M-1 Ready To Pit Fedor Against Lesnar
You just knew it would take half a second for people to start talking about Fedor Emelianenko vs. Brock Lesnar. Wasting little time, M-1 Vice President Jerry Millen has already issued a formal statement, which challenges the UFC yet again to co-promote a meeting between their boy Fedor and the newly crowned UFC heavyweight champion.
“While M-1 and Fedor remain interested in a match against Couture, we would also like to publicly state for the record that we would welcome a superfight between Fedor and Lesnar that would be held as a co-promoted event between the UFC, M-1, and Affliction Entertainment…
It is the position of M-1 that the UFC has adopted an anti-Fedor policy because multiple attempts to sign him have not been fruitful. For a company that has tried to market itself as the number one promotion in the world, they are unable to accept the fact that the number one fighter in the world does not reside on its roster of contracted fighters…
While Brock Lesnar is an accomplished athlete and a talented fighter, we do not consider him to be the number one heavyweight in the world. Until someone beats him, we strongly believe that Fedor should continue to be recognized as the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. In a match between Fedor and Lesnar, we do not feel that at this stage Lesnar would be able to make it out of the first round.”
Gee M-1, thems fightin’ words. Seriously though, Jerry Millen’s statement is a lovely little read and all, but its nothing new if you’ve been following MMA since PRIDE collapsed and left Fedor up to the highest bidder. Of course M-1 would let Fedor fight Lesnar, it’s no big secret that Fedor would probably mop the floor with Lesnar at this stage in the game. Even if that weren’t the case, I can’t believe that other organizations haven’t learned by now that Dana White doesn’t do co-promotions . Ever. Call it pigheaded, call it a lousy business decision, but the man won’t budge. So issue all of the blood boilin’ statements you like M-1, but the only way any UFC fighter will ever fight Fedor is if they leave the UFC, and lord knows that’s not bloody likely to happen to any of the relevant heavyweights under contract.
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I didn’t realize Fedor was the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world…
He is recognized by WAMMA as the top fighter.World Assocition of Mixed Martial Arts.
All the potential hype that Fedor Vs. Couture has dwindled.Now that Couture lost & Fedor lost in Sambo.It can still happen BUT won’t have the HYPE or bulid up like it had before they BOTH lost this past weekend.In my opinion it’s still a dream fight.Both fighters are freakin awesome.It’s something that needs to happen sooner than freakin later!!
P.S. Fedor would make Lesnar his B!TX(H!!!
Anything to see Lesnar get his undeserving ****in ass whooped.
I don’t think its necessarily a bad business decision to not co-promote. Especially since the last time Dana did anything resembling that, his golden boy (at that time) got beat by Rampage in the semi-finals of the Pride GP.
Dana White has invested too much in Brock Lesnar. He cant afford Brock getting his ass whooped.
Yeah, he beat his meat for the title last year.
And broke his hand doing it.
man…brock would have his hands full!
i would hope brock would destroy fedor…just because i am a huge ufc fan and im going to back their product!
this fight would rake in some mean feria!
would they be able to arrange this fight in the ufc???
or would it have to be elsewhere???
Actually Eric…..The UFC indeed does have the number one fighter in the world.
I would still rather see Coture vs Fedor. Fedor would man handle Lesnar.
Ya, his name is Anderson Silva. Affliction has by far the best heavyweight.
Eye:
would they be able to arrange this fight in the ufc???
or would it have to be elsewhere???
It wouldn’t happen in the UFC. Due to Dana’s stubbornness or unwillingness to co-promote (as Shapiro pointed out), it would probably only happen over his cold, dead body as long as Lesnar is under contract to the UFC.
bsbiz…
thanks man!
so basically this all hype?
man fedor needs to come over…i do not see why they are not able to negotiate a deal? can anyone speak on that??
Fedor does not want to be owned by Dana White. His current agrement with Affliction still allows him to fight sambo in Russia. UFC would not allow that. UFC could not come to an agreement with Fedor , so they are promoting the hell out of Brock Lesnar.Lets all hope they can co-promote a fight or hope that Affliction becomes as big and popular as UFC
STFU noob
FixXeR- I never said they didn’t.
