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It’s Official: Randy Couture Returning To The UFC, To Fight Brock Lesnar at UFC 91

Posted by Kris Karkoski on Sep 2, 2008 at 4:45 pm ET95 Comments

Randy CoutureUFC President Dana White officially announced during today’s media conference call that UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture has agreed to return to the UFC and will take on heavyweight contender Brock Lesnar at UFC 91.

The five-round championship matchup will headline a November 15th pay-per-view event at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Couture unexpectedly announced his resignation from the UFC on October 11, 2007, citing the promotion’s inability to sign Emelianeko, pay issues, and other disputes with UFC management as his reason for resigning. The UFC did not accept Couture’s resignation, which was made with two fight remaining on his fight contract, and continued to recognize him as the UFC heavyweight champion and offer him fights. Though both Nevada and Texas courts ultimately became involved in the dispute both parties ultimately began arbitration in Nevada.

Meanwhile, the UFC created an interim heavyweight championship which Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira ultimately claimed with a third-round submission of former UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia. Though a heavyweight unification match is inevitable, the marketability of Couture’s return against Lesnar coupled with the significant money already-invested in The Ultimate Fighter 8, which features Nogueira and former UFC heavyweight champion Frank Mir as coaches, and UFC 91, where Nogueira and Mir will square off, has resulted in the postponement of the unification bout between the Couture-Lesnar and Nogueira-Mir winners until early-2009.

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  • CanadaFighter says:

    killer stuff, can’t wait to see this one, brock is gonna be a good test for randy

  • Sam Smith says:

    I thought Lesnar’s fight with Herring was the most boring thing I had ever seen. If those are what his fights are going to be like - I have no interest in watching them. This does sound like a intriguing matchup.

  • 2girls2cups says:

    just wanted to bust the cherry on this section, lol

  • The Gunslinger says:

    ya well i left the live feed to many guys fighting overdumb stuff like if the ufc wants brock to win or randy to win

  • 2girls2cups says:

    now that i’m done, good for them if they can all pull this **** off. although competition never hurts, i’m happiest when people are fightin in the ufc cuz i feel like i get the best product. if they can pull fedor, all other promotions should just pack up. i would love to see jared shaw’s dumb ass face if/when that goes down.

  • Rhymeskill15 says:

    damn…its official…
    brock vs randy…
    i gotta say…brock is a monster…i think this fight will look similar to the gracie vs hughes…
    with the younger more aggressive fighter coming out victorious….and they needed this fight on the 91 fight card…cuz flo vs joe is not a main event worth paying for…overall i am pleased with the announcement…and am hoping that brock comes out victorious…this is like lebron james vs michael jordan!!!!
    the young super human vs. the older skilled wiseman of the sport!!!!
    it will be interesting…i say brock wins by TKO!!!!

  • Gonzo says:

    I am going to have to give it to Dana, he pulled it off.

    I have many more questions!!!

    So does Randy have another fight under the contract?

    How is Brock getting a title fight?

    Will Randy get to fight Fedor in the UFC?

    Can Randy go to Affliction to fight Fedor for the WAMMA belt?

    What if Randy loses?

    Who will co-star in Scorpion King 3, straight to Spike TV?

  • Tmoney says:

    Brock is screwed. The UFC has a good health insurance plan right?

  • 2girls2cups says:

    now that they have randy and brock, ufc should focus on getting kimbo. after all, they’re gonna need security guards at the arena.

  • rutdog says:

    Randy should have stood his ground. he deserves more than $825,000 for each fight, plus a win bonus.

  • FR702 says:

    Really Lesnar gets the title shot really?

    Wow I can’t see how but ok best of luck to Randy I think he better train with someone close to Brocks size and talent can Randy even contain the clinch on Brock

    Interesting choice if I was Werdum I would be a little upset but whatever Brock v Randy is what it is

  • JOHNBOY says:

    mam i knew this was the news but sh!t im pumped forthis i hope randy wins but i just cant see it WAR UFC I LOVE U, UFC NATZI FOR LIFE

  • new age Confucius says:

    looks like im going to portland.does anyone know what the cheapest good tickets are?i was hoping not to spend more than a 1000 per ticket or am i dreaming?

