Comments on: Renato Sobral Issues Statement http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/ UFC and MMA News Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:43:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Jimmyfromsandiego http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-26026 Jimmyfromsandiego Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:44:20 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-26026 First of all Babalu is a father and husband. He's a good guy and a hell of a fighter. Babalu and that lightweight kid Uriah(?) from Sacramento, Ca. are my two favorites fighters. I have one wish for Babalu and that is he make a ton of money fighting and set up his family for life. Keep surfing Babalu! Pura Vida - Jimmy First of all Babalu is a father and husband. He’s a good guy and a hell of a fighter. Babalu and that lightweight kid Uriah(?) from Sacramento, Ca. are my two favorites fighters. I have one wish for Babalu and that is he make a ton of money fighting and set up his family for life. Keep surfing Babalu! Pura Vida - Jimmy

]]> By: SCOTCHYDOW http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2327 SCOTCHYDOW Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:36:23 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2327 I didn't know about Babalu's arrest. He obviously is on a downward slope in his life. We have all been there. He will be punished, and hopefully grows as a fighter and human being. In a couple of years if he doesn't let his life destroy him, we will see a greater Babalu. Good luck to him and good on the UFC for proper punishment. NOW, DOWN WITH SHERK! I didn't know about Babalu's arrest. He obviously is on a downward slope in his life. We have all been there. He will be punished, and hopefully grows as a fighter and human being. In a couple of years if he doesn't let his life destroy him, we will see a greater Babalu. Good luck to him and good on the UFC for proper punishment. NOW, DOWN WITH SHERK!

]]> By: Fightlinker » Blog Archive » Babalu is a Babaliar http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2321 Fightlinker » Blog Archive » Babalu is a Babaliar Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:21:16 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2321 [...] was on purpose. And boy, doesn’t that just sink the rest of the good work in his statement. Let’s take a look at where this letter self-destructs: I did not intentionally choke out David Heath. The first that I realized that David had tapped was [...] [...] was on purpose. And boy, doesn’t that just sink the rest of the good work in his statement. Let’s take a look at where this letter self-destructs: I did not intentionally choke out David Heath. The first that I realized that David had tapped was [...]

]]> By: Mark http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2313 Mark Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:19:15 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2313 Of course Babalu is going to be apologetic, there is money at stake and future purses.  At the end of the day he did the crime and now must do the time.........we all make mistakes yes I agree, but what he did was disgraceful and even though he is the Bad Boy of the UFC and we all like to see such an unpredictable fighter rules are there for a reason for the safety of all of the fighters. I think he will get the nod from Dana to return at a future date as he is a crowd puller and is more Dollars in Dana's Bank account. Having said all of the above I dont think he is the fighter he used to be and against another top fighter like Chuck or Rampage he would lose. Of course Babalu is going to be apologetic, there is money at stake and future purses.  At the end of the day he did the crime and now must do the time………we all make mistakes yes I agree, but what he did was disgraceful and even though he is the Bad Boy of the UFC and we all like to see such an unpredictable fighter rules are there for a reason for the safety of all of the fighters. I think he will get the nod from Dana to return at a future date as he is a crowd puller and is more Dollars in Dana's Bank account. Having said all of the above I dont think he is the fighter he used to be and against another top fighter like Chuck or Rampage he would lose.

]]> By: garth http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2307 garth Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:25:16 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2307 I'd say that Babalu is talented, but not one of the best anymore. Even if he was the best, the rules still apply. Being sorry doesn't enter into it, and a statement written by his agent doesn't mean a damn thing. As far as the UFC cares, if they can get away with suspending him for a month and re-sign the guy they will. they're in it for the money. So's Babalu. The only reason he's made his "apologetic" statements is because he got a look at his bank account. The apologists are really starting to get to me. If Randy Couture did something like that I'd be hollering for him to be suspended and fined. Thats the game. Those are the rules. Stop trying to justify the unjustifiable.  I'd say that Babalu is talented, but not one of the best anymore. Even if he was the best, the rules still apply. Being sorry doesn't enter into it, and a statement written by his agent doesn't mean a damn thing. As far as the UFC cares, if they can get away with suspending him for a month and re-sign the guy they will. they're in it for the money. So's Babalu. The only reason he's made his "apologetic" statements is because he got a look at his bank account. The apologists are really starting to get to me. If Randy Couture did something like that I'd be hollering for him to be suspended and fined. Thats the game. Those are the rules. Stop trying to justify the unjustifiable. 