Seems kind of cute that Fedor and M-1 call out two UFC fighters in one announcement. I personally see this as an admission that they realize Fedor’s legacy is tainted because he’s not fighting in the UFC (or high quality fighters… you can debate amongst yourself if high quality fighters = UFC). Lesnar’s been king for … 3 days before they’re humping his leg???
I see Dana responding with “If you want this fight to happen… sign a UFC contract or suck it.”. It’s not like the UFC loses anything if this fight doesn’t happen.
Personally I’m tired of Fedor. He’s the fat kid on the sideline bragging about how he can beat everyone in the game. Get in there and prove it or shut up and stop sending out these lame announcements.
talks cheap..
ryan!
i agree man…that kid on the sideline comment hit it on the spot!
I don’t think it has anything to do with Dana White being stubborn either (not saying he isn’t). I just think it’s a good business decision. He has some serious negotiating leverage now that Pride is dead and he’s not going to drop his pants just cuz Fedor’s camp sends out this letter.
Fedor won’t come over because he wants a million a fight plus the right to fight anywhere else he wants. At least that was the last sticking point I heard. He hates exclusive contracts.
This sounds like M-1 trying to needle Dana and the UFC. M-1 exists for the sole purpose of promoting Fedor and Affliction is paying him more money than anyone else. He knows he can make more by fighting with Affliction than Dana is offering, plus he can keep fighting sambo. Dana wouldn’t let him do that either. It’s a lot of hot air until 1) Fedor signs with the UFC or 2) Lesnar is no longer under contract. Your guess is as good as mine which one will happen first.
A lot of Dana White nuthuggers I see. Fedor not going to the UFC does not “taint” his legace. UFC’s current heavyweight champion is Noguiera, who Fedor beat TWICE. Noguiera will also go on to beat Mir and Lesnar. Also, Fedor didn’t want a million per fight, he simply wants to compete in Sambo competitions which are a matter of national pride for him. If anything, Fedor was not willing to sell out to the UFC. When the UFC is willing to have the #1 fighter in the world, then maybe they’ll need to offer him a contract that doesn’t treat Fedor with the respect he deserves and grant him some flexibility.
fixxer,
who are you implying is number one?
contract negotiations with dana/UFC is crap. he makes alot more money than what he pays the fighters. if i was fedor i wouldn’t sign with the UFC. that would be stupid on his part. he wouldn’t get a fourth of what he is getting now.
Ya know, I have always loved to watch Fedor and always believed he was the best HW in the world. But I am starting to get sick of this ****. If you want to fight UFC fighters and know the only way it will happen, is in the octagon. Then stop issuing challenges that will never happen, just to make yourself feel better, and get in the cage. I hope more than ever that AA knocks fedor out in the 1st round, just so he and Monty can get over themselves, and I don’t have to read about this useless crap anymore
“T3chn3tnium said:
contract negotiations with dana/UFC is crap. he makes alot more money than what he pays the fighters. if i was fedor i wouldn’t sign with the UFC. that would be stupid on his part. he wouldn’t get a fourth of what he is getting now.”
Yeah. Fighting once a year makes you an undisputed champion. He’s getting so much more from his one Affliction fight per year.
I’m gonna say this to really kick off the flame war. If he keeps running from the UFC it just shows that he’s pussing out. Yeah, I said it. He is scared to fight the best in the world so he won’t sign unless it’s a co-promotion and likely under M-1’s rules. Preferably in Russia.
Man up, Fedor. Put up or shut the hell up.
DBiz,
I’m going to venture to say that you would say that to his face…
Fedor would destory Lesnar pretty easily. Lesnar is just MMA noob and couldn’t even finish Herring and won via Lay n Pray. Fedor is so much better in every aspect of MMA except pure wrestling that it’s laughable. Nogueira will sub Lesnar pretty easily too, so it’s not like Lesnar will be champ for long time. After that Lesnar can keep fighting other B-level UFC HW’s or maybe rematch against the most overrated MA fighter ever in Randy Couture. Fedor is the undefeated, undisputed greatest MMA fighter ever and there’s no need to waste his time with noobs like Lesnar. He’s fighting Arlovski next, then Barnett most likely and after that, there’s plenty of great top10 HW’s from Fedor outside the UFC.
