UFC 143 ‘Reaction from the Action’ for “Diaz vs. Condit”
The concept of sport is to take advantage of opportunities and to invoke a method or strategy to win any way possible. Often, that strategy neutralizes an opponent’s strength more so than showing off your own strength. In this past weekend’s UFC 143 main event, Carlos Condit did just that, as he swiftly moved around the cage throughout the five round match against Nick Diaz.
Diaz’s past opponents often remained stationary throughout their matchups, but Condit did not want to be drawn into Diaz’s strength, which is to put pressure on his opponent with his boxing and not allowing them to move out of his pocket.
While Condit was moving around non-stop, which is often seen as a sign of weakness, it is not his responsibility to fight exactly how Diaz wants him to. Yes, Condit should implement his own offensive gameplan on Diaz more, but statistics show that Condit landed more strikes throughout the fight. That defeats the opinion that Condit did nothing and only moved away from Diaz.
For Condit, who fought to a decision for just the fourth time in his career, he knew fighting to his usual style would work in Diaz’s favor. A 49-46 score in favor of Condit, which two judges scored it as, is not how I scored it. The third score, 48-47 Condit is how I felt the fight took place. However, following the fight, many MMA fighters took to Twitter to declare the fight as a robbery. A robbery this certainly was not.
While those fighters are complaining about the decision, they are only doing that. They state Condit did not deserve to win the fight, but are not stating a reason why Diaz did deserve to win.
The term Octagon control has come up quite a bit in defending the victory for Diaz. While that is certainly a true sense of scoring a fight, it cannot be used as a reason to give a round to Diaz when Condit outlanded him in total strikes in four of the five rounds.
Previous fights have had similar scenarios pan out, such as Quinton “Rampage” Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida at UFC 123 in November 2010. Jackson was awarded the victory, even though Machida landed more significant strikes. Jackson landed more total strikes, but never had Machida in any danger. Condit won both categories on Saturday, outlanding Diaz in both significant and total strikes.
Regarding Diaz’s retirement during the post-match interview, I certainly hope that is not the case. Diaz brings a fantastic style that is not often seen throughout the sport. Fighters and fans alike easily gravitate to wanting to watch a fighter of that style. While his demeanor outside of the Octagon is often criticized, it is far too misunderstood to be what is remembered most about his career. Inside the cage, Diaz has a personality similar to Anderson Silva. While Diaz is more brash, they both will taunt their opponent, hoping to draw a reaction in their favor.
The top three fighters in the welterweight division seems evident, with Georges St. Pierre, Condit, and Diaz pinned at the top. With St. Pierre and Condit set to fight later this year, if Diaz decides against retirement, where does he go from here? A rematch between Condit and Diaz has been brought up, but the UFC doesn’t seem to be particularly interested in that, especially with UFC President Dana White scoring the fight in Condit’s favor himself.
Biggest winner: Carlos Condit
Condit implemented a strategy nearly to a T. His prize? Another five round championship fight, this time with a completely different style in Georges St. Pierre.
Fabricio Werdum must be brought up here as well, as he looked very impressive against Roy Nelson. His striking looked the best it ever has during his career, as he locked in a strong muay Thai clinch on multiple occasions. An eventual rematch with champion Junior dos Santos is not out of the question if he continues to look like he did on Saturday.
Biggest loser: Las Vegas crowd
It is understandable that a city that hosts so many UFC events will not be overly ecstatic for every card. However, even with an excellent fight going on between Condit and Diaz, the crowd was heard booing during the affair. The Las Vegas crowd routinely fails to show up until the main card, and even then, they can barely be heard throughout the night.
With so many cities around the world hoping to host future UFC events, the organization could look into bringing fewer events to its home. Keeping the New Years, Super Bowl, Independence Day, and Ultimate Fighter events there, while mixing up the schedule, would be a good start.
Biggest question: Should there be a guideline for refereeing decisions?
During the event, two fights saw multiple infractions, yet only one was punished. During the preliminary card, Alex Caceres incidentally kicked Edwin Figueroa in the groin twice. On the second instance, referee Herb Dean penalized Caceres two points. That cost Caceres the fight, as he went on to lose a split decision. On the main card, Josh Koscheck was warned multiple times about open-handed punches against Mike Pierce. Koscheck was first warned in the second round, then late in the third round, Herb Dean again warned Koscheck, but did not penalize him for the infraction.
