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	<title>Comments on: Tito Ortiz: The Man Without A Contract</title>
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		<title>By: ALL_VICTIM</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/08/20/tito-ortiz-the-man-without-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-55489</link>
		<dc:creator>ALL_VICTIM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tito Ortiz is a gun!!!

He knowns the money thats out there to be made,
sign a 3 fight Contract (with one of the top mma names) kick some A$$ get more wins under your belt, then ask for the big big pay days. Tito still has all the tools to be a champ , he just got lost somewhere along the way.
no matter where he fights people will still buy the PPV.

THE GNP KING WILL BE BACK.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tito Ortiz is a gun!!!</p>
<p>He knowns the money thats out there to be made,<br />
sign a 3 fight Contract (with one of the top mma names) kick some A$$ get more wins under your belt, then ask for the big big pay days. Tito still has all the tools to be a champ , he just got lost somewhere along the way.<br />
no matter where he fights people will still buy the PPV.</p>
<p>THE GNP KING WILL BE BACK&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always liked Tito but based on his last few fights he isn't deserving of a big contract.  I would like to see the UFC sign him to a one fight contract though and since he believes he still has "it" have him fight Wanderlei Silva in December.  If he can beat Silva maybe that will show the UFC or any other organization that he does still have some fight in him.  If he loses then maybe he will deside to move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always liked Tito but based on his last few fights he isn&#8217;t deserving of a big contract.  I would like to see the UFC sign him to a one fight contract though and since he believes he still has &#8220;it&#8221; have him fight Wanderlei Silva in December.  If he can beat Silva maybe that will show the UFC or any other organization that he does still have some fight in him.  If he loses then maybe he will deside to move on.</p>
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		<title>By: kelvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KOuch,

i was just referring to nobody wanting tito, i agree he hasn't done as much for the sport.  then again, barry took steroids so in my eyes he didn't do anything for the sport either.  however, this site is about MMA, not baseball, so i won't get into that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KOuch,</p>
<p>i was just referring to nobody wanting tito, i agree he hasn&#8217;t done as much for the sport.  then again, barry took steroids so in my eyes he didn&#8217;t do anything for the sport either.  however, this site is about MMA, not baseball, so i won&#8217;t get into that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gonzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tito accept $250k a fight, plus $250k win bonus, 2-3 fight deal with Affliction. That's what u are worth to for PPV buys. Obviously, there will be no need for win bonus payouts. He's become too soft and pampered. But he can still draw a crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tito accept $250k a fight, plus $250k win bonus, 2-3 fight deal with Affliction. That&#8217;s what u are worth to for PPV buys. Obviously, there will be no need for win bonus payouts. He&#8217;s become too soft and pampered. But he can still draw a crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>talk about someone who has gone batsh1t crazy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>talk about someone who has gone batsh1t crazy</p>
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		<title>By: aznstar_inc</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/08/20/tito-ortiz-the-man-without-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-55366</link>
		<dc:creator>aznstar_inc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im pretty sure this is all Jenna's fault, behind every stupid thing a man does is a pretty woman. Jenna "hustled" her way into being a millionare,now she see all the cash in MMA and thinks that she can work her magic and earn Tito the biggest pay day ever. All the issues between Dana and Tito came up when Jenna came into his life, while the sex must be good its kinda been downhill for him after they hooked up.

As for Proelite I hear their stock was down to $2 a share and they are $35 million in debt. They've laid off workers and are down to the bare bones as far as staffing goes. all signs point to this company going under despite not only having a Network TV contract but a contract with showtime. And yes Dana is a genius cause he couldve saw the deal they made and rushed into a stupid network contract that didnt benefit the UFC. So watch out affliction you could be next if you keep giving us the same rehashed fighters over n over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im pretty sure this is all Jenna&#8217;s fault, behind every stupid thing a man does is a pretty woman. Jenna &#8220;hustled&#8221; her way into being a millionare,now she see all the cash in MMA and thinks that she can work her magic and earn Tito the biggest pay day ever. All the issues between Dana and Tito came up when Jenna came into his life, while the sex must be good its kinda been downhill for him after they hooked up.</p>
<p>As for Proelite I hear their stock was down to $2 a share and they are $35 million in debt. They&#8217;ve laid off workers and are down to the bare bones as far as staffing goes. all signs point to this company going under despite not only having a Network TV contract but a contract with showtime. And yes Dana is a genius cause he couldve saw the deal they made and rushed into a stupid network contract that didnt benefit the UFC. So watch out affliction you could be next if you keep giving us the same rehashed fighters over n over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Tito is still in belief that he is the Tito of 2002, a title holder in a spot that can be ruled by wreslters with average striking ability and sub defence. 

