UFC 88 “Breakthrough” Live Results and Coverage
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In the main event former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell returned to the octagon to earn a shot at the 205-pound belt currently held by Forrest Griffin against Rashad Evans, the undefeated winner of The Ultimate Fighter 2 who looked to take out the promotion’s former light heavyweight king for his own potential shot at glory.
In other main card bouts former UFC middleweight champion Rich Franklin returned to the 205-pound light heavyweight division to meet Matt Hamill, former PRIDE dual champion Dan Henderson took on Rousimar Palhares, middleweights Martin Kampmann and Nate Marquardt clashed to further climb the middleweight ladded, and Dong Hyun Kim looked to keep his undefeated record intact against Matt Brown.
The UFC 88 preliminary card featured Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino, Tim Boetsch vs. Mike Patt, Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan, and Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald.
UFC 88 “Breakthrough” took place on Saturday, September 6th, at the Philips Arena in Atlanta, Georgia and aired live on pay-per-view.
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QUICK RESULTS
- Rashad Evans def. Chuck Liddell via KO - Round 2, 1:51
- Rich Franklin def. Matt Hamill via TKO - Round 3, 0:39
- Dan Henderson def. Rousimar Palhares via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
- Nate Marquardt def. Martin Kampmann via TKO - Round 1, 1:22
- Dong Hyun Kim def. Matt Brown via split decision (29-28, 28-29, 29-28)
- Kurt Pellegrino def. Thiago Tavares via unanimous decision (29-27, 29-27, 29-28)
- Tim Boetsch def. Mike Patt via TKO - Round 1, 2:03
- Jason MacDonald def. Jason Lambert via submission (rear naked choke) - Round 2, 1:20
- Ryo Chonan def. Roan Carneiro via split decision (29-28, 29-28, 28-29)
RESULTS
CHUCK LIDDELL VS. RASHAD EVANS
In tonight’s UFC 88 main event former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell looks to knock off the undefeated winner of The Ultimate Fighter 2 Rashad Evans and earn a shot at the 205-pound title. Liddell has a 3-inch height and one-inch reach advantage over Evans. Rashad enters the fight undefeated with a 16-0-1 record while Liddell is 21-5 in his career.
ROUND 1 — They touch gloves and circle. Liddell unleashes a combo and continues to circle Evans looking for openings. Evans connects with a right and Liddell fires back with a big right. Body kick by Evans. Evans avoids a big right. Jab by Rashad followed by a leg kick. Evans continues to change stances but Liddell is stalking and lands a jab as we enter the final minute of the opening round. Overhand by Liddell is countered by a leg kick. Evans opens up a cut under Liddell’s right eye. Liddell lands some punches late and just misses with a last-second kick. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Liddell.
ROUND 2 –Liddell connects with a right and Evans counters with a left. Another right by Liddell, who keeps Evans near the fence. Left hook by Evans. Both fighters throw big punches and Liddell just misses with an uppercut while Evans knocks Liddell out cold with an overhand.
Rashad Evans def. Chuck Liddell via KO - Round 2, 1:51
RICH FRANKLIN VS. MATT HAMILL
In the co-main event of the evening former UFC middleweight champion Rich Franklin moves up to the 205-pound light heavyweight division to take on wrestler Matt Hamill in a clash of styles. The height and reach are identical in this matchup, though Franklin holds a distinct experience advantage with a 25-3 record compared to Hamill’s 6-1 mark.
ROUND 1 — Hamill and Franklin touch gloves and we’re underway. They circle and Franklin opens with a leg kick. Another leg kick by Franklin followed by another. Hamill closes and throws a knee but Franklin counters with a punch. Right by Hamill followed by a kick to the body by Franklin. Another exchange punctuated by a body kick by Franklin. Leg kick from Franklin followed by a body shot. Hamill opens a cut up above Franklin’s right eye but Franklin continues to punish Hamill with leg kicks. We have yet to see Hamill go for a takedown as Franklin picks him apart on the feet. Hamill finally secures a takedown in the final minute but Franklin works for an armbar on the ground before returning to his feet and opening a cut above Hamill’s eye with a knee just before the end of the first round. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Franklin.
ROUND 2 — A less tentative start to the second as Franklin quickly fires a good kick that Hamill catches but releases. Good combination by Franklin connects but time is called to check the cut near Franklin’s eye. It’s a nasty gash but the doctor okays him to continue. Another combination by Franklin includes a kick to the body. Hamill counters but Franklin continues to land hard body kicks and inside leg kicks. One kick hit Hamill in the groin and we take a brief hiatus as Hamill recovers before we get back underway. Another good combination by Franklin. Hamill shoots in and tries for a takedown but Franklin keeps the fight on their feet. Pair of good lefts by Hamill but Franklin fires back with another kick to the body. Both fighter throw combos. Leg and body kicks from Franklin as we approach the final minute of the round. Hamill grabs a kick but Franklin escapes and connects with punches. Franklin throws another kick and it’s again caught by Hamill but he again keeps the fight standing where he’s picking Hamill apart. The second round comes to an end with Franklin dominating the standup and Hamill doing little to get Franklin to the ground. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Franklin.
ROUND 3 — Franklin has cuts in the corners of both eyes but they’re not bleeding and shouldn’t a factor in this one. Body kick by Franklin sets up a right. Knee to the body by Franklin. Franklin drops Hamill to the canvas with a kick to the ribs and the fight is immediately halted by the referee and Hamill taps.
Rich Franklin def. Matt Hamill via TKO - Round 3, 0:39
DAN HENDERSON VS. ROUSIMAR PALHARES
Henderson is 10 years older than Palhares but holds a three-inch height and reach advantage over his opponent. Palhares, a jiu jitsu fighters, enters with just a single loss to accompany his 17 professional victories. Henderson, a wrestler, has 22 wins on his record along with 7 defeats.
ROUND 1 — The fighters size one another up as there’s little action in the opening seconds. Palhares shoots in and Henderson hits him with a big right and tries to finish him off but Palhares recovers and looks for submissions so Henderson backs away and Palhares gets back to his feet. Another takedown attempt by Palhares is stuffed. Palhares connects with a body kick but Henderson sends Palhares to the mat with another big right. Henderson defends another attempted takedown. Slow kick to the body by Palhares is blocked. Another right by Henderson. A barrage of rights by Henderson floors Palhares and Henderson attempts to finish the fight but he’s hesitant to enter his guard and they return to their feet. Palhares connects with several wild kicks before both fighters recover and trade. Palhares finally gets Henderson to the ground and he lands in side control but Henderson regains half guard and neutralizes Palhares. Palhares secures a knee bar late but the round concludes. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Henderson.