Deducting points is not uncommon, but deducting two points is a rarity. What is most perplexing is that the same referee decided not to punish a fighter for multiple infractions at the same event.
Future matchups to make:
Georges St. Pierre vs. Carlos Condit:
With the victory, Condit is now set to challenge St. Pierre for the welterweight championship. St. Pierre’s return is expected to take place in November, with Condit unlikely to fight before then.
Fabricio Werdum vs. winner of Cheick Kongo vs. Mark Hunt:
Unfortunately for Werdum, the heavyweight division is still looking for overall depth. Frank Mir or Cain Velasquez would be excellent opponents, but the pair could possibly be set up against each other. He already holds a win over Antonio Silva, and the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix final still has not been set up. The winner of Kongo/Hunt, which takes place at UFC 144 later this month, will be sporting a three fight win streak.
Josh Koscheck vs. Nick Diaz:
Koscheck is also in a tough spot, as he already holds two losses to champion Georges St. Pierre. He is now leaving his longtime camp at American Kickboxing Academy, choosing to train on his own in Fresno. I suppose it truly is “team me,” as he declared at the pre-fight press conference. He mentioned that getting motivated for Pierce was tough, so getting motivated for Diaz should be a lot easier. Of course, this all hinges on Diaz deciding not to retire.
Renan Barao vs. Brian Bowles:
Barao looked impressive against the always tough Scott Jorgensen. For Barao, it was important to challenge himself against a strong wrestler. He was able to stuff Jorgensen throughout the match, even though he seemed to slow down in the last round. In Bowles, he would receive yet another tough challenge. Winning that challenge could possibly set up a bantamweight title fight for Barao later this year.
Dustin Poirier vs. Chang Sung Jung:
Poirier himself mentioned this matchup during post-fight interviews, and I have to agree with him in setting this one up. He seems against taking on Jose Aldo immediately after this win, hoping to continue to work on his skills as he works his way up the ladder. A matchup with “The Korean Zombie” would almost guarantee an exciting fight and determine who really is ready to take on the featherweight champion.


Diaz needs to learn how to cut off the ring and work on his footwork
I agree in some ways, but this is not a ring, it is an octagon and the WW are very mobile. There is a difference b/w disengaging and reengaging like GSP, but Carlos ran like a champ. If this became a trend, who would watch the UFC?
“Footwork?”= the reason boxing is on its way out the door. this isnt boxing this is the Ultimate FIGHTING Championship. Diaz came to fight and condit came to run. In an eight by eight foot square box a fight is forced and running is disabled, Diaz wins the fight. Condit claims to be a “fighter” a “natural born killer.” Killers dont turn their back to their opponent and run away. Even if you say Condit won fair, be a man and admit he won by a sliver descision and call for the rematch. (GSP cant fight until November anyway.)
Start up your own organization and put your fighters in a telephone booth so they can’t “run”. Condit stayed mobile turning his back or not Diaz didn’t give chase and didn’t correct his own game plan to stop what Condit was doing..
CONDIT WAS A BETTER FIGHTER THAT NIGHT…
get over it.
You make no sense…You complain this isn’t Boxing but it’s the UFC, but you seem to want the fighters to just stand and box. Get over it, every fighter loses here and there…it was also up to Diaz to adapt to Condit’s plan but he did nothing different at all…i do agree with you it was a damn close fight, i just think Diaz could have done so much more than his usual shtick.
boxing is a part of mma rampage cut off the ring when he fought machida thta’s why he won
MMA is getting boring!!!
Too many fighters, fighting for decisions and not to win. They need to just get rid of decisions! If you don’t finish the fight in the ring its a tie!!!!!!
I’m all for not getting hit, I love watching Anderson Silva… but he stands in front of guys and they can’t hit him.
Condit definitely won, but he was running all night. Diaz is a fighter who above all else wants to fight!!! And apparently Condit cares more about winning a decision than fighting!
I gained a lot of respect for Diaz this fight (especially if he really retires!)