]]> By: Andrea http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2296 Andrea Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:59:28 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2296 I'm Italian and I'm a MMA fan, not just a Babalu fan. But I support Renato even if he made a big big mistake. I've seen a half of his fights and at the end of each i've seen a friendly and correct behavior. I think he had a bad night (and a bad summer too, with the arrest and so on...) but now he feels very sorry about that. Everyone can make mistakes, now it's Dana White turn...if he dont want to go wrong he has to give Babalu another chance...he's still one of the best light heavyweight in the world. I want him back in the UFC!!!!! I'm Italian and I'm a MMA fan, not just a Babalu fan.
But I support Renato even if he made a big big mistake. I've seen a half of his fights and at the end of each i've seen a friendly and correct behavior. I think he had a bad night (and a bad summer too, with the arrest and so on…) but now he feels very sorry about that. Everyone can make mistakes, now it's Dana White turn…if he dont want to go wrong he has to give Babalu another chance…he's still one of the best light heavyweight in the world. I want him back in the UFC!!!!!

]]> By: garth http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2275 garth Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:00:45 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2275 I saw the fight as well. Why, if it was just Joe Rogan freaking out and everyone agreeing with him, were the spectators sitting right there booing from the minute it happened? Were they...predicting what Rogan would say and pre-booing in agreeement with his hysterical conclusion?  I saw the fight as well. Why, if it was just Joe Rogan freaking out and everyone agreeing with him, were the spectators sitting right there booing from the minute it happened? Were they…predicting what Rogan would say and pre-booing in agreeement with his hysterical conclusion? 

]]> By: Anthony Camilo http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2270 Anthony Camilo Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:45:37 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2270 I saw the fight. As much as I like Joe Rogan, it sounded that he started freaking out on the microphone way to soon. I have seen chokes held for much longer. This seems like a case of over reacting by an announcer and then everyone just agreeing with him. Before seeing the fight I pictured a WWE type of scene but upon seeing it I found that it was much ado about nothing. Babalu got screwed here. I saw the fight. As much as I like Joe Rogan, it sounded that he started freaking out on the microphone way to soon. I have seen chokes held for much longer. This seems like a case of over reacting by an announcer and then everyone just agreeing with him. Before seeing the fight I pictured a WWE type of scene but upon seeing it I found that it was much ado about nothing.

Babalu got screwed here.

]]> By: Red http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2260 Red Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:41:59 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2260 Babalu is too talented and has too much of a fan base to not be in the UFC.  He will be back one day.  Hopefully he gets a call from the UFC one day and maybe he might headline a Ultimate Fight Night Live. Babalu is too talented and has too much of a fan base to not be in the UFC.  He will be back one day.  Hopefully he gets a call from the UFC one day and maybe he might headline a Ultimate Fight Night Live.

]]> By: FixXer http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2258 FixXer Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:50:02 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2258 A part of me whats to say he is truley sorry...but the other side says hell no.  I hope to see him in the future but he needs to do his time.  A part of me whats to say he is truley sorry…but the other side says hell no.  I hope to see him in the future but he needs to do his time. 

]]> By: jim danniels http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2251 jim danniels Sun, 02 Sep 2007 05:11:28 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2251 Good for White to step up and make a point were all these other professional sports are letting piece of s#$* athletes come back time after time.  He should boot Sherk to, lead by example for all other professional sports to follow.  Show that MMA has a 'no tolerance' for cheap stuff, steriods, or anyother things that bring negative publicity to the sport.  Good for White to step up and make a point were all these other professional sports are letting piece of s#$* athletes come back time after time.  He should boot Sherk to, lead by example for all other professional sports to follow.  Show that MMA has a 'no tolerance' for cheap stuff, steriods, or anyother things that bring negative publicity to the sport. 

]]> By: Mojo http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2246 Mojo Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:33:00 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2246 Yeah, I would like to see Babaloser back in the UFC, only to get his ass kicked like Jason Lambert did at UFC 68. Yeah, I would like to see Babaloser back in the UFC, only to get his ass kicked like Jason Lambert did at UFC 68.

]]> By: garth http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2243 garth Sun, 02 Sep 2007 01:17:36 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2243 spot on spot on

]]> By: Kris http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2242 Kris Sun, 02 Sep 2007 01:14:45 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2242 I think that could very well be the case as White has minced words in the past and reports were generally that he was on his way out anyways (otherwise why not put him on the main card). I think it was to give the impression that the UFC actually took action for what he did. Saying the basically did nothing isn't very effective in helping the UFC in the eyes of their critics. I think that could very well be the case as White has minced words in the past and reports were generally that he was on his way out anyways (otherwise why not put him on the main card). I think it was to give the impression that the UFC actually took action for what he did. Saying the basically did nothing isn't very effective in helping the UFC in the eyes of their critics.

]]> By: garth http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2241 garth Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:32:08 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2241 i'm kinda thinking that dana maybe used some creative interpretation in stating he'd been "cut" instead of simply saying "we're not re-signing him".  i'm kinda thinking that dana maybe used some creative interpretation in stating he'd been "cut" instead of simply saying "we're not re-signing him". 

