Comments on: Cane, Miller, Lytle, and Taylor Score $40K UFC 89 Bonuses http://mmafrenzy.com/6843/cane-miller-lytle-and-taylor-score-40k-ufc-89-bonuses/ UFC and MMA News Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:55:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/6843/cane-miller-lytle-and-taylor-score-40k-ufc-89-bonuses/#comment-72110 Justin Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:24:37 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6843#comment-72110 Ryan-S, No hard feelings, mate. The problem with Bisping is that the Hammil fight, and his actions after the decision have really polarized a lot of people, they either hate him and think he's terrible, or they love him and think he's the best fighter in the world. Then when people that are really in the middle try to argue one way or another about a particular performance (like Sat. night) they get lumped into one of the extreme groups and attacked as such. Ryan-S,
No hard feelings, mate. The problem with Bisping is that the Hammil fight, and his actions after the decision have really polarized a lot of people, they either hate him and think he’s terrible, or they love him and think he’s the best fighter in the world. Then when people that are really in the middle try to argue one way or another about a particular performance (like Sat. night) they get lumped into one of the extreme groups and attacked as such.

]]> By: Ryan-S http://mmafrenzy.com/6843/cane-miller-lytle-and-taylor-score-40k-ufc-89-bonuses/#comment-72108 Ryan-S Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:55:56 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6843#comment-72108 Justin, 2girls2cups , hey you lot, what's up? Youknow, firstly I must apologise if it seemed I got a little heated with some comments, lol. We all have our own opinions, and I just thought that recently Bisping was getting a bit too much crap than he deserved. Good comments about Taylor, I wasn't aware they had agreed to go for fight of the night, and I also saw the weigh ins live, what a donut eh?? So, with that in mind, sorry you folks. I am just also still buzzing from the fight night, and the weekend, so to hear it was crap tv viewing was not really what I expected. Anyway, I cannot disagree that Bisping has a few fights before a title, and, I also think he's not the best in the UFC either. He will do good, but I just felt I had to toss in Anderson Silva as an expample of someone he'd have to beat to be respected. Christ, I like Bisping more than Machida I think, don't you? Anyway, thanks for the replies guys, and no hard feelings, I was just a little pissed off. lol. cheers Justin, 2girls2cups ,

hey you lot, what’s up?

Youknow,
firstly I must apologise if it seemed I got a little heated with some comments, lol. We all have our own opinions, and I just thought that recently Bisping was getting a bit too much crap than he deserved.

Good comments about Taylor, I wasn’t aware they had agreed to go for fight of the night, and I also saw the weigh ins live, what a donut eh??

So, with that in mind, sorry you folks.

I am just also still buzzing from the fight night, and the weekend, so to hear it was crap tv viewing was not really what I expected.

Anyway, I cannot disagree that Bisping has a few fights before a title, and, I also think he’s not the best in the UFC either.

He will do good, but I just felt I had to toss in Anderson Silva as an expample of someone he’d have to beat to be respected.

Christ, I like Bisping more than Machida I think, don’t you?

Anyway, thanks for the replies guys, and no hard feelings,
I was just a little pissed off.
lol.
cheers

]]> By: Java http://mmafrenzy.com/6843/cane-miller-lytle-and-taylor-score-40k-ufc-89-bonuses/#comment-72105 Java Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:50:54 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6843#comment-72105 Watching the fight unfold I knew Bisping was going to win. He was doing just enough counter-punching and kicking to not make it look like he was running away (which I don't think he was, but appearances and all..). Leben was clearly the aggressor throughout and pressed the fight, Bisping was content to sit back and counter-attack, which is fine for winning a fight but it can make for one helluva boring fight. Bisping was faster than Leben and the leg kicks slowed Chris down plenty so it was easy for the Count to get in there and out-point Leben. Bisping said at the end that that was his game plan all along. It worked. It sucked to watch, but it worked, so more power to him there. It could be that this is the kinda stuff we'll see out of him, adapting to his opponents style and trying to "survive to win". It might not be pretty, but neither is a "lay-and-pray" win. Watching the fight unfold I knew Bisping was going to win. He was doing just enough counter-punching and kicking to not make it look like he was running away (which I don’t think he was, but appearances and all..). Leben was clearly the aggressor throughout and pressed the fight, Bisping was content to sit back and counter-attack, which is fine for winning a fight but it can make for one helluva boring fight. Bisping was faster than Leben and the leg kicks slowed Chris down plenty so it was easy for the Count to get in there and out-point Leben.

Bisping said at the end that that was his game plan all along. It worked. It sucked to watch, but it worked, so more power to him there. It could be that this is the kinda stuff we’ll see out of him, adapting to his opponents style and trying to “survive to win”. It might not be pretty, but neither is a “lay-and-pray” win.

