Comments on: Report: Shamrock Paid To Stand Up With Slice http://mmafrenzy.com/6441/report-shamrock-paid-to-stand-up-with-slice/ UFC and MMA News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:26:27 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: windmiller http://mmafrenzy.com/6441/report-shamrock-paid-to-stand-up-with-slice/#comment-70489 windmiller Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:13:16 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6441#comment-70489 it pisses me off when people suggest fights are fixxed! Kimbo fights are the only ones that i know of that seem to be fixxed! The UFC are NOT gunna try to change the fighting style of any fighter in any way shape or form! ecsept lick with "the truth" when fighters are just lay z! they will NOT jepordize their good name, they know that fighters will open there mouth as soon as they get cut from the UFC or if the fight doesn't go their way! look at Seth he beat Kimbo in 14 seconds and he didn't know enough to keep quit! then he had to back peddle and make a lyer out of himself! THE UFC DOES NOT HAVE FIXXED FIGHTS NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL! PEOPLE STAND WITH CHUCK BECAUSE HIS TAKE DOWN DEFENSE IS THE BEST IN THE GIZ-AME! it pisses me off when people suggest fights are fixxed! Kimbo fights are the only ones that i know of that seem to be fixxed! The UFC are NOT gunna try to change the fighting style of any fighter in any way shape or form! ecsept lick with “the truth” when fighters are just lay z! they will NOT jepordize their good name, they know that fighters will open there mouth as soon as they get cut from the UFC or if the fight doesn’t go their way! look at Seth he beat Kimbo in 14 seconds and he didn’t know enough to keep quit! then he had to back peddle and make a lyer out of himself! THE UFC DOES NOT HAVE FIXXED FIGHTS NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL! PEOPLE STAND WITH CHUCK BECAUSE HIS TAKE DOWN DEFENSE IS THE BEST IN THE GIZ-AME!

]]> By: Us And Chuck http://mmafrenzy.com/6441/report-shamrock-paid-to-stand-up-with-slice/#comment-70461 Us And Chuck Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:10:01 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6441#comment-70461 I agree with you Gunslinger i think Bisping could beat Silva but i really hope they do not push him too soon as i do not think he is anywhere title contention. Bisping needs at least another 3-5 fights before a showdown with Silva although i have this feeling they will throw him in there not long after TUF 9. On another note i watched UFC 83 the other night and Bisping was awesome in that fight if he can that type of aggression and relentlessness he will be MW in 2010 IMO I agree with you Gunslinger i think Bisping could beat Silva but i really hope they do not push him too soon as i do not think he is anywhere title contention.

Bisping needs at least another 3-5 fights before a showdown with Silva although i have this feeling they will throw him in there not long after TUF 9.

On another note i watched UFC 83 the other night and Bisping was awesome in that fight if he can that type of aggression and relentlessness he will be MW in 2010 IMO

]]> By: KOuch http://mmafrenzy.com/6441/report-shamrock-paid-to-stand-up-with-slice/#comment-70412 KOuch Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:52:45 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6441#comment-70412 Elite could be cool if they did business with someone other than Affliction and different people running the show than the Shaw family. F-ing jerks. Boxing influence and antics....f'em. POS. Poisonous bastards. MMA is still pure and clean or so it was. Dicks. Elite could be cool if they did business with someone other than Affliction and different people running the show than the Shaw family. F-ing jerks. Boxing influence and antics….f’em. POS. Poisonous bastards. MMA is still pure and clean or so it was. Dicks.

]]> By: 2girls2cups http://mmafrenzy.com/6441/report-shamrock-paid-to-stand-up-with-slice/#comment-70410 2girls2cups Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:47:47 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6441#comment-70410 i'm not gonna disagree that he's better at 185 but to honestly think he's a threat to silva when all he's done is face entry level fighters is kinda off the mark. 185 isn't the most stacked division and he's still yet to fight a legit contender. leben is a tough dude and will be his first real challenge but i wouldn't say leben's a top 5. let bisping beat henderson or marquardt before everyone starts talkin title shot. i’m not gonna disagree that he’s better at 185 but to honestly think he’s a threat to silva when all he’s done is face entry level fighters is kinda off the mark. 185 isn’t the most stacked division and he’s still yet to fight a legit contender. leben is a tough dude and will be his first real challenge but i wouldn’t say leben’s a top 5. let bisping beat henderson or marquardt before everyone starts talkin title shot.

