Koscheck, Cantwell, Miller, and Wiman Awarded UFC Fight Night 16 Bonuses
Steve Cantwell submits Razak Al-Hassan at UFC Fight Night 16
Josh Koscheck, Steve Cantwell, Jim Miller, and Matt Wiman each received a $30,000 “fight night” bonus for their efforts at UFC Fight Night 16 “UFC Fight For The Troops”, which took place last night at the Crown Coliseum in Fayetteville, North Carolina and aired live on Spike TV.
In the headline bout, welterweight contender Josh Koscheck scored a highlight reel knockout of Yoshiyuki Yoshida to capture “Knockout of the Night” honors, stunning his opponent with a straight right then sealing the deal with another right hand that put Yoshida out cold on the canvas. The third knockout of Koscheck’s 15-fight career and his most brutal to date capped the 10-bout event.
Steve Cantwell, the WEC’s final light heavyweight champion, looked impressive in his UFC debut, submitting previously unbeaten Razak Al-Hassan with a gruesome first-round armbar to earn “Submission of the Night”. With a tight armbar already secure, Cantwell looked to elicit the tap out by further extending the extremity to one of the most extreme angles ever seen in the octagon, but Al-Hassan refused to tap forcing the referee to intervene after Al-Hassan’s arm had been broken.
“Fight of the Night” went to lightweights Jim Miller and Matt Wiman, who kicked off the Spike TV broadcast with a standup brawl. Despite accepting the fight on short notice, Miller blasted Wiman with strikes for three-full rounds but was unable to finish him off while Wiman was able to survive Miller’s striking and submission attempts to make it to the final bell.
For a complete recap of UFC Fight Night 16 “UFC Fight For The Troops” click here.
Tags: jim miller, Josh Koscheck, Matt Wiman, steve cantwell
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Hi, Justin…
I hope Cantwell’s dog gets run over.
Hi Justin.
I can’t believe they gave Wiman anything but a beating with a sock full of quarters.
Hi Justin….
Not sure the Wiman fight deserved fight of the night, but I didn’t see another one that deserved it either, I think they just wanted to reward Jim Miller for that performance, and considering he didn’t finish the fight, the only bonus left was fight of the night. And besides that KO had to go to Kos, and like it or not, sub had to go to Cantwell.
BTW, I’m not a fan of celebrating the breakage, but again, the guy should have tapped, Cantwell is still young, and I guarantee he’s not the first fighter to at least feel that way. Maybe the first one to be so open about feeling that way, but probably not the first to feel that way.
What’s up
I was just saying “Hi Justin,” since that’s apparently the in thing to do.
I think they gave the bonus to Wiman b/c of effort and that one of his relatives is in the Armed Forces
Wiman held guard really well and avoided the mount. Miller rained down on him while standing, but wiman held his own while on his back. getting your butt kicked and getting a bonus, im sure he has a small smile on his face!
I hope Cory Hill will return soon…man that was an ugly way to break your leg!!!!!
I think a percentage of their bonuses should go to the charity aswell.
I suppose that’s a valid point ryan, but that would be up to the fighters. I assume that the UFC is giving some money on its own, not just lending its popularity. I also think that all of the celebrities in the video clips should be giving some money. It doesn’t do a lot of good to talk about people needing to give money if you don’t do so yourself.
Maybe more fighters will do what Saunders says he is going to do, put his fight gear up for auction and all the proceeds will go to the good cause.
Hi Grandma,
Great night of fights. I just wonder why the guy with the sore ribs quit, while a guy doesn’t tap, and breaks his arm? He didn’t want to tap because of the troops or is he just stupid? He probably figures if he taps he’s gone for good. Is it just me, or does hassan look like a guy from american history x? Put your mouth on the curb!
My boy Wiman sure took an ass whoopin from Miller, but it was still an entertaining fight, glad they both recieved bonuses for it.
