On Thursday evening, news broke that Miguel Torres was being released from the UFC. Dana White announced in an interview with Sports Illustrated that the former WEC champion was being cut from the organization due to a tweet that Torres posted the day before.
In the interview, White mentioned that he was being interviewed by a Canadian reporter, who referenced the tweet, which left White speechless. Following that interview, White then had a member of his staff talk with Miguel, who stated the tweet was a joke, and is a quote from a television show. White’s staff member then relayed this to White, who then released Torres from the organization.
The problem with all of this is not the premise of releasing a fighter due to his behavior outside of the octagon. The problem with it is the premise of who is more important than what. The person who is making the inappropriate comment is considered more than what the comment is.
Over the last few weeks, rape has somehow become a popular reference for UFC fighters. It started with Forrest Griffin tweeting “Rape is the new missionary”.
Griffin was publicly criticized for the comment, and later apologized for his remark. He then went to a local crisis center for victims of rape, and tried to clear up the air regarding his statement. He said to White that he was watching television, switching to multiple news broadcasts, all of which were discussing a different victim of rape. Griffin then tweeted that statement, attempting to make light of how often the crime occurs.
This was apparently explained to White, who has since explained to media members this is why Griffin was not disciplined for his remarks.
The disconnect from Griffin to Torres, who were essentially doing the same act, is what is most confusing.
White seems to have an issue with Torres tweeting something he saw on television, but does not have a problem with Griffin tweeting something he saw on television.
A different instance regarding a controversial remark actually occurred the day of Torres’ original statement, in which Rashad Evans referenced the ongoing scandal taking place at Penn State involving Jerry Sandusky, who is being charged with multiple counts of sexual assault on underage children.
Evans, a former wrestler at Michigan State, was arguing with his UFC on FOX opponent, former Penn State wrestler Phil Davis, at the event’s press conference in Chicago.
Nearing the end of the event, the two got into a heated argument, discussing the possibility of either being knocked out. Evans ended the argument, stating “I’m gonna put those hands on you worse than that dude did on them other kids at Penn State!”
White stated in the interview with Sports Illustrated that he did not hear Evans’ comment, and was not even aware of what was said until hours after the press conference. Meanwhile, in the video of the press conference, White can clearly be seen laughing right next to Evans following his remark.
This all occurs while Evans is sitting directly next to Chael Sonnen, who has long been both praised and criticized for comments he has made over the last two years.
White states that Evans also came up to him following his remark, and said he was wrong and apologized. White then decided that Evans was not going to be punished for his actions.
Following Torres’ statement on Twitter, White did not even talk to Torres personally. He only used information that was given to him, and made a decision based on that information.
With so many examples of multiple comments, remarks, and insults being made without punishment, how is Torres supposed to know what is and is not allowed?
The UFC announced earlier this year they will give bonuses for fighters that use Twitter actively, specifically for the best tweets during a certain period of time. For a company that promotes their clients to use the social media website, a fighter being released for using the website only makes the decision even more puzzling.
Using the criteria given, putting the names Forrest Griffin, Rashad Evans, Chael Sonnen, and Miguel Torres together, not only is there a large difference in physical stature, but a large difference in media stature as well. Griffin and Evans are both winners of The Ultimate Fighter and former UFC light heavyweight champions. Sonnen is a former middleweight title challenger and Pay-Per-View headliner who could possibly be a part of the biggest rematch of the year in 2012 with Anderson Silva.
Meanwhile, Torres, himself a former champion, albeit in the now defunct WEC, fought on Facebook in his most recent fight at UFC 139 in November.
Which comes back to the apparent reasoning of the dismissal, with Torres being a much less popular fighter, being as confusing as the attempt to defend it by White.
White has long been criticized for his brash behavior towards the media and fans of the UFC. He has publicly called reporters words that rhyme with maggots and start with the letter ‘F’. He has also repeatedly called fans a word that rhymes with runt and starts with the letter ‘C’.
An organization can not be led by a person who makes these kinds of decisions on whether a fighter can be released for insensitive remarks, if that person is also making repeated insensitive remarks.
Just as consistency is the key for a fighter’s career and the success he or she may experience fighting, consistency has to be the key to determining whether that person has a career when not fighting.


So what was the twitter comment?
Nevermind…guess I should have clicked on the link in the first sentence.