  • timcat says:

    It’s about time the two came to their senses. Couture better train with some big people cause Lesnar is a beast. Again to show all you kimbo fans a thing or two. Lesnar is not getting hand picked opposition. All his fights are against legit guys. Hey Shaws do you see what is happening here. You guys are DONE!!!!!!

  • ALL_VICTIM says:

    MAD!!! Lets get it on!!!

    I am pumped 2,
    for this

    Lets see how Randy does this,

    Now the UFC has to get Fedor into the mix
    and it would be nice if they could get Tito back some how.

  • TJ says:

    first reaction - excited to get Randy back.

    second reaction - why the F**K does Brock F*(Kin Lesnar get a title shot?

    third reaction - Dana had better work some kind of magic and get Fedor too.

    fourth reaction - if Kevin Fergusson ever signs a contract with the UFC they had better get a ring, elephants, and midgets on unicycles because the UFC would have become a total f**king circus.

  • JimmyG says:

    Wow this is a huge announcement! I can’t WAIT!!!!!

  • DolfanG says:

    Don’t forget that Heath Herring was decisioned by Lesnar. Lesnar couldn’t finish Heath Herring. Heath Herring ain’t no Randy Couture by a long shot. Brock Lesnar was unable to submit or KO a journeyman fighter so don’t think Randy Couture is no match for Lesnar. The only real question for me is how well Randy will perform at 45 years old. Will he be able to overcome Lesnar’s brute strength with techinique? I think he will. I think early next year Couture will fight Nogueira for the championship. Then he will not have the experience and/or techinique advantage. But then again… Buster Douglas did in fact knock out Mike Tyson… I guess that’s why they have them fight it out.

  • Rhymeskill15 says:

    ok he didnt finish him…but he didnt have to…he controlled every ounce of that fight…
    for all we knw lesnar could have finished him but just wanted sum extra practice!! ahaha
    finishing will not be the problem…look @ rashad..he has defeated some tough opponents without having too finish them…
    brock will dominate this fight…i will say it again…
    “gracie vs hughes”
    gracie was the untouchable legend..yet hughes won because he was physically more equipped for a victory!!!
    this will be the same case…brock is too talented physically to lose this fight…
    even the mir fight…he was controlling it easily…and got caught slippin once!!!! brock will most def get the win!!

  • Courtice J says:

    I will never doubt Randy again till he proves me otherwise. Yeah Brock has the strength advantage but everything else goes to Couture, octagon experience, skill etc.. Brock is a beast but Randy will find an opening and capitalize. You know he’s going to be prepared.
    Welcome back Randy…

  • DolfanG says:

    Lesnar could have finished him?… He just chose not to?… Is that what he was saying to Herring when the fight was over?… “Mr. Herring, thank you for being my opponent tonight. I learned a lot from you and now I’m ready to be the champion.”… Is that what he said?

  • DolfanG says:

    Lesnar wanted to riup they guy’s head off, but he couldn’t finish the guy… and I might remind you that Herring ain’t exactly the same as Randy Couture.

  • Rhymeskill15 says:

    he destroyed herring!!!!!
    for 15 mins straight!!!!!! doesn’t that say anything….if brock lost one round and and was dominating the other two i can see him not finishing a problem…but that was not the case…he completely controlled every round…easily..and if he is capable to dominate a fighter so easily like he did heath…and u add some submission improvement…he is going to destroy randy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    he already has a solid mma foundation…and randy will be in trouble!!!!
    i mean randy couldn’t finish sylvia…and he is just a blob of cookie dough!!!!!!!!
    and his last fight he defeated gab by tko…
    so his last two wins have not been impressive @ all…
    gab was not ready 4 that fight..and sylvia is a bum…sooo what has randy recently done to prove he can finish a fighter who is physically better than himself!!?!??!! it has been atleast a couple years…he is slowing down…and he is not the same fighter!!!!
    he will struggle tremendously!!

