Couture Could Fight Lesnar In November, Emelianenko In Early-2009
UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture may be on the verge of resolving his contract dispute with the UFC and could return in November to take on heavyweight contender Brock Lesnar in the main event of UFC 91.
Additionally, if he gets past the former collegiate and professional wrestler Couture’s hopes of fighting Fedor Emelianenko could become a reality in early-2009.
The latest developments, on the heals of Friday’s news that Couture would be willing to return to the UFC, were reported by Bloody Elbow, Dave Meltzer, MMA Rated, and MMA Junkie in the last 24-hours.
If an agreement is in fact reached the new deal, which would replace Couture’s previous contract and result in the UFC dropping all breach of contract claims against the UFC hall of famer, could be announced as early as Tuesday.
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this is awesome!!!!!!!!!
i think ufc 91 will be a great card with randy and brock as the main event…
this will really be an interesting brawl…
it is tough to say who would win…
if randy wouldn’t have took so much time off i would have to choose him…
but since its been a while i think brock will have a bit of an edge…
as far as the fedor fight..im tired of hearing about it…
i can careless if it happens…
there is too much hype around it..and i think it will not turn out to be satisfying to the fans…
Randy Couture runs the best gym in the United States. The guy has had time off from fighting, not training. Lesnar doesn’t stand a chance against Couture. This is a very poor decision on behalf of Brock’s career. But I know he only wants to fight the best.
I would love to see this fight though, that’s for sure.
Wow! Really! After all the drama around Couture and him never fighting for the UFC…guess he has relized that he really has no choice if he wants to fight before the end of this decade. Brock Vs. Couture should be very interesting since one fighter is on his way up and the other on the way out! Age might be the deciding factor in this fight n we all know Randy is not getting any younger. If Couture gets past Lesnor and for some strange reason a fight is set up between Couture and Fedor, Fedor will crush Randy…That Mega fight if it happens is occuring 7 years too late.
normally lesnar wouldnt stand a little chance against couture but couture hasn’t fought in like forever! but still couture will probaly win
Well the UFC isn’t handing Brock push overs are they…. So if Randy wins he gets Fedor huh? Ok well if he does win, he fights Fedor in Montreal on the same card as BJ v GSP… Why; unless Fedor fights two more times for Affliction before he fights Randy their fight cannot happen on US soil, I believe that Fedor has a no compete in the US in his contract
O good news but I’m not getting too excited til it becomes “official”….
Wow! I hope Brock destroys that greedy punk. I know Randy is a legend but what he did to us fans by not fighting for the past year+ is not cool with me. If it was for rest or something like that (GSP style) I guess I could tolerate it but it was strictly for money so piss off Cpt. America.
only be main event because couture returing for ONE LAST FIGHT!!!! AAHHHHH! that would be awesome all respect to couture dont like him leaving ufc but he needs a bettter challenge and fedor would be that man so good lcuk couture
The question is, can Couture deal with Lesnars size and strength. Couture is great at coming up with a game plan for a fight, but he’s always had problems with the bigger guys that can wrestle. It’ll be a super close fight, with little things in each round deciding who the winner will be.
so if lesnar wins…
will he get the title shot!?!??!
i think if he fights mir again he will destroy him…
as for nog..
if brock beats randy…then i would assume nog would be no problem…
hopefully all this will be soon made official..
this opens the door to many possibilities…
spud…i agree…
brock is a beast…
it will be interesting to see how randy would deal the size disadvantage…
i say after this fight…if it happens…
we have an elite xc vs ufc!! hahah
tag team match…
randy/brock vs kimbo/ken lol
couture is old. both good wrestlers! lesnar is the stronger one. couture is better skilled one. couture havent fought in forever so will be good fight it would be really bad on couture to lose then he wouldn’t fight fedor probaly..
randy will crush him. i think its a bad move. let him fight big nog.when he focks up lesnar, so what who cares. randy too good for this. dont get me wrong the ufc is the sht but this is not right for randy or lesnar.
well randy hasnt fought in a year which will make a big impact on him and besides this gives a huge chance for lesnar if lesnar some how manages to win he will get a title shot!
Randy is not going to crush Lesnar. Give Lesnar a little more credit than that. He’s definetly not going to knock him out, and it’s gonna be hard to tap him out unless Brock makes a mistake like the Mir fight. I’d say a decision is much more likely.
this is pretty exciting news for us fight fans, but I will believe it when the words come from dana white, we’ve all heard so much bull**** about what randy has been planning to do or fight for a year now that it is starting to become tiresome and less of an issue as time go’s on, so **** or get off the pot randy
Tough call, lesnar is a beast, but I certainly thought gonzaga was gonna kill him after what he did to crocop and look what happened!!! you can’t ever count out couture.
What’s the point of this fight? Has Lesnar really earned that opportunity to fight Couture? No. Let Lesnar fight the giant Frenchman Kongo and have Couture fight Verdum or somebody. What happens if Couture loses to unestablished star like Lesnar? I may not be able to see Fedor vs Couture.
