UFC 91 Fighters Pass Drug Tests
Posted by Kris Karkoski on Dec 1, 2008 at 6:58 pm ET58 Comments
UFC Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar
All ten UFC 91 competitors tested by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for steroids and drugs of abuse have passed their post-fight drug screenings.
The negative results were today confirmed to MMAFrenzy.com by NSAC Executive Director Keith Kizer via email.
Tested by the NSAC were Randy Couture, Brock Lesnar, Kenny Florian, Dustin Hazelett, Gabriel Gonzaga, Demian Maia, Jeremy Stephens, Aaron Riley, Mark Bocek, and Matt Brown.
UFC 91 took place on November 15th at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.
For a complete recap of the event click here.
Tags: Aaron Riley, Brock Lesnar, Demian Maia, Dustin Hazelett, Gabriel Gonzaga, Jeremy Stephens, Kenny Florian, Mark Bocek, matt brown, Randy Couture
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Well now hopefully people will stop saying Lesnar is juicing. He’s been a big boy since high school.
Well at least we know they are all on clean, pure drugs. Especially that roid raging Lesnar.
I met Lesnar in Heathrow Airport about 5 years ago. That guy was so freakishly big. He’s even bigger now!. If only I would have had those genes. I would rule the world… well the porn industry atleast!!
Is it time to start the small twig vs small berries debate again?
dbiz,
I’m thinking…no.
Justin, I’m thinking yes
enlighten me on this debate dbiz
Well…you guys can have it without me this time.
He can enlighten us because his first-hand experience.
Wait a second…I was just talking s**t about “gay talkers” on the other post. I’m sorry dbiz, I cannot participate in this debate. No matter my beliefs of , twigs and berries, giggle sticks and jingle bells or tube steak and peas…I must refrain.
Unless redirected by “the force”
There was a raging debate a while back. Lasted a couple days as I recall. It centered all on whether steroid use shrank the unit itself, or just the nuts. And the definition of a package. I can’t remember if it had a definitive answer.
You are dead to me, surfing.
Damn DBiz issues with SurfingK5 that’s unfortunate..
Yet is the fat man fat sweat hairy back guy that’s falling asleep is he sucking on his thumb or a turkey leg, and I hope u and Surfing can work this all out
Twig and berries debate I’m not getting to that shhhh again
But knowing me I mostlikely will at some point
O and yay everyone was responsible and do some dumb shhh and have a “false positive” ala Sherk
Ignore this, just testing a new feature.
^^^
I don’t want too what does it mean?
Just working on a late-night project
If I get it done tonight I’ll link it up tonight, otherwise it should be done by tomorrow at the latest.
Aww, come on dbiz and surfing… ::sings:: “why can’t we be friends? why can’t we be friends…”
Yeah…somehow I think typing that had a negative affect on my twig and berries :/ [/sarcasm]
Righton best of luck to u on that my friend cheers
Thanks. I didn’t get it done tonight, but it be ready by tomorrow.
ok. thats all i needed to know. i don’t want to partake in this because i am enjoying an A-1 Thick and Hearty at the moment.
Brock was on the juice when he was in professional wrestling, as most wrestling stars are at some point. But you can clearly see a difference in both his size and definition from then and now, which would lead you to believe regardless he is not on roids. He is down 25-30lbs from his WWE days and no where near as cut. Brock doesn’t cheat.
To settle the stupid small balls debate once and for all…
From http://www.anabolicsmall.com/roidb9a.htm :
“The testes of male athletes who have been stacking and cycling steroids
for years decrease in size.(3) If the adult male stops
taking anabolic steroids, testicular function will probably return
to normal.”
My five minutes of research also indicate that the berries will return to original size after some time without the steroids.
No mention is made to any adverse effects on the twig.
Thanks for thanks for that, bsbiz.
Anything I can do to ensure the conversations around here maintain some level of maturity. Yeah… Riiiiiiiiight.
when was brock’s last test other than this one?
how about barnett?
russiandoeboi,
Brock’s last test other than this one
yes,
i wonder not only about him but generally how long muscle mass stays on or off the juice.
like i wonder if a guy could say i’ll juice work out for a certain time, get of it and be ready to pass a test after a certain number of months
05 famly jewl pikt sideways as inline txt.
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Google that, I bet you’ll find it somewhere.
^^not the family jewl thing…the how long muscle stays thing.
The discussion was about roids and twigs and berries…yes.
The debate was about the terms “unit” and “package”.
I believe my stance was that the “unit” or “package” refered to the twig and berries in there entirety. Not as individual parts of said organ.