  • DolfanG says:

    Rhymeskill15

    Slow down pal… take a deep breadth… easy on the exclamation points there, big fella… Lesnar did not get the finish he was trying to get against a middle of the road fighter. Do you really think Lesnar was fighting to get a decision? No way. He wanted a knock out and couldn’t get it… he would have settled for a submission, but he doesn’t have the skill… You have to be realistic… Lesnar is a beginner while Couture is a champion. Technique will win out in the end just like it did in the Mir fight… I’m just saying… don’t hate me…

  • Juji Gatame says:

    This is an absolute slap in the face to Minotauro, not to mention Frank. Frank submits the supposed #1 contender in the first round that then goes on to ride Herring to a decision win? So they reward Mir with a shot at the interim belt, but allowing the dude he beat to get a shot at the “real” one?

    This makes a mockery of the heavyweight division and the sport in general. Randy should have had his belt stripped and then he should have been sidelined by an endless court battle. He ducked Nog for over a year claiming that he wanted to fight Fedor and then comes crawling back to the UFC with his tail between his legs after getting busted as a complete and total liar. What a way for a champ to act.

    I hope Brock pounds Randy into an early retirement and then either Nog (the REAL champ) or Mir tears Brock’s leg off to unify the belts.

    This situation casts the UFC in a bad light. Favoritism has no place in professional sport at all. Bad move Dana!

  • Rhymeskill15 says:

    haha i love the exclamation marks!!!!!!!!!!!!
    umm i dont hate u!!! hahahhaa
    i just firmly believe that lesnar will beat randy..randy’s last 2 fights have not been impressive and he has only gotten older…
    but thats a dif arguement…and maby brock couldn’t ko or submit heath…but lets look at the way he dominated and the damage he caused!!!! even if he cant finish….if the man is capable to fight for 15 mins straight and totally dominate the way he did….he is a beast!!!! not many fighters can dominate a fight the way he did…FOR 15 MINS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!

  • Gonzo says:

    Rhymeskill15, Remember Mir? He beat the beast Lesnar. And that’s after coming back from a motorcycle accident, with a broken femur.

    Big isn’t better. Ask Tim Silva how little Fedor destroyed him in less than a minute.

  • Rhymeskill15 says:

    YEA MIR BEAT HIM…BUT OVER BROCK DOMINATED THE FIGHT UP UNTIL THE SUBMISSION!!! IF THEY WERE TO FIGHT AGAIN U KNOW AS MUCH AS I DO THAT BROCK WOULD DESTROY MIR!!
    AND IF BROCK ISN’T AS GOOD AS PEOPLE CLAIM..THEN THAT ONLY SUPPORTS MY POINT THAT MIR DID NOT DESERVE THE ALLEGED TITLE SHOT!!!!

  • ALL_VICTIM says:

    Brock got taken to school my Mir,
    Brock got played into Mir’s game

  • Dr Doom says:

    the whole thing is a bunch of sh!t . The only fight that needs to be done here is Nog vs Randy and after Nog crushes randy he needs to fight werdum . Fair is fair ……..then the winner of that fight needs to face fedor .Otherwise , throwing lesnar into the mix just because he beat heath herring ?Heath is a tough guy and deserves to be in the UFC , BUT , he isnt a contender right now for the belt so why would lesnar suddenly have untold skill from one legit fight ? Go figure .

  • UFC fan says:

    ya i agree beating herring doesnt deserve title shot?!??!?!?!?! hes good but not a title good fighter have him fight gonzaga maybe gonzaga can pull him self together and head kick KO people again to title shot but hats only because im gonzaga fan anyway brock doesnt deserve it but since nog and mir are busy with ultimate fighter and brock is making hes way to the top so hes the best guy he can face of werdum i thnk its impressive beating gonzaga and rady and werdum both beat him so they should fight in IMO

  • Dietrich says:

    UFC fan,
    I agree with you.

