Greg Jackson Responds to Dana White’s Criticism

In the wake of UFC President Dana White’s vitriolic comments directed at famous MMA trainer Greg Jackson –  including calling him a “sport killer” and a card “murderer.” Jackson took to the “MMA Show” with Mauro Ranallo to defend himself. The famed trainer spoke to Ranallo about White’s comments, taking a fight on short notice, and Chael Sonnen.

Jackson on short notice fights:

“I was asked if it was smart to take a fight on three days notice and I don’t think it’s smart to do that. Three days to fight a guy that caliber is not a smart thing to do. I’m not trying to ruin the sport or cancel an event. I don’t know about that stuff, but thought it wasn’t a wise course of action. [You] need to have a full training camp. That would seem smart to me. Fighting on three days notice isn’t taking [the sport] seriously to me.”

On Dana White:

“I really like Dana and respect him…there is no ill feelings. I’m more confused than anything else. It’s a serious fight with serious ramifications. I don’t think I need to reach out to Dana. I didn’t mean to cancel an event and was asked to give an opinion and I gave it. We all got together and are on the same sheet of music. These guys are professional promoters and that’s what they do, I didn’t know they had it all riding on one fight. It’s one of those things…as a trainer. I’ll give you my opinion. I’m not a yes man…I do what’s best for my guy. I’m surprised by the veracity of [White's] response but that’s my opinion.”

Jackson went on to say they had no objection to fighting Sonnen if he had been presented as an opponent for UFC 152. Said Jackson:

“In this case [short notice fight], it’s a world title fight in the best sport in the world on three days notice. This isn’t backyard brawling…it’s a professional sport. I think Chael is brilliant. He circumvented an entire division…went right from Anderson [Silva] to Jon. It’s brilliant…he’s got nothing to lose and everything to gain. I’m always impressed by him.”

50 COMMENTS
  • Simon Turnquest says:

    Jackson is absolutely right. Chael runs his mouth, but when he does, everyone listens because the fact is— he can fight. You don’t take on a guy like that without fully preparing for him. I have no doubt that Jon would wipe the floor with Chael, even with only 3 days notice. But it would be absolutely foolish for Jon to fight a title fight with so little prep. That is just stupid. Dana White is a jerk, a really nasty jerk.

    • Advent says:

      What are you even talking about?? Jones had a FULL CAMP training for Hendo, who has the same style as Chael. Only Hendo has more KO power, so in that respect, Chael is less of a threat. Chael is the one who didn’t have a camp.

      Advantage Jones… and he’s still a selfish coward.

      • Clown says:

        don’t get the selfish comment. or coward.

      • marse says:

        you r absolutely right there basically the same fighter and Jones had the advantage the only thing I see is a weakness in Jones game and thats fighting a top wrestler and most of Greg Jackson fighters do just enough to win decisions and thats gonna be the downfall of mma

      • bsbiz says:

        Because clearly Greg Jackson fighters winning decisions is going to indiscriminately slaughter an entire sport. Wow. I’d never thought of it that way.

    • bezzarguy says:

      Well said Simon!

  • jija zerori says:

    Jackson is a wise gise!A fight of that calibre needs a guy to be fully prepared to save excuses!!!Dana can save the card by offering himself to fight Jon!

  • Dan says:

    It is actually 8 days notice. And I don’t care, 8 days is enough for someone who has a major height, weight, LONG reach advantage who is also a wrestler and 3rd PFP fighter in the world. There is no excuse.

  • cscwb77 says:

    Way to stick up for a coward Greg.

  • Devin says:

    Its actually three days notice to train and then they start cutting weight. Greg Jackson is totally right and i actually gained respect for he and Bones court standing by what they think I’d right. Greg its right they are promoters and they did their best to put everyone against bones like d bags. When you are the champion of the world, and potentially the best ever its stupid to take a fight on that short a notice. If you are a nobody at 205 then its Christmas to be offered that fight.

