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		<title>By: russiandoeboi</title>
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		<dc:creator>russiandoeboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brock hasn&#039;t been  fully  tested but if a  45  yr  old  guy  can  have  him be huffing and  catching  his  breath  after  les than 1  rnd, and was  able to  reverse the  takedowns when  wrestling  is  his   forte i&#039;m  not  totally  impressed  with  brock  overall. nog  will   win against  mir  and  lesnar.

carwin  is  better/scarier.


surf:
you are   right  that  UFC  caters to  the masses, however
i  don&#039;t  agree that  they  &#039;have  to&#039;

1- danish and the partitas could  all  retire  now  if they   wanted.
2- it&#039;s morally   wrong  in the   context of MMA to have  refs  encourage  stand up for the  fans (which  they  do) - it&#039;s tossing a tourd towards   what the  gracies  showed the  world  and in  fact  what helped  out MMA  on the  map - the  rock vs paper vs  scissors of  MMA.

3- it&#039;s not  fair that say  ufc  championship of THE  WORLD  yet  they  favor  english   speakers.
many  examples  if  you  look  at the roster - but  for  instance  if  TUF  where  part of the  idea is to   foster  potential  talent they over-represent  people  from the  english  speaking   world.

could  you  imagine this in the   olympics .

if you  argue this is a  biz  not the  olympics  i&#039;d  say  well its  what  we make of it. and than they  should drop that CHAMPION OF THE WORLD! pretense</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brock hasn&#8217;t been  fully  tested but if a  45  yr  old  guy  can  have  him be huffing and  catching  his  breath  after  les than 1  rnd, and was  able to  reverse the  takedowns when  wrestling  is  his   forte i&#8217;m  not  totally  impressed  with  brock  overall. nog  will   win against  mir  and  lesnar.</p>
<p>carwin  is  better/scarier.</p>
<p>surf:<br />
you are   right  that  UFC  caters to  the masses, however<br />
i  don&#8217;t  agree that  they  &#8216;have  to&#8217;</p>
<p>1- danish and the partitas could  all  retire  now  if they   wanted.<br />
2- it&#8217;s morally   wrong  in the   context of MMA to have  refs  encourage  stand up for the  fans (which  they  do) &#8211; it&#8217;s tossing a tourd towards   what the  gracies  showed the  world  and in  fact  what helped  out MMA  on the  map &#8211; the  rock vs paper vs  scissors of  MMA.</p>
<p>3- it&#8217;s not  fair that say  ufc  championship of THE  WORLD  yet  they  favor  english   speakers.<br />
many  examples  if  you  look  at the roster &#8211; but  for  instance  if  TUF  where  part of the  idea is to   foster  potential  talent they over-represent  people  from the  english  speaking   world.</p>
<p>could  you  imagine this in the   olympics .</p>
<p>if you  argue this is a  biz  not the  olympics  i&#8217;d  say  well its  what  we make of it. and than they  should drop that CHAMPION OF THE WORLD! pretense</p>
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		<title>By: vet</title>
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		<dc:creator>vet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>muaythai4life said: 
I don’t think anyone will beat Brock.. I know this isn’t exactly a post about Brock but it’s kinda turned into one?

Brock is too big, strong, athletic for the HW division. Now I totally know he lost his first UFC fight to Mir, but Mir was awarded a golden chalice in the form of the ref stopping the fight for hits to the back of the head, giving Mir time to recover, putting the fight back on the feet so’s Brock was not in that dominant side control position and gave Mir more time to reset. In a rematch I think Mir gets crushed (BTW I think Mir is also a huge joke anymore, the man ADMITS to not training cardio. He admits it! he says something around the lines of “i don’t train cardio anymore so that I wont get burnt out on training for fights, I hate it.”)Nog is quite possibly the only guy in all of the UFC that can beat Lesnar because of his ground game, but he has to get lesnar in his guard, he’s not going to submit him from having lesnar in side control, and that is now lesnars favorite position since his Mir loss.
 muaythai4life said: 
Seriously though how can you say brock resorts to lay and pray tactics?? he did that in 1 fight?!

first fight TKO round 1
second fight loss by submission
third fight unanimous decision
fourth fight TKO round 2 - HW champion