I’d also like to take the opportunity to continue to support my postion, that being the “twig and berries” are all included in the terms “unit” and “package”.
Now’s a good time to…AHEM!!!
I’d also like to say I’m sorry to dbiz. I’m sorry you can’t take a joke. You are my favorite biz here. Had I known you were that sensitive I wouldn’t have made the joke. Teach me to joke with a pissed off midget!…little person. Anyway, in an attempt to mend fences I’d like to offer a truce (with the exception of the twig and berries debate of course). I’d much rather gang up on people who make moronic comments than to battle with you. If I could send you tissues I would.
So, what is your choice d??? You who uses such strong language…Will you continue to antagonize the “force” or will you COME TO YOUR SENSES MAN!?!?!?!?
Bring me a shrubbery and we’ll talk.
but what did you guys think of my twig n berries drawing?
be brutally honest
Fine surfing. I see where your allegiances lie… Beware…
With respect to russiandoeboi’s question:
“i wonder not only about him but generally how long muscle mass stays on or off the juice.
like i wonder if a guy could say i’ll juice work out for a certain time, get of it and be ready to pass a test after a certain number of months”
Anabolic steroids do not, as is commonly thought, build muscle mass. You could inject as many steroids into your butt as you’d like, but if you sit on the couch, watch all your DVRed MMA highlights, eat bonbons, and the only thing that will grow will be your gut.
When exercising, the body creates another hormone called cortisol that in effect tears down the muscles, causing stress on them. The recovery period of the muscles varies person to person, and rest is needed to recover them. This is why even NFL players are given days off, not just to let bruises and other types of injuries heal, but to let stressed muscles recover. Sometimes injuries occurred in training are due not only to immediate over-work (pulled muscle, etc) but over stress.
The main mechanism for increasing strength and also muscle mass is the inhibition of this stress hormone, reducing the recovery time a muscle requires. Therefore, an athlete is able to work harder for longer, increasing strength and size more easily than someone who isn’t using them.
As far as how long the muscle mass stays on: muscle mass is for the most part, there to stay. What condition it is in is another question. Steroidally assisted muscles are still muscles and to maintain them, exercise is needed. I could be wrong about that, but I can’t find any references to muscle mass being lost.
In reference to russiandoeboi’s question:
“like i wonder if a guy could say i’ll juice work out for a certain time, get of it and be ready to pass a test after a certain number of months”
That depends on the steroid taken. Some steroids, such as nandrolone derivatives, can be detected 12-18 months after the last time they were administered. Other steroids, such as testosterone, have a life in the body of only a week or couple of weeks.
Hope that helps.
bsbiz/russiandoeboi,
When MTV did “TrueLife: I’m a roid head” (or whatever it was called.) The people on there mentioned that they would do cycles of steroids while working out. They also mentioned that even though they would keep working out, they would lose muscle if they came off the ‘roids. That could have been dependent on the type they were using, so I’m not sure about all that.
I do know, however, that people that use ‘roids are more inclined to tear their muscles, and have ligament and bone related injuries. Basically your bone and ligaments naturally take more time to strengthen than muscles do, then if you take steroids you shorten the muscle recovery time, but do nothing to decrease ligament and bone recovery time, therefore, your muscle development eventually outpaces bone/ligament development and you become too strong for your own bones/ligaments resulting in injury.
There are, however positive affects of steroids that do not necessarily relate to strength that will not be lost once you quit taking them. If you take steroids, and therefore shorten your recovery time, you can train longer, more often and learn/increase your skill faster without necessarily getting physically bigger/stronger. In the end you become a better fighter, though only in the technical aspect. Its still cheating, but not as bad (a relative term…cheating is cheating) as say cheating for strength and hitting a bunch of home runs.
twigs and berries? really this is how im gonna start my day to a debate about the effect of steroids on the family jewels and whether the phrases “unit” or “package” describe the frank and beans or just the frank or the beans. i award you all no points.
*note
To achieve results such as being able to train more w/o gaining muscle mass, versus training to achieve muscle mass may mean using different dosage and/or types of steroids.
Also recognize that HGH doesn’t have as many of the side effects that steroids have (including bone/ligament injuries, since it works on growth in general, not just muscle growth), and is as yet undetectable in drug screenings.
I think I’ve heard of that MTV thing. Isn’t that where they used to play music with the moving picture thingies?
They might lose mass. I couldn’t find any mention of it, but I wasn’t sure. I may ask around and see if I can find something out. It seems muscle mass should be muscle mass regardless of where it came from, but as I said, I could be wrong.