It will be interesting to hear what bones Al-Hassan broke when the medical suspensions get posted. That definitely made everyone cringe and yell “Oh!” when they saw it snap, and then want to see again on replay. That was disgusting. The look on Al-Hassan’s face was pretty scary it was like his whole body went into shock, but he should of tapped. And dont be talking crap about Cantwell yelling “Broke it” after he won, its just the equilavent of chuck liddell and everyone in the UFC who knocks somebody out and starts screaming afterwards.
Glad Goulet got his glass jaw smashed again which is always awesome. Kos came back big from his loss against Alves, unfortunately i dont see him ever getting past any of the top three WW in the world, but still one of the sickest knockouts ive seen in a while. Overall great fights for the UFC
THE ROBOT! haha via broken arm
bfree, the part I objected to most was the “Oh look at it pop! I always wanted to do that!” with no attempt to even say “I’m sorry I broke his arm”. That makes him a Grade-A, first class douche.
In the atmosphere of lastnights fight, it was a little out of line, being a charity type event, a little more respect to him would of been nice, but being interviewed right after the fight, adreneline still pumping he was just still pumped up a bit. I dont know how many of you have ever been in dressing rooms or behind the scenes, most fighters I have encountered have a little more compassion when all has settled down. Whether he did or not I dont know, but I would think once he had time to reflect, he did care and wonder about the well being of Al-Hassan.
Dbiz
yeah i wouldn’t be surpised if Cantwell is a grade A douche like you say, but wanting to emit mass amounts of pain to your opponent, thats just part of the fight game. Some guys want to knock somebodies block off and some guys want to break somebodies arm. Did Mir apologize to Silvia after he broke his arm, i dont know for sure but i doubt it. Would you apologize after you broke somebodies arm in a mma bout? I know i would be pretty pumped too if i broke somebodies arm like that, but then again i might be a grade A, first class douche too haha
I dont think by no means when they got backstage he was running around looking to say, “Im sorry”. I just think it would of weighed on his mind a little more once the adreneline wore off a little. In a combat sport, there is a lot of hatred leading up to the fight, once it is said and done that does ware off a little bit. I would like to think he made sure it wasnt a career ending injury, but that might of been a UFC ending fight for Al-Hassan.
Contrast that with the rest of the fighters who KOed or injured their opponents. Even Kos went to check on Yoshida, and he’s regarded, at least around here, as one of the biggest as*holes on the planet.
Hartt? Stayed by Hill’s side on the way out of the ring. Saunders? Immediately went to check on Wolff. Same with Swick and Goulet. Credeur went to make sure Loughran was ok before the decision was announced, too. Of all the injuries/KOs shown last night, only one had a fighter not show any remorse (or at least respect) for his opponent.
Cantwell is no better than Babalu after the infamous held choke. Both show absolutely no respect for their opponents or their sport. I want Cantwell’s career to end via serious injury, and I want his opponent laughing in his face as his broken body is dragged from the ring.
And yes, if you gloated over a potentially UFC-career-ending injury while your opoonent was still in pain in the cage, you are a douche of the highest order. I salute you, Sir Bag of Massengill.
SERIOUSLY…. NO mention of the Ben Saunders KO??? That was one of the best clinches ive ever seen.
bo702
Yeah im sure he did settle down after the adrenaline wore off once Cantwell got in his lockerroom, but i dont know why Al-Hassan wouldn’t have tapped after hearing and feeling the popping, cracking and snapping sounds from his forearm and elbow weren’t enough to make him tap. I hope its not a career ender, but come on he should of tapped so i really don’t feel sorry for him.
Good point dbiz. Should of been a little more remorse shown in the eye of the camera then there was, or lack there of. I would like to think he thought a little more about what he should of done after seeing the replay, maybe not. Maybe he thinks because he made it to the “big stage” he can act like a douche and becaome the “bad boy” of the UFC. if thats the case he will have a long road ahead once he gets his head knocked in by a well-rounded, more experienced UFC vet.