ROUND 2 –Another tentative opening sees both fighters circle before Henderson unloads another big right. Palhares closes but Henderson tosses him to the ground and avoids. Palhares goes for the takedown and slams Henderson to the canvas. Both fighters are active on the ground as Henderson works elbows and Palhares looks for submissions. Palhares works a heel hook and kneebar but Henderson escapes to his feet and Palhares follows. Palhares shoots but Henderson sprawls and secures a choke. Palhares rolls out and they both get back to their feet. Another right by Henderson. Henderson stuffs a takedown attempt and works from Palhares’ guard. Henderson uses his wrestling to neutralize Palhares from the top. Elbows by Henderson. Referee Herb Dean stands the fighters up and they resume. Another right by Henderson finds its mark. The final seconds of the round tick away as both fighters fire kicks to close out the frame. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Palhares.
ROUND 3 –Palhares lands a couple solid kicks to open the final round and Henderson is patient and looks for an opening. Another kick by Palhares is blocked. Jab by Henderson. Palhares looks for a takedown but Henderson sprawls and tags Palhares for the effort. A pair of rights by Henderson. Henderson uses his reach advantage to avoid Palhares’ punches and looks to land punches of his own. Henderson connects with a one-two combo. Henderson connects with more punches then Palhares tries for another takedown but Henderson gets back to his feet. Palhares secures a leg but Henderson escapes yet again. Henderson pours it on late with a big right and some ground and pound to close out the bout. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Henderson and the fight 29-28 Henderson.
Dan Henderson def. Rousimar Palhares via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
MARTIN KAMPMANN VS. NATE MARQUARDT
ROUND 1 –Both fighters fire punches and kicks early but nothing connects. Marquardt hurts Kampann with a kick then tags him with a combo. Kampmann survives briefly but Marquardt pours it on and finishes Kampann off with a flurry of punches that force the referee to step in and stop the bout.
Nate Marquardt def. Martin Kampmann via TKO - Round 1, 1:22
DONG HYUN KIM VS. MATT BROWN
Brown enters to “The Devil Went Down To Georgia” while Kim plays to the crowd as just the second South Korean to fight in the UFC. Brown, 10-6, is an even 6′ 0″ tall and fights out of Cincinnati while “Stun Gun” is undefeated at 10-0-1 with a slight, one-inch reach advantage over Brown.
ROUND 1 — They touch gloves and Brown looks very aggressive. Kim tags him with a left than takes Brown to the ground. Brown tries to return to his feet but gives up his back. Kim tries to capitalize but Brown gets back to his feet. Kim again takes his back and locks in a deep rear naked choke but Brown narrowly escapes. Kim gets his back again but Brown defends and gets into Kim’s guard on the ground. Both fighters return to their feet and they separate. Good body punch by Brown is countered by a head kick from Kim. Brown ducks a punch and connects with a punch to the body. Spinning backfist by Brown misses. Brown avoids a takedown attempt and delivers a good knee to the body as they clinch against the fence. Kim scores a trip takedown but Brown ends up on top and locks in a choke. Kim escapes and immediately takes Brown’s back yet again. Brown gets back on his feet with Kim on his back as the round comes to a close. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Kim.
ROUND 2 –Another touch of the gloves and Brown fires kicks. They trade punches. Brown connects with a solid shot to the body. Brown avoids another takedown then puts Kim onto the ground but he’s quickly back on his feet. Brown is all over Kim with punches and kicks in the opening minute of the round but Kim grabs a leg and the fighters briefly go to the ground. Back on their feet they clinch against the cage and Brown works strikes to Kim’s body. Brown takes Kim to the ground and works from his guard then backs away and works power punches from his feet to the downed Kim. Brown lets Kim return to his feet and immediately lands a knee to the body before they clinch. More shots to the body by Brown before they separate and Brown lands a hard combo. Brown is the fresher fighter in the final seconds of the round and dodges a punch then takes Kim to the ground. Brown briefly works for an arm triangle on the ground then throws ground and pound on Kim for the final seconds. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Brown.
ROUND 3 –Brown is aggressive and quickly throws a kick and more shots to the body. They stop the fight to a couple moments as Brown forgot his mouthpiece but we’re quickly back underway. Kim tries to catch a kick from Brown but he escapes. Superman punch by Brown misses and Kim shoots in and scores a takedown. Kim is right into side control and tries to mount Brown but Brown escapes back onto his feet and works more knees to the body of Kim. They clinch against the cage and Brown keeps the fight on their feet despite takedown attempts by Kim. Kim connects with a big left hook then goes and tries for a takedown but a whizzer by Brown keeps the fight on the feet. Kim eventually succeeds in getting Brown to the mat and works from his opponent’s guard. Brown keeps him from posturing up or passing and they exchange elbows on the ground. Kim has opened a cut on Brown’s cheek but it shouldn’t be an issue as the final seconds tick away. More elbows from the top by Kim in the closing seconds of the fight. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Kim and the fight 29-28 Kim.
Dong Hyun Kim def. Matt Brown via split decision (29-28, 28-29, 29-28)
KURT PELLEGRINO VS. THIAGO TAVARES
ROUND 1 — Pellegrino drops Tavares to the canvas in the opening seconds but Tavares narrowly survives and returns to his feet. Pellegrino lands another big punch that sends Tavares to the ground and Pellegrino follows. Pellegrino mounts Tavares and drops shots from the top but Tavares survives and gets back into half guard. Tavares works back to his feet but Pellegrino gets him back to the ground before the round ends. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-8 Pellegrino.
ROUND 2 — Tavares and Pellegrino exchange punches early then Tavares accidentally pokes Pellegrino in the eye and they stop the fight to allow time to recover. They resume and continue to exchange with Pellegrino getting the better of the standup. Tavares looks for takedowns, eventually putting Pellegrino on the mat and working ground and pound before Pellegrino secures and armbar. Tavares appears to tap but he eventually escapes and the fight continues. Tavares closes out the round with more ground and pound. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Tavares.
ROUND 3 — Tavares shoots early for a takedown but Pellegrino temporarily locks in a guillotine before forcing Tavares to the ground. They return to their feet and Tavares tosses Pellegrino but it’s reversed nicely by Pellegrino. They tussle for position on the ground for the remainder of the fight. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Pellegrino and the fight 29-27 Pellegrino.
Kurt Pellegrino def. Thiago Tavares via unanimous decision (29-27, 29-27, 29-28)
TIM BOETSCH VS. MIKE PATT
ROUND 1 — Both fighters throw wild punches early but nothing finds its mark. Boetsch lands a stiff jab and Patt shoots for a takedown. Boetsch dodges then locks up with Patt. They separate and both fighters throw more punches. Boetsch drops Patt to the canvas with a big right and finishes him off with more punches on the ground that force the referee to intervene.