I just hate this crap, too much running. Werdum ran a lot too. And pierce clearly one, even Stevie Wonder knows that.
i can not see people paying to watch the GSP vs Condit fight, two back peddlers, the Diaz and Condit was advertised at the two top best p4p welters in the world and clearly this did not live up to its hype, when you have two fighters of this caliber fighting for the gold you expect nothing less than a good tear up, that way there is no excuses in regards to a loss and it makes a bold statement in the division.
this fight had to be great to live up to the hype, and it never, i have never missed a UFC fight Card – however as a customer and a fan – the fact that he implemented that tactic with in the last three rounds, after realizing that diaz does have some power and can take what he has to offer – i cant believe that Condit would do that after speaking in the prime time series that he will knock him out, diaz cant take what il dish out, il stand and trade – and yet he never once tryed to implement what he said through out the series, that night i heard angry chants, i saw people leave and from a crowd that was once approx 50 stronghold appeared to be less than 14 by round four – i wanted to leave my self but i could only hope that there would have been a tear up in the last round, hoping that Condit would some how grow a pair and entertain the masses –
HOWEVER i think DANA WHITE should order a REMATCH for Condit and Diaz before Condit and GSP – make it right and give it to the fans – there are no injurys with any fighter so maybe get it back on for MARCH OR APRIL
Back peddlars…more hurt feelings? Fighters win and lose, accept it…or quit like Diaz.
I respect the comments that have been made but supposidly the decision depends on fours key factors…
aggression=Diaz every round 5-0
octogon control (defined as standing in the middle of the octagon)=Diaz every round 5-0
Striking= Condit did land more strikes each round, minus round 1 4-1 Condit
Grappling= Condit refused to tie up/go to the ground. The only significant grappling was displayed in round 5 with Diaz taking the back for 2 minutes. Diaz 1-0
I still have a problem when we say Carlos was not running. I know it was strategy but there were times when carlos actually turned his back and ran. I am willing to give Carlos round 3 and 4 for his striking (It was impressive). This being said, you must give Nick
round one or call it a draw = Nick was far more aggressive and contolled the octagon.
Round 2- Diaz was far more aggressive, landed strikes, controlled the octagon and had Carlos on the run.
Rouind 3 + 4 = Carlos landed some excellent strikes and controled some of the action.
Round 5 = Diaz He took the back, locked in a body triangle and attempted to finish the fight for almost 2 and a half minutes. By far the closest either fighter came to a victory.
47-46 Diaz or a draw at worst. I feel this is a black eye for the UFC and for ther first time in my life I agree with(+understand) what Diaz has said in an interview :)
Sorry 48-47 Diaz :)
Thing is Diaz was desperate by the end of the fight trying to take it to the groung. he just got outboxed by Condit. He need to suck it up and come back like he did with Noons.maybe he’ll get a rematch.
@ kaka:
Ahh…when was Diaz ever “outboxed” during that fight? I suspect you mean “out-kicked”, right?
I really liked your breakdown but i think this is the biggest mistake by most people who think diaz won that fight
OCTAGON CONTROL IS NOT TAKING THE CENTER OF THE OCTAGON!
UFC EXACT RULES: J. Octagon Control 1. The fighter who is dictating the pace, place and position of the fight. 2. A striker who fends off a grappler’s takedown attempt to remain standing and effectively strike is octagon control. 3. A grappler who can takedown an effective standing striker to ground fight is octagon control. 4. The fighter on the ground who creates submission, mount or clean striking opportunities
1. The fighter who is dictating the pace, place and position of the fight.
Nick Diaz: wanted to stand and trade OR push conduit up against the cage, except for the barrage in rnd 2 and the takedown at the end of rnd 5 THIS WAS NOT THE CASE.
Conduit: wanted to stick and move and not get caught up against the cage, did not want to stay in front of diaz what so ever.
and what happened? he had Diaz chasing him all over the ring eating MORE shots. When diaz finally got him backed into the cage he dipped the punch and brought the fight back to the middle. He was making Diaz fight his game and even worse Diaz did not do a thing to try and change it up to stop him.
Thus by your own system someone under the same rules could easily judge it this way.
aggression=Diaz every round 5-0
octogon control (defined as standing in the middle of the octagon)=Conduit every round 5-0
Striking= Condit did land more strikes each round, minus round 1 4-1 Condit
Grappling= Condit refused to tie up/go to the ground. The only significant grappling was displayed in round 5 with Diaz taking the back for 2 minutes. Diaz 1-0
I personally was a diaz fan (tho i hate nate he sucks) and wanted to see Diaz + GSP. But i really dont see how he won that fight. coming forward like that and letting him escape everytime while eating ever type of strike imaginable doesnt win a fight for me. I agree with the decision (tho not the actual scores for each)
Octagon control is not about fighting where you want to fight. Its about moving forward and controlling the center of the ring.