  • DolfanG says:

    The fact of the matter is: Mir and Lesnar fought and Mir took a minute and a hlf to get the best to say “Uncle”. Mir isn’t in a bad place with his back on the mat. How do you think Lesnar will do with his back on the mat? Technique counts. Couture will use Brock’s size against him. Couture will be in charge and dictating the fight the whole way. It’ll be a good lesson for Lesnar, but at the expense of another L on his record. I don’t see any possibility that Buster Douglas… I mean Brock Lesnar can win this fight.

  • Dietrich says:

    Buster Douglas…:)
    I think Brock will get better odds.
    Anybody know what Cuban got yet?

  • DolfanG says:

    Were you really impressed with Lesnar dominating Herring? I think the mascott for the Syracuse Orangemen could dominate Heath Herring even with that big head on. Herring was a red herring for Lesnar. If he thinks he’s just that good because of that fight, wait till he faces The Natural. I was not impressed with his performance.

  • DolfanG says:

    Down here, most Cubans get a raft… sorry… I couldn’t resist

  • DolfanG says:

    I still think Lesnar would benefit with a few more fights with guys like Herring, however.

  • Gonzo says:

    Dr Doom, the only problem with your theory is, if “Nog crushes Randy,” a fight with Fedor is worthless. Fedor has beaten Nog 3 times already. No one will pay for a fourth.

  • Dietrich says:

    Heath controlled Erickson so to see him fall to Lesnar was…Bizarre.

  • DolfanG says:

    Herring beat Brad Imes too, but what does that mean? He’s a chump that will never be in a fight that matters. I’ve already written off Heath Herring even before Lesnar made him and even mooter point.

  • Dietrich says:

    Curious…Does anyone think Nogueira lost the decision to Barnett the first time because PRIDE didn’t want another match with Fedor?

  • Dietrich says:

    Good point…A win over Imes only counts if your last name is Evans…

  • Rear Naked Choke says:

    Speaking of Evans… what are his chances against Liddell?

  • DolfanG says:

    I hope Liddell gets another KO on his record against Evans. Nothing against Evans, he just isn’t very exciting to watch and Liddell getting a KO would be.

  • Dietrich says:

    I am a bigger fan of Liddell from having watched Hackelman on the PIT instructionals. I like Evans too though. Not too many guys would try to incorporate footwork from 52 blocks(Jailhouse Rock) in college wrestling or MMA.(There is a video on youtube where he talks about it a little). Unfotunately for Rashad he comes off as wrestling’s Machida in my opinion.

  • FR702 says:

    DolfanG 1) wheather check if you don’t mind 2) the Cuban joke kinda funny

    This is a very interesting delevopment imo, for all the people who have a problem with BJ getting a shot v GSP all just need to look at this situation, no way I think Lesnar deserves a title shot a loss v Mir and a win v Herring gets a title shot versus Randy unreal, and I’m kinda pissed @ Randy to go thru all this stuff and now come back and Dana and him are all cool now whatever thx for wasting a year and getting everyones hopes up to see u fight Fedor I call bullsh!t, ofcourse I will order it and pay my 50 for it but damn

  • Dr Doom says:

    Yes dolfang I agree nog vs fedor for a fourth time may be a bit of a stretch but how’s fedor in a cage ? Might be the place where nog can beat him .

  • Dietrich says:

    The raft joke was pretty good,Or at least better than the Friends episode my wife is watching…

  • killaghist says:

    look at it like this. the belt is split in 2 and boath are equil. people say that frank is bein slaped in the face but the guy he just beat is lessner and that suddenly means he can get a tittle shot? are we forgetting about his previous losses to guys like branden verra? not to nock anny one but seriously i think big nog is the least suspect of the 4 and truthfully in my opinion i think it will come to him and lessnar and by then lessnar will have improved enough to take him. everyone hates on lessnar and to that i say ok whatever but his physical guifts cant be ignored and if he has half the skill of a normal fighter he can be a champ. tim sylvia beat alot of guys on size and lessnar is way bigger as far as strangth goes he is also way moore bad ass with the speed and explosiveness. just an opinion…

    oh and about randy with the way he likes to fight i just cant see his style being efective against a man like lessnar im not counting him out and ill never bet against him but the math just seems to be catching up with him you can only beat the odds so manny times ukno