Tim Boetsch def. Mike Matt via TKO - Round 1, 2:03
JASON LAMBERT VS. JASON MACDONALD
ROUND 1 –MacDonald connects with punches early than takes Lambert to the ground. Lambert briefly has a guillotine choke but MacDonald escapes and works ground and pound from Lambert’s guard. MacDonald continues to connect with a mix of strikes from the top. Lambert secures a deep guillotine late in the round but MacDonald holds on. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 MacDonald.
ROUND 2 — MacDonald and Lambert exchange big punches to open the second then MacDonald again takes Lambert to the ground. MacDonald moves to mount and Lambert gives up his back. MacDonald gets a body triangle then secures a rear naked choke that forces Lambert to tap out at 1:20 of the second.
Jason MacDonald def. Jason Lambert via submission (rear naked choke) - Round 2, 1:20
ROAN CARNEIRO VS. RYO CHONAN
ROUND 1 — Carneiro tries to take Chonan down early but he sprawls and avoids the takedown. Carneiro pulls guard and they exchange on the ground. Carneiro tries for a triangle then transitions to an omoplata but Chonan escapes. Carneiro passes to side control and works ground and pound before Chonan gets back to his feet. They trade punches before the opening round comes to an end. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Carneiro.
ROUND 2 — The fighters trade shots then Carneiro trips to the canvas and Chonan moves into his guard. Chonan works ground and pound from the top and presses his opponent against the cage but Carneiro limits the damage as Chonan holds on to the position for the majority of the frame. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Chonan.
ROUND 3 — Carneiro shoots in for a takedown but Chonan remains on his feet. Carneiro again pulls guard but quickly tries to return to his feet. Chonan connects with a knee to the body then Carneiro stands back up. Carneiro gets Chonan to the mat and starts to work from his guard. There’s little action on the ground and the fighters eventually return to their feet. Another takedown attempt by Carneiro is stuffed by Chonan, who reverses Carneiro to the mat. Chonan closes out the round with some late punches. MMAFrenzy.com scores the round 10-9 Chonan and the fight 29-28 Chonan.
Ryo Chonan def. Roan Carneiro via split decision (29-28, 29-28, 28-29)
Tags: Chuck Liddell, Dan Henderson, dong hyun kim, Jason Lambert, Jason MacDonald, Kurt Pellegrino, Martin Kampmann, matt brown, Matt Hamill, Mike Patt, Nate Marquardt, Rashad Evans, Rich Franklin, Roan Carneiro, rousimar palhares, Ryo Chonan, Thiago Tavares, tim boetsch
I have to get some popcorn and soft drink and then I’ll be ready…
lol ya this will be good
waited a long time for this going for chuck liddell, rich franklin, dan henderson and they said rich franklin is the best MW fighter except for a.silva so he wants to move up to LHW thats what i would do but i would also would like to see dan henderson vs rich franklin now thats sounds like a good fight to me.
@UFCfan - I’m with you on Liddell, Franklin, and Henderson winning their fights tonight. Less than an hour ’til “kickoff”.
rich in my opinion isnt the best besides silva maybe third best or fourth…i think kampmann could beat him and henderson
im rooting for Evans, hammill, henderson, KAMPMANN, dong hyun kim, boetsch, carnerio, and lambert
Hey guys,
Been awhile
I have Chuck by TKO, Rich by decision, Hendo TKO or KO.
I am looking forward to the fights, and to be honest I wouldn’t be upset at all if Hamill beat Rich.
ya i like this card but dont at the same time because i like alot of these fighters and dont want them to lose…..i like hammill and franklin and liddell and evans
I not yet sold on Evans. If he beats Chuck then he deserves a shot at Forrest.
ya of course who ever wins should get title chance.
im telling everyone i have a feeling that evans is gonna pull something off………greg jackson has something up his sleeves for liddell
hey doesn anyone know the website to go to to watch this fights the day after the ufc PPV i use to go there alot but i cant remember what the website is called i went there to see silva vs irvin and forrest vs rampage
i couldnt watch it live on tv because thunderstorm took my power out right during fight..
but anyway if you could tell me that website it would be very helpful I remember is that its kind of all mixedmartialartsvideo.com but its not that one i checked.
mmaroot.com ufc fan i love that site
yes! yes! i got it its exactly http://mixedmartialartvideos.com
no www and no s after art! i love that site
it helps me get infromed with this mma stuff its has all ppv fights the day after it happens it goes away eventually and its really slow but its better thatn nothing so somthing i would do like if i just got up ill let it download when its downloading ill go eat breakfeast or somthing then its be loaded by the time im done! i really love that site almost as i love this one!
and it doesnt just have ufc its has it all like pride elitexc bodog for just examples
mmaroot is better
dude thanks for the website but i want to know does it load fast and how soon does the ppv fights come to it?
but anyway thanks for the website lloks like itll have clearer fight you know not as blurred mixedmartialartvideos is a little bit blurred
jucao takes the fight rnd 2
i dont know yet thats just what ive heard i dont know how good it is yet im just hoping its good…i heard the quality is pretty clear and alot of people tell me its the best place ….i think the fights will be up sometime 2morrow…but everyone tells me to watch them asap before zuffa shuts down the video due to copyright issues
dude how soon does the ppv fights come to it? an hour? live? 1 day? 2 days? what because looks like a really good site
Man i’m looking foward to this show.
I can’t wait to see Evans get knocked out like Amir Kahn did about an hour ago i’m £50 up tonight thanks Amir and hopefully Rashad looses his undefeated streak too tonight/morning
ok thanks man ya just loking at the front page and the vids already up looks super clear! i llok at it tommorrow or late tonight
ya im with you US AND CHUCK i cant believe rashad didnt beat tito and chuck did twice so i have chuck having it and the matches have started! coriera i have winning
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GUNSLINGER im downloading the ufc 88 wiegh ins its very very very cleear but it just as slow as downloading as the other one i was talking about so thanks for the website my new place for watching the fight mmaroot.com!
exactly http://mmaroot.com
now www either
chonan and carnerieo maybe split dicision
mmascraps.com is really good
ya but you can also say chuck couldnt beat jardine and evans did that……i just have a feeling rashad is gonna surprise people 2nite……what if he ko’d liddell that would be crazy…..im telling you guys greg jackson’s game plan’s almost always work
ya i think rashad has a great chance if rashad can take chuck down alot he could win
and mike its thanks for telling another website but also not as clear as mmaroot
and i thought chuck beat jardine
anyway hopfully fight goes to KO!