BB,
The bonuses are for KO, Sub, and Fight of the Night. Fight of the night pretty much always goes to a decision. So that’s one down. Sub, always involves a submission attempt that results in the end of the fight. That leaves KO, and since Kos put Yoshida out with one punch, then finished him off with a second, I think that outweighs Saunders who pounded the guy for over a minute and the guy got up on his own pretty quickly afterwards, though he had taken a beating. If there was a bonus for “Muay Thai Clinch of the Night” I’m sure he would have gotten it, but there’s not so too bad for Ben Saunders, his bonus is he gets to fight for the UFC again.
I dont know about all of you, but if you had me as deep as he was in an arm bar, the best thing to do is tap, take the loss, and bounce back to fight another day. Maybe a pride thing, or the mind capacity of, “you have to break my arm before i tap”, what ever the case, the arm, nor his choice to not tap until it was too late, didnt look good!
I think its possible that Al-Hassan just got overwhelmed and froze, or maybe he just doesn’t train a lot of submissions, and isn’t used to tapping. Who knows why he didn’t tap, but I do know I would have, no question. I could see being willing to go to sleep from a choke, but to let your arm get broken is a bit silly.
Very good showing by saunders, but I agree with you Justin. From the looks of his last few fights, he is pretty well rounded, but I feel the bonuses went the right way. Good KO for Koz, I think he needed that to gain more confidence after the Alves bout.
Froze or not, everyone that knows MMA knows if you have an arm bar, especially how deep that one was, you tap. Plus 4 of his 7 wins were by submission, so not to tap leads me to believe he had it set in his mond, “IM NOT TAPPING”!!!!
Excuse me, i meant 5 of his 7!
Dbiz
You bring up a good point but im talking about apologizing not showing respect for your opponent. But if your talking about respect, maybe Al-Hassan didn’t respect Cantwell’s arm bar and thats why he didn’t tap in which proceeded in him getting his arm snapped like a twig. But we dont know if Cantwell wrote him a get well soon card or at least asked him if was alright back stage either. Least we know that Cantwell has some crazy killer instinct. sincerly the duke of douchieness, just kiddin
bo702
im sure Al-Hassan will tap really quick next time he is an armbar. its a good thing the UFC covers all injuries that happen in the octagon for Al-Hassan’s sake and for all the other guys who broke bones last night, that had to be some kind of record for most bones broke in a night unless that other guy who hurt his ribs weren’t actually broke
OH MY SWEET JESUS!!!!!!!!….i just saw the corey hill fight, the nastiest thing ive ever seen….you just knew those bird legs werent gonna last forever…i hope(somehow) he makes a full recovery…you know its bad when rogan stops commentating and is yelling to the ref to stop the fight
I dont know what kind of injury to the ribs Loughran had, but I know when or if you have a broken rib(s), it constrics breathing and is serious pain. He was asked if he could continue, and they waived it off, but he got off the stool like it wasnt hurting that bad. Sort of like he was saying to himself, “im just going to take this beatdown and quit”. I guess we will find out in the next day or so what the extent of the injury was, but it almost looked like he gave up.
good card, saunders is amazing, goulet use to be awesome in TKO but now he might be a little over classed.Cantwell’s an animal, a step up in opponent skIll might show how good he really
Dude, HIll’s leg looked NASTY!! Joe Rogan yelling was a little frightening too.
Anyways, i’ve been saying for the longest time that the AKA fighters,FITCH,KOS and SWICK, will INEVITABLY have to face eachother since they are all IMO top ten WW’s. After looking into the upcoming ww bouts, and after last night’s ko’s, doesn’t it make sense now more than ever to have KOS VS SWICK?? The UFC shouldn’t give a $hit if they’re training buds, this ww fight makes sense. I WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN!
WHO AGREES??
I’ve seen a break like Hill’s on youtube before, but Hills foot twisted, the other guys was slightly less gruesome, though clearly the same type of break, and basically the same reaction from the fighter…but in the youtube video the ref saw the break.
