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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dbiz you are hilarious</description>
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		<title>By: dbiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stole my line?  I aspire to one minute of action.  I worship your stamina and prowess.</description>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9. Cyborg v. Carano could be a co-main.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9. Cyborg v. Carano could be a co-main.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;constructed/brought back to life&quot; While you may have intended the construction part to refer to the addition of the ProElite fighters, I interpreted it to mean the building of the name Strikeforce, which is already established, though it will grow.  Strikeforce will not be putting the ProElite brand to use, they they may use the ShowXC brand.  ProElite itself will continue to exist outside of Strikeforce and remain a separate promotion.

You did not say &quot;without a main event they would be hard pressed to sell out HP Pavilion.&quot; You said &quot;without a huge headlining fight for their “first” card it’ll be Kimbo vs. Petrezelli(sic) all over again.&quot;  Then in your next statment went on to say &quot;Also, the HP Pavillion setting your hopes a little high. Didn’t Affliction have a hard time filling it with the best fighter in the world headlining?&quot;  I viewed those as two separate thoughts, and I will respond to them separately here.

&quot;without a huge headlining fight for their “first” card it’ll be Kimbo vs. Petrezelli(sic) all over again.&quot;:
Coker knows what he&#039;s doing, and has built a successful promotion without the fighters of the ProElite stable.  They have already done shows on both showtime and HDNet that were successful, with the addition of the fighters from ProElite, one can only expect that trend to continue.

&quot;Also, the HP Pavillion setting your hopes a little high. Didn’t Affliction have a hard time filling it with the best fighter in the world headlining?&quot;:
San Jose is Shamrock&#039;s home town, and Strikeforce has always done well in this town.  They haven&#039;t yet released a rumored match-up for him, but the fact that he&#039;s on the card bodes well for them in San Jose.  Also, they&#039;ve already shown that they can produce a crowd at the venue (see wikipedia reference in previous comment, also follow the link and you will find that nine of the seventeen MMA events they&#039;ve already held were at the HP Pavilion), so what&#039;s the point in belittling the promotion by comparing them to Affliction.

Now, on to your second comment.
&quot;If you pay attention to my comments,&quot;:
Which you immediately followed up by misquoting yourself, maybe you should pay attention to your comments.

&quot;Not to mention the millions of viewers CBS needs to make a live show worthwhile.&quot;:
If EliteXC could bring in the millions of viewers, and now you&#039;ve added their stable of fighters to an already successful organization, that&#039;s been in the Martial Arts business since 1985, and MMA since 2006 I think they can get it done.

&quot;If you’re going to argue, at least give me a possible headline given Stikeforce’s assets and fighters.&quot;:
1. Shamrock v. Shamrock (both are interested...I&#039;m not, but could be a big draw)
2. Le v. Lawler belt unification
3. Thomson v. Noons (already rumored)
4. Thomson v. Diaz
5. Overeem v. Rogers
6. Overeem v. Buantello
7. Alvarez v. Diaz (which ProElite had scheduled before they closed up)
8. Southworth v. Petruzelli (this one is quite a stretch, but Petruzelli has name recognition as the Kimbo slayer, and both of them were on TUF)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;constructed/brought back to life&#8221; While you may have intended the construction part to refer to the addition of the ProElite fighters, I interpreted it to mean the building of the name Strikeforce, which is already established, though it will grow.  Strikeforce will not be putting the ProElite brand to use, they they may use the ShowXC brand.  ProElite itself will continue to exist outside of Strikeforce and remain a separate promotion.</p>
<p>You did not say &#8220;without a main event they would be hard pressed to sell out HP Pavilion.&#8221; You said &#8220;without a huge headlining fight for their “first” card it’ll be Kimbo vs. Petrezelli(sic) all over again.&#8221;  Then in your next statment went on to say &#8220;Also, the HP Pavillion setting your hopes a little high. Didn’t Affliction have a hard time filling it with the best fighter in the world headlining?&#8221;  I viewed those as two separate thoughts, and I will respond to them separately here.</p>
<p>&#8220;without a huge headlining fight for their “first” card it’ll be Kimbo vs. Petrezelli(sic) all over again.&#8221;:<br />
Coker knows what he&#8217;s doing, and has built a successful promotion without the fighters of the ProElite stable.  They have already done shows on both showtime and HDNet that were successful, with the addition of the fighters from ProElite, one can only expect that trend to continue.</p>
<p>&#8220;Also, the HP Pavillion setting your hopes a little high. Didn’t Affliction have a hard time filling it with the best fighter in the world headlining?&#8221;:<br />
San Jose is Shamrock&#8217;s home town, and Strikeforce has always done well in this town.  They haven&#8217;t yet released a rumored match-up for him, but the fact that he&#8217;s on the card bodes well for them in San Jose.  Also, they&#8217;ve already shown that they can produce a crowd at the venue (see wikipedia reference in previous comment, also follow the link and you will find that nine of the seventeen MMA events they&#8217;ve already held were at the HP Pavilion), so what&#8217;s the point in belittling the promotion by comparing them to Affliction.</p>
<p>Now, on to your second comment.<br />
&#8220;If you pay attention to my comments,&#8221;:<br />
Which you immediately followed up by misquoting yourself, maybe you should pay attention to your comments.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not to mention the millions of viewers CBS needs to make a live show worthwhile.&#8221;:<br />
If EliteXC could bring in the millions of viewers, and now you&#8217;ve added their stable of fighters to an already successful organization, that&#8217;s been in the Martial Arts business since 1985, and MMA since 2006 I think they can get it done.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you’re going to argue, at least give me a possible headline given Stikeforce’s assets and fighters.&#8221;:<br />
1. Shamrock v. Shamrock (both are interested&#8230;I&#8217;m not, but could be a big draw)<br />
2. Le v. Lawler belt unification<br />
3. Thomson v. Noons (already rumored)<br />
4. Thomson v. Diaz<br />
5. Overeem v. Rogers<br />
6. Overeem v. Buantello<br />
7. Alvarez v. Diaz (which ProElite had scheduled before they closed up)<br />
8. Southworth v. Petruzelli (this one is quite a stretch, but Petruzelli has name recognition as the Kimbo slayer, and both of them were on TUF)</p>
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		<title>By: eldiablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>eldiablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Shamrock vs. Gracie is a huge fight, one that would sell out anywhere, regardless of who puts it on.  It&#039;s nice you can quote Wikipedia though.  If you pay attention to my comments, I said without a big main event they would be hard pressed to sell out the HP Pavillion.  You won&#039;t get 18,000 there to watch Josh Thompson fight some jabroni.  Pay attention to what I write.  It says &quot;construction/brought back to life&quot;.  The construction refers to adding on to Strikeforce, and the brought back to life part refers to the ProElite name coming back into MMA (though they weren&#039;t technically out of it, it seemed as though they would fold).   I&#039;m sure I read that EliteXC or ProElite name will still be used.  
My argument is that Strikeforce will not sell out big venues without a big headline.  Not to mention the millions of viewers CBS needs to make a live show worthwhile.  If you&#039;re going to argue, at least give me a possible headline given Stikeforce&#039;s assets and fighters.  Don&#039;t just say &quot;Well they did it before with a huge fight, so they&#039;ll do it again regardless.&quot;  