Couture has more cage experiance but I wouldn’t call him a better wrestler or a better technician.It take skill to move the bigger wrestlers weight too.Brock has been training for along time now.And say what you will about sports entertainment Brock is one heck of an athlete to pull off half the physical techniques in his performance pieces for WWE. Randy is 16-8 and two of the wins are Gonzaga and Tim. Tim had major back problems and Napao wasn’t ready for the shot.
man its like ur trying to make couture sound not good
I hope Randy fights better than he acts. I just watched his movie and it is horrible. He should resolve his contract dispute and get back to fighting. He certainly should not be acting.
I’m not dumb enough to say Couture isn’t good, but it’s my opinion that he’s ridiculously overrated and got the special treatment to his last road to the title. Lesnar will beat him. If by some freak accident he doesn’t, Fedor will KILL him.
you all are crazy. randy would destroy him in a 5 round fight. lesnar got nothing on him. what you think randy gonna stand there and let lesnar punch him and what is he going to do on the ground. do you really think lesnar is going to take him down, please. randy destroyes him.
Randy is a world champion greco roman wrestler. He’s won several tourneys for the military. But Brock is a nation champion free style wrestler. Brock will shook Randy will clinch, I think Randy has the technique to take brock down if they get the Clinch but it’ll be hard for Randy to defend the shot with Brocks speed and power… I dunno… I dunno
Don’t forget you minus the broken nose (caused by a headbutt) Napo had and it might be a different match. I think its a bad match for Randy. They are both wrestler with Brock being stronger. Which means when Randy shoots in like he did against tim he will get stuffed. It should be an interesting fight.
Can Randy get by Lesnar? Randy at 45 and Lesnar at 31… Lesnar is no slouch… Lesnar finished his amateur career as a two-time NJCAA All-American, two-time NCAA All-American, two-time Big Ten Champion, and the 2000 NCAA heavyweight champion with a record of 106-5 overall in four years of college. Randy certainly has credentials too, but Randy is 45 and he’s facing a monster in Lesnar that isn’t as skilled in MMA, but he’s learning everyday. This will be a tough match for Randy to get through in order to get his arm ripped off by Fedar.
ya its definately not a walk through just on brocks size n strength with his wreslting ability randy might have a problem and as far as the match up it makes lots of sense they dont want to risk randy beating noguiera and then leavin the ufc right away they are hoping he loses to brock n makes him a big star and if randy wins they had a big ppv seller n then see what to do with him
MMA is all about finishing fights.
Randy could not FINISH Tim Sylvia in 5 rounds, yet Fedor finished Tim in 36 seconds. The writings on the wall Randy. Stay with the movies!
randy this will not be an easy fight…
brock is no joke…
he is an elite wrestler and can cause many problems 4 randy…
he is alot stronger than randy and can dominate this fight..
randy has not faught in a while…
and brock is not a person u fight after you have tooken a significant amount of time off…
if randy does win…i do not see him winning easily…
it will be a tough victory…
and by the time the fedor fight rolls around randy will be out of gas…
i dont think randy has any chance to win this one. sorry. i’d give him ZERO chance.
Lesnar is too heavy and too fast. Lesnar should fight guys his own weight to make it fair.
As much as i love randy, he doesnt deserve to fight lesnar. he should be fighting BIG NOG to unite the belts, i feel it is a lack of respect to the belts and noggy. and he doesnt deserve to fight fedor, he just wants that last big paycheck before he retires.
smitty, what are you talking about? Unify what belts?
Randy just wants out of his UFC contract. It wouldn’t matter if he won or lost to Lesnar, the fight with Fedor would still happen, no matter the result.
Randy wouldn’t knock Brock Lesnar out. There’s no chance in hell of that happening. If he wins, it’ll be a decision, which is what I would bet on happening.
There’s no way Dana should let Lesnar fight Couture. If he wants to build his HW division around Brock, a 2-2 record is nothing to celebrate.
why make excuses why couture won his last two fights dietrich, i don’t understand where you are going with it, the guy is 45 f’n years old and he beat the champ and a guy who knocked out cro cop, the man is the ****e, and your just talkin it
and what all the hype about lessnar, who has he beat, oh heath herring whoopdy fack, a guy who fought all the big names and lost to all of them, and he lost to the mick bastard obrien, lessnar is a monster i will admit, but everybody always thought the biggest kid at the playground was the toughest until he got his ass kicked by somebody smarter, couture has way too much experience and background fighting in major bouts, if lessnar wins it’ll be a matt serra type lucky shot, someday that man will be a champion but it won’t be at the cost of randy
Lesnar Vs. Couture only makes sense from a PPV point of view. On UFC Website Couture is techical still the HW Champion. How does Lesnar get the first shot at Couture when Big Nog is the Interm HW Champ? As far as money goes thats all MMA is about now a days.
On paper Lesnar should annihalate the old man but there isn’t a more crafty fighter in all of MMA…I think he may just pull off a UD victory…
Cause Couture is only fighting 1 more fight. Fedor/Couture is not going to happen in the UFC.