  • ALL_VICTIM says:

    *Brock got taken to school by Mir

    i hate this lapton

  • UFC fan says:

    if brock got hes rematch with mir it would go tko for brock or mir gets a knee bar like last fight but this time brock would be more careful

  • Chris says:

    He’s 1-and ****ing 1 in the UFC. Why the **** is he getting a shot at the title. This is a disgrace. This whole Brock Lesnar fiasco has been driving me crazy since he made $250,000 for LOSING to Frank Mir, who made a whopping $80,000. He should at least beat a guy like Gabriel Gonzaga before even being considered. This is awful.

  • Dietrich says:

    I got to thinking about the Imes fight with Heath. It is a disappointment because it once again showed how Heath was able to control the large bodied fighter. Then Lesnar shows up and he folds.

  • Diesel says:

    you bunch of losers!!! what’s important is the fight.. A belt is just a piece of metal.. It’s the fight that counts!!!

  • Dannyboy says:

    Let’s not forget how crappy Herring’s debut UFC fight was. Herring isn’t a proper test for Brock…Randy is. GO RANDY GO!

    Couture in 3 via submission.

  • Diesel says:

    If one punch from Brock lands clean on Randy it’s all over. No matter how experienced Randy is. He is way too old. Randy is not that good in submissions so how can he overcome the brute strength of Brock? Greco Roman Wrestling? Don’t forget how good Brock is on his wrestling..Plus he is very strong.. Even if he can’t finish, he will surely punish Randy..

  • Diesel says:

    Magno Vs Poon.. who do you think will win? Chinaman Poon vs the Iranian Magno Jitsu..

  • Leverage says:

    Yeah, Brock is a heavy puncher, its true he is good in wrestling, But what a about the real UFC experience from Mr. Natural? and the spirit of Randy in a fight? Randy will not allow to have a one time big time punch from Brock. Randy already fought stronger fighter, remember what happend to Gonzaga? Have you seen the speed that was shown by Couture. Brock will surely be punished by the OLD MAN.

  • ALL_VICTIM says:

    I cant wait…

    Nomatter the outcome I just hope its a good fight
    Go Randy all the way

  • Chuck Watterson says:

    I fear for coutures life in this fight. I will be watching just to make sure lesnar doesnt kill him. This will be similar to rocky 3 when the corner wants to throw in the towel but randy wont let him and couture could die. Lesnar has a ****ing sword tattoo on his chest, i would piss just stepping into the ring and then tapout,

  • YZFOXRACING says:

    ISN’T THAT ROCKY 4 CHUCK… EVERYONE IS DOUBTING RANDY… MAN HOW CAN YOU. IF RANDY GETS TAGGED IT MIGHT BE NIGHTY NIGHTY. BUT RANDY IS TO DAM SMART FOR THAT GARBAGE LIKE HEALTH DID. HEALTH WENT IN THERE WANTING TO PROVE HE HAS MORE POWER… RANDY WILL CIRCLE USING THE WHOLE OCTAGON AND THEN WINNING BY SUBMISSION. I DON’T SEE BROCK EVER BEING KNOCKED OUT…

  • UFC fan says:

    but i still think couture skill will overcome brock i mean when he beat silvia that was just amazing that was insane that was awesome!!! i cant believe it thats when silvia was better and when i saw that that was like watching a little kid beat of a adult whos is just so much huger! but of course the kid would be super strong! so i think couture skill will past brocks power both good wrestlers

  • ALL_VICTIM says:

    I Loved how Randy come out and kick Silvia’s leg and then Droped him with a punch. I was like ” o my god” F### yerrr baby…