Which was obviously Diaz. I think Condit won, he just did with a hit and run method! Which was more offensive than the real crime, you have fans paying to watch a fight, and Diaz put in a lot of time training.
If Diaz had run after Condit, I bet they would have ran circles in the octagon for 25 mins!!!
Who won?
Read and you would know
HaHaHahahaha!!!
Nick has had a ery poor history with fights going to decision in the UFC.
Dana White is the real Ref.
If the UFC wants to remain the top fighting org in the business they should implement the yellow card rule Pride and some other orginizations have.
I stopped whatching the UFC PPV now that I have HDNet. The smaller orginizations fights are much better and are free.
So your not watching UFC anymore…thanks for the heads up buddy.
With respect to everyone’s opinion it’s a prize fight with rules established. Condit won by fighting in the rules. He had a strategy and executed it. Diaz didn’t adapt because he couldn’t, he should have forced the fight,whenever he caught Condit, Condit would trade a little then get out of the fence. That’s smart he couldn’t trade with Diaz so he fought his fight. Not every fight is gonna be a brawl, Ali fought with his sick and move and no one says he ran. From a
technical standpoint Condit fought a great fight. You fight to win.
It doesn’t matter who GSP fights it will sell… And I think it could end up being a good one
I agree and i hope he has the mentality he had before he had the belt, he is a different fighter when defending the belt, still highly skilled.
So Condit is SUPPOSED to stand right in front of Diaz and fight to Diaz’s strength? As far as ‘octogon control’, it was Condit that controlled everything. His sticking and moving was not unlike an Ali floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee. Condit OUTSTRUCT the striker in almost every round. Diaz should learn how to cut of the ring and engage. He tried to bait Condit in fighting his kind of fight and it didn’t work. So what did he do? Mugged around and talked and lost the fight. As far as GSP is concerned, he simply wins fights. And in the end that’s the whole point now isn’t it.
A lot of fighters don’t like the new run and wrestle for points style (GSP and now Condit), they have voiced there opinions. Also that UFC is geared towards a wrestler (b/c you can’t knee on the ground). Aside from that I believe it was a close match and Diaz won b/c he was the aggressor. I also hate when commentators are close to the judges tables and could somehow convince them of there decision, Joe Rogan is notorious for that. He always leans towards his favorite fighter, pay attention the replay. A typical example is the Nate Diaz vs Gray Manard match, Nate Diaz clearly won and busted up Manards face however Rogan kept on commentating that Nates punches were weak. After the fight Nate got upset and mentioned that the commentating affected his decision and look at his face(not one scratch) and Maynards which was busted up. Similarly this happend at the Diaz vs Condit match. I hate Joe Rogan and he plays favourites.
Your crazy man, the judges don’t hear what rogan says (and he loves the Diaz bros).
Plus I heard on the mma hour that 2 of the judges that scored the fight 4 to 1 had Diaz winning the 3rd! And NO ONE including rogan had Diaz winning that rnd.
Just goes to show you how “off” these MMA judges can be man.
Two judges awarding Diaz the 3rd, but only one of them giving him the 2nd, a round in which he clearly out-struck and pressured Condit throughout (his best round of the fight actually).
It’s all quite ridiculous if you ask me. You have to wonder what they actually see/think during the fight as they’re putting down 10′s & 9′s in those little boxes, lol.
Yeah, I could be wrong but don’t they have monitors? I just find the variability from 1 judge to another doesn’t make sense.
The judges do not have monitors.
Are we still talking about this?
Excellent stuff Bryan.
Very close- by the numbers Condit won. Aggression wise Diaz won. No other fighter I can remember acted like such a chump when the decision didn’t go his way. And as a champion of MMA you should at least understand the sport so I’m glad Diaz did not win. He should understand that blindly rushing forward and missing for 3 quarters of a fight will not get a win. It took 4 full rounds before the very slow mind of Diaz clued in to the fact he should switch it up…throw some kicks…take it to the ground. I don’t get why its such a controversy. Even if Condit did fight not to lose…do you Diaz fans honestly believe Nick turned in a stellar performance and hands down deserves the victory? At least Condit has a little class and variety in his style. He will give GSP an interesting fight. Diaz would just walk forward with the same style right into a GSP double leg takedown…
If we flipped this and had Diaz used condit’s gameplan and Carlos ran him down the whole fight how many Diaz haters would be saying ‘great gameplan’? I think everybody would be sh!tting all over him for saying he was going to fight and then being ‘strategic.’ But when condit did it it wasn’t as bad because he’s a good guy and a sportsman. I like both fighters a lot and I thought condit won a close decision.
