Comments on: Tito Ortiz: Juanito Ibarra Is A Thief http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/ UFC and MMA News Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:38:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: c http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-2/#comment-65184 c Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:19:23 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-65184 Tito has no crediablity! Why listen to him? Tito has no crediablity! Why listen to him?

]]> By: angel http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-2/#comment-65176 angel Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:08:24 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-65176 Tito does know what he is talking about. He was not at camp and does know the details. He doesn't know what a professional camp cost because he doesn't treat his sparring partners the way Team Rampage did. He does not insure them incase they get injured. He doesn't provided a professional chef, food, gas money, top payment to all the fighters [yes fighters are paid] and coachers. Three houses to sleep all. What really happened is that Rampage OVER spent! Juanito warned him about the cost, but he did not want to let anyone go home. So the budget blown. All of you can say what you want but the true THEIF is Rampage. He is spreading lies and stealing the TRUTH. Juanito has working hard for Rampage but he needed to blame someone else. Rampage is a coward. Tito does know what he is talking about. He was not at camp and does know the details. He doesn’t know what a professional camp cost because he doesn’t treat his sparring partners the way Team Rampage did. He does not insure them incase they get injured. He doesn’t provided a professional chef, food, gas money, top payment to all the fighters [yes fighters are paid] and coachers. Three houses to sleep all. What really happened is that Rampage OVER spent! Juanito warned him about the cost, but he did not want to let anyone go home. So the budget blown. All of you can say what you want but the true THEIF is Rampage. He is spreading lies and stealing the TRUTH. Juanito has working hard for Rampage but he needed to blame someone else. Rampage is a coward.

]]> By: Dietrich http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-62408 Dietrich Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:56:14 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-62408 Best laugh in 3 days thanks to all the posters.... Best laugh in 3 days thanks to all the posters….

]]> By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61952 Justin Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:22:57 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61952 DrDoom, No, not a defense lawyer, I just believe in self-responsibility, and free market capitalism. DrDoom,

No, not a defense lawyer, I just believe in self-responsibility, and free market capitalism.

]]> By: Dr Doom http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61947 Dr Doom Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:10:46 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61947 justin seems to be a defense lawyer . Why don't help KJ with his fraud case?he's pretending to be champ right now hehe Just kidding justin seems to be a defense lawyer .

Why don’t help KJ with his fraud case?he’s pretending to be champ right now hehe

Just kidding

]]> By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61938 Justin Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:13:37 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61938 I feel like the value of a camp is whatever you're willing to pay for it. If Ibarra wants to charge 65k, and Rampage wants to pay 65k they're adults and can do what they want. Now if Ibarra told Rampage something along the lines of that being a going rate, and that's not true, its Rampage's dumb fault for not looking around. I think Ibarra did ok as a trainer for Rampage, but Rampage brought a lot to the table himself. They sucked it up on TUF though. I feel like the value of a camp is whatever you’re willing to pay for it. If Ibarra wants to charge 65k, and Rampage wants to pay 65k they’re adults and can do what they want. Now if Ibarra told Rampage something along the lines of that being a going rate, and that’s not true, its Rampage’s dumb fault for not looking around. I think Ibarra did ok as a trainer for Rampage, but Rampage brought a lot to the table himself. They sucked it up on TUF though.

]]> By: timcat http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61878 timcat Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:05:29 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61878 Hey KOuch, Tell us how you really feel about Tito. Hey KOuch,
Tell us how you really feel about Tito.

]]> By: KOuch http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61875 KOuch Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:02:09 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61875 I've said a million times that Tito is a terrible buiness man and moron. That was before Dana ever started proving my views true. Tito is an idiot and cannot be taken seriously. He is like a politician how he distorts exagerates and lies. I’ve said a million times that Tito is a terrible buiness man and moron. That was before Dana ever started proving my views true. Tito is an idiot and cannot be taken seriously. He is like a politician how he distorts exagerates and lies.

]]> By: KOuch http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61874 KOuch Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:00:36 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61874 I'm DANDY! I just don't forget anything. That being said, I will never forget the 38yr old unmarried scumbag who was attemtping to give life and TAKE ADVANTAGE OF RAMPAGE! Venemous? Perhaps.....in my own way. I’m DANDY! I just don’t forget anything. That being said, I will never forget the 38yr old unmarried scumbag who was attemtping to give life and TAKE ADVANTAGE OF RAMPAGE! Venemous? Perhaps…..in my own way.

]]> By: timcat http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61840 timcat Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:47:23 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61840 Just joe, Couture charges $400.00 an hour for MMA classes. He probably charges abou 40,000 for camps. Just joe,

Couture charges $400.00 an hour for MMA classes. He probably charges abou 40,000 for camps.

]]> By: ALL_VICTIM http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61769 ALL_VICTIM Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:03:44 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61769 Dr Doom LMAO!!! I'm in for that :) Dr Doom

LMAO!!!