Wow, I wish I lived in a word of puppies and sunshine like you do…
There is one more KEY difference you are forgetting between Griffin’s comment and Torres’s comment: timing.
See, Griffin made the comment first, it created a huge to-do, with a fair bit of backlash, that left Griffin backpedaling, apologizing, and trying to make things right for a bad, off-color comment.
Torres then did the same damn thing. Timing is everything. He knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that those types of comments were NOT going to fly after the Griffin Gaffe. And he tweeted it out anyway.
Just as the retaliation always draws the personal foul in the NFL, the second tweet is even more unforgivable than the first. You can argue a difference in physical stature, you can argue a difference in promotability, but ultimately it all comes down to Torres doing the exact thing that Griffin stirred the pot with, and doing less than a month after.
He’s an idiot. Plain and simple. He did this to himself, he gets to suffer the consequences. There is no larger issue here.
How was Rashad Evans’ timing okay, if timing is solely the issue?
I was focusing on Torres/Griffin there, since there’s had the most similarities: twitter, rape, public outcry.
With Evans it probably is going to be excused as a “heat of the moment trash talk” thing. Which I’m not sure I disagree with, since he was actually in the middle of something with Davis, whereas Torres was sitting around with his little mullet
and general greasinessthinking a rape joke on twitter would be HILARIOUS.Apples to oranges and all that.
The only difference between Torres and Evans’ comments is that one involved real victims and one does not. Actually, two differences. The other is that one comment involved children, and one involves women.
Putting something on twitter is just as easy as saying is out loud these days. I don’t buy “heat of the moment” at all.
“whereas Torres was sitting around with his little mullet and general greasiness”
really?
There is one more difference.
Evans comment did not denigrate the children, but the joke Torres made does denigrate women (ie, we’re all stupid sluts who would object to something called rape, but not the same thing called a “surprise”)
Shiny Happy:
You talk so far out of your backside, I’m surprised you’re able to keep food down…
Why don’t you try not being so bias about it.clearly you don’t like torres.bottom line is the punishment doesn’t fit the crime and you know it.stop trying to justify dana’s overreaction.i get your 3 strikes your out analogy but if it had been silva,jones edgar or a number of other fighters this wouldn’t have happened.so if you don’t think a fighters stature in the sport makes a difference then your the idiot!
that was meant for shiny happy person
Actually, I do like Torres, but he was an idiot on this.
I would also like to add that he has called reporters the “runt with a c” word (Loretta Hunt).
This will happen more till Dana White STFU his mouth with F and C words. I have never heard a president/CEO of a company swearing that frequent openly.
Dana has overstepped the region of “Boss” and into “Dictator ” ………. Hey Dana , if you are such the big cheese why didnt you buy the UFC yourself ? Oh , thats right you were just all talk until your friends bought the company and made you the mouth .
Yes, I cleaned that up. -BSBiz
and your the mouth in his moms basement ragging on a guy worth millions successfully bringing us and expanding the sport that we love i bet dana is deeply hurt you feel this way
You took a shot in the dark with that comment and missed man . Actually ,anyone who posts here on a regular basis knows I used to own a successful business for a number of years . I sold it to my competition , kinda like how the UFC buys smaller shows and raked in a ton of $$ . So now I get to lounge at home and be a mouth in my own home , play with my goodies and enjoy myself .
And I did it all on my own…..so …………………
well if the “runt with a c” word fits…………..
Also at the same time they are promoting this as sports all over the network and world. They are in anti bullying business too. Words coming from a president and his followers are kind of double standard.
Ending someones career seems way over the top. A six month to a yr. suspension seems harsh enough and sends a strong message. The UFC gives Leben a yr suspension after his 2nd banned substance offense , Sonnen has had legal and banned substance problems. Torres in comparison has had priors, cutting him seems wrong ..
If MMA is to keep growing and gaining a place among the biggest sports in the world, Zuffa is going to have to do something with Dana White
Nice write up. I completely agree that consistency is lacking in Dana whites management of the UFC. Not only in this instance either.
Take for example the fact that Dan Hardy can lose four straight fights and keep his job. Yet Fabrico Werdum loses only one fight to Junior Dos Santos and is then cut. Brandon Vera lost 6 out of 9 fights including a TKO loss to Werdum and he never got cut.
