Comments on: Matt Serra Needs Your Help To Help Get MMA Sanctioned In New York http://mmafrenzy.com/2456/matt-serra-needs-your-help-to-help-get-mma-sanctioned-in-new-york/ UFC and MMA News Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:15:59 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dominick http://mmafrenzy.com/2456/matt-serra-needs-your-help-to-help-get-mma-sanctioned-in-new-york/#comment-83367 Dominick Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:32:48 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2456#comment-83367 Are you kidding me?! MMA is by far safer than boxing ever was. How many MMA fighters have died hours after fighting? I can't even think of one. Now, how many boxer have ended up dying after they fight? I can think of 2 that happened this year alone! Dude give me a break, to compare the UFC and MMA to the WWE is utter bullshit. WWE is a joke, most of those guys wouldn't last 1 round with a true MMA fighter so for the sake of all that is holy don't ever compare Apples to oranges my friend. MMA is up and coming and for those of you who are too blind to see it, you need to step out of the way of the tracks and let the train come on through or get run over by it. Boxing is dead, no one gives a shit about it anymore, its full of corrupt assholes and lackluster fighters. Gone are the days of Ali, Frazier, Marciano. Everyone is a spoiled bitchy millionaires in boxing and its time to move on. Also, no one wants to take boxing away from anyone, they just want MMA to be sanctioned thats it. If you don't like MMA don't watch it, but don't try and be bullheaded about something that we enjoy or even participate it. If it were sanctioned in NY you would see a huge swing in participation and watching. Are you kidding me?! MMA is by far safer than boxing ever was. How many MMA fighters have died hours after fighting? I can’t even think of one. Now, how many boxer have ended up dying after they fight? I can think of 2 that happened this year alone! Dude give me a break, to compare the UFC and MMA to the WWE is utter bull****. WWE is a joke, most of those guys wouldn’t last 1 round with a true MMA fighter so for the sake of all that is holy don’t ever compare Apples to oranges my friend. MMA is up and coming and for those of you who are too blind to see it, you need to step out of the way of the tracks and let the train come on through or get run over by it. Boxing is dead, no one gives a **** about it anymore, its full of corrupt assholes and lackluster fighters. Gone are the days of Ali, Frazier, Marciano. Everyone is a spoiled ****y millionaires in boxing and its time to move on. Also, no one wants to take boxing away from anyone, they just want MMA to be sanctioned thats it. If you don’t like MMA don’t watch it, but don’t try and be bullheaded about something that we enjoy or even participate it. If it were sanctioned in NY you would see a huge swing in participation and watching.

]]> By: Dorothy Margaret Willis http://mmafrenzy.com/2456/matt-serra-needs-your-help-to-help-get-mma-sanctioned-in-new-york/#comment-36860 Dorothy Margaret Willis Tue, 13 May 2008 04:02:38 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2456#comment-36860 As a sixty two year old grandmother I greatly resent the statement about oldtimers being against MMA. I have spent at least $5,000.00 on the two most recent UFC events held in Ohio, since that is the closest venue to Illinois where I live. In 1976 My husband, brother, children, two friends and I traveled to New York for an event called "The Great American Horserace" a bicentenial event. We travelled in a one ton truck and a four horse gooseneck trailer with living quarters. If we went now it would be by a doublecab diesel truck. I have never been to Madison Square Garden but feel it would be a once in a lifetime dream for me and my family, and would well be worth the journey and expence. As a sixty two year old grandmother I greatly resent the statement about oldtimers being against MMA. I have spent at least $5,000.00 on the two most recent UFC events held in Ohio, since that is the closest venue to Illinois where I live. In 1976 My husband, brother, children, two friends and I traveled to New York for an event called “The Great American Horserace” a bicentenial event. We travelled in a one ton truck and a four horse gooseneck trailer with living quarters. If we went now it would be by a doublecab diesel truck. I have never been to Madison Square Garden but feel it would be a once in a lifetime dream for me and my family, and would well be worth the journey and expence.

]]> By: daman http://mmafrenzy.com/2456/matt-serra-needs-your-help-to-help-get-mma-sanctioned-in-new-york/#comment-36814 daman Mon, 12 May 2008 14:52:04 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2456#comment-36814 You're a good man Orlandomac...and I like your post on fighting. You’re a good man Orlandomac…and I like your post on fighting.