I don’t know that it is the presence of the steroid itself that causes the muscle tears or whether it is the increased work volume/intensity that increases the likelihood of a muscle injury. Once again, I don’t know for sure. I’ve seen that creatine dehydrates muscle tissue and can increase the chances for muscle injury, but I didn’t see anything on steroids doing the same thing.
The building of muscle mass is mostly dependent on the type of exercise. There are exercise regimens that are geared towards building strength but minimizing weight gain. I’m not going into the baseball analogy, but the principle there is the same: most of the gains from steroids are in the recovery time. You still have to be able to hit the ball for it to go anywhere.
HGH is detectable, but not reliably in a whizz-quiz. It is easily detected in a blood screen.
Steroids help make you *faster* and stronger. Faster helps you turn on the ball faster once you recognize the pitch…you still have to recognize the pitch and have hand/eye coordination, which all the big name baseball players that used/were accused of using steroids already showed they had.
My mistake about the detectability of HGH.
You could be right about tears being the result of increased volume/intensity… but people using steroids usually do so so that they can increase volume/intensity…so its not a direct correlation, but still strong enough to make a cause/effect argument.
Creatine is a chemical that actually resides in the muscles and draws more water into the muscles. A person using creatine will pretty much gain 5-6 lbs in water weight alone within the first 1-2 weeks of use, mostly stored in the muscles. Creatine can help with burst type energy, like weight lifters and football (American) players use, however would be detrimental to a fighters stamina. Also, when you stop taking creatine, you will, as a direct result, lose some strength, however you may see a greater net gain in strength versus working out without the creatine.
@ the bizs,s’s…whatever…boy you two are a couple of touchy biz*hes…get it???
huertarogerhuerta, the funny thing is we actually have news to talk about and I’ve found myself talking about anatomy, steroids, defending gay rights, try to maintain peace order between the force and the dark side and chastizing Al all day…wtf???
And, I do mean funny haha, not funny huh…
You were right about creatine. I thought I remembered it dehydrating the tissue, but it dehydrates the body by putting the water in the tissue. Sorry about that.
I don’t know if you can do cause/effect. Presumably the person would still be working hard and could still injure themselves. I’m not denying the possible link, I would say it’s more of a joint effect. Both contribute both individually and amplify the effect of the other.
russiandoeboi, short shrivled and hangs to the left.
Justin, you’re pretty smart guy. I hope you get the credit you deserve.
bsbiz,
Presumably they would still be working hard, that’s true. The muscle tear thing was something that happened to a guy on the MTV show. The ligament/bone thing I’ve heard of it more cases than just the MTV show.
surfing,
Thanks. Not sure what you mean about getting the credit I deserve… but I suppose that the people around me at least recognize that I’m pretty smart.
that’s what i mean
ok
surfing, I just can’t stay mad at you. Will you help me inject these steroids into my butt? I’ve gotten too big to do it myself…
d, you know you don’t have to ask…silly lil midget. Come here lil fella…hugs
i’m a little confused by surfings “defending the gay rights and steroids” matter. It might be from a old thread, but what exactly does the gay community have to do with steroids and twig N’ berries (other than the fact that that’s what they crave)?
T3,
He was referring to someone using “gay” as a random insult, which he was arguing against on another thread.
awww DBiz and SurfingK5 are pleasent with eachother again thats awesome…. congrats you two
Moderators…a lot has been happening in the MMA world over the past couple of days. This story on the UFC 91 fighters testing clean has been up since Monday. Ya’ll might want to try keeping up with other MMA news sites. Just a suggestion.
mburtoni,
There seem to be some people that are not getting the refreshed page, several stories have been posted since this one. Try clicking on “home” and see if you get the new stories. Someone has already mentioned this to the moderators, aka Kris, here.
It’s probably a browser cache issue. I’ve noticed that the latest Firefox tends to be a bit more aggressive about caching than I would like.
I’ve had that problem with this site and Firefox as well, though it seems to have improved recently.
I’m confused on the drug tests…. These tests that are performed on the fighters for steroid use, are they a normal work place drug screening test or are they a special, specific test.. Also, would these drugs be present on a normal workplace drug screening…
Not sure about that, fatjohn. Try Google for that one.
The drug tests that the state athletic commissions do are more complicated than home drug tests. They will test for steroids, cannabanoids, opiates, cocaine, diuretics, and other masking agents. They also test for stimulants and other banned substances. Exactly which ones, I don’t know. It might even depend state to state.
Home tests generally test for cannabanoids, opiates, cocaine, amphetamines, and maybe ecstasy. Probably other things as well. I’ve never looked inside one, so I don’t know what’s in a standard home drug test.