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		<title>By: dbiz</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/9297/bj-penn-requests-nsac-investigation-into-gsp-greasing-allegations/#comment-93752</link>
		<dc:creator>dbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 06:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing like a timely reply.</description>
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		<title>By: MilkandCookies</title>
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		<dc:creator>MilkandCookies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 06:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further More......BJ PENN does get Tooo DAMN TIRED and that is the main reason he has lost fights.  He needs to get  B-HOPS nutritionist...get that energy back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further More&#8230;&#8230;BJ PENN does get Tooo DAMN TIRED and that is the main reason he has lost fights.  He needs to get  B-HOPS nutritionist&#8230;get that energy back.</p>
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		<title>By: MilkandCookies</title>
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		<dc:creator>MilkandCookies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 06:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay..didnt watch the ppv match...but if its true dana frank mir..etc all saw it and say they were putting on his body...thats crazy.  And for all the GSP fans that say...IT DOES NOTHING to win th Fight...Then WHY the HELL else Would he RuB Vaseline on his shoulders  chest and back????  THEIR is absolutely positively no reason for it.  The ONLY motive for that is to get a tactical advantage on someone he is fighting who is a great grappler...eh...hmm...ahh??   That and the fact he admits to paying a guy to kiss him......someone who does that, i would not put past them greasing.  In Boxing, if they put to much vaseline on the face, the REF makes them take it off because it causes the punch not to be as powerful and slip more.  Announcers talk about how a corner will try to get away with it sometimes.  And they have the excuse that they are trying to stop a cut on the face....Yet  Their is NO REason AT ALL to Be Applying vaseline on his shoulders back chest area... other than cheating.  I use to like GSP..but now he strikes me as the kind of person that would wall hack in BF2.  That WANKER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay..didnt watch the ppv match&#8230;but if its true dana frank mir..etc all saw it and say they were putting on his body&#8230;thats crazy.  And for all the GSP fans that say&#8230;IT DOES NOTHING to win th Fight&#8230;Then WHY the HELL else Would he RuB Vaseline on his shoulders  chest and back????  THEIR is absolutely positively no reason for it.  The ONLY motive for that is to get a tactical advantage on someone he is fighting who is a great grappler&#8230;eh&#8230;hmm&#8230;ahh??   That and the fact he admits to paying a guy to kiss him&#8230;&#8230;someone who does that, i would not put past them greasing.  In Boxing, if they put to much vaseline on the face, the REF makes them take it off because it causes the punch not to be as powerful and slip more.  Announcers talk about how a corner will try to get away with it sometimes.  And they have the excuse that they are trying to stop a cut on the face&#8230;.Yet  Their is NO REason AT ALL to Be Applying vaseline on his shoulders back chest area&#8230; other than cheating.  I use to like GSP..but now he strikes me as the kind of person that would wall hack in BF2.  That WANKER.</p>
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		<title>By: dbiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing like being a week late, eh Captain?</description>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg, BJ penn needs to get overhimself i watched the fight and the anouncers were like, hes just &quot;resting&quot; what ever it was obvious that GSP kicked his ass! it wouldnt matter anyway, vasoline or nawt Bj penn didnt get a shot in he was on his back the whole time! sore loser!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg, BJ penn needs to get overhimself i watched the fight and the anouncers were like, hes just &#8220;resting&#8221; what ever it was obvious that GSP kicked his ass! it wouldnt matter anyway, vasoline or nawt Bj penn didnt get a shot in he was on his back the whole time! sore loser!</p>
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		<title>By: Paka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how can you envy a cheating fighter.  It wasn&#039;t truly a fair fight,you know that... so then I ask you again, how can you envy a cheater????????????????? hahahahahahahahahahaha yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how can you envy a cheating fighter.  It wasn&#8217;t truly a fair fight,you know that&#8230; so then I ask you again, how can you envy a cheater????????????????? hahahahahahahahahahaha yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Stéphane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stéphane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job BJ, you talk too much and then you quit and find excuse to explain, why you lost! I agree that there was vaseline where it should not be, but for those who have seen the first and second fight, BJ was never close to set up a submission on Georges, no never, and I like the point mentioned earlier, what ever amount of vaseline was aslo spread on BJ&#039;s body, that was not cleaned up, so it did also affect Georges&#039;s performance! Ok let&#039;s call this one a NC and let see how Baby Jay will find something else to complain about next time! Everyone notice the shape is was in! Not very impressive! He is talking too much, he is not what a black belt should represente, and give bad reputation to the sport. Since his begining on that TV reality he has been a very bad, cocky and name it, I just can&#039;t understand how his fans find anythings good about him! 