    If anything Shogun and Machida are doing THE SAME THING as Bones. And even worse, they have over a month notice, AND they aren’t even the current champions and are turning down a chance to become one in doing do. But they know its not smart, and they know that even though Lorenzo makes that bs sarcastic remark, they will still be next in line, because they are they best 205 ers in the world and the Ufc needs them.

    The only thing I’m appalled about is the disgrace from Dana and Lorenzo. From the ill planning of the card, eventually leading to it being canned and all the fighters being screwed, to the complete lack off responsibility of it, to bashing of own stars to save face. Its just unfortunate that more fans aren’t holding them accountable.

    • Kobe says:

      How is not wanting to fight a guy who has already beat you, on three weeks training the same thing as not stepping up to fight a 185lb fighter who has NO training camp while on the other hand you have been training for three months.

      “And they arent even current champions” which would make it even dumber for them to except the fight. Y would they want to fight a guy they already lost to on short notice if they lose again they might not get another shot ever.

      THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SHORT NOTICE FIGHT AND A NEW OPPONENT. He should be training MMA everyday that is the sport he is in after all. Are you gonna tell me that the stuff he has been drilling only applies to Dan Henderson.

      • Devin says:

        Where your entire argument its flawed is that you assume Machida gets another title fight one day. He is not assured. But bones is. And he avoids s potentially dangerous fight too. Out mighty not bee the popular decision, but it was ether right one for him. Machida declined what could be his last chance ever at a title fight. That’s why that was a dumb decision compared to bones.

      • Rex says:

        @Devin.

        Machida turned down a fight on short notice. He is out of shape. That is more understandable than for a person who is in phenomenal shape to turn down a fight. Kobe’s statement is not flawed at all. Machida will get a title shot. If Dana was upset with Machida you KNOW he’d be talking crap about Machida and Shogun for turning down the fights, albeit still early.

    • beefer82 says:

      I could be wrong. But Shogun wouldn’t have been able to fight due to his medical suspension from his last fight. As for Machida I can understand his point He’s been off doing nothing for a bit now and totally out of shape, and would face a guy whos been training for months. For a regular fight, I’d be pissed, but for a world title fight, against a guy youve lost to. Different story in my view. For jones, he’s been training for months for a wrestler similar to Sonnen. ( yes, I know not the same, but for arguments sake) so he wuld be fully prepared, and Sonnen would basically have 8 days to get ready, I cant see him training much after the Silva fight. I can see why Jones wouldnt want the fight, but after what the UFC has done for him, and giving him a title shot, on somewhat short notice. I just think he could have stepped up for this one. Just my opinion

  • John N says:

    As far as where Greg Jackson stands, he made the right call as a coach who is only thinking about Jones’ success within the octagon. However, Jones’ success as an entity of the sport doesn’t exist exclusively in the octagon. Public perception will create a ceiling for fighters in this sport, and the decision that Jones made not to step up when asked to has lowered that ceiling for him- at least for now. People are not happy with Jones, and thus his stock has been drastically lowered. In the end, it was a good call by Greg, but a bad decision by Jones.

  • Butters says:

    don’t blame jones or Jackson – this isn’t the wwf where you can pick up training for new fighter in a weeks notice. boo on white for prematurely running his foolish mouth – boo on frito and white for not having a back up plan… they cost the undercard fighters a lot- not jones not Jackson – its unprofessional of both white and frito to talk $hit – they’re upset because of the money they will lose. It’s entirely professional of a champ to follow the wise advice of his coaching staff. Grow up people – including Dana and Frito

  • MEL says:

    SUX TO BE JON JONES AND GREG JACKSON RIGHT NOW, BUT I COULD NOT AGREE MORE WITH ALL THE CRITICISM THEY’RE GETTING. THEY ONLY DID IT TO THEMSELVES. WAY TO BLOW IT GUYS!

  • stonciddta says:

    Remember the time when MMA had tournaments in one night? How about world class wrestling tournaments? You dont know your opponent until an hour before. This is problem hurting MMA, Greg Jackson’s approach of dont lose, instead of winning.

  • frantzfanon says:

    @Simon Turnquest, completely agree.