Imagine if Randy won against Nog and walked away. Again. Randy isn’t going to get a HUGE payday from Dana and the UFC. He’ll get whatever was negotiated in his contract 2 or 3 years back.
Perhaps when this fight is over, they’ll make Nog the undisputed HW champion.
Randy is a crafty SOB so I agree the fight goes to decision. Lesnar doesnt have the skill YET to KO or sub Randy, but Randy even with the skill and craftyness he has, wont sub Lesnar and def wont KO him. This fight will compare to when Tyson Griffin and Frankie Edgar faught.
LESNAR-GONZAGA
OR
LESNAR-TIM SYLVIA
I’m a Randy fan but i don’t see him beating Lesnar i think Randy will call it day after UFC 91 as i’m convinced Brock win via a unanimous decision.
Brock is too big and don’t bring Tim Tim in to the equation Randy will take Brock down that easily
There is big risk in the Lesnar Vs. Couture fight If Brock loses he goes down a little in the HW division and the Fedor Vs. Couture Fight will Skyrocket with PPV’s by if Lesnar beats Couture ,Brock becomes the Number 1 Contender and Fedor Vs. Couture loses a good few PPV’s and I’d bet Lesnar Vs. Big Nog/Mir will have about the same PPV’s as Fedor Vs. Couture, If Randy loses this fight.
awesome we heres the fight we all wanted
isn’t there a SUPER-heavy weight class in UFC?
thats where Lesnar belongs.
no heavyweight is as far as it goes but i think you have to be under 265 to be in it, at the time there arent any superheavyweights
Win or loose Couture will fight Fedor in Montreal.Its about time the UFC and Dana White does something for the fans of this sport instead of his wallet, eventhough it does both really.
IF and thats a big if, Couture beats Lesnar, and I don’t think he does, then the PPV numbers will be enormous.
The Lord Mark,
You think Randy is greedy because he didn’t get the money he was promised? According to Randy he is still owed money from the Gonzaga fight. Randy helped build the UFC. What about Brock? He’s greedier. He went into the WWF/WWE for the money. He new he could make millions pretending to fight, instead of going into MMA, when there was no money.
The Couture/Lesnar fight is great for the sport. Will there be a title on the line? UFC 91 will have more PPV buys than any other in 2007 and 2008.
i dont see randy beatin lesnar then what would be the point in randy v fedor? i wouldn’t count randy out of this fight but lesnar is a fecking beast randy is known for mainley wrestling but i can’t see him controling lesnar on the floor or in the clinch. if randy can stop lesnar from takeing him down and jab an move maybe he could get a decision but i dont think he could stop lesnar takeing him down and keeping him down bad fight for randy but u never no randy is the king of game plans so i wouldn’t put that much cash on it
Gonzo, you’re definitely correct there… Couture-Lesnar would annihilate the previous record for ppv buys.
Only a fool would think this is an easy match for Randy….
I have a bad feeling about this one. Brock is only getting better. I don’t think Randy has it mentally anymore. He has a lot to overcome. I’d like to see him win though.
I would really like to see this happen because I think Brock would Manhandle Randy.. Brock is just to Big and Powerful for alot of these guys
lotta mentioned a comparison between Randy and Fedar based on how they did against Silvia. That doesn’t really translate like that… for example, Fedar could not finish Cro-Cop and in fact that was a pretty even match. Gonzaga knocked Cro-Cop out and out of the UFC. Randy beat Gonzaga… What does all of that mean? Nothing. That’s why they have more fights. Styles make fights.
It’s beginning to sound like a fight between Randy and Brock is about to happen. I don’t understand that at all from the UFC’s stand point. If A.) Randy beats brock then Lesnar would have another loss on his young record and cause him to lose some credibility as a force in the UFC. Brock is only 31 and could have a long career in the UFC. They should bring him along with a few more fights agaist guys that he could learn from and still have a good chance of beating. 2.) Brock beats Randy then Randy’s new contract that they’re about to sign will be pointless because his age will obviously be showing on his record. Would Fedar want to fight Randy if he loses to Brock? That wouldn’t make sens for Fedar. As long as Fedar seems invincible he can make the big bucks, but if he lost to Randy right after Randy lost to Brock, that would cause him to lose that invincible stature.
Interesting times are ahead. I’m really curious about what’s to come.
http://www.mmapreview.com/2008/08/huge-rumours-surrounding-randy-couture-and-the-ufc/
For more news about a new contract… or more rumors to be more exact.
Liddell 4???
I doubt Liddell 4 would take place. Randy is a heavyweight now and it seems he wants to stay there. He’s got his eyes on one fight, but after that, who knows what he might do.
One thing that occurs to me is what does Fedar have to say about all of this? Is he really just sitting around waiting for Randy and the UFC to decide his fate? Fedar is the #1 heavyweight and the #1 fighter in the world right now, but who has has fought in the past 3 years or so? OK… His last fight was against Tim Silvia and he won that easily. Too easily. Is he that good or is Tim that bad or did he just catch Tim’s arm or what? He fought Matt Lindland. Lindland is a middlewieght at 185. He fought Mark Hunt. Mark Hunt used to be awesome in K-1, but he hasn’t been quite that good in MMA. he seems to be submittable. Fedar fought Mark Coleman. Coleman either is or should be retired. He retired and came back and such. Coleman was way past his prime when he fought Fedar. He also fought Zuluzinho who weighs 400 pounds. And we can’t forget about Hong-Man Choi who’s 7′2″ tall.