As much of a lesnar mark as I am, fedors only competition
Is Josh Barnett
Lets not count out Arvloski.
Lets not comment four times on dead posts that already had nearly 100 comments before we got here.
ose, his record is 29-1-1 (with the no contest on HIS HEADBUTT OF NOGUEIRA). That doesn’t look undefeated. And since he won’t fight in the UFC, he’s not the undisputed anything.
Has anyone stopped to think about why M1 has jumped at the chance to put this fight together right away, yet ithas taken years to MAYBE have the couture vs fedor fight? That’s cuz they KNOW that fedor would DESTROY lesnar. Fedor would have killed randy but they are SO SURE he would kill lesnar that they have made an official offer.
If Dana’s smart, he’ll make up an excuse, and not have his newly crowned HW champ fight fedor. Like him or not, BROCK brings marketable and brings a lot of attention to the HW division. He’s made it more excting than it’s been in a long time. If he we’re to lose to another organzations hw, then the UFC’s hw division would once again seem like a joke. Brock can make more interesting fights and as the champ brings more “prestige” to the belt so it’s better that he doesn’t get his ass handed to him by fedor.
*brock is marketable
Im not sure why? but ya you are right.
Jazzkok,
Read the article, you will see that Dana doesn’t have to make up an excuse, he just has to stay consistent on the precedent he’s already set regarding cross promotion.
fedor is a ****, he’s not the best fighter im the world and the reason being, he’s not fighting the best fighters in the world, WHY i hear u all ask, its because fedor is running scared of real compation, all he’s doing is fighting ufc rejects, man i hope the pitbull kicks his russion ass all the way back home, people who still kiss fedor’s ass need to wake up and smell the coffie, the guys a big fish in a little pond and thats not guna change unless he grows a pair of balls and comes and fight in the ufc, im sure dana would love to match lesnar/randy/a-silva vs fedor, but no fedor likes to fight bums, he’s a yellow belly twat who wants an easy ride!!
DBiz, fedor has fought all the pride HWs.. i dunno if i could say in their prime, but you can say they were younger. his one loss was stopped after a cut that he suffered in the opening seconds. people who have not seen the pride fights live, not on youtube, and are all pro ufc i can understand riding Dana’s Dick on what he has to say about fedor. don’t get me wrong UFC is by far the best MMA venue around and will continue to be so. but until proven otherwise fedor is top HW, if not #1 hes #2 no if, ands, or buts.
can you really say fedor is backing down from anyone? come on. its the stupid russian agents and danas big fat bald head that can’t swallow his pride for one fight and do a co-event. none of these MMA fighters are scared of anyone. its the greed that is not letting this fedor vs. UFC/legitimate fighters and so on. however, this is my opinion.
T3 i will change my mind about fedor wen he comes to the ufc and beats the crap out of randy and brock, until that day happens iam going to hate on fedor as much as i can
touche johnny. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how far fetched it is
but i doubt that day will come. only because they won’t be able to come to an agreement with one another. UFC will try to extort fedor if he comes over. by that i mean him making little money and ufc making bookoos off of his name. it is unfortunate that the business side of MMA conflicts with the fighting and for the fans pleasure. all we can do is hope 
in the mean time i wouldn’t call AA washed up. this will be a very good fight and we can all say AA can pose a very good threat to fedor and give him a better challenge than maine-iac did! i doubt the barnett fight will happen since they are good friends, supposedly, and he was scheduled to fight fedor on this card but didn’t want to. THAT my friends would be a good fight.
White is running them out of business already (from what I understand).
Why bolster the ratings of a failing company with a response, let alone a co-promotion?
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They’ll fold. Fedor will sign with the only multi-million dollar promotion out there. We’ll see him mop the floor with whomever he wants soon enough.
However, Brock should be another animal by then (providing he’s still champ).
M-1 exists SOLELY to promote Fedor. IF he signs with te UFC, there is no more M-1.
Saying that Fedor is the #1 or #2 when he hasn’t fought a top-5 HW since 2005 is asinine and very much like an argument I had recently, I think. Fedor can call himself #1 or undisputed when he actually fights someone.
Winning a lot 4-8 years ago doesn’t mean he’s still good. Until he decides to come to the organization with the most talent, I’ll continue to call him scared. If hwe wants the best, he needs to come to the best and not expect everyone to come to him.