  • DolfanG says:

    One punch from Brock Lesnar flush on Randy’s face will not win the fight. Lesnar can’t land a punch much more cleaner than the one he landed on Herring’s eye and he didn’t go to sleep, so why would Couture? I don’t think Brock has anything that Randy hasn’t already seen and defended from much more experienced fighters. Herring actually put up quite a struggle, but Brock out-wrestled him for the whole fight. Brock got the ride time and he controlled Herrings hands, but other than that one big punch… and it was a big punch, Lesnar didn’t inflict hardly anymore damage on Herring. he did control him, but he didn’t really hurt him after that first punch.

    Weather Report from South Florida:
    Hannah is a non-issue. We laugh at Hannah. Hannah… Herring… what’s the difference? Ike, on the other hand, is quite a monster. It looks like, at this point, that Lesnar… I mean Ike will follow Hannah up the coast and then back out to sea. It looks like it will be a tough fight for us to fend Ike off, but we’re hoping it turns sharp to the north between the trough from the west and the high in the Atlantic and takes off to the North-East… How’s that?

  • Dietrich says:

    DolfanG,
    Keeep the reports coming I am kind of freaking about the trip down for the WEC next week.
    The thing about the replay of the fight the other night. Round One when Tim was bridging with Randy putting all that weight on his lower back. He(Randy) had to know how bad that back was the way he was attacking it. And Tim must have shot up on something to maske the injury. As for The falling of Tim from a strike. Anything can happen but L5 problems typically lead to numbness in one or both legs so a weak shot could have put Tim down. Not taking away anything from Randy but it gets you its that oonly as strong as your weakest link.

  • DolfanG says:

    I would be sticking up for Silvia because of his back issue if he had lasted at least 40 seconds against Fedor. I’m sure the injury made a huge difference in that fight. Maybe it WAS the difference. The thing is, Silvia had a weakness and Couture exploited it. Lesnar has weaknesses too and Couture will exploit them. Randy is as good a wrestler as Lesnar is and he’s far better at everything else. Don’t expect Lesnar to be able to land that big right hand on Couture like he did on Herring.

    No weather updates right now, but maybe after 11:00 tonight.

  • ALL_VICTIM says:

    What? (looks up to the sky)

  • DolfanG says:

    This ain’t good news… They just showed an updated hurricane track for Ike and they showed it heading directly toward Boca Raton as a cat 3 storm. That could be the end of a lot of stuff if that thing hits here… here we go again… cranking up the generator… trying to find a gas station that’s open… hoping the roof stays on the house… no power… no traffic lights… crap all over the place… trees blown down… We have a beetle here that attacks weakened pine trees. After a hurricane, trees will be dying by the thousands all over the place. Oy-vey

  • DolfanG says:

    Oh… I forgot… I guess we should expect our insurance rates to double again! Yeah, man… living in South Florida is the only way to go!

  • DolfanG says:

    By the way, if the hurricans follows the path they forcast, it’ll hit about 10 or 15 miles north of where the fight is scheduled to be held next Wednesday night. That thing has just GOT to turn north!

  • DolfanG says:

    2 different models show Ike crashing right into southern Palm Beach County or northern Broward county. That would probably spell the end of the WEC fight night in Ft. Lauderdale on Wednesday night. On the bright side, 3 models show it going farther north and 1 model shows it going through Cuba and around Florida while the last model shows it going south through Cuba. Wherever it hits, it’ll hit hard.

  • DolfanG says:

    Noaa.gov says Ike will hit us at 8pm on Tuesday… that sucks. I sure hope the thing goes way north, but we’re running out of time now. I guess I’ll spend the weekend putting plywood up and getting my generator ready… Anybody got a spare room?

  • DolfanG says:

    It’s forcast to hit with 125 mph winds… Watch CNN and Thw Weather Channel to see the carnage.