I’m in for that :)

]]> By: Dr Doom http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61762 Dr Doom Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:44:40 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61762 Hey .i got a camp ...... we can throw paintcans ... pee in a bucket and roast marshmellows . Then we get wasted ,put on boxing gloves and beat the sh!t out of each other . bring on the champ baby ! now can I get 50 grand ? Hey .i got a camp …… we can throw paintcans … pee in a bucket and roast marshmellows . Then we get wasted ,put on boxing gloves and beat the sh!t out of each other . bring on the champ baby ! now can I get 50 grand ?

]]> By: sam http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61691 sam Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:42:46 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61691 Ibarra can charge any price he wants. Just because Tito charges 35k, does not mean Ibarra has to charge that. Ibarra led Rampage to title, and has trained De La Hoya. Who's seeking out Tito's camp? Ibarra can charge any price he wants. Just because Tito charges 35k, does not mean Ibarra has to charge that. Ibarra led Rampage to title, and has trained De La Hoya. Who’s seeking out Tito’s camp?

]]> By: ALL_VICTIM http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61663 ALL_VICTIM Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:57:16 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61663 Go Tito speak your mine Tito is not scared to speak out like some others I would like to hear what Rampage thinks Go Tito speak your mine

Tito is not scared to speak out like some others

I would like to hear what Rampage thinks

]]> By: DolfanG http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61660 DolfanG Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:51:41 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61660 seemed seemed

]]> By: DolfanG http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61659 DolfanG Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:51:07 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61659 KOuch, Hey buddy... Is everything OK? I'm just asking because your last post emmed a bit more venemous than it might have needed to be... 38yr old scumbag... a bastard... Have you had anything to eat today? As far as Rampage is concerned, I really like this guy. I hope the whole case against him gets settled without him having to serve time, but we'll have to wait and see. Rampage was charged more for his camp than Tito charges... Rampage has won championships while Kendel Grove and Matt Hamill have been coming up a bit short. Arnold Darkshner said it best... Is there a preset, universally agreed to price for camps? Is Ibarra price gouging because a hurricane is coming? I don't see where theft enters the picture. Zac is also right when he said what he said. Theft is when a person takes something against the owners wishes. Theft is not when a person charges more for something than somebody else. Tito talks like a teenager. The shy is falling!!! The sky is falling!!! Relax. Rampage made a decision and it's done. We'll see what his new camp can do for him, but I wonder why he didn't go to Tito's camp? KOuch,

Hey buddy… Is everything OK? I’m just asking because your last post emmed a bit more venemous than it might have needed to be… 38yr old scumbag… a bastard… Have you had anything to eat today?

As far as Rampage is concerned, I really like this guy. I hope the whole case against him gets settled without him having to serve time, but we’ll have to wait and see.

Rampage was charged more for his camp than Tito charges… Rampage has won championships while Kendel Grove and Matt Hamill have been coming up a bit short. Arnold Darkshner said it best… Is there a preset, universally agreed to price for camps? Is Ibarra price gouging because a hurricane is coming? I don’t see where theft enters the picture. Zac is also right when he said what he said. Theft is when a person takes something against the owners wishes. Theft is not when a person charges more for something than somebody else. Tito talks like a teenager. The shy is falling!!! The sky is falling!!! Relax. Rampage made a decision and it’s done. We’ll see what his new camp can do for him, but I wonder why he didn’t go to Tito’s camp?

]]> By: KOuch http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61638 KOuch Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:57:53 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61638 Rutdog, Some 38yr old scumbag unmarried lady was bringing a bastard into the world and blamed Rampage for her miscarriage. Apparently Rampage side swiped her new Escalade and she blamed that for her miscarriage.My problem was she took too much time to come forth with her BS.....anyway....old news...I just never forget anything. Rutdog,

Some 38yr old scumbag unmarried lady was bringing a bastard into the world and blamed Rampage for her miscarriage. Apparently Rampage side swiped her new Escalade and she blamed that for her miscarriage.My problem was she took too much time to come forth with her BS…..anyway….old news…I just never forget anything.

]]> By: JustJoe http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61617 JustJoe Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:30:23 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61617 How much does Couture charge? Anybody know? How much does Couture charge? Anybody know?

]]> By: zac http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61577 zac Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:54:45 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61577 yea...how do you blame Ibarra for charging a fee on top of what Tito charges for camp. This is usually how it works when someone has a "Manager" or "Agent" or anything else like that. Maybe he charged him a lot, but its one thing if Rampage paid and did not ask, and entirely different if Rampage asked but was lied to. yea…how do you blame Ibarra for charging a fee on top of what Tito charges for camp. This is usually how it works when someone has a “Manager” or “Agent” or anything else like that. Maybe he charged him a lot, but its one thing if Rampage paid and did not ask, and entirely different if Rampage asked but was lied to.

]]> By: Art V http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61554 Art V Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:56:15 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61554 juanito seems to be a snake tito said his part now what does rampage have to say rampage/wanderlei rampage first round juanito seems to be a snake tito said his part now what does rampage have to say rampage/wanderlei rampage first round

]]> By: Us and Chuck http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61547 Us and Chuck Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:34:22 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61547 Are you kidding !!! I love that hat. Got to say don't care for Tito and his attitude the man is an attention seeker but he has a point the price seems a very excessive to me and having seen the facilities on UFC 86 preview show how can he charge 65k ? Are you kidding !!!

