me off. What I saw that night was that better fighter won, and the loser got his ass handle with a straight jabs and side guard elbows “end of story”!!!! No excuses… No if ands or buts…. Coming from a Hawaiian and big bj Penn fan, our brother lost that night and I think he has a hard time admitting defeat. I had the pleasure of meeting gsp the next night after the fight walking around the casinos in vegas, and found him to be a great down to earth person. He was very friendly and spoke highly of bj Penn and his appreciation for the support of all ufc fans, even if you were not his. In that meeting, I really found gsp to be a greater person as well as a great fighter and ufc champion…

  • John says:

    UFC 100

    PENN X FLORIAN

    ST PIERRE X ALVES

    ANDERSON SILVA X WANDERLEI SILVA AT 185

    MACHIDA X EVANS

    Don’t think heavy weight champ will fight because they are fight UFC 98 MAY 23

  • gunslinger says:

    wanderlai vs anderson???? honestly sorry to say it dude but wandy is down lets just accept it he will never string together enough wins at mdw to earn a title shot……i cant see him beating any of the top mdw in the ufc…….wandy would get beat by all of the following easily…marquardt,sonnen,maia,palarhares,hendo,quarry,cote,leites,bisping,leben and wouldnt last thirty seconds against anderson !!!

    also rampage wont lose to jardine therefore he will face rashad at 100……but it doesnt really matter because no matter who ends up winning the black on black crime battle at 100(which i believe will be sugar)….will get destroyed by the dragon….machida will get the title this year and hold it till he retires!…….then florian will upset bj because he will still be worried about gsp!……and gsp and alvez will have a war in which gsp will win by sub or decsion or that alvez will win by tko/ko

  • tiki says:

    Funny how you choose to use the rampage/wanderlei comparison instead of the rampage vs liddell. liddell got owned all three fights with pride rules then ufc. GSP vs bj 3 would be no different than rampage crushing the iceman, rampage owns chuck liddell doesn’t matter how many times they fight the out come will be the same. Doesn’t matter how many times GSP fights bj the outcome will be the same. I’m down for seeing bj eat his words again but let kenny and thiago get their shot in first they deserve it.

  • gunslinger says:

    dont get eliminated!

  • russiandoeboi says:

    too bad gsp spelled out his strategy as he’ll have to follow the same plan again now.

    but, while bj has a chance for a KO early on standing i think GSP will dominate again, maybe quicker as penn may come out swinging.

    GSP likely before the 3rd rnd

    more interested in alves gsp.

    or fitch/alves

    or fitch gsp 2

    or koscheck against fitch gsp

  • mma addict says:

    what is this f..k it will be gsp vs bj 10 before bj stops crying. he lost the first time and the second time end of discussion go back to lightweight and bj be happy you still have the belt. with a performance like that you should have lost it

  • some psycho says:

    who does spike tv think they are fooling? they make everyone think gsp and bj penn where having a rematch because of the supposed over greasing. but then i find out it’s a rebroadcast from january. we all are getting greased.

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