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		<title>By: SOLO</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/5594/affliction-and-golden-boy-form-partnership/#comment-66252</link>
		<dc:creator>SOLO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UFC 99 Mexico vs USA!!!!!!!!

GRRRREAT IDEA!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UFC 99 Mexico vs USA!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>GRRRREAT IDEA!!!</p>
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		<title>By: iced liddell</title>
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		<dc:creator>iced liddell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so, so disapointing!

I love MMA but hate boxing.

This concludes with one person who would have ordered all affliction cards now ordering zero.

Good job guys (not!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so, so disapointing!</p>
<p>I love MMA but hate boxing.</p>
<p>This concludes with one person who would have ordered all affliction cards now ordering zero.</p>
<p>Good job guys (not!).</p>
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		<title>By: SOLO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SOLO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about more challenge fights:
boxer vs wrestler,
sumo vs grappling,
aikido vs wrestler etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about more challenge fights:<br />
boxer vs wrestler,<br />
sumo vs grappling,<br />
aikido vs wrestler etc.</p>
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		<title>By: SOLO</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/5594/affliction-and-golden-boy-form-partnership/#comment-63669</link>
		<dc:creator>SOLO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u guys are a bunch of grumpy old men.

any way to give xposure to mma is a plus at this point.

i think the way to go is to make a number of smaller local competitions, ex. for every city, or gym against gym.

also, they should try harder to involve local businesses, ex. gyms, clothing, nutrients, etc.

also we could tie it with strength/ performance competition: lifting, arm-wrestling, pure grappling, kick-boxing. maybe a mini-olimpics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u guys are a bunch of grumpy old men.</p>
<p>any way to give xposure to mma is a plus at this point.</p>
<p>i think the way to go is to make a number of smaller local competitions, ex. for every city, or gym against gym.</p>
<p>also, they should try harder to involve local businesses, ex. gyms, clothing, nutrients, etc.</p>
<p>also we could tie it with strength/ performance competition: lifting, arm-wrestling, pure grappling, kick-boxing. maybe a mini-olimpics?</p>
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		<title>By: ALL_VICTIM</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/5594/affliction-and-golden-boy-form-partnership/#comment-63337</link>
		<dc:creator>ALL_VICTIM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It look like Tito Ortiz Claims To Have Signed With Affliction</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It look like Tito Ortiz Claims To Have Signed With Affliction</p>
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		<title>By: Gonzo</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/5594/affliction-and-golden-boy-form-partnership/#comment-63128</link>
		<dc:creator>Gonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aznstar_inc and KOuch you have made great points. Long term, I don&#039;t know what will happen with Affliction. Short term, any new fans they bring to MMA, will belong to the UFC too.

KOuch, you forgot to mention De la hoya&#039;s Not so #1 dance hit album. 

Dana promised us a Mexico PPV in 2007. I would enjoy watching that live, instead of a UK PPV at 3pm or a free tape delay. We need a more pure Mexican bad-a$$ MMA fighter to come to America. Basically a Mexican born and bred GSP. And when he gets his title shot, hold it Mexico City. Also have Tito and Roger on the card wouldn&#039;t hurt.

UFC 99 Mexico vs USA

What do you think? I&#039;ll pay 45 pesos for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aznstar_inc and KOuch you have made great points. Long term, I don&#8217;t know what will happen with Affliction. Short term, any new fans they bring to MMA, will belong to the UFC too.</p>
<p>KOuch, you forgot to mention De la hoya&#8217;s Not so #1 dance hit album. </p>
<p>Dana promised us a Mexico PPV in 2007. I would enjoy watching that live, instead of a UK PPV at 3pm or a free tape delay. We need a more pure Mexican bad-a$$ MMA fighter to come to America. Basically a Mexican born and bred GSP. And when he gets his title shot, hold it Mexico City. Also have Tito and Roger on the card wouldn&#8217;t hurt.</p>
<p>UFC 99 Mexico vs USA</p>
<p>What do you think? I&#8217;ll pay 45 pesos for that.</p>
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		<title>By: KOuch</title>
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		<dc:creator>KOuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gonzo,
Ragarding the HIspanic/Latino community you used a BIG &quot;IF.&quot; MOst likely MMA will work south of the border but you are right....&quot;IF.&quot;