It sucks about Al-Hassan’s arm, but I’m more concerned about Hill, that was a lot less within his control, just a freak thing; Hassan could have tapped.
The ribs were probably pretty serious, even a bruised rib can put a guy down, I was at a concert and a guy got his ribs bruised in the pit and was seriously struggling to breath just sitting down once he got away from everything, I’d imagine that bruised/broken ribs would be next impossible to breath and fight with, especially when you’re already tired and taking a beating.
When Faber got beat by Mike Brown, he was practically carried out of the cage. It just looked as if Loughran walked around after the fight was stopped. Dont know if it is the same injury but the comparison is night and day!
jazzkok,
I think that match up makes sense, we’ll see what happens. I would still like to see Karo v. Yoshida, which was supposed to happen at UFC 87 I believe, before Karo got hurt. It’d be really nice to see the two Judoka go at it.
You guys are sure critical. I thought Cantwell was sweet as cotton candy. Wiman fought his ass off…GREAT MATCH!!! Corey will probably just have to wear a brace and he’ll be okay. Kos looks good with black hair.
lmao
OMG that has to be a career ending injury for Hill. I don’t see how he could ever kick again with that leg. Seriously made me sick to my stomach. Looked like gumby or something.
First off, whats up with a TKO victory getting Sub of the Night. How was it not officially ruled a submission victory. Even if he didn’t tap, the finishing move was an armbar submision. And what about Loughran “verbal submission”? How is that Technically Knocked Out.
I knew Miller wouldn’t be a chump, and Wiman was high off a great victory over Tavares, who is way too overated. Man, does Wiman have a chin. He was eating them left and right. Maybe his fight with Fisher was stopped a little too soon. He did seem to be ok right after Fisher was walking away as the ref stepped in. Anyway he has a great chin.
Credure was impressive.
I didn’t know what to expect with Al-Hassan. By looking at his head shot photo, i was guessing somewhat scrawny. The first time I saw him, it was like they belonged in seperate divisions. I thought I had really messed up my picks on that one. That dude is huge.
Brandon Wolff was way outclassed. His forehead was nasty.
Rogan’s comment about vintage Swick was great. good to see he’s adapted to the new weight class.
I was way wrong about Yoshida. nuff said
Couldn’t really get into the Bruno/Rees fight — maybe too many beers. Couldn’t help but notice that Bruno looks like mini-Mir.
Overall a great night of fights.
Wiman/Miller doesn’t deserve FON. That was a one-sided mostly boring beatdown. There was no real back and forth fight on the card, so it should come down to most entertaining. or if you had to choose one fight to show a friend. It wouldn’t have been Wiman/Miller.
I think this evening of fights was just alright, there were good KO’s and submissions but all very one sided. It seemed a good present for the troops to have their boys dominate, and i feel that through the matchups it was set up to be that way. I am positive that on Saturday there will be much more competitive fights. Sad to see a guy that wont tap in a horrible position and the Ref wasnt going to step in, that can end a guys career right quick, better to go on to fight another day when whipped.
I think from the refs vantage point he couldnt really see the snap. Once cantwell made that turn it should of been over, but apparently heart comes before hurting with Hassan!
Just watched the Hill,Hartt fight and that was disgusting. My prayers go out for Hill cause that might of been the most disturbing thing since two girls one cup. Uck!! You know its bad when Joe Rogan, who job is to help promote the UFC, and he’s frantically yelling “Stop, Stop, Stop!!!” Whoa that was gross and definitely going to take a long time to recover from that.
Speaking of Joe Rogan last night, i thought his comments about giving money to the troops other than bailing out Ford and AIG was amazing. He really had a good point about that. Its a good thing we have a freedom of speech because he would have been out of a job and jailed someplace else for saying that. Thoughts?
It was good. The automakers got themselves into the position of no money. The economy has something to do with it, but so does greed by the executives. as for the war, we were thrown into it. I 100% agree that the money donated should be to the fallen hereos fund, and not to the automakers. A double edged sword because either way, if you did decide to donate lastnight, we are still donating to the automakers through tax dollars anyway!