To be fair tito is a good fighter, He actually looked really good against Machida,  he just played into Machida's game a little too long, And In orginizations like Affliction he really does have the chance to be champion because there is no Chuck or Machida or Griffon (all really good or technical strikers with good take down defence). But if  Tito does put some wins behind him he isn't worth a big contract. in the UFC he beat Ken twice (big woop) his split D over Griffon was crap, He lost to Chuck, Drew Evans (altho in reality you take away the fence grab and he won that fight) and lost to Machida, Thats not exactly the resume to bring for a 7 figure contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Tito is still in belief that he is the Tito of 2002, a title holder in a spot that can be ruled by wreslters with average striking ability and sub defence. </p>
<p>To be fair tito is a good fighter, He actually looked really good against Machida,  he just played into Machida&#8217;s game a little too long, And In orginizations like Affliction he really does have the chance to be champion because there is no Chuck or Machida or Griffon (all really good or technical strikers with good take down defence). But if  Tito does put some wins behind him he isn&#8217;t worth a big contract. in the UFC he beat Ken twice (big woop) his split D over Griffon was crap, He lost to Chuck, Drew Evans (altho in reality you take away the fence grab and he won that fight) and lost to Machida, Thats not exactly the resume to bring for a 7 figure contract.</p>
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		<title>By: FR702</title>
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		<dc:creator>FR702</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my thoughts exactly KOuch, 
 and its seems that the entire company is in denial.. they actively seeking finacing they have lost MILLIONS of dollars, cancelling shows in both the US and Europe, and the company is like no we're good no worries, instead hey made some bad decisions working towards making a better product yada yada... 

Back to Tito no way imo will ZUFFA allow him to go back to the UFC, that perhaps doesnt rule like a 3 fight contract with the WEC... or he could go to Strikeforce, Palace Fighting Championships (who has a cable deal and is trying to gather up know stars or atleast the stars they can afford ie Alex Shoehauer from the IFL), but he needs to come back down to reality and realize the isnt going to get 1mil a fight... he just isnt worth it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my thoughts exactly KOuch,<br />
 and its seems that the entire company is in denial.. they actively seeking finacing they have lost MILLIONS of dollars, cancelling shows in both the US and Europe, and the company is like no we&#8217;re good no worries, instead hey made some bad decisions working towards making a better product yada yada&#8230; </p>
<p>Back to Tito no way imo will ZUFFA allow him to go back to the UFC, that perhaps doesnt rule like a 3 fight contract with the WEC&#8230; or he could go to Strikeforce, Palace Fighting Championships (who has a cable deal and is trying to gather up know stars or atleast the stars they can afford ie Alex Shoehauer from the IFL), but he needs to come back down to reality and realize the isnt going to get 1mil a fight&#8230; he just isnt worth it</p>
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		<title>By: KOuch</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/08/20/tito-ortiz-the-man-without-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-55359</link>
		<dc:creator>KOuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelvin,

Tito is not the Barry of MMA. You're right that no one wants either of them but Tito's talent in MMA is no where near or close to Barry's in baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelvin,</p>
<p>Tito is not the Barry of MMA. You&#8217;re right that no one wants either of them but Tito&#8217;s talent in MMA is no where near or close to Barry&#8217;s in baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: KOuch</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/08/20/tito-ortiz-the-man-without-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-55356</link>
		<dc:creator>KOuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FR,

Very good point. I'll quote Dana again.

"Nobody knows the business of MMA the way I do."
   -Dana White

So far he has proven to be right. I feel bad for the Elite fighters who will have to figure out what to do when Elite goes under but at the same time I am thrilled to see Gary Shaw eat his words and fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FR,</p>
<p>Very good point. I&#8217;ll quote Dana again.</p>
<p>&#8220;Nobody knows the business of MMA the way I do.&#8221;<br />
   -Dana White</p>
<p>So far he has proven to be right. I feel bad for the Elite fighters who will have to figure out what to do when Elite goes under but at the same time I am thrilled to see Gary Shaw eat his words and fail.</p>
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		<title>By: FR702</title>
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		<dc:creator>FR702</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KOouch,
 i personally think its more than just EliteXC, it just may very well be the ProElite system, they have been losing mass amounts of money and they did get the National Contract and such but they are still going down hill.... everyone was complaining about Dana White not going thru with the HBO deal or a NBC,CBS,ABC type deal well Gary Shaw is making Dana look like a genius because not even a national television deal could save ProElite let alone take them to the "next level" that was first suggested by Shaw..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KOouch,<br />
 i personally think its more than just EliteXC, it just may very well be the ProElite system, they have been losing mass amounts of money and they did get the National Contract and such but they are still going down hill&#8230;. everyone was complaining about Dana White not going thru with the HBO deal or a NBC,CBS,ABC type deal well Gary Shaw is making Dana look like a genius because not even a national television deal could save ProElite let alone take them to the &#8220;next level&#8221; that was first suggested by Shaw..</p>
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		<title>By: KOuch</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/08/20/tito-ortiz-the-man-without-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-55350</link>
		<dc:creator>KOuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm telling you guys.....I heard through the grapevine that Elite is going under. This was 2 months ago and there has been signs to indicate the rumor is true. Taking Gary Shaw out of the public eye or reassigning his "duties" and having to cancel their upcoming show really gives me the impression Elite is hurting right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m telling you guys&#8230;..I heard through the grapevine that Elite is going under. This was 2 months ago and there has been signs to indicate the rumor is true. Taking Gary Shaw out of the public eye or reassigning his &#8220;duties&#8221; and having to cancel their upcoming show really gives me the impression Elite is hurting right now.</p>
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		<title>By: KOuch</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/08/20/tito-ortiz-the-man-without-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-55349</link>
		<dc:creator>KOuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tito has to be getting bad advice from somewhere. On top of that he is naturally stupid. This is going to be far more interesting than Randy's situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tito has to be getting bad advice from somewhere. On top of that he is naturally stupid. This is going to be far more interesting than Randy&#8217;s situation.</p>
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		<title>By: FR702</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/08/20/tito-ortiz-the-man-without-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-55343</link>
		<dc:creator>FR702</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder if my Roger Huerta is paying attention? for the best way to make long term money seems to be in the UFC, hell not even Affliction is giving away their money like they did for the Banned card, EliteXC (ProElite) doesnt seem to have any money because well Shaw just is an awful awful man..... 

