Comments on: Quinton Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin Official Scoring http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/07/06/quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin-official-scoring/ UFC and MMA News Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:43:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: KOuch http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/07/06/quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin-official-scoring/#comment-44833 KOuch Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:10:08 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2897#comment-44833 It's a new day and guess what everyone......FORREST WON THE FIRST ROUND! It’s a new day and guess what everyone……FORREST WON THE FIRST ROUND!

]]> By: KOuch http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/07/06/quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin-official-scoring/#comment-44783 KOuch Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:00:42 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2897#comment-44783 JWILLY, Forrest won the first round. Watch the fight again. Forrest landed more kicks than Rampage did punches. Those kicks were more damaging than Rampages punches. Rampage connected ONE punch that knocked Forrest down when he was side stepping. Did Rampage G&P? NO! He threw one f-n punch that missed and Forrest was able to get up. Forrest must have been stronger than Rampage that night. I don't understand the controversey over the first round. Everyone just watch it again.....then again if you have to. I swear to all midgets and dwarfs, Forrest clearly won the first round. JWILLY,

Forrest won the first round. Watch the fight again. Forrest landed more kicks than Rampage did punches. Those kicks were more damaging than Rampages punches. Rampage connected ONE punch that knocked Forrest down when he was side stepping. Did Rampage G&P? NO! He threw one f-n punch that missed and Forrest was able to get up. Forrest must have been stronger than Rampage that night. I don’t understand the controversey over the first round. Everyone just watch it again…..then again if you have to. I swear to all midgets and dwarfs, Forrest clearly won the first round.

]]> By: jwilly84us http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/07/06/quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin-official-scoring/#comment-44776 jwilly84us Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:09:16 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2897#comment-44776 Forest is not the best at 205, but because of the judges in vegas he is right now. Roy Silbert needs to lose his job as a judge. To not give Rampage the first round is complete garbage. I think this should raise a flag to UFC officals to the fact that he does not understand the sport enough to be a judge. Judges should be people who understand the stand-up game as well as the ground game. Roy Silbert clearly doesn't understand any part of the sport of MMA. Dana needs to be sure that officials, such as Roy, stay far away from his organization or we have boxing in vegas all over again. Forest is not the best at 205, but because of the judges in vegas he is right now. Roy Silbert needs to lose his job as a judge. To not give Rampage the first round is complete garbage. I think this should raise a flag to UFC officals to the fact that he does not understand the sport enough to be a judge. Judges should be people who understand the stand-up game as well as the ground game. Roy Silbert clearly doesn’t understand any part of the sport of MMA. Dana needs to be sure that officials, such as Roy, stay far away from his organization or we have boxing in vegas all over again.

]]> By: Dietrich http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/07/06/quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin-official-scoring/#comment-44765 Dietrich Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:27:38 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2897#comment-44765 Forrest won, will he win a rematch is the issue. Forrest wasn't going to be the fighter to Ko the champ. When he is on you just can't slow him outside of a lucky punch. I think too many people have been watching Fightscience and Sportscience and believing these Rocky 4 esque demonstrations and making these fighters legends or demigods.Rampage is a top tier performer.The sad issue is one that I haven't seen raised anywhere during this season of TUF. Dave Roberts. Roberts is the one who got Rampage started and now he is at the top how come Dave looked like he has been fighting for lunch money on skid row. He should have been in top form after having been through a couple of Jackson's training campsif he was invited or could go. Am I saying this is Quentin's responsibility not entirely. I do feel like we all need to help eachother when we can and this is one of those situations where we may never know what happened. Forrest won, will he win a rematch is the issue. Forrest wasn’t going to be the fighter to Ko the champ. When he is on you just can’t slow him outside of a lucky punch. I think too many people have been watching Fightscience and Sportscience and believing these Rocky 4 esque demonstrations and making these fighters legends or demigods.Rampage is a top tier performer.The sad issue is one that I haven’t seen raised anywhere during this season of TUF. Dave Roberts. Roberts is the one who got Rampage started and now he is at the top how come Dave looked like he has been fighting for lunch money on skid row. He should have been in top form after having been through a couple of Jackson’s training campsif he was invited or could go. Am I saying this is Quentin’s responsibility not entirely. I do feel like we all need to help eachother when we can and this is one of those situations where we may never know what happened.

