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		<title>By: Eye-Rhyme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eye-Rhyme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vinny by sub...
Nover by decision...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinny by sub&#8230;<br />
Nover by decision&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: B Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elliot had a sub par match, i&#039;ve seen him fight here in denver a couple of times and he is usually dynamite. I would love to see a match with Krysztof with elliot, but seeing elliot beating the crap out of Jules is good enough.  

I dont see any chance of Bader beating Vinnie at all other than a big hook or something, vinnie is just too good on the ground and i dont see vinnie getting knocked out like Bader did to the pink hair guy in his 2nd fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliot had a sub par match, i&#8217;ve seen him fight here in denver a couple of times and he is usually dynamite. I would love to see a match with Krysztof with elliot, but seeing elliot beating the crap out of Jules is good enough.  </p>
<p>I dont see any chance of Bader beating Vinnie at all other than a big hook or something, vinnie is just too good on the ground and i dont see vinnie getting knocked out like Bader did to the pink hair guy in his 2nd fight.</p>
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		<title>By: jparker</title>
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		<dc:creator>jparker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both Bader and Vinny have next to no stand up ability.  If the fight doesn&#039;t go to the ground it will be boring as hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Bader and Vinny have next to no stand up ability.  If the fight doesn&#8217;t go to the ground it will be boring as hell.</p>
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		<title>By: gunslinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>gunslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont count out bader guys im just telling you that....Krzysztof said on mma junkie the way to beat vinny is by tiring him out....of course krzysztof didnt get that chance but if bader can just school him on the feet which I think he can(He&#039;s been training with some good standup coaches I heard) and then maybe just tire vinny out on the ground....I say if this goes to the 2nd or third bader wins it by ko/tko or unanimous dec. but if it ends in the first its gonna be vinny by submission

As for the efrain/nover fight.....I dont know at this time who they are training with but I know nover is a beast...so im gonna say nover rocks efrain and then tko&#039;s or subs him on the ground in the first/second


If any of these guys are training with greg jackson though...then all they have to do is the jacksons submission fighting nipple tweak and they will be unstoppable....the nipple tweak has yet to lose...when jardine lost to wanderlai was before he ever did the nipple tweak...I love Greg jackson and his black magic(sorry got off topic)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont count out bader guys im just telling you that&#8230;.Krzysztof said on mma junkie the way to beat vinny is by tiring him out&#8230;.of course krzysztof didnt get that chance but if bader can just school him on the feet which I think he can(He&#8217;s been training with some good standup coaches I heard) and then maybe just tire vinny out on the ground&#8230;.I say if this goes to the 2nd or third bader wins it by ko/tko or unanimous dec. but if it ends in the first its gonna be vinny by submission</p>
<p>As for the efrain/nover fight&#8230;..I dont know at this time who they are training with but I know nover is a beast&#8230;so im gonna say nover rocks efrain and then tko&#8217;s or subs him on the ground in the first/second</p>
<p>If any of these guys are training with greg jackson though&#8230;then all they have to do is the jacksons submission fighting nipple tweak and they will be unstoppable&#8230;.the nipple tweak has yet to lose&#8230;when jardine lost to wanderlai was before he ever did the nipple tweak&#8230;I love Greg jackson and his black magic(sorry got off topic)</p>
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		<title>By: 2girls2cups</title>
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		<dc:creator>2girls2cups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unfortunately vinnie will destroy bader which sucks for everyone cuz the guys about as marketable as balls at a lesbian convention. saying he has no personality would be an insult to anyone without a personality. the guy acts like he&#039;s never heard of a joke before plus he talks shit and then acts like a bitch when someone calls him out on it. he&#039;s got some great ground skills but i have no desire to ever watch him fight in the ufc. krystoff was prolly the only hw i&#039;d like to see again, him vs jardine could win for most awkward mutant fight of the year. as for the lw&#039;s, nover looks good but i dunno why he&#039;s gettin hyped up so much. it seems like overall the talent has gone down so they&#039;re tryin to take average guys and make them out to be superstars. if he woulda been on the season with lauzon, i&#039;m not sure he&#039;d be makin the finals yet they&#039;re sayin he&#039;s the next gsp? and why are they callin efrain a wrestling phenom? to me he&#039;s got good subs but his takedowns are awful. i&#039;m amazed he&#039;s made it this far and really don&#039;t see him makin it out of the first round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunately vinnie will destroy bader which sucks for everyone cuz the guys about as marketable as balls at a lesbian convention. saying he has no personality would be an insult to anyone without a personality. the guy acts like he&#8217;s never heard of a joke before plus he talks **** and then acts like a **** when someone calls him out on it. he&#8217;s got some great ground skills but i have no desire to ever watch him fight in the ufc. krystoff was prolly the only hw i&#8217;d like to see again, him vs jardine could win for most awkward mutant fight of the year. as for the lw&#8217;s, nover looks good but i dunno why he&#8217;s gettin hyped up so much. it seems like overall the talent has gone down so they&#8217;re tryin to take average guys and make them out to be superstars. if he woulda been on the season with lauzon, i&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;d be makin the finals yet they&#8217;re sayin he&#8217;s the next gsp? and why are they callin efrain a wrestling phenom? to me he&#8217;s got good subs but his takedowns are awful. i&#8217;m amazed he&#8217;s made it this far and really don&#8217;t see him makin it out of the first round.</p>
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		<title>By: surfingk5</title>
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		<dc:creator>surfingk5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kelvin said: 
i’m just glad i don’t have to see bisping fight in the UFC for a long long time.
Huh?  Hit and run comments.  Elaborate, please.