ohhh chonan wins …..i like roan and ryo but i dont see either of them as middleweight title contenders ever so this fight didnt really matter for me
Yeah I have nothing against Hamill, Palhares, or Evans and don’t really mind any of them (though I haven’t seen enough of Palhares to really make a decision) but I would like to see Liddell, Franklin, and Henderson have another run before they become average fighters as they age.
ya not really interested
i would like both jason fight though
i hope lambert wins
im with you ufc fan the punishers odd midsection will confuse mcdonald and allow lambert to ko him
It’s my understanding that Dana White made it clear to Rich Franklin that the UFC was not interested in a Franklin - Silva 3 so if he stayed at MW he’d pretty much be a doorman for the UFC.
well i would like to see him face dan henderson then move because everyone should know he cant beat silva bad for him probaly wont be able to become champ at LWH but i would like to see rich get lucky and beat silva not really silva fan
ya i mean franklin is awesome but he cant beat silva theres not even a reason to try because then franklin will beat eventuall contenders and cause them to not be as good so this way we can see fighters get a title shot without having to go through ace first and then losing
yeah dolfang I heard the same thing and can totally see why the UFC wouldn’t want to see that since Franklin didn’t really seem to improve on anything from the previous fight. Also usually they only like to have a best of 3 between fighters.
chuck hopfully tko or ko round 1
dan henderson win by tko round 2
rich win by tko round 3
dang hey kris how did lambert look this fight did he look more tired and slow from the cut or did he look faster and stronger
awn… lambert lose well mcdonalds pretty goos so it ok i have boestch winning dont really know mike patt i have only seen boestch in his fight with hammill
ufc fan u didnt see the heath/boetsch fight well you should find it somewhere that fight is a classic
I agree with Dana in saying no one wants to see Franklin vs Silva 3.
Who would buy that fight again ?
Looking foward to seeing The Hitman in action and hopefully after tonight (I expect a Kampmann win) we will see a Silva vs Kampmann fight in early 09′
McDonald is a good fighter… Lambert?… not so much…
i know kampmann is good but for a title shot? no but since rich cant beat silva and niether can henderson so if someone could beat both of them they would be a great contender
ive said it once and ill say it again MARTAIN “THE HITMAN” KAMPMANN will be the guy who beats silva and takes the mdw belt
I don’t think anybody would be interested in Franklin - Silva 3 right away, but if both guys had 4 or 5 fights and won them all, maybe they would. It’s a moot point now. They made Franklin join a stacked LHW group where he might be competeive and leave a sparse MW group where he struggled against Silva. The only good thing about this move is it opens the door for other MWs to get a shot at Silva. The downside there is apparantly Silva is such a good friend with guys like Filho that they don’t want to fight him… I guess from that I take it that Silva and Franklin don’t get along very well…
Kampmann might very well beat Silva… so could Henderson. Henderson did fairly well until Silva caught him. Henderson has lost to guys before and came back to beat them in a rematch.
i didnt know MIKE MATT was fighting tonight haha its patt
If Cote can get a shot after 5 in a row why not Kampmann if he wins tonight ?
Your right Gunslinger i also think Kampmann is the man to stop Silva he looks the real deal
ya i know i think he can catch silva with a submission and win…also kampmann has really good recovery skills and can submit or tko fighters will he is rocked/deazzed…see kampmann vs mcfedries
When Kampmann fought McFedries didn’t it look like McFedries look like he gassed? He started looking real tired to me so soon in the fight.
i dont know i think ill watch the fight again cortesy of mmaroot.com right now while im waiting for the next fight……i know kampmann got dazzed a bit then he came back and put drew out to catch some zzzzzzzz!
Kurt Pellegrino is very consistent… he consistently loses to the top tier fighters. Is Thiago Tavares a top tier fighter? His Jiu-Jitsu is great. I think we’ll learm more about him tonight.
Kampmann did FINISH the fight strong! It just looked like McFedries zombied out.
cant really tell if mcfedries got gassed but to me it just looked like he got excited and tried to throw his power into everything and then kampmann threw him to the ground and showed a great example of position before submission jui jitsu
Liddell by KO.
Hammill by dec.
Hendo by ko
so who’s excited to see the STUN GUNN tonight!!!
i think if kurt keeps the fight standing he has a better chance rather than goin to the ground to try an sub tavares
Hammill’s standup against bisping was so bad I can’t imagine him being able to beat Franklin… we’ll see…
bisping’s conduct after that fight was inexcusable
hammill’s standup is actually pretty good and he did good during that fight…which hammill won that headlock with punchs is actually a really good technique to use …its like dirty boxing for strong wrestlers……but also pelligrno has got this fight hopefully i think he will tjo him rnd 2 or three
k*
I thought Hammill’s standup was terrible and ineffecvtive. I can’t stand bisping and wanted to see Hammill finish him. I still think Hammill got robbed with that sorry decision.
ya definitly the worst decsion in mma history
I think bisping Machidaed Hammill in that fight. He just ran away as much as he could. Hammill spent the evening all alone in the middle of the ring.
Has the Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino fight started yet?
machidaed…come on now machida is a great fighter with a very exciting fighting style…to watch him fight is like watching mma ballet and perfection ….machida rules man….i dont see how people think he just runs…..machida is a technician and probably the best technical fighter in the ufc and in my opinion the best lhw in the ufc…i know he can beat forrest and he can beat chuck
also dolfang the fight is already over if you would like to know who won i can tell you just tell me if you do
I’m not so sure about that Gun… are you talking in a sprint or hurdles?
Sure you can tell me… I can’t see the doggone thing!
Matt Hamill better keep his hands up. Hamill has a habit of dropping his hands after throwing a combination or when chasing his opponent.
no im talking fighting machida rocks man…..but ya the winner was……..
When Franklin knocked out Nat Quarry, that was one of the funniest and devastating knockouts I’ve ever seen.
judge 1 scores the bout 29-27
judge two scores the bout 29-27
judge three scores the bout 29-27
with the winner by unanimous decsion..
Machida is a great fighter… he’s a lousy entertainer, but a great fighter… He’s also very, very BORING!
KURT “BATMAN” PELLIGRINO
Gun,
You really think he is an exciting fighter? When I think exciting I think Chuck, Wand, or GSP…
Not taking anything away from him, he is good and is def working his way up, just don’t see him as exciting.
Pelligrino won?… nice…
SORRY JUDGE THREE WAS 29-28***
MAYBE ITS BECAUSE I TAKE KARATE BUT YA I JUST UNDERSTAND HIS MOVES
Machida is 13-0… what he’s doing is working for him, but he’s too boring. What would he do if he had a fight with another runner? Would they just stop fighting and have a foot race?