Good thing, is that it is over for him, there is no more confidence, he has sloppy training and a big mouth, what else did I forgot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job BJ, you talk too much and then you quit and find excuse to explain, why you lost! I agree that there was vaseline where it should not be, but for those who have seen the first and second fight, BJ was never close to set up a submission on Georges, no never, and I like the point mentioned earlier, what ever amount of vaseline was aslo spread on BJ&#8217;s body, that was not cleaned up, so it did also affect Georges&#8217;s performance! Ok let&#8217;s call this one a NC and let see how Baby Jay will find something else to complain about next time! Everyone notice the shape is was in! Not very impressive! He is talking too much, he is not what a black belt should represente, and give bad reputation to the sport. Since his begining on that TV reality he has been a very bad, cocky and name it, I just can&#8217;t understand how his fans find anythings good about him! </p>
<p>Good thing, is that it is over for him, there is no more confidence, he has sloppy training and a big mouth, what else did I forgot!</p>
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		<title>By: Kuma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see GSP as a cheater.

Bj would have lost either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see GSP as a cheater.</p>
<p>Bj would have lost either way.</p>
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		<title>By: gibor</title>
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		<dc:creator>gibor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO BE FAIR, u dont need big gobs of vaseline to make a difference.
last week someone smeared vaseline on my car (i blocked a driveway)

it was hell getting it all off.

so, even a tiny bit makes a difference.

and several guys had mentioned it too after fighting gsp, so, there&#039;s a PATTERN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO BE FAIR, u dont need big gobs of vaseline to make a difference.<br />
last week someone smeared vaseline on my car (i blocked a driveway)</p>
<p>it was hell getting it all off.</p>
<p>so, even a tiny bit makes a difference.</p>
<p>and several guys had mentioned it too after fighting gsp, so, there&#8217;s a PATTERN.</p>
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		<title>By: gibor</title>
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		<dc:creator>gibor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FROM WWW.BJPENN.COM:

While locked in my tight guard, I noticed that for some
reason I was have trouble keeping my opponent&#039;s head down. I practiced
shirtless with my great training partners, and never had this much
trouble keeping a guy from punching me. Was this guy uber strong or
something? Not exactly. After a couple more stiff elbows to my
grillpiece, I felt the familiar slick that I would get every day at
kickboxing practice on my nose and eyes, only it was on my opponents
neck, now up 2 rounds, Vaseline!

Greasy bastard, I thought. Of course I yelled to the ref, &quot;Hey! He is
greased up!&quot; but much like anyone else watching me get pounded, he
didn&#039;t give a damn, and replied with &quot;He&#039;s ok!&quot; Followed by another smash to the face. Yeah, ok for HIM, but
I&#039;m taking a beating over here and can&#039;t hold onto the bastard.
Jason &quot;Mayhem&quot; Miller Vaguely discussing his fight with GSP in 2005. Courtesy Fight Magazine

It should also be noted that &quot;Mayhem&quot; was questioned once again in light of the new scandal and was quoted in saying this.

&quot;I probably would&#039;ve had my ass beat anyways, but its true, unless he sweats Crisco&quot;

---

Today Matt Hughes also released this statement:

&quot;Now, on to what everybody is talking about, the greasing. I’m not the only one who has said that GSP felt greasy during a fight. I know Matt Serra has mentioned it and, even in their first fight, I think BJ said something. I’m not saying GSP did something wrong and I’m not saying that it would have changed any outcomes of any fights; but what I am saying is, for my last two fights against Georges, he felt greasy.&quot;
From Matt-Hughes.com Blog

---

&quot;Too many fighters have complained already.. The outcome of BJ and GSP does not matter anymore.. Just as long as GSP is not allowed to do it again for future fights. &quot;
Dan Cammarillo discussing the BJ vs Vaselined GSP issue.