Gun is back and salty as ever.  You know we could have used you a few times these past few days.  Bring some damn sense to some of these people.

I have to admit for this season I watched two episodes.  After I saw the &quot;pranks&quot;.  I was disapointed to say the least.  I don&#039;t like seeing people degrade themselves and I don&#039;t like seeing people being exploited because they are mentally handicaped (Duni).  So I look forward to next season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kelvin said:<br />
i’m just glad i don’t have to see bisping fight in the UFC for a long long time.<br />
Huh?  Hit and run comments.  Elaborate, please.</p>
<p>Gun is back and salty as ever.  You know we could have used you a few times these past few days.  Bring some damn sense to some of these people.</p>
<p>I have to admit for this season I watched two episodes.  After I saw the &#8220;pranks&#8221;.  I was disapointed to say the least.  I don&#8217;t like seeing people degrade themselves and I don&#8217;t like seeing people being exploited because they are mentally handicaped (Duni).  So I look forward to next season.</p>
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		<title>By: jparker</title>
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		<dc:creator>jparker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nover is definitely going to rock Escudero.  Phillipe is more aggressive and has more power and tools to easily TKO Efrain. I was not impressed at all with the Junie - Efrain fight, it was terrible.

I agree that the Bader fight was horrible.  I don&#039;t know what he is going to go against Vinny.  The only thing Bader can do is get the take down which is exactly where Vinny wants to be.  I cannot see the fight going past the first round due to Submission by Vinny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nover is definitely going to rock Escudero.  Phillipe is more aggressive and has more power and tools to easily TKO Efrain. I was not impressed at all with the Junie &#8211; Efrain fight, it was terrible.</p>
<p>I agree that the Bader fight was horrible.  I don&#8217;t know what he is going to go against Vinny.  The only thing Bader can do is get the take down which is exactly where Vinny wants to be.  I cannot see the fight going past the first round due to Submission by Vinny.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeSama Bin Rogan</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeSama Bin Rogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bsbiz,

Well done, I also had the fights ruined for me. Not by anyone on this site but by Bader and elliot making a porn with no girls. Nover for trying and expeimental sugery to turn Roop into mr. Fantastic. Junie for landing more punches on Primm than he did on Efrain. And David krasalhoff for tapping the mat faster than Mir could tap a keg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bsbiz,</p>
<p>Well done, I also had the fights ruined for me. Not by anyone on this site but by Bader and elliot making a porn with no girls. Nover for trying and expeimental sugery to turn Roop into mr. Fantastic. Junie for landing more punches on Primm than he did on Efrain. And David krasalhoff for tapping the mat faster than Mir could tap a keg.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Junie has been training at XC, we saw that in Dana&#039;s video blog a while back, and he mentioned it in his blog on UFC.com  I would like to see him grow up as well, I think he has done so.  Also, I think training a XC is a god way to grow up and get some heart.

Nice to see you back JoeSama, great stuff as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Junie has been training at XC, we saw that in Dana&#8217;s video blog a while back, and he mentioned it in his blog on UFC.com  I would like to see him grow up as well, I think he has done so.  Also, I think training a XC is a god way to grow up and get some heart.</p>
<p>Nice to see you back JoeSama, great stuff as always.</p>
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		<title>By: bsbiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I decided to watch the fights even though everyone ruined the results for me.  Jerks.
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Holy crap, the Bader/Eliot fight was fifteen minutes of my life I&#039;ll never back.  All I got from that was that Eliot has no idea how to fight a wrestler and Bader likes the missionary position.  Bader&#039;s prospects for winning:  Well, he&#039;s fighting the same kind of guy, so probably better than they should be, although Vinny is better and probably will, as Dana said, &quot;take more risks.&quot;
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It was an excellent reversal from Roop, but he needed to do something to make Phillipe think about something other than ripping Roop&#039;s arm out of socket.  It is hard to see how anyone will beat Phillipe except by a lucky shot.
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Insert joke about Khrystzoffstzoffstzoff&#039;s hand being his wife here.