Like everybody else, I’d like to see Fedar vs. Randy, but after that fight, who might be next for Fedar? What heavyweight would be a contender if Fedar beats Randy?… Mir?… Lesnar?…
One more thought… Fedar usually fights in Japan on New Year’s Eve and last year after beating Hong-Man Choi he said he would be back this year. If he doesn fight on New Year’s Eve, would he still want to fight Randy in February? Is that too soon to plan another fight?
if fedor came to the ufc im sure alot of big 205 would want a crack at him maybe even anderson silva would like to move up an fight him i think he walks round at 220 pound and im sure fedor fights at 230/240??
lesnar vs fedor
kongo vs fedor
t-silva vs fedor
liddell vs fedor
rampage vs fedor
im sure these guys could fight heavyweight and make intresting matches against fedor
I haven’t seen anything about Fedor going to the UFC. If he and Randy fight , from what I’ve seen so far, it would be as a co-promotion with the UFC and I would expect that to be a one-time-only promotion to settle it with Randy. Of course, in the future the UFC will have to see the light and do more co-promotions. They have the perfect man to do that with in Anderson Silva. They could solidify their position as the best promotion company if Anderson Silva represented them and became the undisputed world middleweight champion. They have co-promoted before with Liddell when he fought Rampage in Pride and got his butt kicked.
Ever since Lesnar started fighting for the UFC I have seen many people post complaining about Lesnar’s weight. Have these people not heard of weight cutting? You have to be 265 the day of the weigh-in for Heavyweight. Just because there aren’t many fighters who have to CUT WEIGHT to make 265, doesn’t mean Lesnar’s cheating or has an unfair advantage. He’s playing the game. Nobody complains when Forrest Griffin cuts from 240 to 205, or when Anderson Silva cuts from 220 to 185, or when Matt Hughes cuts from 190 to 170. Every fighter cuts weight with the exception of most of the Heavyweights. Don’t hate on Brock because he’s a genetic freak who can cut from 290 to 265 and destroy Heath’s face with a single punch!
There is little shot randy can stand the punishment of brock. Randys greco roman wrestling is nulified by those wings brock calls lats. I doubt he can even out box him. randy will end up on his back where he is just average and once there brock will keep him there. while i hope he does put up a good fight i just think he doesnt have the size or athelicism to even compete.
wow the above comment is hilarious. Heath’s face was a damn mess dude hahahahha
I meant Drightlers comment
Brock Lesnar is a beast and he’s a tough guy… incredible college wrestler, but… and this is a BIG BUT, HE AIN’T NEVER COMPETED AGAINST A GUY LIKE RANDY COUTURE. This will be a whole new deal for Lesnar. Randy is old, but he is also a tremendous wrestler and he has submissions and knows how to fight MMA style. Brock is still learning. It should be a heck of a fight.
I think Lesnar/Couture could get more PPV buys and make more money than Couture/Fedor as ridiculous as it may sound or truly be. I still talk to people who like/claim to love MMA and they are still unfamiliar with Fedor. PURE INSANITY! Just a thought on why the UFC might be willing to resolve the issue in this manner. This could also expose Randy’s age which he has not shown signs of yet. Eventually every athelete shows his age and I think Brock’s strength could wear Randy out. Perhaps Dana will offer Brock a bribe on the side to really try and hurt Randy. I feel f-d up for being this way but I hope Randy gets put out of commission by Brock long enough to completely ruin any chance of Fedor/Couture. To me, Couture took too long to get his **** together after f-ing over the UFC, the FANS and himself that the excitement of him fighting Fedor does not excite me…..AT ALL! Fedor will walk right through Randy.
KOuch, as I stated earlier, Randy vs. Brock, would have a record of PPV buys. MMA is more popular than ever, Randy is now mainstream, and fans are dying to see him fight. Plus all the WWE fans will love to see Brock in a real title match, that is not scripted.
I will be praying to GOD to give Dana the vision, of all Vince Mcmahon’s following tuning in.
Maybe then Kurt Angle, 1996 Olympic Gold Medalist, will finally take a crack at MMA.
I’d love to see more Olympic wrestlers get into MMA.
Kurt Angle has broken his neck 2 or 3 times already. I think that opportunity passed, but then again, Kurt is best friends with Frank Trigg.