I suspect he’s weak in a cage and without the ability to head-kick on the ground.
Look, Dana has had a policy from the start: No cross-promotions and you only fight in the UFC. M-1 knows this so they feel like they can make Dana look silly by issuing a challenge they know he won’t take.
Oh, and Tim, if you think people on here are Dana White nuthuggers, what the hell do you think you are, you effing prick? Sounds like you’re just itching to drink the effing vodka that Fedor pisses out in the morning? Talk about nuthugging… Dumbass.
Al, how about you take you and your ignorant, backward speech and blow it out your tushie. Way to go. You made me use that kind of language. It is utterly amazing that any kind of remotely educated person could honestly say that kind of thing and have any modicum of self-respect. You are a waste of a few million sperm and a couple of bed sheets.
I also encourage anyone to look at Brock’s first five fights.
1. Min Soon Kim
2. Frank Mir
3. Heath Herring
4. Randy Couture
5. Frank/Nog
and Fedor’s
1. Levon Lagvilava
2. Hiroya Takada
3. Ricardo Arona
4. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka
5. Mihail Apostolov
No doubt Brock has better competition, right off the bat. (although there is an argument to be made for Arona)
Draw your own conclusions on where Brock will be in 25 tough fights…
[your response here]
“When the UFC is willing to have the #1 fighter in the world, then maybe they’ll need to offer him a contract that doesn’t treat Fedor with the respect he deserves and grant him some flexibility.”
He has been fighting the Kalib Starnes-caliber fighters of the heavyweight division for the last three years. He’s been cupcaking it up. And why should the UFC let him go risk injury when he is under contract to them? So he can get the belt, then get injured and have to be stripped of it?
It’s not a one-way street. If fighters want to be paid better, they need to accept that they have a responsibility to the UFC. That responsibility is not to compete elsewhere and risk injury. Fedor can’t have his cake and eat it too, just because his record is as near perfect now as it was when he stopped fighting real opponents.
If he wants to fight the best, he needs to man up and decide to do so. National pride, or actually fight the best. If he and M-1 keeps up this empty “challenges” (and I agree, he never floated this when Randy held the belt – too much chance of losing) the UFC will never sign him to a contract and the title of best p4p will move to someone who isn’t doing carnival shows every new year’s eve. Not that I think anyone who fights above 170 has that title anyway.
teterwin – Compare Brock’s first 5 with Fedor’s LAST five…
5. Mark Coleman
4. Mark Hunt
3. Matt Lindland (MW)
2. Hong-Man Choi
1. Tim Sylvia
Brock’s fights are STILL tougher.
DBiz, again I agree with you. Don’t have anything to add…again…thanks a lot.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say NOG will NOT submit Brock, and their fight will not go the distance. Nog hasn’t impressed me at all since joining the ufc, and his cardio is lacking as is Brock’s. Somebody is getting knocked the f out!
@ DBiz:
HA! I didn’t want to be the one to say it.
i really feel brock can beat fedor….fedor aint gonna arm bar him his arm is to big…he aint gonna choke him his shoulder and neck are to broud …so ya fedor cant do knee bar so im guessing brock beats fedor..i still think fedor is overrated…matt lindland rocked him in bodog and i thought lindland would have won if fedor had not held the ropes so he could get top position he was rocked and i think that the lindland slam that he was about to give fedor before he grabbed the ropes would have hurt him more and then he would have gnp’d to an easy and fast rnd 1 win
Hate to beat a dead horse…
Who has he beaten recently (within the last three years) that’s really worth talking about?
Silvia?
Lindland? (great MW)
Is anyone, ANYWHERE, talking about these guys?
Please give me the names of relevent HW’s worth mentioning.
An argument could be made that Fedor has ‘retired’ all the talent he has faced, that he beat them in their prime and their careers subsequently died….
but…
I doubt anyone here would buy that garbage.
One more point,
Mirko Filipovic – Decision
Renato Sobral – Decision
What the hell happened to Randy vs Fedor, it’s crazy what a loss will do to your career. I really would be more interested in seeing 2 veterans with skills in abundance fight than see Goliath try and steamroll Fedor. No insult to Lesnar i was just pumped for the possibility of Couture/Fedor.
