Affliction Reschedules October 11th Las Vegas Event to January 17th in Anaheim, California
Affliction has rescheduled it’s October 11th event, “Day of Reckoning”, which was scheduled for the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas. The event, which was to feature a heavyweight main event clash between Andrei Arlovski and Josh Barnett, has been rescheduled for January 17th at the Honda Center in Anaheim, California.
Affliction promoter Roy Englebrecht informed the Nevada State Athletic Commission that they were moving the event to early-2009 earlier today.
Affliction Vice President Tom Atencio has informed MMA Weekly that an announcement will be made about the company’s future and the rescheduling of the October event at Saturday’s boxing event in Las Vegas featuring Joel Casamayor vs. Juan Manuel Marquez
Last week Atencio told MMA Weekly that the UFC was “messing with [Affliction] every step of the way” in promoting a show in Las Vegas, though no concrete details on the allegations have since emerged.
At this time it is unknown if the current card will remain intact for the new date or if adjustments will be made including the possible addition of Fedor Emelianenko to the lineup.
The “Day of Reckoning” main card was to air on pay-per-view with several preliminary bouts airing live on HDNet.
Affliction’s first event, “Banned”, also took place at the Honda Center in Anaheim on July 19th, drawing a total attendance of 14,832 (11,242 paid) for a live gate of $2,085,510. Pay-per-view buys for the event reportedly exceeded 100,000.
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Oh dear it looks like Affliction is going the way the WFA and others.
Obviously the Ticket sales were poor for them to pull out so close to the event and must be waiting for Fedor to sell tickets.
THERE GONNA THROW FEDOR ON THE CARD GUARENTEE
MMA fans have spoken, and Affliction has listened. I believe the main event wasn’t strong enough. I paid for BANNED, but I had no intention to pay for this one. If Fedor is in it, I will.
I would like to see a tournament set up for the rest of the WAMMA belts and invite fighters from all promotions.
“A boy can dream, can’t he?”
Scrap the Arlovski-Barnett fight. IT will likely be Arlovski-Fedor.
haha go Dana…tell them B*tches theres only one sheriff in the town of Vegas and thats the UFC…
you guys hear Fedor is negotiations with the ufc to fight couture after lesnar….?? cuz I did…
I was looking forward to the Arlovski-Barnett fight, but if they go ahead and put Arlovski in against Fedor, all the better. That was the fight I was more interested in anyway.
I hate to see Afflicition struggling. That’ll mean less fights to see, less fighters getting a shot and the UFC being able to do whatever they want to do when ever they want to do it. Too much power for one promotion. No competition hurts the consumer, but what are we gonna do? We can’t save the world…
Afflicition should have started off slower with less big names and work their way up, but they didn’t do that and look at them now.
dolfanG…this is great for the sport of mma…all proffessional sports only have one promotion…You get to see the best fights this way…Once affliction dies and UFC has all the fighters, every ppv card will be stacked..kinda like what were starting to see lately…its awesome cuz then you really see how skilled the fighters are…plus affliction did a bad job of presenting the sport…reminded me too much of wrestling…the ufc has major sponsorships and doing a great job of getting mma out to the average sports fan!!
the major announcement is…..THEY’RE SHUTTING DOWN BECAUSE FEDOR HAS JUST SIGNED WITH THE UFC!!!
not really, but that would be hilarious.
Am i seeing the next IFL? Ticket sales according to sources are too slow and if it reached October, still cant reach the required sales that they are looking. UFC might be messing with them but one factor also is that the card that they put up is not that attractive. Yes the main card are respectable fighters. the reason they had a sell out Banned its because they have Fedor.
I might look at Wikipedia for MMA promotions under defunct category in 2-3 mos
They have to put Fedor again in the card. Scrap Barnett Arlovski, then let Fedor-Barnett or Fedor-Arlovski the main card
Barnet has not fought Fedor in Pride and this will be an interesting match up. Both good in striking and on the ground. It was suggested before that when Fedor fought Hong Man Choi, many MMA observers wondered why didnt Fedor fought Barnett instead to solidify his No.1 P4P legacy.
Arlovski can also be a good fight, they are both coming from Sambo background. Same expertise and this would be an interesting match up aswell.
I know Fedor wants to avenge his brother loss to Barnett and i think its about time for them to fight.
Fedor needs to fight high level fighters and he already did it against Tim Sylvia and he needs to fight Barnett and for Affliction to survive they need Fedor as their main card.
