Silva, St-Pierre, Jones, and The Pipe Dream in MMA

A pipe dream is a desire or idea that is either unlikely or nearly impossible. Many MMA fans that grew up watching professional wrestling became well-acquainted with this idea during the legendary “Monday Night Wars” as they were left to wonder what would happen if WWF ever faced-off with WCW. Years later, that very idea remains prevalent when looking at the very nature of legitimate combat sports.

While the pipe dream has always been a reality, it would seem that it now, more than ever, plays a central role in fight sport. The world of boxing has the elusive Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao match, the prospect of which has had fans salivating for years, only to find themselves unfulfilled again and again. Kickboxing followers have longed to see Badr Hari and Daniel Ghita step in the ring together for two years, yet the whenever it nears reality the bout falls apart, be it to bad judging in the Romanian’s first bout with Hesdy Gerges or the legal troubles on the side of “The Bad Boy”.

When you step into the world of MMA, the narrative of the sport is impossible to tell without speaking of dreams that simply fell by the wayside. Shamrock vs. Shamrock, UFC vs. PRIDE in the pinnacle of their strength, Fedor Emelianenko in the UFC heavyweight division, Gilbert Melendez in the UFC lightweight division, and until recently Anderson Silva vs. Georges St-Pierre.

It was argued recently that although a meeting between the two consensus top pound-for-pound fighters in MMA would undoubtedly be the biggest fight in the history of the sport, the bloom is off the rose. Reality has set in and the single most important contest in mixed martial arts is so very close to happening that fans are legitimately one fight away from seeing it. This is where anxiety kicks in and fanship is left wondering what could possibly go wrong this time.

Upon further reflection, the truth is that the match-up in question has not lost its luster, but the added variable that is Jon Jones has factored itself in. It would seem the interest of MMA fans has almost unanimously swayed to a proposed bout between Silva and Jones, which neither man expresses any interest in. This begs the question, is it the fights the fans care about or is it the dream?

Let’s assume for one second that “The Spider” does have his hand raised against GSP, the immediate reaction will more than likely be an extreme spike in the clamoring for Silva to face the  UFC Light Heavyweight Champion. Meanwhile, if St-Pierre were to win, that massive gulf in size between he and “Bones” would all but eliminate the idea that GSP could find himself facing the promotion’s youngest champion, at which point focus will likely shift to Jones, himself. The viewership would immediately put the onus on him to move up to heavyweight and face whoever stands as the champion of that realm.

Inevitably, one can’t discount the value of “dreams” in the arena of combat sports, at the end of the day, it ‘s these outlandish scenarios that keep intrigue alive, especially with the limited number of commercially viable stars in the UFC. While oversaturation is a word that has been thrown around with little scarcity of late, the fact remains that when Anderson Silva, Georges St-Pierre, or Jon Jones is on a UFC bill, it is a social event. The idea of any combination of those three leaves MMA fans holding their breath not only because they are great fighters, but because they have transcended what was known as “popularity” and “success” in the sport for years. It’s only natural to want these things, but it’s also easy to ignore what the motivation behind that yearning is.

12 COMMENTS
  • hi im martin says:

    yeah gsp would win cuz he has the best wrestling in mma n thats silvas weakness n gsp will just sit on him all day

    • Philly V says:

      Let’s not forget that he would certainly rain down blows. While GSP has been criticized for not finishing fights, he has never avoided any aspect of the fight. Come in with a solid game plan, yes. Avoid striking, wrestling, or the ground game at any cost, no. I respect Silva as a champion, but much less as a fighter.

  • Big Hurt says:

    My dream fight is still bones moving up and getting knocked out by JDS

  • Big Hurt says:

    WTF rampage pulled out of his fight

  • Butters says:

    I don’t buy any of this GSP vs silva bs for a minute – its a publicity stunt by DW and Frito lay and will not happen. They couldn’t even get Diaz and GSP to fight!

    Gsp is great – but Silvia’s reach is a variable that needs to be accounted for and taken seriously. It would likely not be an exciting fight, instead, it would likely end the ‘dominance’ each fighter brings into his division and cut back on future ppv buys. It’s better to see silva vs jones for all the obvious reasons…

    Loved the Monday night wars reference. Since Nitros demise, I have not watched wrestling – a lack of competition made the wwf soft..

    remember when Kimbo hit the scene in strikeforce? We were getting some stacked ppv cards from the UFC.. Hopefully history doesn’t repeat itself.

  • Devin says:

    Gsp v spider has absolutely lost its luster IMO. It’d be rad, but nothing like it would’ve been a couple years ago. There is no one alive on bones plane right now, but I guess the fight with spider would most excite me, stylistically.

    Who said junior would ko bones. That’s laughable. Junior is a one dimensional fighter who won’t even be champ after his rematch with Cain.

    • Mikemac says:

      @devin
      Why do say he is one dimensional? Are you blaming him because his opponents have had no success in taking him down? He is supposed to have good BJJ, if Cain is smart and actually succeeds where other opponents with great take downs (Carwin, Mir and cain himself) have failed then we may b=get to see it.

    • will says:

      Devin, I would put a bet on JDS destroying Cain again. You down? You’d have to get your a$$ to the forums finally so we could do an avatar bet.

  • Big Hurt says:

    I’m the one who said JDS would beat bones.
    @mikemac agreed and @Will agreed also

  • Devin says:

    @mikemac

    My comment was more in response to Big Hurt’s statement that junior would simply ko bones, who is obviously one other most dynamic fighters alive. In reality were both speculating on that, just like were speculating on whether junior has a ground game or not (although i seriously doubt he had any submission skills out wrestling chops to even worry Cain). Now, even if he doesn’t, it technically doesn’t matter if no one can take him down! But I got my money on Cain performing much better this time seeing and winning, and would have my money on bones v junior well. Cain got one sloppy attempt at a takedown and then got the temple shot. We’ll see how junior handles a full round, or more, of elite wrestling.

    But big hurt, I do agree that would be the fight I most wanna see off both retain their belts. If not, then bones v Cain.

    @Will

    Haha I know I’m such a nit. Tell Chris to figure out the mobile platform for forums already! ;) No but that’s an easy bet. how about loser has to change their name to “devin’s minion” or “will’s minion” for a week :D

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