Older boxing fans are not going to change their opinions on MMA. I&#039;ve gone round for round in debates and conversation online/offline every which way I could. Boxing has been around for over a hundred years and MMA is a barely developed fetus at this point. I feel something being missed with the PPV numbers is the amount of events. Sure, the UFC does not get all the big PPV buys in comparison to boxing but the UFC does deliver great fight cards every month....sometimes twice....and they have a great reality competition show that shows fighters working their way up in the promotion. Far better than The Contender in ratings. Boxing has one or two decent fights a year and people still do not know who Kelly Pavlik is. For those of you who don&#039;t, he is the USA&#039;s greatest boxer at the moment. Pacquio is without a doubt or argument a badass dude. De La Hoya on the other hand is trying to make his last bit of moey before retirement, moving onto f-ing Affliction over and attempting an assualt on MMA. Seriously, I am waiting to hear a dumb ass remark from De La Hoya that flips the F out of MMA fans. De La Hoya is a homo. Boring to watch and lady like. In my opinion, it is pathetic that this is the best the world of boxing could present and this fight says a WHOLE lot about the current state of boxing. I think I will be attending a SJ Sharks game that evening instead of sitting bored watcing two men dance. Nothing against Paq......De La Hoya is my problem. This match up is worse than Tito vs Ken 3 in my opinion. I don&#039;t want to talk boxing though. Just making a comparison. I&#039;d rather watch mediocre MMA fight cards every month than a hyped up boxing card that fails miserably and bores me once or twice a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonzo,<br />
Ragarding the HIspanic/Latino community you used a BIG &#8220;IF.&#8221; MOst likely MMA will work south of the border but you are right&#8230;.&#8221;IF.&#8221;</p>
<p>Older boxing fans are not going to change their opinions on MMA. I&#8217;ve gone round for round in debates and conversation online/offline every which way I could. Boxing has been around for over a hundred years and MMA is a barely developed fetus at this point. I feel something being missed with the PPV numbers is the amount of events. Sure, the UFC does not get all the big PPV buys in comparison to boxing but the UFC does deliver great fight cards every month&#8230;.sometimes twice&#8230;.and they have a great reality competition show that shows fighters working their way up in the promotion. Far better than The Contender in ratings. Boxing has one or two decent fights a year and people still do not know who Kelly Pavlik is. For those of you who don&#8217;t, he is the USA&#8217;s greatest boxer at the moment. Pacquio is without a doubt or argument a badass dude. De La Hoya on the other hand is trying to make his last bit of moey before retirement, moving onto f-ing Affliction over and attempting an assualt on MMA. Seriously, I am waiting to hear a dumb ass remark from De La Hoya that flips the F out of MMA fans. De La Hoya is a homo. Boring to watch and lady like. In my opinion, it is pathetic that this is the best the world of boxing could present and this fight says a WHOLE lot about the current state of boxing. I think I will be attending a SJ Sharks game that evening instead of sitting bored watcing two men dance. Nothing against Paq&#8230;&#8230;De La Hoya is my problem. This match up is worse than Tito vs Ken 3 in my opinion. I don&#8217;t want to talk boxing though. Just making a comparison. I&#8217;d rather watch mediocre MMA fight cards every month than a hyped up boxing card that fails miserably and bores me once or twice a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Dietrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Competition in the Business sense that is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Competition in the Business sense that is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dietrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the hardcore boxing fans are already here. Ring and other magazines have been running competition stories for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the hardcore boxing fans are already here. Ring and other magazines have been running competition stories for years.</p>
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		<title>By: aznstar_inc</title>
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		<dc:creator>aznstar_inc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gonzo while I agree that this a good way to reach a different segment of fans I do have to say that I don&#039;t believe it will work. Their isn&#039;t a really large hardcore boxing segment anymore under the age of 40. And basicly if your 40 or over you aren&#039;t gonna learn to like something new. MMA owns the 18 to 25 demo, so the fan base is set to grow anyway. My issue with this is affliction has yet to prove itself as even a credible MMA show yet, so going out and trying to expand its audience that they don&#039;t really have is almost laughable. Also HBO declining to put dre and barnet on the october boxing card is a sign about what hardcore boxing fans think of this sport.

As for ppv buys Yes, Floyd did great in those 2 fights. But last week inside MMA had the figures for the year in total PPV buy&#039;s for MMA, wrestling, and boxing as a whole. MMA was way ahead with 3 mil total wrestling had 2 mil and boxing had a mil. So once again the market is in love with MMA, and adding 25 to 30K buys of possible boxing fans won&#039;t mean much. affliction just went about this business the wrong way and continue to dig a hole they won&#039;t get out of.

In regards to the hispanic market, boxing is something that is a cultural thing. You can&#039;t just change that with a few PPV&#039;s. if MMA really wants to reach the latino market they need a real latino fighter to market to them. No Roger Huerta will not sell, he&#039;s to american to be embraced by mexico (just like Oscar). Hell I have a 17 year old kid that works for me 6 ft 155lbs. He&#039;s mexican and has a ameture boxing record of 6 and 2. I&#039;ve been trying to sell him on learning MMA at this local gym, but he&#039;s not really into it cause he was raised to appreciate it. There is a reason Bisping is on every UK card and a reason they never go to canada without GSP or atleast a few canadian born fighters on the card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonzo while I agree that this a good way to reach a different segment of fans I do have to say that I don&#8217;t believe it will work. Their isn&#8217;t a really large hardcore boxing segment anymore under the age of 40. And basicly if your 40 or over you aren&#8217;t gonna learn to like something new. MMA owns the 18 to 25 demo, so the fan base is set to grow anyway. My issue with this is affliction has yet to prove itself as even a credible MMA show yet, so going out and trying to expand its audience that they don&#8217;t really have is almost laughable. Also HBO declining to put dre and barnet on the october boxing card is a sign about what hardcore boxing fans think of this sport.</p>
<p>As for ppv buys Yes, Floyd did great in those 2 fights. But last week inside MMA had the figures for the year in total PPV buy&#8217;s for MMA, wrestling, and boxing as a whole. MMA was way ahead with 3 mil total wrestling had 2 mil and boxing had a mil. So once again the market is in love with MMA, and adding 25 to 30K buys of possible boxing fans won&#8217;t mean much. affliction just went about this business the wrong way and continue to dig a hole they won&#8217;t get out of.</p>
<p>In regards to the hispanic market, boxing is something that is a cultural thing. You can&#8217;t just change that with a few PPV&#8217;s. if MMA really wants to reach the latino market they need a real latino fighter to market to them. No Roger Huerta will not sell, he&#8217;s to american to be embraced by mexico (just like Oscar). Hell I have a 17 year old kid that works for me 6 ft 155lbs. He&#8217;s mexican and has a ameture boxing record of 6 and 2. I&#8217;ve been trying to sell him on learning MMA at this local gym, but he&#8217;s not really into it cause he was raised to appreciate it. There is a reason Bisping is on every UK card and a reason they never go to canada without GSP or atleast a few canadian born fighters on the card.</p>
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