Note: While it is purely speculative on my part. Dan Cammarillo is the brother of Dave Cammarillo. Dave Cammarillo is Jon Fitch&#039;s trainer, 2 fighters from AKA have recently fought GSP, both Fitch and Kos. Ill let you draw your own conclusions as to whether or not his statement, &quot; Too Many Fighters have complained already&quot;, holds any additional evidence to this matter. It is the only insight from an AKA insider available right now.

---

Sean Sherk, while I admit is not a good witness in a case where cheating is involved, said in UFC 56 Extras that GSP felt &quot;Slippery&quot; and according to Matt Hughes ( see above statement )Matt Serra Made Similar claims about GSP.

Contrary to popular belief, BJ Penn himself has not publicly commented on the &quot;greasing&quot; issue. I know that recent reports have claimed to be quoting BJ stating via his facebook account that &quot;GSP felt a little greasy&quot; but I confirmed this afternoon that was not BJ chatting.

However, if we are to believe the NSAC&#039;s Keith Kizer, Penn did make a complaint to the commission during the GSP fight making him the 4th UFC Champion to claim GSP felt overly greasy while competing with him.

&quot;I talked with another inspector of mine -- he said that apparently B.J. Penn had complained to the inspector in his corner after either the first or second round that he though maybe Georges was a little slippery. I found that out this morning. At the same time he was complaining we were actually handling the situation in Georges&#039; corner. It&#039;s just unfortunate.&quot;said Kizer.

In addition to the above testimony, The quality of credible eye witnesses to the vaseline application at UFC 94 cannot be overlooked. Witnesses such as, Chuck Liddell, Frank Mir, Dana White and NSAC Executive Director Keith Kizer have all publicly displayed in one way or another that they acknowledged seeing Vaseline applied to George St. Pierre in an improper way.

At this point in time it is safe to say there might be a pattern of abuse here. Based upon the testimony above I think we can all connect the dots on this one. Are all of these highly regarded professionals making a big deal out of nothing? Im not trying to answer that question, Im just sharing what I know on this subject.

Im going to end this write up with a statement Eddie Bravo gave me to share with the BJPENN.COM readers. As the innovator of the rubber guard and a well regarded expert, I thought I would reach out to Eddie and get his opinion on what kind of impact these accusations, if true, would have had on BJ&#039;s guard.

&quot;Slipperiness is the enemy of any guard, including the rubber guard. It&#039;s tough enough trying to submit someone no gi mma style without vaseline&quot;

He went on to say.

&quot;That&#039;s why I am all for the NSAC allowing pants in mma like Japan. It will increase submissions which means more excitement, which means more fans which means everyone in the mma industry will benefit. Friction/pants should be encouraged not banned. That&#039;s like banning gloves for NFL wide receivers for rainy games&quot;