  • Dietrich says:

    DolfanG,
    We are watching it and praying you guys are ok down there.I mean I am pissed about the fight(Really-Really)but some things are more important…Thanks for the updates and stay safe…

  • DolfanG says:

    Thanks for your prayers and kind thoughts. There is some really good news for us at this point, they have changed the forecast path and now they say it will pass by the bottom of Florida. Unfortunately for the Keys, it’s now forecast to pass right through there. The people in the Keys are prepared for this type of thing. If the hurricane stays on its present course, the fights might go on Wednesday… I doubt it, but maybe.

  • SOLO says:

    Juji Gatame says:
    This is an absolute slap in the face to Minotauro, not to mention Frank. Frank submits the supposed #1 contender in the first round that then goes on to ride Herring to a decision win? So they reward Mir with a shot at the interim belt, but allowing the dude he beat to get a shot at the “real” one?

    This makes a mockery of the heavyweight division and the sport in general.
    This situation casts the UFC in a bad light. Favoritism has no place in professional sport at all. Bad move Dana!

  • Rhymeskill15 says:

    come on solo…dooo u really think that at the end of the day people are going to not tune in…they dont care about being fair..its sad, but true. u have to remember that although it is a sport it is still a business!!! it was a huge and great business move. and why didn’t nobody complain when anderson silva got his first title shot in the ufc after only one victory over leben!?!??!?
    but look @ the result of that, now we have discovered one of the most dominating fighters!! and hopefully this is the case with brock!!!!!

  • DolfanG says:

    So… let me get this straight, Rhymes… you’re saying that in truth the end does justify the means? I think the one fact that’s been forgotten in all this talk about business and such is the fact that this is a sport… it’s not entertainment like WWE where the rules are made up at the whim of the guy that owns the WWE for the sake of entertainment, it’s a sport. As such there HAS to be, there MUST be some sembelence of fair play. If that doesn’t happen, you’ll be able to kiss this “sport” goodbye. This is just one of the dangers when one promotion has too much power. They make up the rules on the fly and there’s nobody to rein them in.

  • DolfanG says:

    Brock Lesnar has not earned the right to compete for the championship. Suppose that Lesnar does win, how sure could we be that the entire fight wasn’t scripted? I enjoy watching MMA. I’d hate to see it end and have to go back to watching boxing just because ultimate power corrupted the promoter.

    On the other hand, maybe this is the way to run the game with no sense of having to earn a title shot or no sense of accomplishment at being the champ… I don’t know. What I do know is if I was on the 1972 USSR basketball team that was awarded the gold medal over the USA in basketball, I wouldn’t be all that proud of a medal that I knew I didn’t deserve.

    How’s that for a segue from topic to topic?

  • Rhymeskill15 says:

    WELL YEA DOL..THATS WHAT IM SAYING..I NEVER SAID IT WAS RIGHT, IM JUST SAYING THAT IS WHAT IS OCCURING IN REGARDS TO THIS FIGHT. DANA DID NOT VIEW BROCK AS A CONTENDER…BUT WHEN HE VIEWED THIS FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE…EVERYTHING SEEMED RIGHT…SOOO HE MADE THE FIGHT HAPPEN..AND IT LOOKS BAD FOR THE SPORT…BUT ONLY TRUE MMA HEADS WHO UNDERSTAND THE TRUE ART OF MMA WOULD REALIZE HOW THIS HURTS THE SPORT…THIS IS JUST LIKE THE HIP HOP INDUSTRY!!!!

  • DolfanG says:

    On a serious note, Dana White made some statement about propelling Lesnar to the top and he said something like “we don’t have the political stuff where a fighter has to win so many fights to get to fight for the title.” That “political stuff” is what makes a championship worth competeing for. Do you enjoy the tournament (sic) style of fights? I really enjoyed watching Dream when Hansen finally beat Aoki for that title. That title was earned through that “political stuff”. True, even in boxing, promoters did some shady things to get there guy a shot, but to get a shot, they still had to be at the top of the heap. Maybe a #2 contender got the nod over a #1 contender, but I never saw any WBA or WBC champion that had only 3 or 4 fights to his credit. Maybe I missed the one guy that did…