No one will buy PPV if theres no Fedor. They survive in their first show because of Fedor and theyll need it to continue. Fedor aswell needs to continue to fight top fighters
arvloski is a badass but it kind of goes up and down if you know what i mean like hell go badass and knock em down but sometimes hell just let them up but man does he have fangs i think those are awesome!
sounds like things arnt good for Affliction …
Their first mistake was trying to go where the UFC kinda makes their home at . what about having the card in Atlantic City instead ? Why does everyone now think vega is the only big fight town to go ……. try something new .
The second was giving WAY to much money to the fighters to begin with . This was supposed to help out the guys who didnt want to be under UFC rule yet still be able to put on a show .Without a stable org t compete in they now will have to suck it up and take what they get . Anyone make 10 grand at the “banned” card ? No likely .
Its kinda sad but what can you do ? if you make one mistake, thats it !!! no more choices in who is fighting who .it’ll be the UFC show and nothing else. I love the UFC dont get me wrong , they put out a stellar show MOST of the time . I was just hoping for some competition so we can sit back and say hmm who’s better ,is it the UFC guy or the (fill in the blank) guy . Like when PRIDE was around ya know?
Cole Miller,
I respect what you say, but I disagree with you. I don’t think it’s healthy for MMA with one company holding all the cards. I would rather be able to see a card with less stars on it, like the WEC used to be, than not see any fights at all. I think it would be great if I had a choice of who I wanted to see. It would be great if there was a fight card going on twice a month, but that won’t happen if one company rules. We’ll see what they want to offer, when they decide to offer something. We saw the UFC fight card live on TV when Silva scared Irvin to death because the UFC was trying to put pressure on Affliction. Did anybody like the Silva/Irvin fight? I didn’t. It was thrown together in a hurry just to screw with Affliction. If they had actually planned something, maybe we could have seen Anderson Silva fight somebody that matters. But we got to see a fight that didn’t matter because the UFC didn’t want to take a chance on Silva fighting somebody that could fight back and maybe getting him hurt. It sucks. That’s my opinion and that’s all it is and only worth the pixels it’s presented with.
This card is going down fast
I hope Affliction 3 is better, Come Affliction you can do it
OK so we could have a better card than anything ufc puts on :
Fedor vs Barnett
AA vs Crocop
Lebanner vs. Timmeh
Gorilla head vs. babulu
lil nog vs. janitor
Sweet!
Its better to have a healthy competition but what if the competition cant cope up with the Big Boys…
I agree with Cole Miller. I have stated many times that the UFC should be the Big show of MMA. Then use smaller org’s like the WEC as a minor league system. That way you can have spike televise more fight night style shows with up and comers. While stacking PPV’s more. So guys like Damien Maia and Anthony Johnson can get better name recognition. Along with collecting a check more than 2 times a year. so I don’t see why its such a terrible thing.
nobody likes a monopoly…
So nobody likes the MLB, NFL, or NBA?
MLB has a minor league system, NFL and NBA have college. What does MMA have? If UFC is only show around, then only a few hundred people in the world can be in it.
Does not sound right? Then every MMA gym in the country dhould close down. And tell the TapouT crew to stop looking for fighters. Leave that to Dana.
I mention having 2 or 3 minor league stlye org that send the best to the UFC. Having the WEC and maybe one more org acting as the US farm system. Creating a Europe MMA org and some kind of org in asia. Now you have maybe 4 different org under the UFC umbrella that put on events. Make all of those free to the public, so casual fans can watch and get to know these guys. And when guys like Anderson Silva run through a division, you have a grand prix between the 4 orgs to find a challeneger for the belt. if the UFC can get the bankroll to fund a huge venture like this, it would put MMA in the big leagues with Soccer or football.
FREE ?!?! from the UFC ? hahahahahahahahhaahhahaaahhaahahahaahahahha..
sorry … Dana wont give anything away if he’s the only show in town .The only reason we see half as$ed SPIKETV fight-nights is because the competition annoys him .
aznstar_inc
I agree with your concept completely. My thing is I don’t want to see other promotions like Affliction or Elite close down completely. They start out too big. They can’t afford their overhead and bank on PPV buys. When they don’t do well in PPV, they get so far behind they have to shut down completely. When that happens, we lose. I don’t care if there are more than one big league MMA promotions, but we need more than just the UFC and then the local shows. We need those mid-level shows. I don’t know what Affliction was thinking by signing such big names that will cost so much when they have so few fighters… What was the plan?… the same heavyweights fight each other over and over? They tried to start out to big and that’s the problem.