  • mikewh says:

    This is starting to feel a lot like what happened to Boxing many years ago and still is happening today. When the fighters starting making big bucks and there was a lot on the line the picking and choosing of who they would fight began.
    The next step was seeing up and coming big names fighting Tomato cans just to pad their stats and elevate their worth.
    The difference here is there is one organization that does it’s promoting from within, so this kind of thing will keep happening.
    Lower base salaries with higher win percentages would be something i would like to see…otherwise where is the motivation to fight hard or win if the paycheck is guaranteed.

  • rockinjohnny2012 says:

    The way Jackson makes it sound is that Jones hasn’t been training at all and is being asked to take a fight on 3 days notice. That is such crap. Jones wants to be the best, but the best would fight a replacement. I guess Jones doesn’t want to be the best that bad. It sounds like Jackson doesn’t have much faith in Jones. My own opinion is that Jones would have beaten Sonnen by TKO. The fight that almost was…

  • Mikemac says:

    @Punchdrunkgamer retweeted this Jon jones tweet from 2010 ” just to clear the record I’ve never turn(ed) down a mma fight against anyone and never will..”. ….hmmmm

    I wonder what happens to hendo, 6 to 8 weeks is generally a full recovery from partial mcl tear. Maybe he fights machida in brazil? Or maybe he waits? Or maybe they give him a rematch against silva?

    Just watching patriots bucs game and chandler jones was in on a play and the commentators brought up ‘bones jones’ and cut to a highlight of jones in the octagon and one says ‘he just pulled out of a fight didn’t he?’

  • Fcfighter says:

    I’m not privy to Jones’ Nike contract, but if I would think there is some type of championship clause in there. Logically, he’s worth more to an advertiser as champ than as a contender. This may also be the case for some of his other endorsements. IF that is the case then he certainly should set a premium on retaining the title and not take any opponent lightly enough to not properly train specifically for them.

    This is all speculation on my part, but if that is the case the championship premiums could total to more than what the UFC pays him – or at least rivals it. IF that is the case and we are talking about the difference between winning and losing being over a million dollars, I wonder how many would take a fight on 8 days notice.

    The UFC brass got a little too big for their britches and put out a marginal product in hope that the headliner would carry similar to a boxing card. They were spread too thin and got exposed. To compound the error they attempt to muscle Jones into an unwise move. Further compounding was the verbal assault of your star.

    I don’t blame Greg, Jon, Lyoto and certainly not Shogun for the cancellation. That’s a big wig decision. Joe Silva needs to stack the cards again like he used to so that the show can go on and everybody gets paid.

    Kudos to those who wanted to “save” the show, but there should be no disrespect for those who objectively weighed the risks and decided to not participate. Since this is the first cancellation to me the major contributing cause of this situation is lack of substantive drawing power on the rest of the card. The UFC rolled the dice with a 40+ headliner and assumed others would clean up if something went array. Weaksauce in my book.

    • Mikemac says:

      @fcfighter
      Nicely done, well thought out.

    • Rex says:

      So you’re basically saying Jones has a good reason to be selfish? That’s all I got out of your statement. It’s not 8 days notice to fight, it is 8 days notice of a new opponent who only has 8 days notice to fight.

      Jones only got the deal with Nike because of the UFC. It seems like he’s biting the hand that feeds him for his own personal gain. If UFC cuts Jones, UFC will still be the UFC, and Jones can kiss his contract with Nike goodbye. Nike doesn’t care about Bellator champion.

      The headline fight was enough to have a big draw. Just because the other fighters are not big draws doesn’t mean it wouldn’t have been a great ppv. They should have just put Ortiz vs. Griffen 4 on this card too according to your logic.

  • Devin says:

    @fcfighter

    You win everyone else loses. Great post.

  • Fcfighter says:

    @mikemac
    @Devin

    Thank you very much.

    If one person’s decision can “kill” the show, you didn’t have much of a show to begin with…

  • Fcfighter says:

    General question:

    Why didn’t either party suggest that Jon fight Chael at heavyweight?