Do I think he’s a perfect working model of a HW fighter? Not exactly yet. But he is the Matt Hughes of the HW’s. He is going to work on his submission game and striking while he wears and defends that gold belt against everyone else. The HW division is FULL of 1 trick poneys. Nearly every single HW is so 1 dimentional that it’s not too hard to try and



Brock is a joke, watch for Shane Carwin, same hight, same weight, wrestling background, difference is he has been training for MMA, he trains with Nate the Great. I doubt they will try to promote that fight because he wouldknock brock out, and they pay brock alot of money, so they are going to hand pick guys for brock to fight for a while... kinda like Kimbo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>muaythai4life said:<br />
I don’t think anyone will beat Brock.. I know this isn’t exactly a post about Brock but it’s kinda turned into one?</p>
<p>Brock is too big, strong, athletic for the HW division. Now I totally know he lost his first UFC fight to Mir, but Mir was awarded a golden chalice in the form of the ref stopping the fight for hits to the back of the head, giving Mir time to recover, putting the fight back on the feet so’s Brock was not in that dominant side control position and gave Mir more time to reset. In a rematch I think Mir gets crushed (BTW I think Mir is also a huge joke anymore, the man ADMITS to not training cardio. He admits it! he says something around the lines of “i don’t train cardio anymore so that I wont get burnt out on training for fights, I hate it.”)Nog is quite possibly the only guy in all of the UFC that can beat Lesnar because of his ground game, but he has to get lesnar in his guard, he’s not going to submit him from having lesnar in side control, and that is now lesnars favorite position since his Mir loss.<br />
 muaythai4life said:<br />
Seriously though how can you say brock resorts to lay and pray tactics?? he did that in 1 fight?!</p>
<p>first fight TKO round 1<br />
second fight loss by submission<br />
third fight unanimous decision<br />
fourth fight TKO round 2 &#8211; HW champion</p>
<p>Do I think he’s a perfect working model of a HW fighter? Not exactly yet. But he is the Matt Hughes of the HW’s. He is going to work on his submission game and striking while he wears and defends that gold belt against everyone else. The HW division is FULL of 1 trick poneys. Nearly every single HW is so 1 dimentional that it’s not too hard to try and</p>
<p>Brock is a joke, watch for Shane Carwin, same hight, same weight, wrestling background, difference is he has been training for MMA, he trains with Nate the Great. I doubt they will try to promote that fight because he wouldknock brock out, and they pay brock alot of money, so they are going to hand pick guys for brock to fight for a while&#8230; kinda like Kimbo</p>
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		<title>By: surfingk5</title>
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		<dc:creator>surfingk5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Willy D, you bring up an excellent point.  I was thinking about this yesterday.  Your absolutely right, that most mma fans really don&#039;t know any better.  Not to be rude but...they are mostly in it for who&#039;s hot right now.  Given the fact that they are the majority, the UFC and other organizations have to appeal, to that majority...fo the money.  Can&#039;t argue that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Willy D, you bring up an excellent point.  I was thinking about this yesterday.  Your absolutely right, that most mma fans really don&#8217;t know any better.  Not to be rude but&#8230;they are mostly in it for who&#8217;s hot right now.  Given the fact that they are the majority, the UFC and other organizations have to appeal, to that majority&#8230;fo the money.  Can&#8217;t argue that</p>
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		<title>By: Willy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a good portion of new UFC fans that really don&#039;t know these fighters being cut, except that they lose in the UFC. TUF fighters on the other hand, new UFC fans got/get to see them every week and can pick and chose which ones they like. We get to see Dollaway vs Massenzio instead of Okami vs Lister, why? Because a lot of new UFC fans that will be paying out the PPE fee, don&#039;t know who they are and don&#039;t care. Almost all of the people posting on here, are well rounded MMA fans and to a point, know what they are talking about. Dana knew a Leben vs Bisping could headline a UFC event, then a Soko going to HW and fighting Werdum ever would. TUF gives people the chance to talk around the watercooler and when their guy is on a PPV, money in Dana&#039;s pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a good portion of new UFC fans that really don&#8217;t know these fighters being cut, except that they lose in the UFC. TUF fighters on the other hand, new UFC fans got/get to see them every week and can pick and chose which ones they like. We get to see Dollaway vs Massenzio instead of Okami vs Lister, why? Because a lot of new UFC fans that will be paying out the PPE fee, don&#8217;t know who they are and don&#8217;t care. Almost all of the people posting on here, are well rounded MMA fans and to a point, know what they are talking about. Dana knew a Leben vs Bisping could headline a UFC event, then a Soko going to HW and fighting Werdum ever would. TUF gives people the chance to talk around the watercooler and when their guy is on a PPV, money in Dana&#8217;s pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: muaythai4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>muaythai4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously though how can you say brock resorts to lay and pray tactics?? he did that in 1 fight?!