]]> By: Orlandomac http://mmafrenzy.com/2456/matt-serra-needs-your-help-to-help-get-mma-sanctioned-in-new-york/#comment-36701 Orlandomac Sun, 11 May 2008 04:57:41 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2456#comment-36701 Daman I can appreciate what you are saying but you are talking injuries versus deaths, there is no extensive list about boxing injuries because there isn't anough paper or enough funded workers to keep track of it. So please I can appreciate the fact that there are MMA injuries, actually I never claimed that there wasn't. Fact is that there is more football related deaths than there are MMA ones, but you are arguing with the wrong people.. we don't want to take boxing from you. As for the street fight any good fighter that I knew, and being in the nightlife entertainment business for a long time I knew a few. Were exceptional freestyle wrestlers.. who would fake a punch, shoot a quick single or double underneath it.. and ground and pund him out before he even knew what hit him.. then they would blend into the crowd and leave. Now I wasn't trying to condone street fighting, I was just trying to make you appreciate that boxing rules have little to do with the real world. There are many aspects to any fighter that could be successful with no rules present. MMA is the most elite fighting sport that could equate most to success in the street for someones defense. Now I know from experience that if you are in a bar situation the last thing you want to do is hit the ground, as any retard that has had two pints will kick you in the head for no reason. When faced with multiple attackers which is the case in most of club fights you need to keep them all in front of you.. aim for vitals if they get close.. keep them at distance with a Muay Thai or Kick Boxing arsenal that would include boxing but it would also include wrestling in the fashion of sprawling and brawling, not to mention some judo throws to freak the pack... This is what I have taught many to great affect. I have also always preached that you should stay out of a fight at all costs as weapons will deteriorate your odds dramatically.. and this includes projectiles.. a full water bottle in the head could knock you out from a distance. Number one is to always avoid a fight and there are many ways that I have taught to difuse things... but if you have no choice keep them in front.. bounce off them by pushing off.. and as soon as you can run to safety.. do so... as your odds of winning a fight against multiple attackers is extremely low. If you have to strike.. my suggestion is to hit the biggest mouth or the biggest dude.. because if you do it right.. by faking elsewhere and uncorking on that person with a jaw punch or head kick.. you will catch them by surprise and could knock them out because they weren't expecting it and had their guard down.. Doing that to either of those two will cause hesitancy in the group.. and it will allow you to get away. Stop surfing google to fight guys that share similar beliefs we aren't trying to take away boxing.. we are adding.. to the combative sports. We are brothers not enemies.. Daman I can appreciate what you are saying but you are talking injuries versus deaths, there is no extensive list about boxing injuries because there isn’t anough paper or enough funded workers to keep track of it.

So please I can appreciate the fact that there are MMA injuries, actually I never claimed that there wasn’t. Fact is that there is more football related deaths than there are MMA ones, but you are arguing with the wrong people.. we don’t want to take boxing from you.

As for the street fight any good fighter that I knew, and being in the nightlife entertainment business for a long time I knew a few. Were exceptional freestyle wrestlers.. who would fake a punch, shoot a quick single or double underneath it.. and ground and pund him out before he even knew what hit him.. then they would blend into the crowd and leave.

Now I wasn’t trying to condone street fighting, I was just trying to make you appreciate that boxing rules have little to do with the real world. There are many aspects to any fighter that could be successful with no rules present.

MMA is the most elite fighting sport that could equate most to success in the street for someones defense.

Now I know from experience that if you are in a bar situation the last thing you want to do is hit the ground, as any retard that has had two pints will kick you in the head for no reason.

When faced with multiple attackers which is the case in most of club fights you need to keep them all in front of you.. aim for vitals if they get close.. keep them at distance with a Muay Thai or Kick Boxing arsenal that would include boxing but it would also include wrestling in the fashion of sprawling and brawling, not to mention some judo throws to freak the pack…

This is what I have taught many to great affect.

I have also always preached that you should stay out of a fight at all costs as weapons will deteriorate your odds dramatically.. and this includes projectiles.. a full water bottle in the head could knock you out from a distance.

Number one is to always avoid a fight and there are many ways that I have taught to difuse things… but if you have no choice keep them in front.. bounce off them by pushing off.. and as soon as you can run to safety.. do so… as your odds of winning a fight against multiple attackers is extremely low.

If you have to strike.. my suggestion is to hit the biggest mouth or the biggest dude.. because if you do it right.. by faking elsewhere and uncorking on that person with a jaw punch or head kick.. you will catch them by surprise and could knock them out because they weren’t expecting it and had their guard down..

Doing that to either of those two will cause hesitancy in the group.. and it will allow you to get away.