And you write &quot;To sum things up&quot;....What is that?  A high school essay conclusion?  You only had one argument with one proof/quote.  There&#039;s nothing to &quot;sum&quot;.  I give it a C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Shamrock vs. Gracie is a huge fight, one that would sell out anywhere, regardless of who puts it on.  It&#8217;s nice you can quote Wikipedia though.  If you pay attention to my comments, I said without a big main event they would be hard pressed to sell out the HP Pavillion.  You won&#8217;t get 18,000 there to watch Josh Thompson fight some jabroni.  Pay attention to what I write.  It says &#8220;construction/brought back to life&#8221;.  The construction refers to adding on to Strikeforce, and the brought back to life part refers to the ProElite name coming back into MMA (though they weren&#8217;t technically out of it, it seemed as though they would fold).   I&#8217;m sure I read that EliteXC or ProElite name will still be used.<br />
My argument is that Strikeforce will not sell out big venues without a big headline.  Not to mention the millions of viewers CBS needs to make a live show worthwhile.  If you&#8217;re going to argue, at least give me a possible headline given Stikeforce&#8217;s assets and fighters.  Don&#8217;t just say &#8220;Well they did it before with a huge fight, so they&#8217;ll do it again regardless.&#8221;  </p>
<p>And you write &#8220;To sum things up&#8221;&#8230;.What is that?  A high school essay conclusion?  You only had one argument with one proof/quote.  There&#8217;s nothing to &#8220;sum&#8221;.  I give it a C.</p>
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		<title>By: bsbiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Strikeforce has the dream of being the biggest MMA organization in the world like UFC and (to a lesser extent) Affliction do.  I think they are setting themselves up as the premier organization a half step below the UFC.  I think they realize that if they were to try to make that step to supplant the UFC, that Dana and the full force of Zuffa would basically drive them out of business and nobody really wants that.  I like Strikeforce.  I think they put on a hell of a show, I think they have a solid stable of fighters, and I will support them to the best of my abilities.  I think Dana respects the hell out of them which is why he works with them as well as he does.

Kimbo vs. Sapp would be like two Houston Alexanders fighting or like my last date:  one minute of action followed by fourteen minutes of boredom.  Sorry I stole your line, dbiz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Strikeforce has the dream of being the biggest MMA organization in the world like UFC and (to a lesser extent) Affliction do.  I think they are setting themselves up as the premier organization a half step below the UFC.  I think they realize that if they were to try to make that step to supplant the UFC, that Dana and the full force of Zuffa would basically drive them out of business and nobody really wants that.  I like Strikeforce.  I think they put on a hell of a show, I think they have a solid stable of fighters, and I will support them to the best of my abilities.  I think Dana respects the hell out of them which is why he works with them as well as he does.</p>
<p>Kimbo vs. Sapp would be like two Houston Alexanders fighting or like my last date:  one minute of action followed by fourteen minutes of boredom.  Sorry I stole your line, dbiz.</p>
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		<title>By: DR.DOOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DR.DOOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know ... lets put Kimbo in the womens division ... haaha gets bitch slapped in 24 seconds flat .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know &#8230; lets put Kimbo in the womens division &#8230; haaha gets **** slapped in 24 seconds flat .</p>
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		<title>By: DR.DOOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DR.DOOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah . thats always been my view of Strikeforce , they got the stuff to be big like the UFC . And being on the good side of Zuffa already helps .TV deals , better womens division , and the fact they hae some stars to match up . Kimbo vs Sapp would be a two minute throw down followed by both colapsing to the canvas in exhaustion . LOVE IT !! hehehe but regardless . a win - win for Strikeforce and us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah . thats always been my view of Strikeforce , they got the stuff to be big like the UFC . And being on the good side of Zuffa already helps .TV deals , better womens division , and the fact they hae some stars to match up . Kimbo vs Sapp would be a two minute throw down followed by both colapsing to the canvas in exhaustion . LOVE IT !! hehehe but regardless . a win &#8211; win for Strikeforce and us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lmao</description>
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		<title>By: GarRule</title>
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		<dc:creator>GarRule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WEC starting a woman&#039;s division would be brilliant!  Make it happen!</description>
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