That I can see. He has a different type of chess mentality that is odd in today’s game, for all we know that could be the future…
NAAA haha prob not, but it works for him.
The “fight” (and I use the term loosely) he had with Ortiz was pathetic. I am no Ortiz fan by any stretch of the imagination, but all Machida did was run, run run… run like the wind!
dolfanG you wouldnt happen to be a dolphins fan would do?….if so jets are going down..henne looked good during the preseason so if pennington gets hurt we got back up
well i loved the ortiz fight…i think once machida faces a fighter like chuck/thiago silva wh will keep coming at him aggresivly youll see him finish them
FINS Baby! All the way! We’re coming back! I’d feel real good about this game if they didn’t cheat and get Favre. Stinkin’ jets!
ya i know ..i had a feeling you were i just didnt know if it was like dol fanG or dolfang
I am a fins fan too… I am still pissed that they didn’t draft Brady Quinn…
There is plenty of room on the bandwagon!
Somebody stole Dolfan before I could get it a long time ago. I had to add a G
If we have trouble at QB this year I think they should ask Mr. Marino to play again.
If Favre can so can he….
Last year I was such a Giants fan on Super Sunday! I’m almost ashamed of myself…
It is all good, so was everyone else outside of Boston.
It made me sick to see Taylor in a Redskins jersey
so was i man i just couldnt stand to watch the patriots almost go undeafted….but hey id rather go 1-15 than 18-1
How is Matt Brown doing?
18-1 is prett good… unless the 1 is in the Super Bowl! Then you suck!
i dont want to ruin it it will be in soon but man dong hyun kim’s ebtrance music was so pimp’n…japanese techno FTW
The Japanese really know how to put on a fight! I love the Dream fights!
he’s korean but i think he speaks japanese to unless that was korean techno
Did anybody see the first fight between JZ and Aoki?
never mind they changed dong’s music to red hot chili peppers gay….dana who does he think he is
ya i saw one and two great fights
I was actually talking more about how the fights are put on in Japan. I’m sure he started in Japan didn’t he?
Why did they call the first one No Contest?
boestch one of course
now i have matt brown winning
jk hit aoki in the spine
knock out or tko i think matt is pretty good and he fought middle wieght and hes a WW so i think he”l get tko/ko hopfully
no way kim is to good he will probably be a champ one day kim by tko rnd 2
o sound like a good first round with matt brown pretty close
but kim sounds to good for matt
kims record is 10-0-1
afterwards probaly 11-0-1
still hope that matt wins!
w00t! leets go brown he won round 2
hope he wins round 3 hopfully by finishing but not likely
brown’s doing better he might actually pull it off
ohh close fight i got a draw or kim by split
i think brown might get it but sounds like kim got some valuable points in the end of the round
split for either of them
Cant see whats wrong with Kim V Brown result. I scored the fight same as judges. Kim won the fight winning clearly rounds 1 and 3.
i agree UK-Chris i had kim by split
if kim can get some quality conditiong he will be a great force at 170…..he only lost round 2 because he gassed but came out and ran on pure heart in round 3
no! i wanted brown to win it was close though
Now things will get ev en more interesting… Kampmann vs Marquardt
I tell you guys what…im glad UFC is in UK next month. These live shows from America are tough for us UK folk, its 3.40 am here, I got up an hour ago for the show. Every month! At least next month i’ll actually be there cage side at a sensible hour!!!
lets go hitman…..hitman gets his title shot if he wins i know he will
i have kampmman having it hes really good but not title good
The Hurricanes have a great game plan for my Gators
here it starts an hour earlier itll say 10:42 but here its 9:42
jeeze ya i wouldnt even have thought about the uk time…..i tip my hat to you chris i couldnt stay up that late for fight results on the pc…but man these fights are so good
oh! dan hendersons fight is next cant wait for his fast KO! in first round definatly
wat ufc fan he is title good even dana said kampmann is a force he will beat silva….comw on tell me cote is title good..kampmann would destroy cote in seconds ….boom takedown then boom sub and theres the tap and kampmann wins
man this is like the most coments one ever!! 135 comments!!
lol ok i dont think he would beat anderson silva though
Haha cheers man. Nah I got it live on the TV too (we dont have PPV, its just on standard digital TV). Like to keep track of peopls thoughts online to.
OK here we go, Kampmann - Marquardt…
since kampmman is so good i m expecting a fast KO before 2 mins at least
Woah….wasnt expecting that. That was what i’d call, ‘a whooping’. Nice one Nate…
Damn, Nate Marquardt just brutalized Kampman.
dang kampmann got cought awwell hell come back strong that was good marquardt’s standup was suprisingly good
DOH!
looks like kampmanns leg is still causin him problems one kick and he wobbled kind o like rampage vs forrest
lol i said kampann wasnt title good but hly crud that went completely the other way i thought it would be.
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares - Here we go!
and when i looked up kampman on ufc.com it said KO pwer even though his ufc recod shows he hasnt beat one guys with KO (in the ufc)
I just wish I could see the doggone thing!
Yeah, Marquardt looked impressive. Still looking forward to Kampmann getting back into the octagon and getting back on track but Marquardt was just too good tonight. Very good showing that could earn him a title shot or, at the very least, a rematch with Leites.
i expect henderson will get a KO
guys got to go for the night won here from till moring all good so ill just find oyut who wins by watching it c ya!
Come on Hendo. As long as he doesnt get sloppy he’s got this one.
Nate doing what he should have been doing all along,maybe there is some fire left…
@UFCfan - Kampmann’s strength is striking (hence the “KO power” on UFC.com) and he’s won 6 of his fights via (T)KO compared to 10 wins via submission. No knockout wins in the UFC yet but it’ll come eventually, believe it or not his striking is, on paper, better than Marquardt’s.
see ya fan
@The Gunslinger - Hopefully he didn’t re-injure his knee but he and Marquardt threw kicks onto each other right before Marquardt connected with the head kick. Didn’t look too serious but it was an awkward exchange.
Hendos game plan is working. He’ll catch him with that right sooner or later.
Hollywood should have this…
Curtis welcome back….
Palhares has an iron chin, and in the words of Rogan, “sick” jiu jitsu. Nevertheless, you gotta be well rounded. Hendo’s gameplan worked to a Tee. Well done Hendo!
Nice to see Henderson pick up a win inside the octagon, though Palhares also showed he’s a very legitimate middleweight and could be very dangerous with some work on his striking.
There’s some really interesting fights upcoming for Henderson possibly including Franklin or Marquardt while Palhares could take on someone like Kampmann in his next fight.
Henderson… good deal!
If Chael was as ready for Filho as Dan was tonight Paulo dodged a bullet.