Del, he beat a guy who was in tremendous pain but didn’t have time to get the surgery…Dana rushed the fight because Couture was bank. I don’t like Tim but he did get hosed there.Big frickin hero. And Gonzaga was an upset. The Spike fight with Cro Cop was to sell Cro Cop to the PPv audience. Napao is all heart but he wasn’t supposed to be there and if he didn’t run across Mark Hunt in a casino he wouldn’t have because Hunt told Napao a “cheat” to Mirko’s game.If he didn’t have a spectacular Ko Napao would never have gotten a title shot because people hated him like they hate Machida.Speaking the truth not drinking the Kool aid.Oh and for the ad hominum attack come see me when you get your drivers lisc…
Randy Couture is going to kick Brock’s a$$
just because he has not had a MMA fight in a long time dont think thats his not going to be on his A game , like what
“The Rob” said
Randy, runs the best gym in the United States
but Randy has to stop Brock and not go to a decision
Nobody questions Randy’s credentials to be considered one of the top fighters, it’s his age. He’s 45 and we all know that nobody can last forever.
The Rob you need to pay attention more
nog has interim and randy has the belt so hence unify the belts
Del,
Sorry for the last line but I am never in the mood for B.ravo S.ierra….
Does Lesnar really deserved the privilege to fight Randy Couture ? We have to remember that the dude is still the champ. Yeah big Nogueira got the title but in my mind Couture is the champ and the #1 contender ain’t Lesnar unless he beat at least 2 other guys.
Cain Velasquez is way more brutal than Lesnar.
maby brock does not deserve the shot…
but im sure there not many hw’s in the ufc who would volunteer to fight randy in the first place…
brock is a monster…he wants to fight the best and he does not want no easy fights and dana can see his heart…
Couture has the best gym in the states? Ah no. Ever heard of Greg Jackson? He has trained more champions than Couture. Does Forrest Griffin’s upset, and it was an upset of Rampage, make him the best trainer? I extremely doubt it.
I too would like to see Kurt Angle in MMA. I just hope he is off the juice.
go back to watchin RAW dietrich, arguments are what make these sites great, so quit being a bleeding vagina and quit making up your bull**** stories and comeback with some facts if you wanna be involved in these conversations, who told you all that anyways, tim silvia while you were wiping his ass bangor maine
and i’m not sorry for the last line
Wow del how do u feel haha j/k
Nogueira is going to fight Mir so he cant fight Randy now (thats sucks), so its all about selling PPV
Couture vs Lesnar will sell the most
If you two boys can’t get along, I’ll turn this site around and we’ll go right back home! Now straighten up!
dolfang u sound like my mother!! haha
i dont see why anyone would have a problem with this fight…it is going to be a great fight…
in the end i know every single person here is going to be willing to purchase this ppv event if it does happen!!!
so just analyze the fight …lets not waste time and try to determine who is deserving because in the end our voices are not going to be heard…we are on a website…reeeeeeeeelax!!!! hhahaa
no need to get all pumped up and angry at anybody!! ahah
You know I really like Couture(Go Pokes) and everything but I would like to point something out. Since 2001 the guy is a 9-6 (only 4 non-medical TKO wins in that time too)fighter and has only won consecutive matches 3x since then and has not won more than 2 in a row since then either lets be honest if he didn’t have the early body of work and the work ethic he would probably not be in the UFC and you’d be complaining about him being there and not knocking people out. Also that whole Tim Sylvia and the back injury is actually true, even though I cannot stand him, and after he had that herniated disk fixed he was obviously a lot more fluid when he dismantled Vera and was doing the same to Big Nog before he got caught. Granted Fedor beat him like a bad dog.
Look I don’t like the Lesnar-Couture fight idea and it’s for the simple reason that Couture is a small Heavyweight fighting a guy who cuts from 305 to 265(and yeah it’s possible I’ve done it a lot in my life, sometimes in a week), who also just happens to be a phenom in wrestling (especially upper body and shot defense) and throws one punch and the guys head looks like it was hit by a sledge hammer. Believe me once he starts learning to finish people it’s over,whether you hate him or not he has a lot of natural ability. Basically what I am saying is these are exactly the guys he struggles with cause they negate Randy’s best qualities. He may win but he’d have to create and execute a game plan (which he’s the best there) better than anytime in his career. I still think MMA wise Lesnar should have to face off against a guy like Velasquez first but that fight wouldn’t sell as much as Couture. This is a business as well as competition so whatever keeps our sport alive.