It was a nice sentiment, but hopelessly naive. All the care in the world for injured soldiers does no good if both the banks and the largest industry in the US fail. With no economy, we can’t build anything or care for anyone.
If we want to help the troops, we need to stop getting them killed by sending them to fight wars that can not, under any circumstances, be won.
Call me out of I am wrong here, but didnt they say lastnight they had 2/3 the money RAISED? wouldnt that mean no financing from a bank or any outside lender?
Do we really need to get into this kind of debate dbiz? Here? It’s your right of course. Protected by those troops fighting for you to say what you want. Your choice bud.
Lets move on. sorry to add fuel to the fire surfing!
My wheels are spinning right now trying to control unnecessary responses. No prob.
well it seems i missed alot …..on some issues i think cantwell is a douche i agree with dbiz….If i broke someones arm i would feel bad….whats with everyone thinking that all fighters want to do is make people feel the most pain they can…Ive never heard such a thoughtless statement from a fighter……cantwell can learn a thing or two from dale hartt he followed hill all the way to the hospital….its kinda funny though al hassan looked good till he got caught in that armbar…i thought it was a bad performance by cantwell he didnt look that good at all….i dont see cantwell winning his next fight unless its against a no name or houston alexander and even then he only beats hosuton if he takes it to the ground….I want to see irvin vs cantwell so i can see my boy make a high light reel out of cantwell………but anyways man that corey hill man i just think his legs are way to skinny and flimsy to be fighting at 155 he needs to put on some weight his legs look like big tims…that leg break was grosser and more disgusting than the youtube kickboxer leg break….good to see kos get a win back, yoshida really should have tried for the judo throw and the sub…..you just dont try to stand with kos you never know when he is gonna be a good striker or perform badly…..swick told the truth when he said we were gonna see the best swick ever…id like to see swick vs kos next?
It was surreal watching it on Spike knowing its an hour away and not being able to get in the building while the legitimate sports media ignored the show for the most part…NC Sports revolve completely around the question of Who is the better basketball player Curry or ” Psycho T”?
Who cares???
It started Tuesday and picked right back up this morning And that was because the ACC fanboys have to wait for Finals to be over before there team takes to the court again…
Cantwell let me down alittle with the after the fight stuff but he’s young and he might have had a belt promotion on it ala Mir…
Hill is at Cape Fear Valley….You might want to send him a card with a donation in it if the economy hasn’t taken everything yet…12-18 months he will probably need some Aid just to get by much less a comeback…
corey hill needs some milk to strengthen them bones……but seriously its kinda weird thinking the ufc has an arm broken and a leg broken in one night
also alot of people make fun of joe rogan but the real thing is without him the ref would have never stopped the fight before corey got hit with strikes….because no one saw it till rogan stood up and put his face against the fence and just kept saying stop the fight his leg is broken i give an applause to rogan he definilty earned my respect…
The leg was pure fluke, but the arm bar was totally preventable.
Where can you see the Hill fight?Watched spike and didn’t see it.It was pretty grusome from the sounds of the comments.
You can see it on UFC homepage.
Thanks Joe
Joe Rogan needs to stick to commentating mma. Sure, we’d all love to help the troops, but how is anyone going to help them by not bailing out the auto industry? There would be millions of people without jobs, and it would most likely cost us even more than it does now to bail them out. I don’t think Rogan has any idea of how bad a collapse in the industry could be.
No prob.
Jaymz,
The Hill fight is on UFC.com (usually a good place to start when looking for something UFC related)
The money raised last night for the troops does not go to the government or even to an entity that can be taxed. The Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund is a private charity, and therefore untaxed. In regards to the automakers, they are actually not where they are because of CEO greed (incompetence maybe), they are where they are because it costs $76/hr/person to build an American car, but only $43/hr/person to build a Japanese car…do the math, so the American car makers tried to make up the difference by selling overpriced, over sized SUVs, which worked until gas prices went up and no one wanted them anymore. In regards to whether we should or shouldn’t be in the war, we are now, we should do the best we can to clean up the mess we created, and things have made a drastic improvement from where they were 2 years ago. That’s the last I’m going to say about that stuff, back to MMA, which is what this place is supposed to be about.