@ mikew
I think anyone would want to see that fight, however, neither are at their pinnacle (at least we can agree that Randy isn’t).
The fight lost some of its luster.
I’m no expert, so maybe someone on here can help me out…
who the hell is,
Wagner da Conceicao Martins
Tsuyoshi Kohsaka
Naoya Ogawa
Yuji Nagata
Egidijus Valavicius
Semmy Schilt
Chris Haseman
Ryushi Yanagisawa
Lee Hasdell
…and the five I mentioned earlier…
and where are they now?
where can I watch them fight?
they must be excellent if they faced The Last Emperor.
M1 is awful, Jerry Millen is awful…
Just because Fedor is the WAMMA HW (and only champ) doesn’t make him the undisputed world hw champ
Fedor hasn’t ever fought Barnett and that disapoints me
Why didn’t Fedor fight in the GP why didn’t he fight CC after he won the GP o that’s right his hand got hurt
Now me being a Fedor fan I can even realize the problems with the lack of true competiton as of that, he did just beat Sylvia and is scheduled to fight AA good news forsure he has lost due to technicallities but a L is L right? M1 wants to make all the money they can rightnow and whynot call out Lesnar bring attention and it shows that they have offered on their terms to fight a UFC HW champ
Who would win well I will worry about that when or if the fight is ever signed
I will breakdown those names in time if you’re serious but there are some really good fighters on that list yet some not so much Yuji Nagata is 0-2-0 has only fought CC and Fedor in his MMA carrer TK handed Fedor his loss and Semmy Schilt is Fedor’s first PRIDE fight and the K-1 Champ
@ fr702
No need to break them down, thanks anyways.
I was using that as a wedge for my point, hoping it will break everyone from their delusions of invincibility.
You’re right on Yuji Nagata, he looks promising.
Aww I see I just got to this arguement or whatever it shall be
Fedor is great forsure but he is human forsure
Something the UFC would never go for. M-1 is crazy or stupid to even ask.
M-1 is almost irrelevant since Fedor is scared to fight Randy or anyone but an MMA rookie.
this is going to be so funny when Nougera wins against Mir and Lesnar and will become ufc undisputed heavyweight champin
I wonder what Dana and all you Fedor haiters will come up with to say that Fedor is still not number one in the world…..and I sugest you all start thinking now because it is not too much time left.
By the way it is not so much of the ranking or quality of opponents that Fedor fased make him great it is the consistency of his winning, he has never lost a round to anyone, and as we all know MMA is very unpredictable sport, specialy in hevyweight devision as we have once again seen last Saturday : one punch and youre out….
The quality of opponents doesn’t matter when choosing #1? Are you high? If he decides to fight me and ends with a decision (hey, I can run fast) does that mean he’s better than before the fight because it’s another win?
Quality absolutely determines your ranking. If you’ve fought nobodies for 3 years, you shouldn’t be ranked as high as someone who actually takes fights there’s a chance he should lose. Period.
I hope AA knocks Fedor into next year. Then everyone will shut up about him. And he won’t miss any fights because he’ll have his one fight in for the year.
Fedor all the way.
Lesnar is done son!
@ dbiz
You can bend my words as much as you can but it will not change my point
Fedor did not fight complete nobodys (like you if you will) he fought people who are training in this sport for living every day of the week and one clean punch or kick landed form them would mean it is over, Fedor wether it was in the begining of his career or at this point has never lost his concentration and ability avoid any attacks standing or on the ground and there is no one like him…
Lesnar isn’t done because this fight will never happen, Kuma. I hope Lesnar loses to Nogueira/Mir, but it sure as hell won’t be against Fedor unless Fedor ditches M-1 and signs with the UFC.
rusrav, he fights once a year freak shows. certainly doesn’t constitute pfp or hw world blaw blaw blaw
lesnar might have a chance if he elbows and cuts fedor.
probably fedor would win though
I think you guys should just get along. Second do some research, Fedor and Couture already tested each other. Fedor submitted Couture shortly after that they became friends. Think about it Couture and Fedor were suppose to fight and everyone was crazy about that until they went at it secretly and Couture lost, that is why Couture went back to the UFC and when he lost against Lesner, Couture said him self right after the fight that Fedor would tear him apart. Now think!! Why would Couture have said that, its because he knows first hand what Fedor is capable of. Research guys, thats all it takes, do not argue.