  • UFC fan says:

    well anyway i have couture winning and if he lose that would suck for him chance at fedor

  • DolfanG says:

    So we agree on this then. I really want to see Lesnar fight. I think in a year or two, he can beat Fedor, but I want to see it done right and not at Dana’s whim. This ain’t right, but it’s going to happen. I won’t pay to see it, but if I can see it for free, then I’ll watch… I’m a hypocrit I suppose… then that’s what I am…

    Gotta go for now, but I’ll be back later… I gotta go inflate some innertubes in case the hurricane causes a flood… (just kidding, I hope)

  • UFC fan says:

    ya with more experience lesnar can be amazing

  • Rhymeskill15 says:

    yea i would want to see him earn his shot…but if any of us were in dana’s shoes and we were aware of the amount of money we would be able to make by putting this fight on..i know not one person on this site would not allow this fight to happen!!! thats just the sad way the world works…

  • FR702 says:

    I too would like Lesnar to earn his fight against Randy but owell I guess I’m still not yet super pumped about this fight…..

    DolfanG, best of luck being in south Florida, I made it to Oklahoma (yay this place sucks) again best on ya cheers

  • Rhymeskill15 says:

    hey dolfang your in south florida?!?!
    man thats crazy…for some reason i was thinking all of you guys are from LOS ANGELES!! HAHA
    hey..the ufc needs to bring an event to the staples center!!! i would be there for surrrrre!!

  • DolfanG says:

    Thanks FR702

    It looks like we might be spared from this monster of a storm. It’s amazing how much difference there is in terms of damage between a storm of 90mph winds and one of 115mph winds. Usually it takes about 4 or 5 hours for the hurricane force winds to pass, but then you still have 70 and 60 mph winds for several hours more…

    Anyway… back to MMA… for right now…

    Rhymes,

    I can honestly tell you that if I was in Dana’s shoes, I would do things differently. Dana does things as if the company will fold up any day. Having Lesnar fight Randy without earning the right for instance, I would plan on having that fight at a later time and try to build more interest in it so I could make more money from it and at the same time, Lesnar would be learning and when they did fight, maybe he would have earned the right to fight for a championship. I guess I would put the horse in front of the cart instead of the way Dana does it.

  • Rhymeskill15 says:

    good answer dol…
    but the problem is…if brock were to fight a couple more times and say he does horrible and he is not as great as we thought…then the randy fight will never happen and it will lose all interest…because brock loses value…u gotta feed the fans hot meals…not when the food is cold!! u get me…

  • DolfanG says:

    True enuff Rhymes, but if that senerio did happen, then somebody would have had to beat up on Lesnar. That guy then would become the next challenge for Randy. That’s the point. Weed out the pretenders and get down to the contenders. There’s always going to be another guy coming along that, after a few fights, will spur interest. Look at John Fitch. How many fights did he have before he challenged GSP? He was brought along real well. He lost, but there was a lot of interest in that fight. They didn’t have Fitch fight GSP after 2 or 3 fights on his record.

  • DolfanG says:

    Here’s the latest guess from the hurricane center: They think Ike will be a Florida event. They expect Ike to slide by the bottom of Florida possibly even hitting Cuba and missing the Keys all together. As it passes by Florida, a trough from the west will direct Ike back toward Florida around Tamps or Gainesville. Once Ike hits the warm water from the Gulf, it should strengthen and that would make it a real monster if it hits Tampa or Gainesville. If that’s the scenerio, my heart goes out to those people. That’s gonna suck. Everything will get torn up… no power… flooded streets… no gasoline… everything closed… hot, humid and no AC. I’ve lived it numerous times and don’t want to live it anymore. The worst problem is for the poor people that have their houses flooded. They’ll lose everything…

  • DolfanG says:

    Would you like a little perspective? Dr. Steve Lyons of the hurricane center said that winds of 150mph kicking up sand can actually completely take a person’s face off. He said it happened in 1935 in a hurricane.

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