]]> By: 2girls2cups http://mmafrenzy.com/6843/cane-miller-lytle-and-taylor-score-40k-ufc-89-bonuses/#comment-72000 2girls2cups Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:36:43 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6843#comment-72000 and to retort comment on the lytle decision, i coulda seen it goin either way on the stand up cuz both fighters had a grip of shots land, but after watchin the fight again, i think the takedowns are what put him over the top. it sucked that taylor had to lose cuz i really like that guy but as far as i'm concerned they both looked good and fight of the night will keep him movin up in the ranks as it did with guida. and for bisping, everyone gettin pissed about what the critics say can do themselves a favor and read what's bein put down 99% of the time. rarely are people saying he's not a good fighter, just that he's overrated. he gets hyped as this animal who's runnin thru the middleweight division and leben is the first real 185er that he's faced. he IS a good fighter, but he even admitted that he's not at a level to be thinkin about title shots yet, and he also admitted that he always gets asked about it. that to me sounds like he himself knows he's overhyped. and lookin at how he fought leben, yes he fought a smart fight and won hands down, but i think he was exposed a little as bein a bit scared of someone that wasn't a weak opponent. he may have received the W but leben takin those shots at the end of the fight made it very clear that bisping wasn't as crazy as many think. even with leben askin to get punched, bisping was still runnin backwards! what's he gonna do against someone like hendo with an equally strong chin and in my opinion a much better offense than leben. and to retort comment on the lytle decision, i coulda seen it goin either way on the stand up cuz both fighters had a grip of shots land, but after watchin the fight again, i think the takedowns are what put him over the top. it sucked that taylor had to lose cuz i really like that guy but as far as i’m concerned they both looked good and fight of the night will keep him movin up in the ranks as it did with guida.

and for bisping, everyone gettin pissed about what the critics say can do themselves a favor and read what’s bein put down 99% of the time. rarely are people saying he’s not a good fighter, just that he’s overrated. he gets hyped as this animal who’s runnin thru the middleweight division and leben is the first real 185er that he’s faced. he IS a good fighter, but he even admitted that he’s not at a level to be thinkin about title shots yet, and he also admitted that he always gets asked about it. that to me sounds like he himself knows he’s overhyped. and lookin at how he fought leben, yes he fought a smart fight and won hands down, but i think he was exposed a little as bein a bit scared of someone that wasn’t a weak opponent. he may have received the W but leben takin those shots at the end of the fight made it very clear that bisping wasn’t as crazy as many think. even with leben askin to get punched, bisping was still runnin backwards! what’s he gonna do against someone like hendo with an equally strong chin and in my opinion a much better offense than leben.

]]> By: 2girls2cups http://mmafrenzy.com/6843/cane-miller-lytle-and-taylor-score-40k-ufc-89-bonuses/#comment-71984 2girls2cups Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:57:00 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6843#comment-71984 ryan-s , how do you really feel? hahaah. i think we were in agreement on all the points but i still feel like i just got yelled at for sayin davis by mistake, lol. ryan-s , how do you really feel? hahaah. i think we were in agreement on all the points but i still feel like i just got yelled at for sayin davis by mistake, lol.

]]> By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/6843/cane-miller-lytle-and-taylor-score-40k-ufc-89-bonuses/#comment-71983 Justin Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:51:07 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6843#comment-71983 Ryan-S, I was the one that said it seemed at times Lytle and Taylor backed off (not sure why I said Lytle/Davis in the actual comment, I know it was Taylor). I don't disagree that they were fight of the night, and I don't disagree that they were entertaining. I thoroughly enjoyed that fight. I recognize that I couldn't do any better, at least not without training and getting some fights under my belt, but then I never said I could do better. To quote myself "I don’t know if it was just me, but there times in that fight where it looked like one of the fighters thought “Oh I’m about to finish him, I better give him a chance to recover, we can’t get fight of the night if we don’t go the whole distance.” And I thought both did this at times." If I were to just watch that fight, not knowing that at the weigh-ins they had agreed to go for fight of the night, I would probably have not had any thought of them laying up to keep the fight going. The way I worded that, I was just throwing that out there, and I recognized that people would probably disagree, I wanted to get other peoples' opinion to see if I was the only one that thought that or not. You attacking me personally saying I was out of line, and that I should get in there and try to do better was uncalled for. Ryan-S,
I was the one that said it seemed at times Lytle and Taylor backed off (not sure why I said Lytle/Davis in the actual comment, I know it was Taylor). I don’t disagree that they were fight of the night, and I don’t disagree that they were entertaining. I thoroughly enjoyed that fight. I recognize that I couldn’t do any better, at least not without training and getting some fights under my belt, but then I never said I could do better. To quote myself “I don’t know if it was just me, but there times in that fight where it looked like one of the fighters thought “Oh I’m about to finish him, I better give him a chance to recover, we can’t get fight of the night if we don’t go the whole distance.” And I thought both did this at times.” If I were to just watch that fight, not knowing that at the weigh-ins they had agreed to go for fight of the night, I would probably have not had any thought of them laying up to keep the fight going. The way I worded that, I was just throwing that out there, and I recognized that people would probably disagree, I wanted to get other peoples’ opinion to see if I was the only one that thought that or not. You attacking me personally saying I was out of line, and that I should get in there and try to do better was uncalled for.