NFL MLB NBA… There are other leagues too. Football would be the exception unless you consider college football which basically is the minor league system for the NFL. These are the major leagues, but do I need to reminds you how they got to where they are? Do you remember the AFL? Baseball used to have 2 leagues NL and AL. Years ago they started The World Series and they’ve done real well with that. And then there was the ABA. How do you like those leagues now? There used to be more than one and they merged to make a better product. Somday somebody will start another league and it’ll challenge on of these. That’s how to keep the product strong. It’s worked for the guys you mentioned, it should work for MMA as well.
Of course… I could be wrong…
remember… you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig…
I have no idea what the heck that’s supposed to mean…
Why does everyone just assume Dana is such a bad guy? And he’s only in it for him. He is the only one trying to legalize this sport in all 50 states and in Canada, which means millions of dollars spent on lawyers to lobby those states. And to date Dana has had 15 fight nights, so its not like everything is PPV. And one of the reason FN’s aren’t more frequent is cause you have a pool of 250 fighters split between 5 divisons and 10 cards per PPV that need to be filled. When you factor in rest and injuries its hard to make a quality card everytime. But when you have 400 fighters you can provide better free cards for people. Once again Dana isn’t stupid, he knows (what affliction doesn’t) that the young fighters are the future. You can’t hold on to old names and hope the next Anderson falls in your lap. You need to develop and market these guys.
DolfanG. The thing is Boxing has that model already. HBO & Showtime have different PPV’s. There are different belts. And all that does is water down the product. And its kind of happening now with Fedor. People want to see him fight Couture but that may never happen. Its why it took so long to see Wanderlei Chuck. Can you imagine had Pride folded sooner a both of those guys in their prime fighting for 5 rounds? That would’ve been great. That’s why IMO having a bunch of fighter isn different org’s inst good. Luckily we currently have all the great fighters in the UFC. And like I said if you had 4 or so mid level org’s funded by the UFC on cable TV giving air time to up and comers you have a win win. More MMA with the production value of the UFC along with the funding of the UFC.
I hear ya… but if Pride did fold earleir and Chuck and Silva did fight earlier, what then? That was a fight people wanted to see for years… How did it do on PPV? It’s OK to keep people wanting more. In all the years in between those guys kept fighting and we got to see a ton of great fights. What I don’t want to see is the Affliction model. Too few fighters to do anything with. If there was only one promotion, what would it be like? Huge with hundreds of fighters? Or small with tens of fighters all in the elite class? I know… I might be exaggerating just a shade to make a point, but the simple fact is without competition the UFC has no reason to do anything they aren’t otherwise motivated to do. Right now they’re doing what they’re doing to stay on top. If there was no competition for them, what would they do? WE don’t know, but with competition they have to try to be the best.
I don’t know everything… I just know that competition makes people better and companies better. Having only one top promotion would be like having Anderson Silva stand in the octagon by himself for 25 minutes because he has no competition. How long would he stay in tip top shape? Companies need that same motovation to strive to be the best they can be… on the other hand… Matybe you’re completely right and I’m completely wrong… I’m no genius.
Call me impatient but I’ve never been one for delayed gratification. I don’t live my life in the what if’s game. And would much rather get what I want instead of just talking about it.
And because the MMA business is based off of PPV buys, I don’t see any reason the UFC (with no comp) would ever let up.
But in regard to affliction I agree 100%. I feel they tried to get a quick pay day by overpaying older name fighters hoping MMA fans would care. If they were in it for the long haul they would have invested in young fighters. If I were starting up I would make friends with all the trainning camps, Greg Jackson, ATT, Extreme Couture. I would sell these young guys on a company that is gonna make them the stars right away, instead of having to wait in line in the stacked UFC. Hell I might even cut a deal to share revenue with certain high end schools if they give my company 1st crack at up and cming stars. Production value is also key, elite XC and Affliction look like bad music video’s mixed with the WWE. the strippers…I mean dancer they have or forcing us to listen to Mega Death all night aren’t gonna get the company to the top. This is about the fighters, more money need to be spent on cameras and producers. But that’s just what I would do if I had a bank roll big enough.
And this is a discussion so I don’t see anyone being right or wrong. Only time will tell.