Tito go to Strikeforce fight Frank one pay day and call it good... doesnt suprise me that nobody wants to pay the man what he isnt worth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder if my Roger Huerta is paying attention? for the best way to make long term money seems to be in the UFC, hell not even Affliction is giving away their money like they did for the Banned card, EliteXC (ProElite) doesnt seem to have any money because well Shaw just is an awful awful man&#8230;.. </p>
<p>Tito go to Strikeforce fight Frank one pay day and call it good&#8230; doesnt suprise me that nobody wants to pay the man what he isnt worth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DBiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how we keep using the same picture of him...you know, the one taken back when he was decent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how we keep using the same picture of him&#8230;you know, the one taken back when he was decent?</p>
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		<title>By: kelvin</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/08/20/tito-ortiz-the-man-without-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-55334</link>
		<dc:creator>kelvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is great, tito is the barry bonds of MMA...NOBODY WANTS HIM!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is great, tito is the barry bonds of MMA&#8230;NOBODY WANTS HIM!!!</p>
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		<title>By: timcat</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/08/20/tito-ortiz-the-man-without-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-55330</link>
		<dc:creator>timcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tito needs to wake up and realize he is not worth the money he is asking for. He has lost 3 of his last 4 fights and the Griffin fight was a gift. Get over yourself and just win baby!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tito needs to wake up and realize he is not worth the money he is asking for. He has lost 3 of his last 4 fights and the Griffin fight was a gift. Get over yourself and just win baby!!</p>
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		<title>By: UFC fan</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/08/20/tito-ortiz-the-man-without-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-55327</link>
		<dc:creator>UFC fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha HA!! still doesnt have a contract i hope he retires because no one wants him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha HA!! still doesnt have a contract i hope he retires because no one wants him!</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/08/20/tito-ortiz-the-man-without-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-55326</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tito from where i'm from we would call you either a tosser, a twat or a wanker.

Tito your the new Ken Shamrock !
Oh the irony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tito from where i&#8217;m from we would call you either a tosser, a twat or a wanker.</p>
<p>Tito your the new Ken Shamrock !<br />
Oh the irony</p>
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		<title>By: lotta</title>
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		<dc:creator>lotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TITO ORTIZ: THE MAN WITHOUT A CONTRACT

ALERT: ARTICLE TITLE CHANGE UPDATE ! 

TITO ORTIZ: THE MAN WITHOUT A CONDOM 

OUCH!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TITO ORTIZ: THE MAN WITHOUT A CONTRACT</p>
<p>ALERT: ARTICLE TITLE CHANGE UPDATE ! </p>
<p>TITO ORTIZ: THE MAN WITHOUT A CONDOM </p>
<p>OUCH!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Planck16</title>
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		<dc:creator>Planck16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet other fighters love the fact that some bum like Tito is asking for tons of money.  Guys will be looking to destroy him and then get their pay day.  Maybe he can open his on organization......call it PPPP.......Proud Pregnant Porno Pimps........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet other fighters love the fact that some bum like Tito is asking for tons of money.  Guys will be looking to destroy him and then get their pay day.  Maybe he can open his on organization&#8230;&#8230;call it PPPP&#8230;&#8230;.Proud Pregnant Porno Pimps&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: lotta</title>
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		<dc:creator>lotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE TITO, RETIRE ALREADY !!!
PIMP JENNA AND THE PORN INDUSTRY, NOT MMA.
ENOUGH SAID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE TITO, RETIRE ALREADY !!!<br />
PIMP JENNA AND THE PORN INDUSTRY, NOT MMA.<br />
ENOUGH SAID.</p>
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