]]> By: The Gunslinger http://mmafrenzy.com/6441/report-shamrock-paid-to-stand-up-with-slice/#comment-70389 The Gunslinger Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:43:24 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6441#comment-70389 i dont think some people understand exactly how much better at mdw bisping is than at lhw ...he can pose a legitimate challenge to silva nad no im not joking......ive never seen someone so relentless,fast and powerful at mdw before except silva so bisping will get his shot and has a good chance at winning i dont think some people understand exactly how much better at mdw bisping is than at lhw …he can pose a legitimate challenge to silva nad no im not joking……ive never seen someone so relentless,fast and powerful at mdw before except silva so bisping will get his shot and has a good chance at winning

]]> By: Dave5555 http://mmafrenzy.com/6441/report-shamrock-paid-to-stand-up-with-slice/#comment-70363 Dave5555 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:57:15 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6441#comment-70363 I think 2cups is right about bisping. I was talking to a friend about bisping and we think that Dana needs him to win because of the European market. Dana & co. is spending alot of money to set-up fights overseas. UFC definitely needs a local superstar over there. Dana would love to make Bisping the 'Chuck Liddell' of Europe. I think 2cups is right about bisping. I was talking to a friend about bisping and we think that Dana needs him to win because of the European market. Dana & co. is spending alot of money to set-up fights overseas. UFC definitely needs a local superstar over there. Dana would love to make Bisping the ‘Chuck Liddell’ of Europe.

]]> By: 2girls2cups http://mmafrenzy.com/6441/report-shamrock-paid-to-stand-up-with-slice/#comment-70350 2girls2cups Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:56:05 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6441#comment-70350 that's kinda questionable. i for one have a hard time believing that the UFC is squeeky clean but regarding those examples i'm not so sure i agree. wandy's a good stand up fighter and chuck has a great take down defense so it didn't surprise me at all that the fight went that way. jardine had a strategy and stuck to it and won. rashad did the same. the only somewhat questionable strategies i can think of that the UFC is kinda noticeable with is protecting certain fighters by giving them weak competition. bisping is the worst example of this, and huerta (although i like the guy) falls under the same category. that’s kinda questionable. i for one have a hard time believing that the UFC is squeeky clean but regarding those examples i’m not so sure i agree. wandy’s a good stand up fighter and chuck has a great take down defense so it didn’t surprise me at all that the fight went that way. jardine had a strategy and stuck to it and won. rashad did the same.

the only somewhat questionable strategies i can think of that the UFC is kinda noticeable with is protecting certain fighters by giving them weak competition. bisping is the worst example of this, and huerta (although i like the guy) falls under the same category.

]]> By: Dave, Md http://mmafrenzy.com/6441/report-shamrock-paid-to-stand-up-with-slice/#comment-70349 Dave, Md Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:55:33 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6441#comment-70349 I give them less than a year and they will fold I give them less than a year and they will fold

]]> By: Dave5555 http://mmafrenzy.com/6441/report-shamrock-paid-to-stand-up-with-slice/#comment-70344 Dave5555 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:44:25 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6441#comment-70344 I think Dana employed this strategy during the Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva fight. I think they paid Wanderlei to stand up against Chuck. I was very surprised when Silva never attempted to shoot on chuck and get him on the ground. They may have even paid Keith Jardine and Rashad Evens to stand up against Chuck also. Now it appears that this goes on in the UFC with Dana White. I think Dana employed this strategy during the Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva fight. I think they paid Wanderlei to stand up against Chuck.
I was very surprised when Silva never attempted to shoot on chuck and get him on the ground. They may have even paid Keith Jardine and Rashad Evens to stand up against Chuck also.
Now it appears that this goes on in the UFC with Dana White.

]]> By: 2girls2cups http://mmafrenzy.com/6441/report-shamrock-paid-to-stand-up-with-slice/#comment-70343 2girls2cups Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:39:47 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=6441#comment-70343 doesn't surprise me at all. i've watched replays of kimbo vs cantrell and i think it was a fixed fight. the thompson fight was contreversial. the whole thing with nick diaz losing the title shot, gettin to stay the number one contender, and then stripping the belt from noons so nick could fight is ridiculous. in my opinion not only is elite manufacturing who gets to win, but they aren't even tryin to hide it. this is why they will never succeed. no real mma fan's will ever buy into it. also imo, alot of people think that kimbo and elite are good for the sport cuz of the exposure but i disagree cuz if that's what i saw as my first impression, i doubt i'd wanna watch any further cuz i'd expect that the one who got the network deal was the best. doesn’t surprise me at all. i’ve watched replays of kimbo vs cantrell and i think it was a fixed fight. the thompson fight was contreversial. the whole thing with nick diaz losing the title shot, gettin to stay the number one contender, and then stripping the belt from noons so nick could fight is ridiculous. in my opinion not only is elite manufacturing who gets to win, but they aren’t even tryin to hide it. this is why they will never succeed. no real mma fan’s will ever buy into it. also imo, alot of people think that kimbo and elite are good for the sport cuz of the exposure but i disagree cuz if that’s what i saw as my first impression, i doubt i’d wanna watch any further cuz i’d expect that the one who got the network deal was the best.

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