Comments on: UFC Announces UFC Fight Night 17 Main Card; Miller Replaces Sakara on Preliminary Card

By: James

James — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:43:09 +0000

Another card without a light-heavy match-up being televised? We constantly hear about the depth in the division, but they refuse to give us free fights showing 205. Anderson Silva for one fight doesn’t count. Come on Dana, show some depth at the 205 division. Afterall, you are hitting me up 3 times in 45 days for $45.00 a pop to watch the big boys go at it.

By: gunslinger

gunslinger — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:32:25 +0000

i wish i could see this whole card from top to bottom looks great!

By: Kris Karkoski (admin)

Kris Karkoski (admin) — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:26:08 +0000

I suppose you’re right, though I wasn’t involved in the initial fight but the aftermath/breakup. Good times (and no, it wasn’t w/ family haha)…

By: justin

justin — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:16:19 +0000

Kris,
Sounds like you didn’t “witness” the brawl, but instead were involved. I hope this wasn’t at a family get together

By: bsbiz

bsbiz — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:10:05 +0000

You are a beast, Kris.

By: Kris Karkoski (admin)

Kris Karkoski (admin) — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:01:24 +0000

Maybe I can put together some $15 fight cards once I’m in NC!

Also, I wish we had fights here in PA no matter the cost, though I did get to witness a hell of a brawl on new year’s eve and nearly choked a guy out (RNC fully applied but he gave up before going out), but that’s for another time .

By: Kris Karkoski (admin)

Kris Karkoski (admin) — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:58:09 +0000

Yeah, Houston signed a long-term deal (like 5-6 fights as mentioned). Not that the length really matters since the UFC can cut you whenever they want but still.

By: Jazzkok

Jazzkok — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:32:58 +0000

dude EMERSON VS PELEGRINO should be in the main card that’s going to be a great fight. So should clementi vs tibau

By: justin

justin — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:27:05 +0000

Yeah, that sucks.

By: fr702

fr702 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:17:58 +0000

Ya but they won’t say who else is fighting nor who Coco is fighting either..

By: justin

justin — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:10:12 +0000

15 bucks, eh? I wish we had fights here for $15.

By: fr702

fr702 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:48:25 +0000

Houston i do believe is actually training so he doesnt get cut and i would assume that he would take a “small show” fight to get rid of the ring rust… He is exciting imo, and as a person from what I know of him, hell of a guy (no i dont know him personally), I really want him to go to a top name camp and get serious, I like him and hope he comes back strong

*side note*

Jesse “COCO the peeing MONKEY” Taylor is on the Indian Res. circut here in California, he has a fight @ Eagle Mountain Casino on the 15th, ” UFC star” Jesse Taylor mind you…. ya you know your pumped and tickets 15 bucks ya

By: fr702

fr702 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:42:35 +0000

I agree that AJ should be on the tv card, I would really like for this to a 3hr show too.

By: Cole Miller

Cole Miller — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:09:43 +0000

I don’t think the ufc would cut anybody who brings in viewers…example: wandi…hes an exciting fighter and even though hes losing fights, he still brings in a crowd of people…its all about the benjamins!!!

By: Cole Miller

Cole Miller — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:07:49 +0000

No he signed like a 5 or 6 fight deal right before his last loss I believe…

By: pete90

pete90 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:03:57 +0000

has houston alexander been cut?

By: canadamuayguy

canadamuayguy — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:53:43 +0000

WHAT THE &#%$ RUMBLE ON THE UNDERCARD!That better change! Good lookin card though.

By: justin

justin — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:29:25 +0000

“Of course, this is all really off topic…” – Captain Obvious

By: justin

justin — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:27:01 +0000

I would think that a loss in that situation shouldn’t count towards the three loss policy, and I think that it usually doesn’t. In terms of Kos’ loss to Alves hurting is climb on the title shot rankings: I think that it should affect the title shot climb in that maybe he needs to pick up an extra win somewhere, but I don’t think it puts him back at the bottom of the ladder, so to speak.

The 3 loss and gone “policy” is a bit fuzzy, like Ryan said. It depends on who it is. If its a relative newcomer, then yeah, they’re gone, if its a TUF winner or long time UFC fighter, or a big name fighter, they’re less likely to get booted. Case in point, Wandi is 1-4 in his last five fights, 1-2 in the UFC, but I highly doubt if he would get cut if he lost his next fight, unless that fight was against a can.

By: Ryan in NY

Ryan in NY — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:18:38 +0000

Yeah you seem to be right with the 3 Loss and Gone policy but I don’t think too many of those types of policies are set in stone. It seems to me that the UFC leaves the thought behind those decisions vague on purpose to protect fighters that might lose but still draw tickets (Chuck, Wanderei, Hughes).

My $.02

By: dbiz

dbiz — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:10:46 +0000

Here’s a question for those more observant than me….

It seems the UFC has a 3 loss and gone “policy” (for lack of a better word) in place for their non-star fighters. Should someone taking a fight on 2-3 weeks notice not have that fight count towards that policy?

The most recent loss I can think of that is somewhat along those lines was Kos-Alves where Kos stepped in on 2 weeks notice (I think) and lost. I know he isn’t liked in these parts, but stepping up and taking that fight and showing the way he did really shouldn’t have hurt his climb towards a possible title shot, should it?

By: justin

justin — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:03:10 +0000

This is a stacked card, and I personally would like to Rosholt vs. Miller and AJ vs. Fioravanti in addition to the four fights scheduled to air. They should make this a three hour show (on TV) instead of just two.