dude, lesnar will destroy couture, couture definately couldnt win standing up, even if his tehnique is better lesnars power is rediculous and of course hell tr 2 take him down but thats going 2 be a challenge, he might be able 2 give lesnar some troube but in the end lesnars 2 strong and 2 good of a freestyle wrestler 4 cotoure 2 pull this off
how can they set up couture vs lesnar period. what ever happened to nog getting a shot to become undisputed champ, this is what I don’t understand, also I totally agree with the thought of lesnar fighting velasquez, and to be honest I believe that it will be lesnar within the next two years who fights fedor. But also people can’t knock couture for winning fights, he doesn’t have the best record I do realize but so what, he beat gonzaga with a broken arm so the whole silvia back thing doesn’t mean **** to most, like look at the size and age difference, say what you want but gonzaga is no **** even though the fight with verdum was very dissapointing also, couture will be the underdog in every fight that he is in from now on no matter who he fights, and if he does fight lesnar he will beat the odds again. Why is lesnar so favoured, because he beat herring, couture would beat herring
i have also just read in bleacher report that couture has already signed a contract with the ufc for three fights, not two. I don’t know how reliable the source but it is expected to be announced on saturday at the lidell evans fight. also says lesnar is his first confirmed opponent with the winner of nog/mir to be the next after him, while rounding out with of course you know who, fedor. I think i’ll believe it when i see it
dave meltzer is apparently the source of the news
Nice…
@ Kris, Ok as I’m sitting here watching Wanderlei v Chuck (just because I can plus I’m bored and wanted to watch a great MMA match) why has the total of the comments been reset
Well at least once I was #1 in comments @ MMAFrenzy.com once UFCfan eat your heart out kid hahaha j/k
@kris (again) hey are u going to have live updates on Sept 6th UFC 88 because I’m going to be out on business and I’m not sure if I can either find a bar that will show the fight (going to be in a SMALL town) or if I can order it in my hotel room, so essentially I will have to get updates via my phone (best internet connection in worthless bs small towns)just wondering about the fight updates here @ MMAFrenzy.com thx Kris hell of a site u have….. What’s up with the possibility of shirts? Cheers….
I wouldn’t say that Couture will beat Brock as easily as some others are saying. Brock is a formidable force and with newly gained success follows a hell of a lot of confidence. Although on paper Randy has way more experience, look at his skills! The are the same as Brocks. I will pick Lesnar on this one purly for the fact that he is younger, stronger, has been more active in the past year and really wants to get his career going!
Smitty,
Nog is already fighing Mir, so in order for Randy to be fighting in 2008, as stated, it cannot be Nog.
What’s all this crap about “Brock Lesnar hype”? How about the Randy Couture hype? Who’s he beat in the past few years? An injured Sylvia and a one hit wonder. Wow. He’s 45 now, and for the life of me I don’t know what the hell he’s thinking wanting to fight Fedor. He won’t even make it past Lesnar. He wouldn’t make it past Nog, nor Werdum. He wouldn’t make it past a lot of people. The notion he’s in the top 5 HW in the world is laughable. Sorry, but Couture is overrated. I bet Liddell is laughing about him wanting to fight Fedor. Couture basically got stomped in LHW, then went to HW when the division was weak. Again. Somehow he got pushed to the title.
Couture can’t dirty box Lesnar. Couture can’t stuff Lesnar’s takedowns. Couture won’t submit Lesnar. At BEST he can sweep Lesnar in the clinch and manage to sit on him for three rounds, if Lesnar doesn’t throw him through the roof that is. And there’s three rounds, so he can’t sit on him forever. No way, no how can Couture beat Lesnar.
Hardcore fans my ass. More like fashionable.
I can’t wait for this weekend. Lets hope the hype is well worth the wait.
i just had a brainstorm-
KIMBO VS BUTTERBEAN!!!!
is that a great matchup or what!
and the winner can go hump Lesnar
Before we just hand the championship over to Lesnar, let’s be realistic about him… He’s had 3 fights. He beat Min Soo Kim and won with strikes, he then lost to Frank Mir because he got caught in a kneebar and then he beat Heath Herring with a decision. The Mir fight was 1:30. It’s obvious how big Lesnar is and how strong Lesnar is, but he’s still very young in the sport of MMA. Mir had no trouble catching him in a kneebar, but it could have been a myriad of other possible submissions. Will Randy trade punches with Lesnar? probably not, but Randy is a big man too and he’s a great wrestler and he can not only use submissions, but he can defend submissions. Skill-wise Randy is way ahead… a life-time ahead of Brock. Lesnar is learing and he’s learning fast, but he’s not there yet. Don’t be too quick to annoint him as the king of MMA and having him fight Fedor until he egts a few more quality fights under his belt.
Couture is not going to fight lesnar randy is the champ
With the potiental that Lesnar has, I don’t understand the UFC putting him in against Couture at this point in his career. Heath Herring was a good match for Brock and that went to a decision. Why not have Lesnar fight guys like Justin Eilers, Antoni Hardink, Justin McCully and the like. He should be working toward fighting guys like Gabriel Gonzaga and Cheick Congo before he gets to Randy Couture or Nogueira and the other top heavyweights. Fedor?… Give me a break…
Kongo… sorry
i agree with Dolfang 100%.
u should have to
earn the right to rub against Randy!!!
I propose an X-tra-heave weight division for the monster-truck guys.
how about Lesnar-Kimbo???
that seems fair?
Del,
Quoting the guy who made his name on WWE? Nice
What I put down was what happened…Maybe you need to drop the action figures and read or do the world a favor and step out in front of a bus!
Fedor has something to say about all of that. He has his own ideas about who and where he wants to fight. I think he would rather fight in Japan anyway.