]]> By: DR.DOOM http://mmafrenzy.com/6843/cane-miller-lytle-and-taylor-score-40k-ufc-89-bonuses/#comment-71977 DR.DOOM Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:36:23 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6843#comment-71977 heres an Idea , stick bisping in with Paulo filho after he comes to the ufc . If bisping can beat him I would be impressed ..... but he won t and we all know it .Acually a bisping vs sonnen would also be a good test of his skills .Bisping has some talent , and he fights smart . unfortunately this makes for a lousy mma match .... if he was a boxer it would be good , but most mma fans wanna see it finished not left up to judges. heres an Idea , stick bisping in with Paulo filho after he comes to the ufc . If bisping can beat him I would be impressed ….. but he won t and we all know it .Acually a bisping vs sonnen would also be a good test of his skills .Bisping has some talent , and he fights smart . unfortunately this makes for a lousy mma match …. if he was a boxer it would be good , but most mma fans wanna see it finished not left up to judges.

]]> By: Ryan-S http://mmafrenzy.com/6843/cane-miller-lytle-and-taylor-score-40k-ufc-89-bonuses/#comment-71976 Ryan-S Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:33:18 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6843#comment-71976 FR702, hey man, what's up ? lol, I think I know at the end of the Day Silva is a machine, but, Bisping is NEVER gonna be respected until he does someone like Silva, and that's how i feel so many oin here are going on about him. Oh yeah, let's bring the Hamill fight up time and time and time again. It's the judges decision guys ????? Anyhow, I like Bisping but just can't hack the bashing he gets all the time. He's doing just fine, nobody has really STOPPED him yet, not even the god-forsaken-HAMILL. So there, Hamill couldn't stop him, end of story. I think I would like to see Bisping vs Marquardt as I feel it'll be a good stand up. People on here are bashin Bisping cos he back tracked some in the leben fight, so what? Machida does it permenantly and get's a pat on the back. Also, bisping sure did mess up leben's face for him. So he must have done SOME damage guys, come on. FR702, hey man, what’s up ?
lol, I think I know at the end of the Day Silva is a machine, but, Bisping is NEVER gonna be respected until he does someone like Silva, and that’s how i feel so many oin here are going on about him. Oh yeah, let’s bring the Hamill fight up time and time and time again.
It’s the judges decision guys ?????

Anyhow, I like Bisping but just can’t hack the bashing he gets all the time. He’s doing just fine, nobody has really STOPPED him yet, not even the god-forsaken-HAMILL.
So there, Hamill couldn’t stop him, end of story.
I think I would like to see Bisping vs Marquardt as I feel it’ll be a good stand up.
People on here are bashin Bisping cos he back tracked some in the leben fight, so what? Machida does it permenantly and get’s a pat on the back.
Also, bisping sure did mess up leben’s face for him. So he must have done SOME damage guys, come on.

]]> By: FR702 http://mmafrenzy.com/6843/cane-miller-lytle-and-taylor-score-40k-ufc-89-bonuses/#comment-71975 FR702 Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:26:47 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6843#comment-71975 Ryan-S, preach son, now up until Bisbing ko'ing Silva I was with you nice to hear someone just throw a true bitter rant out there cheers.... Ryan-S, preach son, now up until Bisbing ko’ing Silva I was with you nice to hear someone just throw a true bitter rant out there cheers….

]]> By: Ryan-S http://mmafrenzy.com/6843/cane-miller-lytle-and-taylor-score-40k-ufc-89-bonuses/#comment-71974 Ryan-S Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:09:57 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6843#comment-71974 and, whoever it was bashing Taylor vs Lytle for fight of the night, you are out of line mate. They were slogging it out all the way, and if they did let off for a bit it was probably cos they burned up more energy in 3 rounds than alot of other guys. That was a bloody war, I totally enjoyed it, so how about you get your backsides in there and do better ? I mean, come on you lot, nothing seems to please, not even fight of the night. How childish to think they were holding off because of that, really. Taylor is an animal and he loses wars not crappy fights, wars. He should have won against Lytle tho I think, and we brits were pissed off he didn't . No disrespect to Lytle, he made the fight a war with Taylor and that was what we wanted to see. and, whoever it was bashing Taylor vs Lytle for fight of the night, you are out of line mate.
They were slogging it out all the way, and if they did let off for a bit it was probably cos they burned up more energy in 3 rounds than alot of other guys. That was a bloody war, I totally enjoyed it, so how about you get your backsides in there and do better ?
I mean, come on you lot, nothing seems to please, not even fight of the night.
How childish to think they were holding off because of that, really.

Taylor is an animal and he loses wars not crappy fights, wars. He should have won against Lytle tho I think, and we brits were pissed off he didn’t .
No disrespect to Lytle, he made the fight a war with Taylor and that was what we wanted to see.

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