Another thing, Fedor put a 360lbs all muscle Korean 7 foot tall monster in an armbar twice in one fight, the first time the big guy did not tap. The second time his arm that was the size of fedor him self got broken, lol if Lesner could learn all the things he needs he would destroy anyone him self, both Lesner and Fedor are the same age, so when they do fight and they will nooone can say that Lesner was too old or young if he looses. If Lesner wins which he could do easy with one punch than thats awesome too, I wanna see both fighters succeed man oh and Dana White is a greedy idiot. One of these days all fighters around the world will leave all their agents and represent them selves and call eachother up and say “hey lets fight real quick”
*ahem* I have discovered the cause of his most recent “mysterious hand injury”
“Emelianenko will finish his acting work on a forthcoming action movie in Thailand this month”
Someone should have warned him ahead of time: “Baaaaaa” means no…
ahem??? that’s funny
Man, its sad that no one has pointed out the obvious. The UFC is a business and has to be treated like such. Now, your heavyweight champ (Couture) is seeking a fight that most MMA buffs believe he can’t win. Do you think the UFC would gamble away their their credibility like that? I don’t think so. Especially, when the other fighter isn’t signed to the company. Signing Fedor to the UFC meant that if Fedor beat Couture, he would do so as an UFC fighter leaving their cred intact as well as the best fighter in the world.
We all know Couture was just trying to quickly honor his contract so a fight with Fedor could be set up. The UFC isn’t stupid, they knew what Randy was up to and quickly devised their own plan. Why would they give Couture 2 easy beats to finish off his contract before being led to the slaughter. For the UFC it meant they had 2 chances to find a new heavyweight champ. It makes alot more sense to try and take his title away before his contract is up.
This brings me to Brock Lesnar. how do you get a title shot with a 1-1 UFC record? Why not Nogueira? Makes more sense doesn’t it? Both Couture and Nog bet Tim Sylvia who was absolutely destroyed by Fedor. Fedor has beaten Nog twice, so Randy fighting Nog would have given us some type of indication on how a potential fight with Fedor would end up. So why? I’ll tell you why.. because if Nog won it wouldn’t look good for the UFC at all seeing that Nog has two losses to Fedor. Enter Brock Lesnar – he always had a chance against Randy considering his wrestling background and physical attributes. Given he has just signed a multi fight deal with the UFC he won’t be going anywhere anytime soon meaning Fedor’s only chance to fight Brock is in the Octagon.
As a longtime UFC fan, this whole debacle is really turning me off. Why not sign Fedor to a 1 – 3 fight contract with predetermined opponents or just a one off with Brock then let him do his own thing. Because in the end, even if Fedor beat Brock, I wouldn’t consider him the UFC champ but rather the best MMA fighter on the planet.
Just because Britney Spears sells millions of records it doesn’t make her the best singer!
Dana only knows how to sue his fighters…. He will never accept a challenge.
nonymyz,
For the Brock getting a title shot arguement, go here and read what we already said, leave that dead horse alone, there’s not much left to beat.
Also, the thing with Fedor signing with the UFC has been beaten to death at least twice just on the comments from this one story. Fedor won’t sign an exclusive contract, UFC only does exclusive contracts, and they don’t cross promote, period. You’re not going to see Mac and Microsoft work together any time soon, why would you expect to competing MMA promotions to work together.
Justin that was very polite of you. I’m glad it was you and not me or some of the other politically incorrect. Good on ya
Justin,
Ok, so I don’t read previous articles nor do I even care to. I don’t usually leave comments because I don’t want to pretend like I’m some MMA historian (aka internet geek). I had an opinion and I left it.
I never mentioned anything about cross promotions or anything to that effect and I think my stand on that is quite clear if you read my comment properly. THE UFC WOULD ONLY LET A UFC SIGNED FIGHTER, FIGHT FOR THE TITLE, so for me to suggest a cross promotion would be pretty contradictive. What I hope for is a compromise (which I believe won’t happen, because both parties need this fight, not just Fedor.