    This makes it a non title fight, Jon doesn’t have to cut weight which would allow a couple more days for preparation, the card has a headlining fight and everyone still gets paid. I’m not sure if this was offered but if it wasn’t then that is a shame. At this point everyone that bought tickets couldn’t care less if a title changed hands.

    Rather than point the finger and place blame, I don’t think there was enough solution based discussions. But I digress, perhaps this was offered and I’m just unaware…

    • Five-Alive says:

      Jon wasn’t interested in taking a fight on short notice, no matter who it was against and what weight it was at. He doesn’t want to just fight to win, he wants to make it look effortless and he’s not sure that he would be able to do that on short notice.

      • Mikemac says:

        @five-alive
        Yet you say machida is smart not to take a fight on short (longer than 8 days) notice??? I know jones had a full training camp, but the more I think about it the more I agree with @fcfighter, @devin and others who say the UFC brass are just as much to blame as jones. I don’t think I am biased as I would have been pulling for hendo, but jones got sh!t on for not covering up for Joe silva/Dana/Lorenzo’s garbage card. The reason this card was cancelled was not jones. GSP had to pull out of the condit fight and they didnt cancel the card because they had another fight that was main event worthy and the other fights were solid. You are right jones could have saved the card but he should not have had to.

      • Five-Alive says:

        @mikemac

        I don’t know if you read my thread at the forums or not, it’s called “The Cancellation of UFC 151- by 5″. I posted a link just above, in my comment to devin. It’s my full outlook on this subject.

        Here’s what I posted at the forums about why I believe it was smart for Machida not to take that fight against Jones:

        “Machida is getting his 3rd light heavyweight title shot and 2nd one against Jon Jones. If he accepted the fight and lost, he wouldn’t get another title shot for a loooooooong time, if ever. If he’s going to fight for the belt, he needs to make sure that he’s more prepared than he’s ever been for a fight. Even taking the fight at UFC 153 would of been a bad idea. If Machida would of fought Jon Jones in 2012, I’m sure he would of lost. If he waits until 2013 and prepares himself like never before, than he has a chance.”

      • Devin says:

        So its dumb for Bones to avoid risking losing his title to the best mma wrestler in the game, and not to mention risk losing all his endorsement deals and the millions that go along with it, on 3 days notice, but its not dumb for Machida to forego a golden chance, and potentially once in a lifetime opportunity to compete for the lhw title once again, on a months notice? Its just an absolute contradiction, I’m sorry. You think Machida is entitled to another title shot, especially after pissing of his dictator bosses by turning down this chance? There its no guarantee you get your title fight, even after promised, just ask Anthony Pettis. This is the huge flaw in everyones argument, you assume Machida will get another title fight.

        Everyone had their own vested interest for their respective decisions. Sonnen’s was easy - nothing to lose taking a title fight on no notice which you would likely never get under other circumstances, Bones declining the risk of the fight as he had the earned right to do, and Machida turning down the fight to give himself the best chance to win on a full camp. At end of the day there were only two major losers. Sonnen because he didn’t get his golden opportunity, and Machida because he passed up a title fight and risked never getting another shot again. When you weigh the options, bones made the best decision and avoided the least worst outcome based on how it could’ve potentially out. He is still the champ and will fight another championship fight. Machida and Sonnen may never again get a chance. So if anything, he made the best decision based on all current facts. Sure he could’ve taken the fight with Sonnen, and frankly I would’ve been happy to watch the entire card had he, but in the end he still gets to cash in next month and fight a title fight. (Against a brand new opponent, on a month notice, which Shogun gets lauded for for doing against him, i might add.)

        He doesn’t have control over Hendo’s injury, the quality of the card, or the cancellation of it. The decision he made makes the most sense all things considered, for him, which is what he can control. It was under the Ufc’s control to stack the card properly and give the fans what they pay for, and it was in their control to create a contingency plan should something like this happen. They did not. Although these were extenuating circumstances which were basically unfair to all, the organization and all its decisions are under their own control at the end of the day. And the only thing worse than them not making it go right to give us and the fighters an event, was the fact that they blamed their prize horse for the blunder.