note: The opinions expressed here are my own and not necessarily that of the Penn&#039;s.. If your going to hate, send it my way, not theirs.. thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FROM <a href="http://WWW.BJPENN.COM" rel="nofollow">http://WWW.BJPENN.COM</a>:</p>
<p>While locked in my tight guard, I noticed that for some<br />
reason I was have trouble keeping my opponent&#8217;s head down. I practiced<br />
shirtless with my great training partners, and never had this much<br />
trouble keeping a guy from punching me. Was this guy uber strong or<br />
something? Not exactly. After a couple more stiff elbows to my<br />
grillpiece, I felt the familiar slick that I would get every day at<br />
kickboxing practice on my nose and eyes, only it was on my opponents<br />
neck, now up 2 rounds, Vaseline!</p>
<p>Greasy bastard, I thought. Of course I yelled to the ref, &#8220;Hey! He is<br />
greased up!&#8221; but much like anyone else watching me get pounded, he<br />
didn&#8217;t give a damn, and replied with &#8220;He&#8217;s ok!&#8221; Followed by another smash to the face. Yeah, ok for HIM, but<br />
I&#8217;m taking a beating over here and can&#8217;t hold onto the bastard.<br />
Jason &#8220;Mayhem&#8221; Miller Vaguely discussing his fight with GSP in 2005. Courtesy Fight Magazine</p>
<p>It should also be noted that &#8220;Mayhem&#8221; was questioned once again in light of the new scandal and was quoted in saying this.</p>
<p>&#8220;I probably would&#8217;ve had my ass beat anyways, but its true, unless he sweats Crisco&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Today Matt Hughes also released this statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;Now, on to what everybody is talking about, the greasing. I’m not the only one who has said that GSP felt greasy during a fight. I know Matt Serra has mentioned it and, even in their first fight, I think BJ said something. I’m not saying GSP did something wrong and I’m not saying that it would have changed any outcomes of any fights; but what I am saying is, for my last two fights against Georges, he felt greasy.&#8221;<br />
From Matt-Hughes.com Blog</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>&#8220;Too many fighters have complained already.. The outcome of BJ and GSP does not matter anymore.. Just as long as GSP is not allowed to do it again for future fights. &#8221;<br />
Dan Cammarillo discussing the BJ vs Vaselined GSP issue.</p>
<p>Note: While it is purely speculative on my part. Dan Cammarillo is the brother of Dave Cammarillo. Dave Cammarillo is Jon Fitch&#8217;s trainer, 2 fighters from AKA have recently fought GSP, both Fitch and Kos. Ill let you draw your own conclusions as to whether or not his statement, &#8221; Too Many Fighters have complained already&#8221;, holds any additional evidence to this matter. It is the only insight from an AKA insider available right now.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Sean Sherk, while I admit is not a good witness in a case where cheating is involved, said in UFC 56 Extras that GSP felt &#8220;Slippery&#8221; and according to Matt Hughes ( see above statement )Matt Serra Made Similar claims about GSP.</p>
<p>Contrary to popular belief, BJ Penn himself has not publicly commented on the &#8220;greasing&#8221; issue. I know that recent reports have claimed to be quoting BJ stating via his facebook account that &#8220;GSP felt a little greasy&#8221; but I confirmed this afternoon that was not BJ chatting.</p>
<p>However, if we are to believe the NSAC&#8217;s Keith Kizer, Penn did make a complaint to the commission during the GSP fight making him the 4th UFC Champion to claim GSP felt overly greasy while competing with him.</p>
<p>&#8220;I talked with another inspector of mine &#8212; he said that apparently B.J. Penn had complained to the inspector in his corner after either the first or second round that he though maybe Georges was a little slippery. I found that out this morning. At the same time he was complaining we were actually handling the situation in Georges&#8217; corner. It&#8217;s just unfortunate.&#8221;said Kizer.</p>
<p>In addition to the above testimony, The quality of credible eye witnesses to the vaseline application at UFC 94 cannot be overlooked. Witnesses such as, Chuck Liddell, Frank Mir, Dana White and NSAC Executive Director Keith Kizer have all publicly displayed in one way or another that they acknowledged seeing Vaseline applied to George St. Pierre in an improper way.</p>
<p>At this point in time it is safe to say there might be a pattern of abuse here. Based upon the testimony above I think we can all connect the dots on this one. Are all of these highly regarded professionals making a big deal out of nothing? Im not trying to answer that question, Im just sharing what I know on this subject.</p>
<p>Im going to end this write up with a statement Eddie Bravo gave me to share with the BJPENN.COM readers. As the innovator of the rubber guard and a well regarded expert, I thought I would reach out to Eddie and get his opinion on what kind of impact these accusations, if true, would have had on BJ&#8217;s guard.</p>
<p>&#8220;Slipperiness is the enemy of any guard, including the rubber guard. It&#8217;s tough enough trying to submit someone no gi mma style without vaseline&#8221;</p>
<p>He went on to say.</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s why I am all for the NSAC allowing pants in mma like Japan. It will increase submissions which means more excitement, which means more fans which means everyone in the mma industry will benefit. Friction/pants should be encouraged not banned. That&#8217;s like banning gloves for NFL wide receivers for rainy games&#8221;</p>
<p>note: The opinions expressed here are my own and not necessarily that of the Penn&#8217;s.. If your going to hate, send it my way, not theirs.. thanks</p>
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