What weight was Henderson fighting at?
Dont know about America, but here in UK they are now showing some pre-lims as theres only 2 fights left with nearly 2 hours of airtime to go yet!
Good ol’ live TV…hehehe
Hendo was at middleweight.
Training camp went well for one of them anyway…
thanks
I like Hamill, but I like Franklin more. I hope Rich pulls it out tonight.
Man, I like Tim Boetsch. What he did to David Heath was just plain silly. I hope he gets better at his craft.
Nate Marquardt vs Henderson sounds good. I wonder if Zuffa was planning on throwing Dan at Filho if he defended and if he stays at 185 when they shut down that division in the WEC…
Hard to have a favorite in this match….
Hamill - Franklin is tough to call. But I have to go for Franklin, his striking is much better. Hamill can get him down but will he be able to do anything when hes down there?
E-ROC,
I have to agree with that. A couple of UFN’s and a couple of training camps will do him wonders.
Yeah they just showed Boetsch-Patt here on the PPV. Good showing for Boetsch, though I hope they give Patt another shot. Don’t like to see fighters booted after one fight, especially after they try to just slug it out against a guy with knockout power in Boetsch.
I am not impressed with his strikes either….at least not yet…
I guess a Henderson-Filho fight could happen but I just think that Filho is going to get some mid-level guys to start before he moves up but you run into the issue of him not wanting to fight Silva which ultimately limits who he’s going to get matched up with.
To me Henderson-Filho isn’t all that intriguing. Filho in my eyes is too much of a risk with too little of benefit and there are several fights I’d rather see Henderson in before he fights Filho, even though Filho is a very legitimate middleweight fighter.
Why has Franklin *always* got a black eye?! He must train super hard! But not what you need going into a fight surely…
im back ..glad to see henderson get a win and kris ya hopefully kampmann comes back stronger …that exchange was very awkward…i was surprised
Who is fighting now please?
…and those super camp pink fight shorts don’t do him any favours either.
Kris,
I am still hoping Zuffa asks Rhino and Filho to cut down to WW. The power game has hurt Filho way more than he lets on.Both would make great match ups for Condit and the fans.
I agree Henderson Filho is not a great match PPV wise but a win by Dan would put him back on a fast track to a belt and would go along way in getting rid of Filho if that is what Zuffa wants.
so kris who would you put in your mma mount rushmore….i just watched espn mmalive and saw that and it intreged me……
mine would be
royce gracie
chuck liddell
randy couture
matt hughes
nothing wrong with those 4 gun
Franklin owned the first round really. Hamill didnt know what to do, and the takedown as I expected was completely counted by Franklin.
Helio
Sakuraba
Dana
Fedor
How about Karo, Lyota, Paulo, and Noons?
Punk Mountain?
whats wrong with lyoto,paulo and noons
You mean Sugar Hill…
And no Paulo, he has enough to deal with trying to end all our misery with this cursed rematch…
Matt should be glad he didn’t have to fight Anderson….
Elite XC mountain…
Kimbo
Tank
Shamrock (ken)
Shaw
surely thats punk mountain?
Franklin completely owned Hamill. The entire fight. Good show.
ohhhhh rich ko
that kick looked painful
Good showing by Franklin. Nice to see a body kick KO. Good change of pace.
I’m telling you, Hamill’s standup is terrible. Franklin’s standup is world class.
Did Rich improve his striking? He started using an excessive amount of leg kicks. It’s going to be fun watching Rich fight at 205. His BJJ is underrated still.
who won the liddell fight
Liddell - Evans. I dont think Evans is any better than Ortiz really. I think Liddell has Evans number here. Liddell has been here and done it before. Im picking Liddell…
lets go rashad
Any updates on the Liddell Evans fight??
This should be fun either way…
…fights about to start.
Xc is the proverbial mole hill. Give the spots to the four biggest investors they need something for the $55 million plus
come on rashad please this is all i want just give me a rashad win
Its possible Gunslinger…
Liddell hasn’t won yet?
i know i just wanna see rashad win and have season 1 winner vs season 2 winner for the title
Apart from the cut, Evans has done absolutely nothing in round one. 10-9 Liddell.
C’mon Rashard. You’re making Lyoto look like an ultra aggressive fighter.
Rich was just too much for matt. Matt was pretty much a punching (and kicking) bag tonight. Definitely and undoutedly, rich is (was) still the best middleweight after anderson silva in the history of mixed-martial arts!
Next fight? I say hendo or wandy or rampage.
vs hendo: fist fight! (but less coz hendo thinks and not just throws)
vs rampage: more fist fight! (more fist fight here!)
vs wandy: God! It’s just a matter of time before someone gets knocked-out!
I bet Rich will beat any and all of them!
I hadn’t even thought of that…Of course I do try to purge my mind of all of season two…UGH!
OMG!!!!
No Way, Lidells got this one in the bag and will most likely return as the champ at least once more in his lifetime. Rampage got lucky knocking him out and the Forest Rampage fight was close. Jardine was a fluke. Anyone that can win 2 out of 3 with Cotoure can definatly win a rematch against Jardine.
What the hell was that!!!!!!!!!!! Im stunned.
WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!!!!!
what happened?
i told you all rashad by ko yessss rashad vs forrest in dec yessss!…god i love you you r my savior
OUT COLD??? LIDDELL???
sugar ko
Liddell knocked out cold. Completely stone dead.
Congrats to Rashad !
Is Evans that good or has Liddell lost it altogether?
Dam that sucks! I stand corrected. I’ll be eating my words for dinner tonight. Too bad for Lidell though. That’s got to suck. Props for Rashad.
Evans vs Jardine
rashad is just that good
HOLY MOTHER****ING ****!!!!
no evans gets title shot you know and i know it evans vs forrest in dec.
Unbelievable… Can I still get a small wager down on that fight?
I never expected the Ko. I figured his best shot was a grind out decision with his 52 footwork testing liddell’s leg.Wow!
I dont think Liddell has lost it. It was a mammoth punch, right on the jaw. Up to then the round was pretty even. And Liddell won the first round.
Im still stunned. Looks like Evans Vs Griffin then. TUF 1 Vs TUF 2 for title.
wow! chuck’s done now.
Hurricane Evans
i was wrong about kampmann but rashad yes i just earned like 100 points for a perfect score on fantasy
Evans is good. Its just he has never had anything for sportscenter prior to tonight.
chuck is just getting to old, to slow, and has been living on name for 3 out of the last 4 fights.
Evans vs. Jardine ain’t gonna happen as they both train out of Jackson’s, even though it is wishful thinking.
O my goodness!!!! That was CRAZY! Probably the best one punch knockout I have ever seen in a main event.