Stop surfing google to fight guys that share similar beliefs we aren’t trying to take away boxing.. we are adding.. to the combative sports.

We are brothers not enemies..

]]> By: daman http://mmafrenzy.com/2456/matt-serra-needs-your-help-to-help-get-mma-sanctioned-in-new-york/#comment-36658 daman Sat, 10 May 2008 15:31:09 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2456#comment-36658 NY may have to wait, there is just not enough information out there to study the effects of MMA, but they are starting to come in. How much in the early days was reported? There is enough banter and recycled verbatim about the MMA without critical thinking, and that's the problem. Boxing fans admit what's wrong with their sport, MMA fans are gathered around the book burning bonfires. So please invoke other sports so that every time I look up for some boxing news in Google some Affliction loving slob on blog doe not pop up. The Bloody elbows or whatever is the worse. One small point, the whole " this boxing guy fights a MMA guy in a street fight", has anybody gotten in a street fight like an MMA match? Try doing those ground moves and try not to cut yourself or get hurt. Real fighting is unpredictable and I'm willing to bet a lot of those NFL guys would destroy a majority of MMA guys by sheer power. The point is to have a sport right? Dana White makes Don King look like a saint. Injury Trends In Sanctioned Mixed Martial Arts Competition: A Five-Year Review 2002-2007. The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine Department of Emergency Medicine, United States ...However, there is limited information regarding the incidence of competition injuries following sanctioning by an athletic ...Additional study is warranted to achieve a better understanding of injury trends and ways to further lower injury risk in MMA. No holds barred sport fighting: a 10 year review of mixed martial arts competition. Cannon USAF Clinics, Aerospace/Preventive Medicine, Clovis, NM 88103, USA Further research is warranted to delineate the morbidity associated with participation in mixed martial arts. NY may have to wait, there is just not enough information out there to study the effects of MMA, but they are starting to come in. How much in the early days was reported? There is enough banter and recycled verbatim about the MMA without critical thinking, and that’s the problem. Boxing fans admit what’s wrong with their sport, MMA fans are gathered around the book burning bonfires. So please invoke other sports so that every time I look up for some boxing news in Google some Affliction loving slob on blog doe not pop up. The Bloody elbows or whatever is the worse. One small point, the whole ” this boxing guy fights a MMA guy in a street fight”, has anybody gotten in a street fight like an MMA match? Try doing those ground moves and try not to cut yourself or get hurt. Real fighting is unpredictable and I’m willing to bet a lot of those NFL guys would destroy a majority of MMA guys by sheer power. The point is to have a sport right?

Dana White makes Don King look like a saint.

Injury Trends In Sanctioned Mixed Martial Arts Competition: A Five-Year Review 2002-2007.

The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine Department of Emergency Medicine, United States

…However, there is limited information regarding the incidence of competition injuries following sanctioning by an athletic
…Additional study is warranted to achieve a better understanding of injury trends and ways to further lower injury risk in MMA.

No holds barred sport fighting: a 10 year review of mixed martial arts competition.

Cannon USAF Clinics, Aerospace/Preventive Medicine, Clovis, NM 88103, USA
Further research is warranted to delineate the morbidity associated with participation in mixed martial arts.

]]> By: Orlandomac http://mmafrenzy.com/2456/matt-serra-needs-your-help-to-help-get-mma-sanctioned-in-new-york/#comment-36614 Orlandomac Fri, 09 May 2008 21:50:41 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2456#comment-36614 Daman MMA is not for boxing enthusiats, and no one is trying to take boxing from you, the comparison is strictly on the merits of a sanctioned sport versus a non-sanctioned one, both of which are fighting sports. That is why the argument is made, the fact is that MMA fans don't want boxing banned, they want MMA sanctioned. As for medical journals, I did check a few when I researched the article and had statistics from several most notably the Journal of Combative Sports which was published in Novemenber 2007. The Report stated that there have been 751 recorded deaths in the USA alone, 91 of which were in New York State. In the last bunch of years alone there has been 527 deaths (worldwide) since July 2000. In my research I have only found one fighter that has died because of injuries sustained in a MMA match, which was the death of Sam Vasquez on November 30, 2007. I could think of 526 more good reasons that boxing should be banned over MMA. My question is if you hate MMA so much then why are you on a purely MMA site? The entrance sign is clearly marked MMA Frenzy, lol. As a former boxing fan, I have rarely watched a fight of late bar a few, talk about WWE tactics you ever hear of Don King? The product is just not that enjoyable anymore, as punching alone won't save you in the real world, so for me it comes off as fighting neutered. Besides they wear their belts so high the only place you can punch them is in the head, but I wouldn't want it banned. With every sport their are risks and their are Commissions in each state that focus on fighter safety, but to say yes to one and not the other is ridiculous. In Ontario's case even boxing is rare because of the draconian restrictions. As for boxing I just wouldn't watch it, and I am a former boxer. All I see boxing as now is one element out of many that you have to train in to become a superior fighter. Put Mouth Mayweather on the street to fight Anderson, and that would probably be one of the last times you would hear from him, not to mention he wouldn't be as pretty as boxing has allowed him to be. Daman MMA is not for boxing enthusiats, and no one is trying to take boxing from you, the comparison is strictly on the merits of a sanctioned sport versus a non-sanctioned one, both of which are fighting sports. That is why the argument is made, the fact is that MMA fans don’t want boxing banned, they want MMA sanctioned.