Dietrich,
I share your sentiments about the fact that the event was so close, yet so far away. While I appreciate them opening it up to the troops for free, and all that, I find it hard to believe they’re going to find 10k real MMA fans at Ft Bragg. If they had it open to the public you wouldn’t have heard all the BS boos. Also, it sucks that NC sports media only covers basketball and such and don’t care about MMA, I guarantee they’ll make a lot more money covering that in NC, especially in the Triangle.
In regards to the ref stopping the arm snap, its the fighters responsibility to tap what does the ref say before every fight “Obey my commands at all times. Protect yourself at all times.” I think the second part of that covers “Tap when you’re about to get your arm bent backwards.” The ref stopped it as soon as it bent back, BTW.
JustJoe,
Though I disagree about the auto industry, I agree with you that Rogan should probably stay out of politics, in fact I think pretty much everyone in Hollywood should stay out of politics, most of them throw their star power behind stuff yet are totally clueless as to what’s really going on.
Wow-that is sick.
and yeah justin-good point-my bad
Jaymz,
It’s cool… and I had started typing that before JustJoe posted, so you know.
so am i the only one who noticed rogans quick mention of the rubber guard in the wiman and miller fight….he really loves talking about the rubber guard ever since training with eddie
@Justin,
I agree he probably should have tapped. My guess… he thought his reach advantage gave him the room to leverage out of the arm bar…Bad mistake…he’s lucky it is only dislocated…The ref did everything he could do…I like Cantwell and I think he has a future I just wish he was a little more humble after the win…You know what its like to talk MMA around here…I was in CVS Tuesday and the manager and a male clerk work discussing Smackdown like it was Face the Nation and looking forward to the event at the RBC…I asked them if they were looking forward to the UFN and you would have thought I told them there “Sport” was “Sports Entertainment”….SAD
BTW
Borders Central Raleigh just got Nogueira’s book if you want to check it out…
Gun,
Yeah, I noticed that too, Rogan always mentions the rubber guard and Eddie Bravo, its like that’s his idol or something…but we know he’s a lot more
Dietrich
Its really sad (to me at least) when guys would rather watch and talk about something that’s scripted fake fighting versus the real thing. For those of you on here that watch both, at least you watch the real stuff.
Thanks for the heads up on the book, I still haven’t looked for the other one yet, but I will check them out soon.
Oops got distracted mid sentence, He’s a lot more interested in his drugs and hallucinations than even Eddie Bravo, is what I was trying to say.
You all crack me up.
The rubber guard thing had me rolling, mainly because I thought the same thing. Personally I love it when Rogan blows a gasket because of poor judgment from a ref. Not that i don’t agree with him, but it’s probably not worth losing another inch of hair line over.
Yeah Eddie Bravo got Joe Rogan to start smoking weed. You can read about in a high times magazine. It also talks about how Eddie Bravo thinks every jiu jitsu fighter should smoke weed too haha
ill admit it i watch both…ive liked wrestling since a kid and i train for mma and love watching it to….its ok to like both IMO…i mean alot of fighters are wrestling fans and alot of wrestlers are mma fans…the undertaker is a huge mma fan and is really good friends with matt hughes and then you know spencer fisher is a huge wrestling and ric flair fan he always does the ric flair dance and woooo! after he wins
Man this night was full of injurys.Corey hill’s injury was horrible i saw the video. Give Joe rogan his props for seeing hill break his leg and yelling for the ref to stop it.
bfree,
I find it hard to believe that Rogan didn’t already smoke weed, but if he says so, whatever.
gun,
Like I said its fine if you watch both. I personally don’t, but if you do, that’s fine. Its also cool that a lot of MMA fighters like Wrestling and vice versa. Also, Rick Flair and Spencer Fisher are from the same area of NC, so that makes sense that Fisher would be such a big fan of Flair.
joshsmith,
I’m with you, I’m glad Rogan was yelling to stop the fight.