The way nick acted at the decision wasn’t that bad, I think that’s better than saying some sports cliche line. With all the contrived interviews in so many sports it’s refreshing to hear someone say what they think.
It wasn’t very refreshing for me to hear Diaz say he quits, but the way he said it was worse…sour grapes.
As someone who has been watching UFC since its beginning I have to say that Condit executed his strategy to perfection.
Condit and his trainers knew that if he talked crap and called out Diaz before the fight, that Diaz would get all worked up and want to go in and stand toe to toe and slug it out. But when it came time to fight Condit had another plan of attack in mind for Diaz. To stick and move.
You have to fight to your strengths and exploit your opponent’s weakness’. Condit knew it would be suicide for him to go in and stand in the middle trading blows with Diaz. He had to outthink him (which shouldn’t be too hard) and outfight him, and he did both. He continued to work Diaz’s body and legs while parrying his flurries and making sure he didn’t get trapped in the corner. Diaz became obviously frustrated and didn’t know what to do.
As someone else had mentioned it took him four full rounds to start changing his game plan, and by then it was too late. He was outboxed and outcoached. Cesar Gracie is a legendary coach, but for him to not change the gameplan and to still be telling Diaz he is winning going into the final rounds is moronic.
Both announcers and all three refs had Condit winning the fight, so I don’t see where the controversy is. As Bryan said, I thought UFC 123 was much more controversial. Even Rampage thought he had lost the fight.
I guess a lot of Diaz’s fans are just as obtuse as he his though. And the way he acted after the fight was just embarrassing. I have never seen a grown man act like such a poor sport. He’s like the kid crying and blaming his teammates after losing a game.
I hope he does retire. Then he can start the next chapter of his life.
The road to the prison boxing championship.That wasn’t necessary. -BSBiz
Carlos won, in what has become true Jackson camp fashion.
It’s just disheartening to see a fighter turn his back and run, as a tactic.
Say the fight is going to be a war and then go in and run away almost the entire fight..where I come from people like that get slapped
Little side remark. Most of you talk about aggression and running. have you guy actually looked at their faces after the fight?
Diaz’ was messed up all over. Condit had one swelling under his right eye from one single punch.
While we all like a good brawl and blood and guts anyday, it was refreshing to see a clean, technical fight, during which one guy outmoved the other and, very much like Ali, also landed the much clearer shots or better, kicks. This was very much Frazier vs Ali and Frazier could not impose his style upon Ali. MMA is fascinating, because so many different fighting styles and techniques are required.
Condit fought the smarter fight, landed the clearer and more shots, showed much more diverse techniques and was gracious in victory.
Diaz was one-dimensional, more aggressive and emotional and lost the fight due to lack of smarts. Sorry. Judgement was fair this time.
I wish I could’ve been here earlier to ask Tim larner how you call condit a back pedaler?? Have you over seen him fight one other time in you life!! And there is no chance of a rematch. Lastly sounds like you watch with a bunch of other people who don’t know what they’re talking about. That fight was very exciting and had 200 people in my bar on their feet and yelling the whole way.
Dan where you come from is where fans complain and favorite fighters get beat down. Condit would murder your 10 hardest friends at the same time.
All you whiners, let’s make this clear, condit spent just enough more time punching your hero in the face, than he did backing out of corners and frustrating miss diaz. No one has even brought up that your self proclaimed best boxer in the universe was getting beaten so bad that we was grasping for take downs by round 4. Do the world a favor and stop complaining about this fight!!
Bryan, not that you read these comments, but good stuff, however you think the ufc IS GOING TO MAKE US WAIT NINE MONTHS?? Lol. not that you or I really know what’s gonna happen, but I def don’t see them waiting nine months til November for condit’s next fight. If Gsp isn’t going to be ready by summer than we need a fight in between.
Devin, I do read the comments, but only if they are nice to me.
Regarding the wait for Condit, unless there is a rematch and no delay in GSP’s ETA (November), I do think they’ll have him wait that long. Condit earned this opportunity, and it seems he does not want to take another fight before fighting GSP.
Ha ;) well I guess if the news is true then we were both in for a little surprise…condit/diaz 2… Oh brother.