1. Lesnar does not deserve to be in the cage with Couture now or probably ever.
2. Couture will make Lesnar look like the nub he is in the easiest of fashions possible.
3. Finally Couture can be free of the UFC and we can see the real fight everyone has been waiting for, Randy vs Fedor!!!
this argument will only be settled when or if the two of them actually meet up and fight, and as for randy fighting fedor I think we are going to be waiting quite awhile
Del i disagree i think we well see him and fedor fight in affliction 3 or 4 and or 5 because ufc contract has one more fight left then hes done but depending on if he wins or not he should fight fedor next year imo tell me what ya think
MarkusJ, good points but honestly 1) I’m disappointed in the fact that Randy has pulled this bull for what seems like forever, and now he is coming back to the UFC
2) This fight (Lesnar v Randy) would only be to generate ppv buys for the oregon show
3) Fedor v Randy it was and exciting idea earlier in the year truly was but hell I would like to (kinda always have) see Josh Barnett v Fedor more than Randy v Fedor, I’m just tired of Randy’s shinannigans (haha)
what do i think chavez, i think when its put on a screen in front of me or announced by the ufc or affliction i’ll believe it, and source say couture has signed to fight 3 more fights, and his contract had 2 left on it, we’ll just have to wait and see
All I’ve heard about Fedor’s contract is that he signed a 3 fight deal with a no U.S compete in it, I could be wrong but this is why I think the possibility of Fedor fighting Randy will happen in Motreal or Europe the UFC should go to Japan and make it happen imo, if I’m wrong on the no compete thing then this comment means nothing I think I saw it on BE
Markus,
Lesnar is way F-ing stronger, possibly faster, younger, and most of all he has been competing as of late. His only disadvantage is experience. At this point in both of their careers, Randy cannot try to wrestle Lesnar or clinch because he will get over powered. Even if Randy gets a take down I don’t think that will do much good because Lesnar will be right at home wrestling on the ground. This is not like when Couture fought Sylvia. The way for Randy to win the match would be through dirty boxing. Randy has to throw combos/flurries and then back out of Brock’s range. Brock is being way underrated because of his WWE days and that is ridiculous. So quickly people forget he has 25yrs or more of wrestling experience and he was a great division 1 champ. That is no joke. Along with that he is a FREAK of a power house. The straight right he threw that sent Herring into a backwards somersault would probably KO Randy….I’ve seen him KO’d by less. I’m the odd man out but I do not see Randy winning this fight or the Fedor fight. Randy has been great but he wasted too much time with legal nonsense and now after all that time off he is going to come back and fight the strongest fighter in the UFC? Brock has eveything to gain in this match oppose to Randy just wanting his troubles over to get his major pay day fight VS Fedor so he can retire.
i don’t think the ufc would come to montreal for that fight, I wish they would because the bell center would sell out easily and make it easier for me to go watch, if fedor has a no fight in the us clause why did he fight at afflictions card in anaheim?
this is going to be back to back losses for couture. Fedor and Lesnar are just to powerful for him.
Its a no compete clause in the US, with his contract with Affliction ie he could go fight some washed up judoka in Japan for DREAM and Affliction could do shi± or he could fight in his Sambo tourneys in Russia, but if he fights in the USA it has to be under the Affliction banner only
If Randy does get past Lesnar and faces Fedor, I’m sure he’ll lose at least one arm in that fight. Think about it… Fedor has to eat too.
Too bad Fedor and the UFC couldn’t find some middle ground. With the massive growth of the UFCs LHW division it be great to see Fedor move down. Then we could eventually have the Fedor/Silva fight…..Sure Fedor would have to cut a lot of weight but it’s been done before. Fedor will kill Randy…..I will not be surprised to see a very similar outcome to the Fedor/Sylvia fight.
KOuch you aren’t the only one who thinks that. It’s actually a Bonzai mission for Couture because if he wins he’s going to be battered if he takes a even few shots, even Mir was beat to hell when he won and lets be honest Couture’s chin is not what it used to be. Personally I think Randy vs. Fedor would be a joke because once again Fedor’s skill set negates Couture, and Fedor excels in every other aspect. Also I had heard a rumor that part of Randy’s contract would include an attempt to make the Fedor fight happen through Adrenaline MMA(formerly M-1) since Fedor still has a contract there and would still happen at a UFC event which would be Couture’s 3rd and final fight on that new contract. Also interesting to remember is that the UFC is trying schedule events in Rome, Germany, and other international places so the options are all over if it’s outside the US.
Chris,
Time will tell all but you’re right….This is not the old Randy so many people are familiar with. Randy/Fedor has been hyped beyond recognition and I have no feeling of excitement to see that fight. I am always excited to see Fedor…..his opponents are next to meaningless. I just love seeing domination the way Fedor and Silva present it. Do you think Fedor/Couture could happen outside the US? I do but I think it will have a bad effect on PPV sales in the US because of tape delay and time difference.
Fedor has been pretty choosy about his opponents. I did hear him say that he would fight Randy. He must feel confident that he can take the old guy. Personally, I think he’s right. Fedor is the man right now. We’ll see what happens if he fights Randy and who’ll be his next opponent after Randy… By the way, has there been any rumors about Fedor will fight on New Year’s Eve in Japan?