Just got in, and read all of the comments and I agree with a lot of what was said except for the stuff I disagreed with…
I have yet to see the Hill break, dbiz hates Cantwell and that’s understandable with the robot being a douche and all, Justin had the bailout covered good on ya, Joe Rogan trains with Eddie Bravo and smokes weed with as well, also the rubber guard is awesome if applied properly… Last night was a fun night of fights and I can’t wait for Saturday, 3 strikes Junie 3 strikes!!!
fr,
Good wrap up, certainly good for a laugh.
Update on UFC.com Hill had surgery today and is still in the hospital recovering from a “clean break”. Al-Hassan was treated and release for dislocated elbow. Goulet and Yoshida were treated and released for concussions, Goulet will be having his knee checked out in Canada.
Thx for the update justin, just a dislocated elbow huh? That still completly sucks for the FRO man
Yeah…hey look, Kris just posted that story, lets go there and talk about it…haha.
Thanks justin.
It would have been horrible if dale hart tryed for a heel hook after he got on corey :O.
joshsmith,
You’re right about that…but my stomach just did a bit of a backflip when I read that.
@Justin,
The “complete guide”is a great motivator for training I would read all the intro stuff and make my decision about training then…Minotauro’s book is worth checking out only if you were considering it anyway…The bookstore just gives you that try before you buy…Kind of like a test drive.
For everyone
Saulo’s Book Jiu-Jitsu University is probably the best laid out BJJ book I have seen… If you are buying 1 BJJ book that would be it but get it on sale
($39.95 is a little steep)
B.J. Penn still has the best MMA book if you are limited by space and cash…
As for Eddie Bravo…
He is one of those people that you define with their own name…”Dana is Dana…” I like the the guy and I think he’s made a fairly lucid arguement for all his positions…Do I agree with his stance on…Botany…No
Just my 2 cents
Have a great weekend every body
and remember if you want to save the auto industry
Tell someone with a broken tail light to fix their car…:)
Dietrich,
Thanks for that on the books. I looked over BJs book recently, and it looked very well laid out, though not exactly what I’m looking/needing at this point.
I own Penn’s book and can vouch that it’s really good. I haven’t been to the book store in a while to check out the new releases but I should soon, seems like there’s been some good books released this year.
soz its a bit late guys but hell yeah u gota give kos some credit now what a punch i knew all along he had power i will welcome all u haters on the bandwagon haha,
great card one of most exciteing ive seen in a while
lol yeah i would have freaked and never watched mma again if the heel hook happened
Sorry to bring up a dead post, but this is actually relevant. Found this quote from Steve Cantwell.
“You know that was a really weird outcome to the fight. I had the arm locked in tightly and expected Razak to tap right away – then we rolled twice and it got even tighter. I was thinking to myself ‘This guy is made of rubber – this is crazy’. The only thing I could to end the fight was force the arm until either it broke or he tapped, and that’s what I did. Fighting is always a series of calculated risks, and he had ample opportunity to tap. But none of us enter the ring trying to end each others career, and I do regret the comments I made and being so animated about it afterwards. It was the adrenalin taking over.”
Ya I saw that too, also I like how he stated when Hassan gets better he is more than welcome to come train with him in Vegas.. Which was hilarious when Penn said it to Sherk, but not too funny in this instance
Is that the “Come out to Vegas and train with me so I can teach you how not to get your arm broken,” invitation?
im kinda dont like cantwell for saying that either hassan was actually doing pretty good in that fight until it went to the ground….hassan trains in iowa so i think he is good though he doesnt need to go to vegas…but i really dont think cantwell is gonna last long in the ufc anyways