first fight TKO round 1
second fight loss by submission
third fight unanimous decision
fourth fight TKO round 2 - HW champion

Do I think he&#039;s a perfect working model of a HW fighter? Not exactly yet. But he is the Matt Hughes of the HW&#039;s. He is going to work on his submission game and striking while he wears and defends that gold belt against everyone else. The HW division is FULL of 1 trick poneys. Nearly every single HW is so 1 dimentional that it&#039;s not too hard to try and</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously though how can you say brock resorts to lay and pray tactics?? he did that in 1 fight?!</p>
<p>first fight TKO round 1<br />
second fight loss by submission<br />
third fight unanimous decision<br />
fourth fight TKO round 2 &#8211; HW champion</p>
<p>Do I think he&#8217;s a perfect working model of a HW fighter? Not exactly yet. But he is the Matt Hughes of the HW&#8217;s. He is going to work on his submission game and striking while he wears and defends that gold belt against everyone else. The HW division is FULL of 1 trick poneys. Nearly every single HW is so 1 dimentional that it&#8217;s not too hard to try and</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that even Zuffa was pumped about the possibilities in fights after buying pride.  Dana has acted as though, at least that at first, they thought they would be able to buy the fighters contracts, and it wasn&#039;t until they were already in the process that they figured out that they had to still go out and work out individual contracts with the fighters.  I think that the Pride fighters have been a mixed bag in their transition to the UFC.  Some of them didn&#039;t bother to train in a cage before their first fights, and that affected them, others&#039; careers may be waning anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that even Zuffa was pumped about the possibilities in fights after buying pride.  Dana has acted as though, at least that at first, they thought they would be able to buy the fighters contracts, and it wasn&#8217;t until they were already in the process that they figured out that they had to still go out and work out individual contracts with the fighters.  I think that the Pride fighters have been a mixed bag in their transition to the UFC.  Some of them didn&#8217;t bother to train in a cage before their first fights, and that affected them, others&#8217; careers may be waning anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: fr702</title>
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		<dc:creator>fr702</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Confuctious this maybe too long for u so don&#039;t read it thanks.....*


@Jasonah, I&#039;m not going to debate Lesnar with you, I just don&#039;t feel like it.... Anderson Silva had 5 fights in PRIDE, technically he came to the UFC from Cage Rage kinda from Rumble On The Rock but not really