Also, John Fitch who hasn’t lost to anyone but the champ and is widely considered the number 2 welterweight in the world ends up fighting on undercards (94) and is made to fight against inferior opponents. Yet Michael Bisping hasn’t won any of his big fights except the one against Matt Hammil (and we all know that was a bunch of bs). He is widely considered an overrated fighter yet he gets to the coach the reality series and headlines or co-headlines all of his fight cards. Dana has said many times that it upsets him that Jon won’t fight Kos. Yet it was not an issue for Dana when Anderson Silva didn’t want to fight Machida.
Or lets take a look at Nate Marquardt being cut due to higher than acceptable testosterone levels even though he was working with the state athletic commission on getting the issue resolved and also the whole thing was really a mistake on his doctors part. Yet many other fighters who have tested positive are still fighting in the UFC one of which was mentioned in the above article.
That fighter of course being Chael Sonnen has pulled off all sorts of bs and is still with the UFC. He has had his issues with failing drug tests, making comments that are out of line, money laundering, and mortgage fraud. None of these things I mentioned were jokes they were all very serious. He isn’t just still fighting for the UFC he is like the new poster child for the organization.
Dana sometimes runs the company like a business and does what will make the most money and then sometimes he makes decisions based on his personal vendettas and whims. He likes to talk about the UFC like it is the NBA or NFL of MMA but you never hear about this kind of stuff when it comes to David Stern or Roger Goodell. There should be a UFC code of conduct and if a fighter breaks the rules there should be a punishment.
I appreciate everything Dana White has done for the sport and think he makes a lot of really good decisions as well but these type of things really piss me off.
Good points of reference, raffy.
Although, regarding Werdum, he was not cut from the UFC. That was the last fight on his contract, and he decided to sign elsewhere instead of re-sign with the UFC.
via wikipedia
After the loss Werdum’s contract was terminated by the UFC. Since Werdum was not contacted directly about the termination he had no idea he had been cut and initially denied the news of him no longer being in the UFC as just a rumor.
It all depends what source you use. Others state he was unable to come to terms on a new contract since he was 2-2 in four fights. Regardless, your points all still stand.
“Dana has said many times that it upsets him that Jon won’t fight Kos. Yet it was not an issue for Dana when Anderson Silva didn’t want to fight Machida. ”
Different weight classes. Refusing to fight someone at your own weight class is VERY different than refusing to jump up a weight class for the same reason.
@ everyone @shiny
In case you guys didn’t notice what Shiny just said, let me refresh you. “General greasiness” If that isn’t a PURELY RACIST COMMENT ABOUT MEXICANS than I don’t know what is. Come on bro. We haven’t had too many back and forths lately so please dont tell me to stop big brother (bsbiz). That sh*t is just plain RACISM, pure low class garbage talk.
I’ve already commented on that just not in this detail. Kinda lets ya get to know a person without wanting to get to know a person eh?
I wasn’t generalizing, I was commenting on my impressions of his appearance when I have seen him on tv. But way to project, boys.
apparently the mods thought the same thing. So maybe just maybe… your comment was racist. general or not. son.
If I was your son I’d be hanging from a ceiling fan
Only because I put you there because I don’t raise racist children.
Quit being an idiot and just man up for your statement. Whether your a full time racist with holes in your linens, or you just let one slip it was a mistake. Not everything can be buffed out or explained to be generic or blah blah blah. your statement was wrong for this site and wrong for a lot more than just that.
Just remember that a lot of the stuff you say is spot on and actually worth reading. This was not one of those times.
I guess we’ll be referring to Blacks, and Asians by their racist cliches too here now.
@bryan
Nice article man and i’m with you 100%.
I don’t see how anyone, including dana himself, can defend or justify the irrational decision to cut Miguel Torres for what he said on twitter. It’s beyond me.
Forrest said “rape is the new missionary”
Rashad made a stupid comment about something that actually happened to real people.
Bisping SPIT on rivera on a LIVE PPV
Frank Mir said brock was going to be the first death of mma
CHael sonnen <~~~enough said
Chris Leben cheated TWICE and both times he was MAIN event
But torres gets cut for his joke???????
Dana White is on a power trip. He shouldn't be allowed to just cut someone like that. He's a hypocrite and he has been inconsistent with everything for a very very long time.