As for medical journals, I did check a few when I researched the article and had statistics from several most notably the Journal of Combative Sports which was published in Novemenber 2007.

The Report stated that there have been 751 recorded deaths in the USA alone, 91 of which were in New York State.

In the last bunch of years alone there has been 527 deaths (worldwide) since July 2000.

In my research I have only found one fighter that has died because of injuries sustained in a MMA match, which was the death of Sam Vasquez on November 30, 2007.

I could think of 526 more good reasons that boxing should be banned over MMA.

My question is if you hate MMA so much then why are you on a purely MMA site? The entrance sign is clearly marked MMA Frenzy, lol.

As a former boxing fan, I have rarely watched a fight of late bar a few, talk about WWE tactics you ever hear of Don King?

The product is just not that enjoyable anymore, as punching alone won’t save you in the real world, so for me it comes off as fighting neutered. Besides they wear their belts so high the only place you can punch them is in the head, but I wouldn’t want it banned. With every sport their are risks and their are Commissions in each state that focus on fighter safety, but to say yes to one and not the other is ridiculous.

In Ontario’s case even boxing is rare because of the draconian restrictions.

As for boxing I just wouldn’t watch it, and I am a former boxer. All I see boxing as now is one element out of many that you have to train in to become a superior fighter.

Put Mouth Mayweather on the street to fight Anderson, and that would probably be one of the last times you would hear from him, not to mention he wouldn’t be as pretty as boxing has allowed him to be.

]]> By: Faixa Roxa http://mmafrenzy.com/2456/matt-serra-needs-your-help-to-help-get-mma-sanctioned-in-new-york/#comment-36610 Faixa Roxa Fri, 09 May 2008 21:20:19 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2456#comment-36610 daman = ignorant daman = ignorant

]]> By: John Blaze http://mmafrenzy.com/2456/matt-serra-needs-your-help-to-help-get-mma-sanctioned-in-new-york/#comment-36592 John Blaze Fri, 09 May 2008 19:12:25 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2456#comment-36592 I do not really care I would rather watch MMA on TV anyways... I do not really care I would rather watch MMA on TV anyways…

]]> By: mike, troy NY http://mmafrenzy.com/2456/matt-serra-needs-your-help-to-help-get-mma-sanctioned-in-new-york/#comment-36588 mike, troy NY Fri, 09 May 2008 18:50:16 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2456#comment-36588 daman your a retard...for one nascar and i hate to say this but is the most watched sport in america, so how could it be the fastest growing if its already at the top dumb ass....and 2 thats the most rediculous thing i ever heard, you saying mma is almost like the wwe...and 3 boxing is about to die in about ummm idk less then 5 yrs so stop being stupid with your comments daman your a retard…for one nascar and i hate to say this but is the most watched sport in america, so how could it be the fastest growing if its already at the top dumb ass….and 2 thats the most rediculous thing i ever heard, you saying mma is almost like the wwe…and 3 boxing is about to die in about ummm idk less then 5 yrs so stop being stupid with your comments

]]> By: Fitdaws http://mmafrenzy.com/2456/matt-serra-needs-your-help-to-help-get-mma-sanctioned-in-new-york/#comment-36582 Fitdaws Fri, 09 May 2008 17:35:27 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2456#comment-36582 Who says Serra should get a rematch even if Ny sanctioned fighting. I like Serra, but he got quickly destroyed there last fight. He would have to prove himself again in order to fight GSP in the near future. Who says Serra should get a rematch even if Ny sanctioned fighting. I like Serra, but he got quickly destroyed there last fight. He would have to prove himself again in order to fight GSP in the near future.

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