Good job we get some more prelims. Half hour of air time left yet…
Was Chuck careless or what? How did Rashad manage to land a punch that hard?
Yup. Definitely rashad vs forrest. I’ll go for forrest. The original TUF has brains.
Liddell has fights left in him. I am sure this went over great in the ATL.
it will definitely be the year’s best knock out! I tell you girls!
Evans Forrest on 12/27 the card needs another anchor.
I was hopeful for Liddell to win as I want him to get one more shot at the championship but it’s going to be a lot harder now, though there’s still a ton of matchups for him down the round including Wanderlei Silva (again), Anderson Silva, Rich Franklin, Dan Henderson, and that’s only scratching the surface.
By continuing to fight top guys Liddell could get back into the title picture with just one win over any of the guys I mentioned. His next fight should tell us a lot about whether tonight was a great punch or whether he’s on the decline.
Chuck was his usual chuck. Stalking down Evans (who was doing a bit of a Machida running job incidently), firing jabs and hooks, Chuck went for a huge uppercut, and Evans went for his mammoth overhand right, and Evens landed his about a fraction of a second before Chuck. Which meant Chucks jaw was half way across the cage before the second was out. Unbelievable.
I never even considered that Evans might knock Liddell out…
Liddell Franklin sounds right.
im the biggest chuck and randy fan in the world…but i think chuck’s done. More fight probably means more loses. He’s got nothing to prove anymore. He’s up there with randy couture.
Speaking of, i’m afraid randy will end up the same with brock. I hope it doesnt.
You know what Kris, I think fighters are starting to figure him out, especially those that trade with Greg Jackson. Liddell always hangs that left hand low. That’s Rampage knock him out and now Evans. Overhand right is Chuck’s nemesis right now. I don’t know if he can quit those bad habits since he’s been doing it for so long.
Hunter,
Chuck could take Hammil or Franklin or Bisbing or Bonnar or Forrest or Wanderlei or Hollywood or Evans on another night.
NOW rashad proved he’s up there with the greats!
evans beats chuck, lee beats shamrock, faber beats pulver, next up brock beats randy, the old guard is done, the new dogs are here!!!!!
E-Roc,
It is a tell no doubt.
Are you guys sure Rashad Evans knocked out Chuck Liddell???
Randy has the harder fight.
i agree. but tonight…which is the more important night, rashad beat my favorite MMA fighter in the world. Let’s just accept it, man.
im in london england… i cant belivie people still think Liddell would be champion.. one thing you cant stop is time… time finally catch up with chuck.. he was slower than Rashad, thats why he got knock out… i hope he stop after this or he could get seriouly hurt…
If we choose to not accept it, will we change it?
LOL! Only if you haven’t put money on it…
Yes. Randy’s like facing a monster. Randy’s human, brock’s a ****ing monster truck! For randy to win, he MUST use his brain! There’s no way in this world he’l beat brock pound for pound. I’d say he should fight brock ala-lyoto machida. TIMING!
It took a really tough smart fighter to beat him.Evans has a solid Wrestling background,trains with GSP and Jackson’s camp in New mexico and 52 skills.
Man, all in all, i just lost about a hundred bucks. I won with hendo and rich. Money with chuck was way double than both combined! So…i still lost. Oh,well…
Silva vs Cote doesnt even excite me.
But the randy-brock fight scares me. I’m for randy, of course!
Brock could very well be undefeated in the UFC. Mir could have just as easily lost the fight like Cantwell lost the first match to Stann.If anyone offers you longshot odds for Brock take it.
Silva Cote is bad and boring.
I just don’t understand how Cote got a chance to face Silva before Yushin Okami. Has Okami left the UFC or something?
I’m a believer that brains always win against brawn. BUT! There’s always the LUCK factor. Which rashad had tongiht.
Overhand right. Twice it beat chuck. 1st was against rampage. the 2nd, a few minutes ago.
I’d love a knockout by forrest!
Kill rashad, forrest!
Hunter,
You need a Christmas trip to Vegas!
E-Roc
Hadn’t heard anything….
how bout rashad now
Forrest 60%
Same gameplan as Rampage
a little more mobility focus
THe heavyweight division’s different. The fights there are like open weight after 220 up to 265! Randy will fight at 220 (lower limit), brock will fight at 265 (limit!) AND THAT’S JUST ON THE WEIGHING-IN! On the fight night, randy will be 225 (he walks around with that weight) and brock’s will be at 275 to 280! That’s preposterous!
Dana wants randy to suffer. It’s business. It’s not a “fight”
I wish randy’s farewell fight (before he goes to WAMMA which he helped build) will be against DANA WHITE!
UFC 100: Murder in [State]! COUTURE VS WHITE
LOL!
White looks like a genious with the Ultimate Fighter Series……..I mean Forrest has the belt and Rashard looks like he is in line for a title shot with fights against Tito, Bisping, and now Liddell. I cannot get over how weird that atmosphere was after the fight. Nobody expected that.
Going back, fighting rashad (now that we know he can REALLY knock people out!) means moving around and poking-in! I mean POWER POKES! I’d say Forrest should do the same plan he used vs rampage with more mobility (thanks, dietrich!). I AGREE.
Lyoto did that to Tito. The reverse punch that canvassed tito is a POWER POKE! More of those and rashad’s toast! (Tangina nya!)
Its quarter beat stuff. Forrest should have the edge just with his base work with FJKD and the Singer brothers. 52 went along way for Rashad but the injury did more to Liddell then the Pit let on.Hes not old its just a very difficult task the first fight back from an injury like the one he suffered.HAck demonstrates some of Chucks power punches on the pit instructional and references the discus thrower in a comparison to how the power comes about. As a former thrower let me say its very hard to make the power(it takes years) without someone trying to take your head off!
Nice. Diet,you are THE FAN!
Forrest should grant Rashad the shot tomorrow.Machida is the more dangerous fighter of the two since he is taller and a more gifted striker he could outpoint Forrest if hes having abetter than average night and Forrest gets a bad draw of judges.Rashad subject to the jabs of the taller fighter and the thai clinch. Randy is still a better greco partner than anyone in GAidojutsu camp in new mexico.
cutting out for the night take care…
D
LOL! I believe that Lyoto can win the belt. He will in time. Fighting-wise, it’s very hard to fight lyoto. His shotokan-karate base is very superior combined with his BJJ. And believe this, Rick Santiago of the Nogueira-Anderson MMA school says that anderson silva is having a hard time sparring with lyoto. He pokes at anderson 75% of the time and anderson can’t just land solid punches. On the ground, lyoto also overpowers anderson. Now, going back to anderson silva’s comment on being a light heavyweight after defeating irvin, he said that the lightheavyweight belongs to his partner lyoto machida. Interesting.
and that what i said earliwer chuck is going down hill but i agree jardine lost to chuck if it weren’t for those damn leg kicks which wasn’t doing much to liddell but i expecting rashad to win i just hoped iceman won
Sick
What does Rashad have to do to get people like me to finally believe that he’s the man? This is such a stunning turn of events. First of all, Randy should really take note of this. If he’s not more careful than Chuck was it could be him laying on the mat with the bright lights in his eyes and secondly Chuck Liddell beat him the last 2 times they fought and now it looks like Liddell might not be on top of his game anymore. Randy and the rest of the veterans better start paying more attention to the young guns coming up.