]]> By: Kris http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2240 Kris Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:19:03 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2240 That is what I heard as well <strong>garth</strong> but I think there must have been either a provision for an extension or fights remaining for Dana White to say they actually cut him from his contract as opposed to simply not resigning him. That is what I heard as well garth but I think there must have been either a provision for an extension or fights remaining for Dana White to say they actually cut him from his contract as opposed to simply not resigning him.

]]> By: garth http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2239 garth Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:06:12 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2239 i still haven't been able to find out for sure, but i thought that was his last fight on his current contract anyways...  i still haven't been able to find out for sure, but i thought that was his last fight on his current contract anyways… 

]]> By: Red http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2237 Red Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:35:31 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2237 I agree with you Kris.  Also, it seems that Babalu has been deeply humbled and I hope to see him back in the UFC.  Not only is he learning from this mistake, but other MMA fighters have learned to not pull this kind of stunt. I agree with you Kris.  Also, it seems that Babalu has been deeply humbled and I hope to see him back in the UFC.  Not only is he learning from this mistake, but other MMA fighters have learned to not pull this kind of stunt.

]]> By: rick http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2234 rick Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:40:37 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2234 i have trained with babalu in new hampshire..hes a wonderfull guy and one of my favorite fighters!  i think what he did was wrong! but we all make mistakes in life..certainly anyone on steroids should be fired for life because they cheated the whole way through! thats the b**** way to win a fight...atleast babalu didnt stoop that low..but i hope that dana white will give babalu another chance!  and yes fire shawn sherk for life.   id love to see babalu against tito ortiz...could be one of the best fights in ufc history...my moneys on babalu! i have trained with babalu in new hampshire..hes a wonderfull guy and one of my favorite fighters!  i think what he did was wrong! but we all make mistakes in life..certainly anyone on steroids should be fired for life because they cheated the whole way through! thats the b**** way to win a fight…atleast babalu didnt stoop that low..but i hope that dana white will give babalu another chance!  and yes fire shawn sherk for life.   id love to see babalu against tito ortiz…could be one of the best fights in ufc history…my moneys on babalu!

]]> By: Kris http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2232 Kris Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:21:16 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2232 I think I fall into the majority that at least believes Babalu to an extent. I really feel a tap out can be missed especially considering the adrenaline flowing during the fight. Whether he felt Mazzigatti's initial attempt for release I don't know but Babalu has never done anything like this in the past given the chance and even though it was inappropriate he was respectful during the process and should have been fined and possible receive a minor suspension but I think the release of him from his contract is a bit harsh. I think I fall into the majority that at least believes Babalu to an extent. I really feel a tap out can be missed especially considering the adrenaline flowing during the fight. Whether he felt Mazzigatti's initial attempt for release I don't know but Babalu has never done anything like this in the past given the chance and even though it was inappropriate he was respectful during the process and should have been fined and possible receive a minor suspension but I think the release of him from his contract is a bit harsh.

]]> By: T. Atnip http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2230 T. Atnip Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:53:44 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2230 He is so full of SH*T. Claiming that he was unaware that there was a tap or that the ref was waving him off. He intentionally held the choke for the purposes of "teaching him a lesson" as he stated. I am glad it happened and will be an example to the rest for inapproriate behavior. T. He is so full of SH*T. Claiming that he was unaware that there was a tap or that the ref was waving him off. He intentionally held the choke for the purposes of "teaching him a lesson" as he stated. I am glad it happened and will be an example to the rest for inapproriate behavior.
T.

]]> By: SCOTCHYDOW http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2227 SCOTCHYDOW Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:07:24 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2227 I don't know, he sounds(in script) sincere. I hope he whinds up with a contact down the road. I don't know, he sounds(in script) sincere. I hope he whinds up with a contact down the road.

]]> By: garth http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-2226 garth Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:48:31 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/01/renato-sobral-issues-statement/#comment-2226 http://spikedhumor.com/articles/123053/Sobral_vs_Heath.html you can hear someone yelling obscenities after the fight, during the replays. Rogan is the first one to state that "He was looking Mazagatti right in the eyes". The crowd caught on FAST, though...and they were there. I still think he screwed up, and broke the bargain you make with your opponents. But he's getting his punishment, and while he still denies doing anything, he cops to deserving to be punished (confusing). So, do your time, Babalu. There's other orgs to work for, I'm sure ShoXC will love to have you. The bad thing for him is the LHW division is so stacked right now. Still, he should have let go.  http://spikedhumor.com/articles/123053/Sobral_vs_Heath.html
you can hear someone yelling obscenities after the fight, during the replays. Rogan is the first one to state that "He was looking Mazagatti right in the eyes". The crowd caught on FAST, though…and they were there. I still think he screwed up, and broke the bargain you make with your opponents. But he's getting his punishment, and while he still denies doing anything, he cops to deserving to be punished (confusing). So, do your time, Babalu. There's other orgs to work for, I'm sure ShoXC will love to have you. The bad thing for him is the LHW division is so stacked right now. Still, he should have let go. 

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