Oh, look, Mazzagatti is the ref.  That means the fight will get stood up inappropriately at least once.  Khrystzoffstzoffstzoff needs to fill in his back tattoo before the finale.  The leg kicks were brutal, but very very nice arm bar.  Bader will not be able to hope for a lay and pray win.  Vinny will do something about that.  Unless Bader spends the however many months until the finale doing nothing but jiu jitsu, I see a submission victory for Vinny.  Definitely no threat of a knock out in this fight.
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Dear Dana:

Thank you calling Junie out, calling him a *bleep* trainwreck, a *bleep* quitter, and for always looking for the *bleep* easy way out when things get tough.  Thank you for seeing through him from pretty much the first time he acted out.  Thank you for telling him to his face that he wanted to get kicked out just so he could tell everyone that he could have won without putting in the effort.  Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

Sincerely,
The World.

ps:  Thank you for the funniest verbal faux pas I have seen in a while.

As nuts as Junie is, he&#039;s got a hell of a lot of talent.  To quote the movie Bull Durham, &quot;He&#039;s got a million dollar arm and a ten cent head.&quot;  Decent first round.  Probably score it for Ephraim.  He had better strikes, but it could have gone either way.  Nice choke by Efrain, even though Junie let him.  I think it is interesting that Junie is fighting with Xtreme Couture.  If they can&#039;t get his head out of his ass and into training and a little mental toughness, watch out.  He could really kick some asses.
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Oh, and if I have to watch that fat effer bench press that bloody motorcycle one more time, I&#039;m going to go all Junie on someone.

I think it&#039;s funny they&#039;re still hyping Call of Duty: World at War even though it&#039;s been out for about a month.  Amusing to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I decided to watch the fights even though everyone ruined the results for me.  Jerks.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Holy crap, the Bader/Eliot fight was fifteen minutes of my life I&#8217;ll never back.  All I got from that was that Eliot has no idea how to fight a wrestler and Bader likes the missionary position.  Bader&#8217;s prospects for winning:  Well, he&#8217;s fighting the same kind of guy, so probably better than they should be, although Vinny is better and probably will, as Dana said, &#8220;take more risks.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
It was an excellent reversal from Roop, but he needed to do something to make Phillipe think about something other than ripping Roop&#8217;s arm out of socket.  It is hard to see how anyone will beat Phillipe except by a lucky shot.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Insert joke about Khrystzoffstzoffstzoff&#8217;s hand being his wife here.</p>
<p>Oh, look, Mazzagatti is the ref.  That means the fight will get stood up inappropriately at least once.  Khrystzoffstzoffstzoff needs to fill in his back tattoo before the finale.  The leg kicks were brutal, but very very nice arm bar.  Bader will not be able to hope for a lay and pray win.  Vinny will do something about that.  Unless Bader spends the however many months until the finale doing nothing but jiu jitsu, I see a submission victory for Vinny.  Definitely no threat of a knock out in this fight.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Dear Dana:</p>
<p>Thank you calling Junie out, calling him a *bleep* trainwreck, a *bleep* quitter, and for always looking for the *bleep* easy way out when things get tough.  Thank you for seeing through him from pretty much the first time he acted out.  Thank you for telling him to his face that he wanted to get kicked out just so he could tell everyone that he could have won without putting in the effort.  Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
The World.</p>
<p>ps:  Thank you for the funniest verbal faux pas I have seen in a while.</p>
<p>As nuts as Junie is, he&#8217;s got a hell of a lot of talent.  To quote the movie Bull Durham, &#8220;He&#8217;s got a million dollar arm and a ten cent head.&#8221;  Decent first round.  Probably score it for Ephraim.  He had better strikes, but it could have gone either way.  Nice choke by Efrain, even though Junie let him.  I think it is interesting that Junie is fighting with Xtreme Couture.  If they can&#8217;t get his head out of his ass and into training and a little mental toughness, watch out.  He could really kick some asses.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Oh, and if I have to watch that fat effer bench press that bloody motorcycle one more time, I&#8217;m going to go all Junie on someone.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s funny they&#8217;re still hyping Call of Duty: World at War even though it&#8217;s been out for about a month.  Amusing to say the least.</p>
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