]]> By: jwilly84us http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/07/06/quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin-official-scoring/#comment-44729 jwilly84us Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:27:22 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2897#comment-44729 How anyone could give Forest round 1 or 4 blows my mind. The first round Forest got tagged and was down and almost out. There is no way in hell the few leg kicks and jabs in the first round that Forest landed cancels out getting knocked on your ass and almost out. Then in the fourth round Forest gets knocked down again, the Quinton is in full guard landing shot and splitting Forest open, got caught in a submission and slams Forest to get out, but maintains control from the top. There is no way in hell Forest deserved to win that fight. Rampage is the uncrowned champion of the UFC. A rematch needs to be made for October. They did it with Courture/Lidell 2 & 3. they can sure the hell do it with Rampage/Griffin. How anyone could give Forest round 1 or 4 blows my mind. The first round Forest got tagged and was down and almost out. There is no way in hell the few leg kicks and jabs in the first round that Forest landed cancels out getting knocked on your ass and almost out. Then in the fourth round Forest gets knocked down again, the Quinton is in full guard landing shot and splitting Forest open, got caught in a submission and slams Forest to get out, but maintains control from the top. There is no way in hell Forest deserved to win that fight. Rampage is the uncrowned champion of the UFC. A rematch needs to be made for October. They did it with Courture/Lidell 2 & 3. they can sure the hell do it with Rampage/Griffin.

]]> By: AnthonyB http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/07/06/quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin-official-scoring/#comment-44670 AnthonyB Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:48:38 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2897#comment-44670 Its crazy to me that even one of the judges gave rd 1 to griffin. Quinton clearly inflicted some damage with that uppercut and then controlled Forrest on the ground. I thought Rampage had a legitimate chance to end the fight there. Forrest clearly won round 2 but why was it so decisively a 10-8 round? Yes he controlled the entire round but he didnt really dish out any punishment on the ground. At no point did it seem like he was going to finish Rampage in that round. If that was a 10-8 rd for Forrest I think rd 1 could of been 10-8 for Rampage. I think nearly finishing a fight should count for more than just controlling your position. The last three rounds were very close. I gave 3 to Jackson because it seemed as though he hurt Forrest plus he opened up that nasty cut. I think 4 went to Forrest and honestly 5 could of went either way. I personally felt rampage won the fight although I can see how it went to Forrest. I really have no problem with Forrest winning I just don't like that it was a unanimous decision. 49-46 is absolutely ridiculous! Rampage deserves better than losing that fight by a margin like that. I know Quinton said he got beat but he is a classy guy and I highly doubt he felt like he lost four rounds and especially that first one. It seems like Forrest is the ufc's poster boy since he helped bring the sport back into the mainstream, however if decisions like this continue the sport is going to lose a great deal of credibility. It was horrible desicions that made me stop watching boxing all together and I would hate to see mma go down the same path. The only highlight they had for Forrest was two leg kicks! Like I said Forrest could of won that fight I just feel the champion deserved more respect from the judges and should of been ahead on one scorecard. Also I hate how when a guy coaches for TUF he has such a long layoff. I think this hurts the champion because the other guy is going to be hungrier. Ten months was way too long for Rampage to have too wait to fight and I think it hurt him. Its crazy to me that even one of the judges gave rd 1 to griffin. Quinton clearly inflicted some damage with that uppercut and then controlled Forrest on the ground. I thought Rampage had a legitimate chance to end the fight there. Forrest clearly won round 2 but why was it so decisively a 10-8 round? Yes he controlled the entire round but he didnt really dish out any punishment on the ground. At no point did it seem like he was going to finish Rampage in that round. If that was a 10-8 rd for Forrest I think rd 1 could of been 10-8 for Rampage. I think nearly finishing a fight should count for more than just controlling
your position. The last three rounds were very close. I gave 3 to Jackson because it seemed as though he hurt Forrest plus he opened up that nasty cut. I think 4 went to Forrest and honestly 5 could of went either way. I personally felt rampage won the fight although I can see how it went to Forrest. I really have no problem with Forrest winning I just don’t like that it was a unanimous decision. 49-46 is absolutely ridiculous! Rampage deserves better than losing that fight by a margin like that. I know Quinton said he got beat but he is a classy guy and I highly doubt he felt like he lost four rounds and especially that
first one. It seems like Forrest is the ufc’s poster boy since he helped bring the sport back into the mainstream, however if decisions like this continue the sport is going to lose a great deal of credibility. It was horrible desicions that made me stop watching boxing all together and I would hate to see mma go down the same path. The only highlight they had for Forrest was two leg kicks! Like I said Forrest could of won that fight I just feel the champion deserved more respect from the judges and should of been ahead on one scorecard. Also I hate how when a guy coaches for TUF he has such a long layoff. I think this hurts the champion because the other guy is going to be hungrier. Ten months was way too long for Rampage to have too wait to fight and I think it hurt him.