This whole situation is bullshit and from what i've read and seen, the backlash is huge in defense of Miguel TOrres and I wouldn't be surprised if he takes that back and resigns torres. Remember what happened with the loretta hunt incident? He was apologizing very soon after because YES even the almighty dana has a boss…
You just never know with Dana, sometime he will laugh at the most offensive things, other times he may be having his PMS and go berserk. While I’ll admit that he does a lot for the sport, HE is also it’s worst enemy. It really destroys the sport’s credibility when the man in charge is a Vince McMahon wannabe. He has no consistency, what other fighters get away with he will fire another for. As a Torres fan this upsets me. I am not defending what he said in any way, but he should be punished either by fines or maybe suspension, like any respectable sports league would. I was previously on the fence about White, weighing the good with the bad, but this tips the scales for me and I will join the Dana Haters now…
Miguel Torres finally speaks out about getting cut
http://middleeasy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6617:miguel-torres-finally-speaks-out-about-being-cut-from-the-ufc&catid=34:organizations
Posted it in the forums as well
I don’t disagree with your writeup. But none of us know the circumstances behind any of these situations other than the ones described to us by Dana himself.
We also know that favoritism DOES exist in all sports and MMA is no exception.
Finally, as Dana said, it is all in the apology, really. It seems like some fighters know how to get themselves out of trouble and some don’t.
Maybe Dana makes these moves to keep everyone talking about the UFC…the PPV numbers are down.
It’s a shame that there is a double standard in the UFC. Guys like Forrest Griffin, Chael Sonnen, Rashard Evans, and Chris Leben can get away with saying and doing detrimental stuff but Miguel Torres gets crucified. Tragic!
This is what happens when you encourage your employees to use social media, who in an attempt to promote themselves, occasionally speak out of emotion and excitement, rather than rational thought and intelligence.
The correct answer in my opinion, is to set a code of conduct for your employees, then dish out punishment when that code of conduct is violated. This whole situation reeks of contradiction, hypocrisy, and favoritism.
This is the fight game, it’s not a tickling competition. I don’t expect everybody to be nice and be gentlemen. Sometimes it makes for good tv and is good for business. But there needs to be a line drawn and you can’t give one guy a warning and then fire the next one.
Sure, timing is an issue perhaps, but did Miguel know about Griffin’s and Rashad’s comments before he made his? And if he did, did he know they were issued warnings? Did Dana send an e-mail company wide warning of those situations and not to do it again? In Miguel’s defense, if he isn’t in the inner circle of Dana, Griffin or Rashad, how would he even know there were warnings? Since neither of them were fired, he might have assumed it was ok.
I’m not saying I agree or condone his actions, but lets set a standard and live by it instead of making decisions based on whims, ego, and the adrenaline he gets running the worlds best MMA promotion.
That’s well said Jason.
Recall Dana Whites commentary on Fox – instead of selling one of the biggest fights in MMA history, he sounded like he was selling a pasta maker with Ron Popeil (gotta calm down and sound professional).
When Anderson Silva was ‘winning’ in not so glamorous fights, he threatened to fire him (need to be more mature when referencing your best fighter(s)).
When Tito vs Chuck was pending on their last TUF season, clearly, Chuck (being the bigger B—H) had Dana’s greatest sympathy and Tito (who remained focused on training his fighters) got a nice see you later buddy upon hearing news of his injury (gotta at least pretend you aren’t impartial)
Dana has brought the UFC far, however, to make MMA a legit sport and win the respect of the country, it’ll take more than a ‘tough guy’.
One guy references a TV show and the other guys makes light of actual underage victims, and cut which guy!?! Personally I think any joke about rape is made by sh!t rats or rapists. Jokes about rape of children are even lower. Or maybe I’m missing the ‘intelligence’ these guys have, they were going for the 10,000 dollar bonus for most retweets. I call bullsh!t to the freedom of speech argument, these guys need to be held to a higher standard since they are role models for young people and the sport itself. The way Dana white handled this whole mess is infantile at best. Cut them all, fine them all, suspend them all, take their iPhones away for 2 weeks, whatever you see fit. Just be fuk!ng consistent instead of basing punishment on promotability–its like dana says ‘lets make a statement to the rich white guys who own fox by making an example of somebody, let’s throw the mexican who decision guys, under the bus’.
I wonder when will the Fertitas going to cut DW for being such a jerk…
Never, he’s their puppet.
Dana should rescind the decision and make an announcement to the fighters about what is appropriate. There’s too much inconsistency. He reminds me of Don King… screwing with peoples lives that he profits from.