        Sure Bones could’ve saved the card and took the fight, but not only would that have not been the most ideal situation for him, it would’ve put him in the most risk out of everyone (including the Ufc, Sonnen, and Machida), and frankly, he wasn’t obligated to. To blame him for the card being canceled, is nothing more than forwarding the Ufc’s contrived, selfish, and asinine story meant only to shun responsibility and cast blame elsewhere.

      • Five-Alive says:

        @Devin

        Did you even read what I wrote at the forums? By the way you’re talking it doesn’t seem like it.

        Jones and Machida are completely different situations with different circumstances. Jones wouldn’t lose everything if he lost to Chael, are you joking me. Plus, you and I both know Chael wouldn’t of beaten Jones, so don’t ask stupid questions.

        Machida can still get a title shot, but if he loses one more time he probably won’t. That’s why it was smart for him to not take the fight until he’s more prepared than he’s ever been in his entire career.

        Everyone has something to lose no matter who it is, it’s stupid to say they don’t.

        Machida isn’t a major loser for not fighting Jones, I don’t know where your head’s at when you think of that. He’ll get his chance later on, whether he has to wait or take another fight.

        Shogun wouldn’t be getting lauded if his actions lead to a card getting cancelled before he took that fight against Jones on a months notice.

        If you read and understood what I wrote at the forums, than those last 2 paragraphs are pointless.

        Are you scared to come over to the forums or what? You’ve been invited multiple times by multiple people. You say you’re interested, but yet you don’t show. If you’re not interested, that’s fine. If you are actually interested than don’t be scared, it’s a friendly environment.

      • Kobe says:

        @Devin

        A mammoth 205lb fighter coming off a two and a half month training camp for a fight with a wrestler with a dynamite right hand, fighting a 185lb wrestler(who isn’t known as a finisher) who HASN’T been in a camp for two and a half months and would be taking a fight on three days notice as you say, in a 25 minute contest in one of the most demanding sport in the world.Also a man that will be great for PPV sales and $$$. What more ideal situation?

        Is it more ideal for him to risk it against one of the many fighters he has already beat, that is the huge flaw in your thinking, that it would be better for him to fight someone(like Machida) just three weeks later. How could it be better for him to fight someone he just beat six moths ago then to fight a new capable opponent.

    • Kobe says:

      That would be completely absurd because what if Chael beats him, and so what then they both go back to LHW and Jones pretends to be the champ when he already got beat by a guy in the division in his last fight. It would make the belt meaningless.

      • Chris Leslie says:

        So would giving a guy a title shot, who was coming off a loss who hadn’t fought in the division in years. Title means less to the UFC than the money they can make off the guy holding it.

      • Rex says:

        @Chris

        That’s your opinion, bottom line is that Jones never said anything about Sonnen deserving the shot or not.

        I could be missing something? Is there anywhere Jones said Chael doesn’t DESERVE the shot?

      • Chris Leslie says:

        Jones said it on twitter and Dana White said it two days before announcing the fight

      • Rex says:

        That was still not his reason for not taking the fight to save the card. Is there another time he said that’s why he turned down the fight?

  • Kobe says:

    I feel that if the opponent has a chance to win at all then it is not meaningless especially if its a replacement fight. He might not have worked his way through the division to get the title like you would normally see in the UFC but that has a lot to do with the state of the LHW div. right now. Also chael is only coming off a loss to the #1 guy on the planet a man who nobody has beaten in the UFC. IF CHAEL WON THAT FIGHT(which Jon Jones himself obviously thinks he does) HOW COULD IT BE MEANINGLESS?

  • superman021 says:

    Plain and simple the decision was made.. jones didn’t want to only have 3 days to train for chael.. who was already planning on moving up to 205 so I don’t realy consider him a 185er anymore.. jones has always been a guy who cited studying his opponents and training specifically for them as the reason he is successful he would of been without jackson and his other coach until the weight cut.

    It was the safe move. Yeah he isn’t a risk taker biggggg deal h wants to keep the title for a long long time… besides the REAL question iswhy didn’t Dana give Chael the shot at the next ppv Jones agreed to fight him that day!!