When ZUFFA bought PRIDE man I was pumped thinking that the likes of CC,Gomi, Fedor,Wanderlei, Arona, Saku,Shogun,Aleks, Yvel, Zuluzinho,   were all going to come over to the UFC and it was going to be a WAR, ehhh not so much because ZUFFA bought PRIDE and didn&#039;t exactly aquire the contracts of the fighters when the sale went threw ZUFFA owned everything PRIDE except the fighters and their contracts which were essentially void...
Dan Henderson has done well in UFC imo perhaps not a winning record but look who he has faced, Rampage is 3~1, Big Nog is undefeated, Gono well he is just up and down as usual.. U may not have gotten what we all wanted with the purchase of PRIDE but when it comes down to it, it was a business decision to eliminate THE competitor.... Affliction wishes they we&#039;re 5% of what PRIDE was, perhaps that&#039;s why Dana doesn&#039;t take them too seriously, and they put on a show every 6 months? Soo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Confuctious this maybe too long for u so don&#8217;t read it thanks&#8230;..*</p>
<p>@Jasonah, I&#8217;m not going to debate Lesnar with you, I just don&#8217;t feel like it&#8230;. Anderson Silva had 5 fights in PRIDE, technically he came to the UFC from Cage Rage kinda from Rumble On The Rock but not really</p>
<p>When ZUFFA bought PRIDE man I was pumped thinking that the likes of CC,Gomi, Fedor,Wanderlei, Arona, Saku,Shogun,Aleks, Yvel, Zuluzinho,   were all going to come over to the UFC and it was going to be a WAR, ehhh not so much because ZUFFA bought PRIDE and didn&#8217;t exactly aquire the contracts of the fighters when the sale went threw ZUFFA owned everything PRIDE except the fighters and their contracts which were essentially void&#8230;<br />
Dan Henderson has done well in UFC imo perhaps not a winning record but look who he has faced, Rampage is 3~1, Big Nog is undefeated, Gono well he is just up and down as usual.. U may not have gotten what we all wanted with the purchase of PRIDE but when it comes down to it, it was a business decision to eliminate THE competitor&#8230;. Affliction wishes they we&#8217;re 5% of what PRIDE was, perhaps that&#8217;s why Dana doesn&#8217;t take them too seriously, and they put on a show every 6 months? Soo</p>
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		<title>By: russiandoeboi</title>
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		<dc:creator>russiandoeboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ufc, pride,now affliction,
or as dana  thinks of it  infection....


i think that there are  great  fighters  and  different  nites give  different  outcomes

also rampage doesnt count then ?
, or big nog, then ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ufc, pride,now affliction,<br />
or as dana  thinks of it  infection&#8230;.</p>
<p>i think that there are  great  fighters  and  different  nites give  different  outcomes</p>
<p>also rampage doesnt count then ?<br />
, or big nog, then ?</p>
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		<title>By: jasonah</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brock&#039;s a big hype machine. Me and a buddy of mine where kickn it before the fight .And I seen something on another M.M.A site.Welooked at the pictures of the way ins,When brock fought Mir and when brock fought Randy  There&#039;s a big differnce in Brock.And then my Friend found a picture of Brock in the W.W.E Can some one Honestly say he was not on Steroids.He&#039;s a White version of Kimbo.That alway&#039;s use his Lnp to win fight&#039;s.As far them letting Soko go big deal,He&#039;s B level fighter in a A level orginization.When the U.F.C bought pride and took who they wanted from there roster.Have we seen any Pride veteran Do anything that&#039;s really impressive at this point.Wandy demolished Jardine,Anderson does not count because he only had 2-3 fight&#039;s in Pride.Ihonestly got all fired up for the Merger but,Really disappointed With the Results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brock&#8217;s a big hype machine. Me and a buddy of mine where kickn it before the fight .And I seen something on another M.M.A site.Welooked at the pictures of the way ins,When brock fought Mir and when brock fought Randy  There&#8217;s a big differnce in Brock.And then my Friend found a picture of Brock in the W.W.E Can some one Honestly say he was not on Steroids.He&#8217;s a White version of Kimbo.That alway&#8217;s use his Lnp to win fight&#8217;s.As far them letting Soko go big deal,He&#8217;s B level fighter in a A level orginization.When the U.F.C bought pride and took who they wanted from there roster.Have we seen any Pride veteran Do anything that&#8217;s really impressive at this point.Wandy demolished Jardine,Anderson does not count because he only had 2-3 fight&#8217;s in Pride.Ihonestly got all fired up for the Merger but,Really disappointed With the Results.</p>
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		<title>By: russiandoeboi</title>
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		<dc:creator>russiandoeboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even  though nog willl eventually  get  old  and  wear  down he will  beat brock.
and  brock  will  lose  everytime  he  faces  gonzaga, werdum, fedor, tim  sylvia, arlovski.

i&#039;d  like to  watch  him  and  carwin  though.  i&#039;d  go  with   carwin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even  though nog willl eventually  get  old  and  wear  down he will  beat brock.<br />
and  brock  will  lose  everytime  he  faces  gonzaga, werdum, fedor, tim  sylvia, arlovski.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d  like to  watch  him  and  carwin  though.  i&#8217;d  go  with   carwin</p>
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