Fedor is fighting Godzilla on New Years Eve…..my money is on Fedor. That dragon can’t phase Fedor!
Godzilla, huh?… hmmm… should be a good fight. Of ourse Fedor has hands and Godzilla has those short arms. If Fedor gets him in a heal hook, Godzilla wouldn’t even be able to reach Fedor’s heal to do the same to him… Of course Godzilla does have those big legs… I dunno… close match.
Hah, figures. Fans love to ignore the truth about their favorite fighter. My post went totally unnoticed, and it’s the one that provides factual points.
Just pretend it never appeared, Couture will win it! lol
Anon,
I am sorry you went unnoticed. Facts are a great way to present your point. I just reread your post and agree with much of it. I love the “Fedor will kill him unless there is some sort of freak accident.” CLASSIC! You are right on! It is ridiculous. Randy was a great and ruined his own ending by being spoiled and wanting more than he really deserved.
K0uch,
Cool mate. Guess we just don’t see eye to eye on this. Personally I have yet to be impressed by Lesnar. Yes, he is freakishly strong and has an act for taking his opponents down with his wrestling background. But other then that, what does he got? He lays on his opponent and hammer-fists them. He can’t finish them, he hasn’t so much as attempted a submission hold, and Mir clearly showed he can be caught, any of his limbs, with ease. I won’t deny his strength and take nothing away from his wrestling background or college record, but this sport of MMA is so much more dynamic and Lesnar has yet to prove he has what it takes. Beating a Japanese nobody, getting caught in noobish fashion by Mir and unable to finish off a hurting Heath Herring…. come on? Brock isn’t the next big thing just yet. Put him against a Gonzaga, Werdum, or somebody with more then just standup and we will see what he is capable of… is he Couture or Fedor league??? FAR FROM.
My 2 cents.
only time will tell
Up until he beat Big Tim no one talked about Couture being one of the the best in the world, everyone seems to forget that Liddell beat him into retirement. He now will be beaten into retirement again by back to back losses to Lesnar and Fedor.
Liddell has better foot work then Tim, and Liddel is faster on his feet too
HEY EVERYONE COTURE IS THE CURRENT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION!! its not a possible match up… use your heads FFS lol, he would automatically fight big Nog.
KOuch, look for a second post…
That one was my personal opinion. I was referring to where I mentioned Coutures “credentials”. It’s not even anything I have to argue, it’s pure fact.
I don’t think Randy was wrong to hold out. The guy is 45 years old. He ain’t got too much more in the tank. He wanted to fight Fedor and if he couldn’t get that fight, then he’d prefer to just quit… Nothing wrong with that atall. I hope to retire someday myself. If I could somehow manage to get a huge payday, I’d retire right now. I don’t blame Randy at all. I personally don’t think whatever money he gets paid will be worth having Fedor rip one of his arms off, but that’s his decision.
I think it all comes down to money and motivation for Randy to fight he has done it all
Anon you weren’t unnoticed I said pretty much the same thing above your quote lol. And KOuch yeah I really think the fight will happen outside the US. I believe it has to be so Fedor can do it. I also don’t think w/ a Fedor fight it will hurt that much on PPV sales, especially if it gets tagged into a UFC event.
Oh and Braa it’s not that simple since he wants to fight ASAP and Big Nog-Mir has already been signed and you don’t break a contract like that this close to a fight, so Couture-Lesnar and then fighting winner of Big Nog/Mir would be the way for the fight to happen. I still think it is funny though he is still listed as the champ even though he breached his contract like BJ did at WW.
lesnar is too big and strong for randy to handle IMO. his only chance of winning i think is pulling a frank mir and submitting brock and it’s gonna have to be with a leglock. brock arms are too huge to get ccaught in an armbar and his neck is like a tree trumk so he won’t get caught in a triangle.
randy by ko…..guarentee it….lesnar’s size doesnt matter randy is to expierenced to get hit or even taken down by a guy like lesnar….randy will nail him with shot like no one has ever seen
Randy will to it again, he will pull out something that we has not seen
i say brock by tko…
he is going to take randy down and he will be too much 4 randy to contain…this guy is superhuman!!!!!! i can def see randy winning…but i have to go with brock on this one…he is truly made for this sport..and his physical ability is going to cause too many problems 4 randy…brock is going to fight with nearly a 40 pound weight advantage…and he appears to be quicker than randy…sooo if randy is fighting someone 40 pounds heavier and faster…how does he win that fight!?!?!
i think that if he keeps it on the feet..they both have a good chance to knock eachother out…but on the ground i give the edge to brock!!!
this is going to be very interesting…but i say brock by tko!!
*Randy will do it again,he will pull out something that we have not seen
I don’t think anybody outside of Lashley could help Randy train for Lesnar.Eric Pele and Dan Christensen just aren’t going to do it this time.
Yer its going to be hard for Randy to train with someone the size , power and speed of Brock
But Brock can never train with some one who has the Technique of Randy
I don’t know about that…The all out experiance and knowledge base I agree but the body. You could sub alot of different bodies of similar proportions in there.