They are done. Affliction should of known you cant put a show on in the UFC’s home turf. Not even Gary Shaw had the stones to do something like that. Fedor vs Couture UFC 100!!!!!!!
When the Affliction card was first released I looked at it and thought, “Wow, Affliction is going be be some good competition for the UFC.” They were able to get all these fighters that were big names. I was excited to see who else they could bring in. It turns out that they are a one trick pony, and use Fedor as their freak show. I seriously considered buying the Affliction Banned PPV, but stuck with the Fight Night and watched MMALinker.com for the Fedor match. Even though AA vs Barnett would be a good match, I really didn’t plan on getting this one.
It looks like they need Fedor to headline in order to sell out. Or they could do what the Elite XC is doing, using hometown heros to headline or co-headline. Nick Diaz in Stockton, CA was huge for the fans. UFC had Lesnar in Minnesota, GSP in Canada, Bisping in the UK. Thet might help them sell more that 800 tickets.
I doubt the UFC loses money on a fight night. They could add on more FN’s for more oppoturnities for more fighters. They still get paid for commercials, sponsers, and selling tickets.
Also, don’t forget the Banned PPV was originally going to be in Dallas(I know because I planned on going) but was later moved to SoCal.
Would the UFC ever re-open the WEC and PRIDE? WEC could be the minors in the US, and PRIDE could be the minors in Japan. Especially PRIDE, people hear that name and drool. I was excited when the UFC bought PRIDE because I thought we would see fighters move from ring to cage, and cage to ring to see who was the best of the best. But all they did was get most of the big name stars in the UFC, and dump a bunch of Japan fighters.
Guys,
Affliction arn’t going to bomb, they are pulling it due to the UFC being the big dog in Vegas and Dana meesing them up promoting it, however they are also pulling it as I reckon they are going to announce something with Oscar Del La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions.
So they could well be getting some major promotional backing through them, this will open the promotional channels in Vegas as the Golden boy would be able to cut through any ****e the UFC try to pull.
Only an opinion but I reckon Affliction will be around for a while yet!.
Big Stan,
The LAST THING MMA needs is BOXING as a “major promotional backing.” BOXING promotions are BAD for MMA. Affliction way of running business has proven to not be faulty. Remember, Affliction put themselves $7million in the hole and are basically a ONE MAN (Fedor) promotion. How can Golden Boy productions do anything to the UFC? WTF does anyone affiliated with Golden Boy productions know about the business of MMA? Only my opinion but Affliction will go under within 2 1/2 years unless there is amjor change in their roster and presetation…..In other words, they need a complete business 360 right now.
Excuse me:
Afflictions way of business has proven TO BE FAULTY!
sorry.
KOuch I think you give affliction way to much credit. They are gonna take a bath this next PPV, even though Fedor is scheduled to be on the new January card. They will be going up against a boxing PPV and I’m sure Dana will have the NYE show free on spike or something during the same time. Their numbers will be less than 100,000 buys. MMA fans have seen the lack of depth and interesting fighters. I mean really is anyone gonna spend $40 to watch Fedor fight some random nobody? You might as well watch a old Pride fight on DVD for $19.99 cause either way you know who’s gonna win. Its a flawed company and I think its over by this time next year.
Will be watching a WEC event on Tivo or an old UFC dvd whenever this is aired…
Competition is not only good for the fans, it’s good for the fighters as well. Other shows being put on will force the UFC to have bigger main events. It also gives fighters more leverage. Dana and his great big ego will be forced to treat the fighters well to keep them from leaving. Not only that. The fighters deserve to be able to fight outside their promotion to make more $ and test themselves against the best in the world. Everyone should support rival promotions to support the fighters and the sport as a whole.
Brandon
Well said Brandon! You are right on the money. Competition brings out the best in atheletes. It also brings out the best in business. No competition is also boring. I really don’t understand why some guys are so critical of the lack of competition in Affliction or other promotions and at the same time don’t want any competition for the UFC. It’s real curious to me…
Fans didn’t like the first one because it was a poor quality product. Charity shouldn’t have a $50 price tag. Fans helped carry the UFC through the lean years why should they be asked to carry other organizations that are trying to do Zuffa in?
I’ll give it you the Affliction show left a lot to be desired but I felt that watching great heavyweights like Fedor, Arlovski, and Barnett was worth the price of admission. Cut them a little slack. It was their 1st show. If they are around awhile they’ll get better.