Oh, and surfingk5, thankfully it was Justin and not you because I surely would have pissed in my trousers lol.
“UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE W -O -R -L -D”
uh.
like,
that’s a contradiction of terms dude.
i have backyard bareknuckle org,
(which yes, granny won again this year – shut up about that, please will ya),
And right in my backyard, when the title fight comes we say that the winner is backyard doeboi champ of the world.
who are you gonna believe the doe boi or some fly by nite org like the ‘ ‘Unlikely Fight Challengers’
anyway,
BROCK DOESN’t even have the UFC belt, (he ate six BELT sandwiches from Tim hortons coffee though.
as far as I’m concerned – Dana gave him something that looks smells and tastes like the belt.
no, Brock didn’t actually take a bite out of it – i think….
NOG does and he has the scars to prove it.
no disrespect, the Brock’s a formidible athlete with increasing skillz.
I will be very surprised if he beats big NOGGIN. reason- although he’s great he wont finish big nog – no one has yet. and most eventually get caught – except me.. oops , i meant to say fedor. did i say ‘me’ i meant to say fedor. my inside voice slipped outside
while ufc wouldn’t risk having there champ (
Ya know Dana’s big **** is he dosnt want his heavy weight belt leaving the UFC,and I still think Randy can beat Fedor (like a red hair school girl) so break the FD and co-promo a fight now with Randy and Fedor, make Randy a really happy man, and if Fedor can some how get by Randy then let Brock do it…not for the belt but for the undesputed title that Fedor thinks he has, it would shut Affliction-M-1 up(and shut them down with their claim to fame NTFO)and (since Dana wants supremacy in MMA) Dana would make so much Fking money he wouldn’t know what to do with himself,(and UFC would be the undisputed brand) HEY HE COULD BUY A LIFE… no but he could quit ****in and stay home a little.
SO…MAKE THE FANS AND RANDY HAPPY AND LET FEDOR GET NTFO!!!!!
but…..whothehellamI
nice…….
surfingk5 said:
Justin that was very polite of you. I’m glad it was you and not me or some of the other politically incorrect. Good on ya
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I can hear you, you know.
“You’re not going to see Mac and Microsoft work together any time soon, why would you expect to competing MMA promotions to work together.”
Not a good analogy at all, they’re two different products. Further, Mac and Microsoft, at least to the extent they share their software interfaces with some of the same software and hardware vendors/suppliers, do work together in that particular sense. Further still, Mac and Microsoft do compete against one another in the open marketplace. By contrast, the UFC is attempting to forge something of a monopoly. The analogy doesn’t hold. An apt analogy would be one with the world of boxing.
Still, the UFC would be fearful of a Lesnar loss in such a situation – and a Lesnar loss would be highly probable, certainly so at this point in his career and within the foreseeable future – and though Dana White would spin it differently, that fear alone would drive his and the Fertittas’ decision. As a business decision, fine, it’s a tough, hardnosed business. But to hear Dana White spin it and be dismissive of Fedor is boorish in the extreme.
Fedor and Lesnar is the match, in a better world, that would happen. A real pity it won’t occur.
Well, I tried to be nice, I had a tendency in the past of getting into it with the trolls, and I wanted to try to avoid it. They were still trolly though. Nothing is being added to this thread at this point, should probably let it die.
actually EVEN mac and pc work together – forced to be compatible in many ways – as both their users share the world – some are even married…..
anyway that’s not even the point.
the point is to bizness people MMA IS A BUSINESS.
but there is a whole other dimension :
that’s about sport. do you not think randy or fedor or brock or a lot of these guys could retire – they could. but they don’t
LOVE OF SPORT.
so could UFC allow this – hell yea.
i it just personal pride of the organizers – i think, yea
Fedor can make the fight happen. He just needs to sign with the UFC. If it is important to him, he will do it. Since he hasn’t and has no intention of signing with the UFC, it clearly isn’t that important to him. Period. End of discussion.