]]> By: Jay http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/07/06/quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin-official-scoring/#comment-44661 Jay Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:11:12 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2897#comment-44661 I think the reason they score forrest round 1 is because he did more hits on rampage but rampage got him down with a punch near the end of the match. I think the reason they score forrest round 1 is because he did more hits on rampage but rampage got him down with a punch near the end of the match.

]]> By: JLM1976 http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/07/06/quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin-official-scoring/#comment-44649 JLM1976 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:03:15 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2897#comment-44649 i only saw the fight once (when it was live), but I watched the fight very closely from the beginning to end. i like both fighters. forrest shows a lot of heart so i wouldn't have been surprised if he'd ended up beating rampage. but he clearly did not defeat rampage. i scored the bout 49-46 in favor of jackson, but you could argue many things. i wouldn't have been too shocked if one of the judges had scored the fight 48-47 in favor of rampage, but that is as close as it gets to griffin winning this fight. he created opportunities, but he didn't outscore jackson. i don't see how any of the judges could've said with a clear conscience that griffin won this fight. i'd like to see a replay of what the judges were doing during this fight. i wouldn't say that griffin can't decisively win if they fight again because this fight could've ended up going either way (and so can the rematch). but it's really a shame to see a champ decisively win and still have the belt stripped from him. unbelievable... i only saw the fight once (when it was live), but I watched the fight very closely from the beginning to end. i like both fighters. forrest shows a lot of heart so i wouldn’t have been surprised if he’d ended up beating rampage. but he clearly did not defeat rampage. i scored the bout 49-46 in favor of jackson, but you could argue many things. i wouldn’t have been too shocked if one of the judges had scored the fight 48-47 in favor of rampage, but that is as close as it gets to griffin winning this fight. he created opportunities, but he didn’t outscore jackson. i don’t see how any of the judges could’ve said with a clear conscience that griffin won this fight. i’d like to see a replay of what the judges were doing during this fight. i wouldn’t say that griffin can’t decisively win if they fight again because this fight could’ve ended up going either way (and so can the rematch). but it’s really a shame to see a champ decisively win and still have the belt stripped from him. unbelievable…

]]> By: Dietrich http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/07/06/quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin-official-scoring/#comment-44630 Dietrich Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:03:43 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2897#comment-44630 Scott, Sluts...Was that the sugar coated version...:) Scott,
Sluts…Was that the sugar coated version…:)

]]> By: bj6789 http://mmafrenzy.com/2008/07/06/quinton-jackson-vs-forrest-griffin-official-scoring/#comment-44627 bj6789 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:13:04 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=2897#comment-44627 they both suck chuck liddel will rise AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they both suck chuck liddel will rise AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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