    • Kobe says:

      I think they didn’t really want to put jon jones on the same card as chael for financial reasons, it was only going to happen because chael was the only one stepping up for that fight. Everytime Jones gets in the ring with someone its a risk, if he were to fight chael three weeks later the biggest thing that would happen in that time is chael would get in better shape. Your telling me in three weeks Greg Jackson is gonna teach Jon Jones how to wrestle better, and your telling me he didn’t train any wrestling when he was going to fight Rashad and Hendo.

      You can’t train that specifically for an opponent unless your trying with that person Jon Jones has been wrestling his whole life

  • vjpenn says:

    After reading so many comments, I just had to add my 2 cents… I’m a fan of Jon Jones, but I’m an even bigger fan of common sense, which doesn’t seem to be all that common. Putting my own biased opinion aside, I’m not gonna debate with someone else on here as to whether or not Jones is selfish and/or a coward or whatever… Even if Jones was a puppy-killing racist, it was actually the decision of the UFC (Dana White and company) to cancel the UFC 151 card and fully within their power to keep it alive. Meaning Dana & Company are solely to blame for fans and fighters losing their money or whatever else the fallout of this cancellation caused. Although Jones turned down a fight that we ALL seem to think he was prepared for, it looks like his contract actually allows him the right to turn down a fight he hasn’t signed up for (whoa!), otherwise this would all be a non-issue. Plain and simple, Dana White and company are bitter that Jones didn’t do them the favor of agreeing to a new fight and paying for not having a back up plan in a sport where the main event changes at the drop of a hat. Placing the blame solely on the fighter for a cancelled event is unprofessional (Dana White? Acting unprofessionally??? Gasp!) and misleading. And if Jones didn’t lose sponsorship after his DWI, then he definitely won’t lose any sponsor dollars over what ultimately amounts to a personal squabble between an athlete and his boss.

    Now here goes my OPINION- it is extremely easy to sit down at a keyboard and call a man who fights for a living a “coward” or “selfish” because he decided to put what’s best for himself in front of what’s “best” for the UFC and the fans, most of whom have never been in a fist fight, let alone ever sttepped foot in a cage. Apparently, the fact that he has been training longer than Sonnen means that he should be ready to fight him on short notice. Apparently, Jones and the Jackson camp seem to be the only ones who have any respect for the caliber of fighter that Chael Sonnen is. Chael agrees to this fight with very little prep and is hailed as a hero, but he has EVERYTHING TO GAIN AND NOTHING TO LOSE. Would everyone feel the same if Jones turned down a fight with Anderson Silva for the LHW belt on just 8 days notice? What’s the real difference? They’re ALL dangerous men to step into the cage with, regardless of what you think about Sonnen’s lack of KO power, which no one here as ever felt for themselves… Or let’s argue that Jones has had a full camp and Chael doesn’t stand a chance… Why would anyone purposely want to pay $45 or more to see a one-sided championship fight as the main event???

    The fact that fans place so much blame on a fighter and his decision to protect himself shows their lack of respect for the sport of professional MMA and how dangerous it is. People think that because someone makes the decision to fight for a living, they are obligated to do so with complete disregard for what’s best for themselves and put their bodies on the line in situations where the risks greatly outweigh the rewards. If that’s the kind of sport you’re interested in, you should probably stick to backyard “MMA”. Or cock fighting.

  • Devin says:

    @kobe and @Rex and @five-alive

    Off course Machida isn’t guaranteed a title fight. And the owner of the Ufc ripped Machida and shogun for turning down the fight. Regardless you guys are going on about hypotheticals. Hypothetically Machida will get a title fight again and hypothetically bones would beat Sonnen. But the fights still have to happen. The only facts are that bones had the choice to turn out down, bones will get another title fight, and Machida didn’t accept the title fight without a contract guaranteeing he would ever get another one. My point is that Machida isn’t guaranteed the fight, so of course that’s worse than bones foregoing a fight with Sonnen, because we know bones will get another fight. I’m not saying its wrong for Machida to decline the fight, but i am saying it was riskier than bones decision for the observable fact that bones is champ and will get another title fight, but its not guaranteed Machida will. If you guys believe it was the smart decision for Machida to turn down the fight, and bones is a jerk for his decision, that’s fine. But i do know that bones avoided what he considered an unnecessary risk, and stills gets another title fight. If someone wants to argue that, i have nothing to say.