I think one reason that Lyoto has had as much success as he’s had is because his opponents fall asleep from boredom and then he steps in.
If Lyoto does get the title, is there any chance that Anderson Silva would ever fight him or would he do a Paulo Fihlo and refuse to fight for the title because Machida is his friend?
I agrre with you I think rashad is the man killing chuck like that!
haha very funny dolfanG ya hes a good fighter in all but hes not very exciting hes mr.karate!
The one good thing that came out of last night was Liddell didn’t get to walk around the ring backwards and throw his hands out to his side like he always does when he wins. That kind of crap drives me nuts. I also hate it when W. Silva spins around on one foot… A spontaneous thing is one thing, but that preplanned junk is bush league.
anderson wouldnt even go for the title anyway.. he wants lyoto to have it he doesnt want to get it he just proved he is the best P4p fighter there is by beating people at LHW i dont really like him though
Lyoto is going to be the champ. I just hope the viewers will still be awake to actually see him win it.
i think its kind of cool when they do somthing most people cant do like for example i like to see GSP do his breakdancing!!!
I don’t like that pound for pound thing. It doesn’t mean anything. Royce Gracie used to fight at 170 and beat guys that were 250. He was the best fighter… not pound for pound, just the best. If BJ Penn wins the title at 170 again by beating GSP, will he be the best pound for pound fighter? If Evans moves back up to heavyweight and wins that title, would he be the best pound for pound fighter? The only way to know is for a guy to take on all comers and that won’t happen anymore. As you can see, I’m a guy that dislikes the little annoyencies in life…
Seriously, I’m looking forward to the GSP vs BJ Penn fight. I’m a big Penn fan and I think he’ll beat GSP. He’s just that good. But after last night, I don’t think I’m as smart as I thought I was because I never even thought for a second that Evans would KO Liddell.
i dont think lyoto will become champ he is a top guy but wont be champ hes next challenge should be shogun since shogun isnt probaly isnt gonna fight rampage.
rampage is probaly gonna face wanderlei and lose IMO and have shogun face lyoto that would be a good match if lyoto isnt completely controling it and being boring then it should be pretty exciting i like watching shogun fight
i really loved the fight between shogun and forrest!
In fact, now I feel downright dumb.
ya but chuck is probaly out of it now alot of people dont know that and GSP is still in his prime and being a top guy i agree bjs better at his wieght class but since bj has to fight GSP at his wieght class i think going up the wieght class will be to hard and GSP will win like the first one
man this one is getting like 300 comments!
Rua is the top contender in my opinion even though Griffin already beat him. Again… I thought Liddell would dominate Evans so you have to take my opinion with a grain of salt, but Shogun is a great fighter and it says so much for Forrest that he was able to not only compete with Rua, but submit him!
and that fight wont be like evens and chuck GSP is still in it and is the champ now while chuck is no longer champ and probaly wont be again
Penn won the title at 170 before and I think he’ll do it again. GSP is a great fighter, but he does have holes in his game. BJ will have to control those leg kicks of GSP because that’s his setup. If BJ controls those leg kicks, GSP is subject to punches and takedowns. But, man, he has long legs!
he was already gonna win IMO he was gonna win the last round and he won the first round IMO and then he beat rmpage which was no doubt in my mind that forrest won and rua beat rampage and forrest beat rua but it was close and other stuff like mir and lesnar lesnar was killing but then mir got a knee bar
Chuck is still only 35 and he could come back, but there’s so many guys in line ahead of him… It’ll take a while for Chuck to get another shot and by then he’ll probably be in his late 30’s. I don’t know how relevent Chuck is in the LHW division anymore.
but he won it against matt hughes who underestimated bj because he came from the lowwer wieght class thats why in the 2nd fight he brought it to bj better and finished him but now bj could beat matt anyway because att is out of it like chuck is
no i im sure chuck is 37 right now
before i when i said att i meant matt
BJ lost the second fight to Matt Hughes because he gassed. Not because Hughes was better and just beat him, it was because of Penn’s old nemisis… conditioning. When he started out he was winning fast and easy and he did not work on conditioning as he should have. Those old habits cost him against GSP and Hughes. I’m sure he learned a hard lesson against Hughes and he won’t let that beat him again. He’ll be in shape and ready for GSP.
Just a couple of years ago, the big dogs in the UFC were Ortiz, Liddell, Couture and Hughes. Look at the landscape now… Silva, Penn, Pierre, and Evans. We’ll have to wait and see who the best heavyweight is.
OH… I was thinking Chuck was 35… so he’ll be in his 40’s when he gets another shot… wow… I think he’s done.
If Lesnar does beat Couture then the old guard will be completely gone and a whole new group will be in charge of the ranks of the UFC. I think Ortiz will have a valid shot at Evans if he comes back and beats somebody. He would have beaten Evans the first time he he didn’t get penalized for grabing the fence. As it was the had a draw. Now the only blemish on Evan’s record is that draw. Of course, Evans still has Griffin in the way of his actual title.
I gotta go… I’ll talk to you later
i dont think tito would be man enough to come back to say he wants a new contract
he still look for someone but probaly no one will want to have him because he wants way to much money the n i hope he just quits mma
just so you know Chuck is 39 in December
He’s no Randy…that’s for sure.
just seen it no f*cking way holy sh!t cant belive it im well gutted that wasn’t ment to happen. after the 1st round i thought chuck had it in the bag then that happend best knock out punch ive seen seen tho mmmm wounder who gets knoc out of night lol, people im gutted!!! big shout out to rich franklin tho hes the man him vs wandi is a fight i wana see
I don’t think the Chuck to Randy comparison is all that fair. Lets see Randy against Fedor-Brock-Nogueira-and Mir.If Randy goes 1-4 against all them or better then Chuck is second Banana or fiddle or whatever.
Chuck lost to Jardine (who beat the champ)
Rampage(Who was a champ)
and Evans(still undefeated)
and he blasted Wanderlei(Former Pride God)
Tough Run for anyone…