I love that hat.

Got to say don’t care for Tito and his attitude the man is an attention seeker but he has a point the price seems a very excessive to me and having seen the facilities on UFC 86 preview show how can he charge 65k ?

]]> By: kelvin http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61546 kelvin Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:34:16 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61546 tito is an idiot and shouldn't open his mouth anymore except to apologize to all the fans for his latest crappy performances tito is an idiot and shouldn’t open his mouth anymore except to apologize to all the fans for his latest crappy performances

]]> By: al3ino http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61536 al3ino Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:54:08 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61536 I always hated Ibarras choice of hat - now this is one more thing to annoy me I always hated Ibarras choice of hat - now this is one more thing to annoy me

]]> By: Arnold Darkshner http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61533 Arnold Darkshner Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:29:59 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61533 Overcharging? Does Tito think there is some universal guide to how much training camps should cost? It would seem that Rampage had no problem with paying 65k until he lost, so how is Ibarra a thief? Tito just needs to worry about finding a job and maybe he should start paying 65k for a trainer that would help his sinking career. Overcharging? Does Tito think there is some universal guide to how much training camps should cost? It would seem that Rampage had no problem with paying 65k until he lost, so how is Ibarra a thief? Tito just needs to worry about finding a job and maybe he should start paying 65k for a trainer that would help his sinking career.

]]> By: The Rob http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61532 The Rob Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:29:19 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61532 who knows and who cares. Any opinions on who's gonna win the Wanderlei/Rampage fight? who knows and who cares. Any opinions on who’s gonna win the Wanderlei/Rampage fight?

]]> By: jazzkok http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61528 jazzkok Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:11:53 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61528 I need to hear rampage's side of the story before i make up my mind. I honestly thought juanito truly cared for rampage like a son. But $hit who knows. I need to hear rampage’s side of the story before i make up my mind. I honestly thought juanito truly cared for rampage like a son. But $hit who knows.

]]> By: rutdog http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61526 rutdog Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:03:15 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61526 KOuch, I've been working too much. What "miscarriage thing"? KOuch,
I’ve been working too much. What “miscarriage thing”?

]]> By: KOuch http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61520 KOuch Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:44:19 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61520 Another thing: I've been ripped off worse than Rampage and taken advantage of by a Stock Broker/Financial Advisor when I was younger. It is not an excuse to "fast" then flip the F out. I defended Rampage's actions to the fullest even when the miscarriage thing came up. Ibarra is not fully to blame for Rampage's issues. He may be part of the problem but he did not single handedly cause them. Most of us here have already spoken our bitter feelings for Ibarra before any of this happened. Now Ibarra is just being exposed for the piece of crap he is. I just wish someone more honorable than Tito took a stand against him. Another thing: I’ve been ripped off worse than Rampage and taken advantage of by a Stock Broker/Financial Advisor when I was younger. It is not an excuse to “fast” then flip the F out. I defended Rampage’s actions to the fullest even when the miscarriage thing came up. Ibarra is not fully to blame for Rampage’s issues. He may be part of the problem but he did not single handedly cause them. Most of us here have already spoken our bitter feelings for Ibarra before any of this happened. Now Ibarra is just being exposed for the piece of crap he is. I just wish someone more honorable than Tito took a stand against him.

]]> By: timcat http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61519 timcat Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:43:00 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61519 He should know, he runs it. I know way back in the day that Rampage was a part of Team Punishment. Ibarra really screwed himself with this one. He should know, he runs it. I know way back in the day that Rampage was a part of Team Punishment. Ibarra really screwed himself with this one.

]]> By: KOuch http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61518 KOuch Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:39:25 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61518 Rampage/Ibarra is another story..... I'll wait for Rampage to speak out. Rampage/Ibarra is another story….. I’ll wait for Rampage to speak out.

]]> By: JOHNBOY http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61517 JOHNBOY Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:38:35 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61517 haha tito speaks his mind and i like him for it haha tito speaks his mind and i like him for it

]]> By: KOuch http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/09/09/tito-ortiz-juanito-ibarra-is-a-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-61516 KOuch Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:37:56 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=5423#comment-61516 I never cared for Ibarra because he reminded me of a Don King personality........ but at the same time I never relly liked Tito either.....Tito runs his mouth so much with ignorance I am not sure how serious to take him or how much to believe. I know Tito exagerates and has lied in the past. F them both. Ibarra is bad for MMA. Tito needs to focus on fighting and pounding Jenna. Tito's mouth is not trust worthy and more often than not spews garbage. I never cared for Ibarra because he reminded me of a Don King personality…….. but at the same time I never relly liked Tito either…..Tito runs his mouth so much with ignorance I am not sure how serious to take him or how much to believe. I know Tito exagerates and has lied in the past. F them both. Ibarra is bad for MMA. Tito needs to focus on fighting and pounding Jenna. Tito’s mouth is not trust worthy and more often than not spews garbage.

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