    Five if you think bones losing his belt to Sonnen doesn’t affect his marketability, that’s your belief and that’s cool. I respectfully disagree. Your open to your opinion, and i respect you, but that’s about enough of your personal attacks. You dont have to agree with them but there’s no reason to call my views stupid, I’m just stating by beliefs.

    I am interested in the forums man! And i appreciate you taking the time to ask me. I did register, but as I’ve said before I much pointy login using my phone, and add of now there isn’t a mobile environment (that i know of) footer the forums. I work full time, take classes, and have a 7 month pregnant wife, at the moment the only time i really have to jump in is here and there from my phone when i have a moment. Trust me I’d rather be able to get on the computer and hence forums more, because i think that’s where my fellow addicts are ;) and besides its a pain in the a$$ to type so much on my phone lol, but I’d like to think I’m pretty dedicated to do so :]

    • Five-Alive says:

      @devin

      If Machida took that fight and lost (which he most likely would because he’s not going to be the best Machida he’s ever been and that’s who he has to be if he wants to have a decent chance in beating Jones) he definitely wouldn’t see another title shot for a long time, if ever. Since he turned it down he may have to take another fight, but he’ll have an actual chance in winning against Jones with more time. Not just more time to prepare, but more time to strengthen his weaknesses and become a better fighter. If Machida’s good enough to be champ or get to the champ, than he’ll get another shot, whether he has to go through someone else or not. If he can’t, than it proves he wouldn’t of been good enough to beat Jones anyway.

      What I was saying was stupid, is you saying someone has nothing to lose in a fight. You always have something to lose, no matter what. Sure the reward my be a lot greater than the loss at times, but you still have something to lose. I’m not trying to make a personal attack. I’m not calling you stupid, I’m just saying I think it’s a stupid thing to say, no matter who’s saying it. That’s just how I feel about the “nothing to gain” and “nothing to lose” sayings.

      When it comes to the forums, I know you said you use your phone, but I thought you might use your computer sometimes too. I thought you might be able to drop a post at the forums once in a while when/if you do use your comp.

      Many of the guys at the forums have a family (Wife and Kids) and a full time job. The only one at the forums that’s there A LOT is me. I have a very complicated health condition, that the doctors have been struggling to figure out for the past 7 years. I’m unable to live a normal life like mostly everyone else here because of it, so that’s why you see me posting so much. If it wasn’t for my health condition, you wouldn’t see me here nearly as much.

    • Rex says:

      @Devin

      I agree with you that Machida’s title shot is not set in stone. I agree that it was in Jones’ best interest not to fight Chael because he doesn’t deserve it. The only thing I don’t agree with is how people are saying it was a smart move by Jones. Jones could lose that fight, but he has a much better chance of beating Chael due to his conditioning. Another point of mine that says it was not a smart move is that it shows Jones’ is not doing what’s best for the company. Regardless if Dana did a terrible job stacking this card, there was an opportunity for Jones’ to accept a fight to save the card. I don’t think there is anything hypothetical about that. These fighters still fight for the UFC. They are self-contracted to an extent. If they were truly self-contracted they could fight for any promotion at any time. I feel the top fighters do feel some sort of entitlement and think they are bigger than the UFC, Jones being one of them. If Jones’ would have said “I’m not fighting a person who does not deserve a title shot and hasn’t proved anything in this division,” he would have been much better off than to say he needs more than 8 days to come up with a game plan for Chael. Also he is not being hold accountable saying it wasn’t only his decision. I don’t know how there is anybody really defending him at this point.

  • Devin says:

    Wow..speaking off using my phone, that second sentence off last paragraph was horrendous lol. Freaking slide text….still trying to matter it. Any it was supposed to say i almost always login thru my phone and i cannot figure out how to access ether forums that way…

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