Why everyone feels the need to act like this is all the UFC’s fault is beyond me. Fedor has had many chances to sign a UFC contract and he didn’t. So **** him and his lip-flapping. If he really wants the fight he is in the unique position to make it happen.
dbiz,
by your logic then,
nadal should sign excusively w. wimbledon.
if federer wants to be #1 he should do the same.
if it was the only thing that mattered TO HIM – he should sign.
but maybe,
just maybe,
ufc and fighting:
rookie brock, and
45yr old randy and
big nog for the 4rth time,
is not as impotant as fighting arlovski who looked awesome), and BARNETT
who many feel is the best living mma HW contewnder
Wrong analogy, doeboi. Wimbledon is one tournament on one tennis tour. Your analogy would have someone like Jimmy Johnson only allowed to race at Daytona to the exclusion of all other tracks. He wouldn’t win a title so of course he wouldn’t do it. Now if there was another startup racing organization and NASCAR required their drivers to sign an exclusivity deal to the exclusion of the other organization… That should have been the analogy you used.
In that case, no one would care. There might be a couple of lower quality guys who make the jump and win a few titles, but no one would really care because they are not being perceived as competing against the best stock car drivers in the world. Perception is reality.
bla bla
barnett
and AA are better competition for fedor than in ufc right now
actually if your ramble indicates anything
it’s that competing exclusively has limitations
being in the ufc and claiming
‘i wanna fight the best’
amounts to fighting the ufc’s best only.
that’s not my opinion – it’s dictated by the contract, isn’t it now?
@ dbiz, lol
don’t feel special, there’s a couple more i thought of!!! i’m just as guilty. i get the sauce in me and get all emotional and have my morning noon and evening rants. gotta love it!!! lol
Brock MIGHT have a chance against Fedor, cuz he so big
yea maybe,
hunt kept on top – but in the case of hunt his fists are way more lethal than brock’s, and his ground game nothing compared to brock’s – all to say fedor was comfortable having big mark rub his butt in his face for 7 minutes, before fedor finally reversed hunt and showed him him to sub
when hunt connects though it’s lights out.
fedor hurt him with the sub though
THESE MATCHES WILL NEVER HAPPEN WHICH IS SAD. WHEN AFFLICTION GOES BELLY UP FEDOR WILL FADE INTO OBSCURITY DUE TO THE RIDICULOUS DEMANDS MADE BY HIM MANAGEMENT. ITS QUITE APPARENT HE DOES NOT WANT TO WORK FOR UFC. IF DANA WHITE WAS ANTI-FEDOR (PRIDE)WHY DID HE SIGN ALL THEIR OTHER GOOD FIGHTERS.ALSO, BY THE TIME HE WAS A FREE AGENT ALOT OF THE PRIDE GUYS HAD NOT RETURNED MUCH ON THE INVESTMENT THE UFC MADE.(CRO-COP)I TRY TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT I WILL NEVER SEE FEDOR FIGHT IN ANY LONG TERM ORGANIZATION.
exactly,
he did sign those other guys (who didn’t pan out – like page and nog haha)
if he can’t sign them on his terms he doesn’t give a flying phuarck
you could be right it’ll never happen, but like i said i’d rather see fedor barnett than fedor brock anyway
“like i said i’d rather see fedor barnett than fedor brock anyway”
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Spare tire vs. spare tire in a vulcanized rubber match!
Josh “Watch me ripple, hear me roar” Barnett hasn’t shown me anything….ever. 0-3 against Cro Cop, 1-1 against lil Nog and PEdro Rizzo…. and you consider him Fedor’s competition, after you dismiss everyone in the UFC?
Good lord. the only way he competes with Fedor is looking the least impressive on the way to the ring on fight night.
Opps, got my Antonio R. Nogueiras confused. Big Nog in the above.
you make good points, and funny too!
while your stats are correct they are stats only…
mirko was awesome in those fights and barnett tapped in one as he was blinded – not saying it was random but you get my drift.
-0-3 TO CC yea – but outclassed no.
one or 2 were grand prix fights as well.
i do still think he’s a tougher match up for fedor than most, because, his stand up is good enough to KO when he connects – in other words you cant ONLY just watch the takedown,
but,
HIS GROUND IS UNIQUE AND 2ND TO NONE, he’s big and fedor fights always go to the ground. i’m not trashing brock mir nog kongo etc – just thinking that barnett poses a tougher match up.
i always take rock paper scissors logic over stats saying who beat who or who’s record is better.
that being said werdum or a welll conditioned GG vs fedor would be interesting