Comments on: The UFC’s Ten Biggest Letdowns of 2007 http://mmafrenzy.com/1711/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-of-2007/ UFC and MMA News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:07:25 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: funkywanderer http://mmafrenzy.com/1711/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-of-2007/#comment-16144 funkywanderer Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:00:31 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/12/18/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-on-2007/#comment-16144 Leland, I would assume somebody with an educated view of the MMA world in general would have written a less biased, one-sided piece. You present some of the facts, but not all. Granted I will concede that there are things that could be better with the UFC, there are also a number of things that could be worse. People complain about not enough MMA, but then complain that the number of shows cuts down on the marketing. Of course boxing/HBO can put a tonne of money into their 24/7 series...they only had two big shows this year. De la Hoya/Mayweather and Hatton/Mayweather. If the UFC went back to doing three or four shows a year, they could address most of your points. More marketing, more marquee names on each card, less tie-up of title holders. The point is that everybody loves to complain...apparently you are part of that group. As a reader, I am getting tired of reading all the pissy rants of mma websites regarding the UFC. I enjoyed Jake Rossen's piece because it looked at the good aspects of the UFC and what it has done for MMA. If you're going to write a piece like this, in the future, please present all the facts so that people can consider both sides: Rampage did fight Henderson. Fedor's management was just as much to blame for him not coming the UFC. Holding up the LHW title in order to market two of the premiere fighters. The state of Pride when it was acquired by Zuffa. Leland,

I would assume somebody with an educated view of the MMA world in general would have written a less biased, one-sided piece.

You present some of the facts, but not all. Granted I will concede that there are things that could be better with the UFC, there are also a number of things that could be worse.

People complain about not enough MMA, but then complain that the number of shows cuts down on the marketing. Of course boxing/HBO can put a tonne of money into their 24/7 series…they only had two big shows this year. De la Hoya/Mayweather and Hatton/Mayweather. If the UFC went back to doing three or four shows a year, they could address most of your points. More marketing, more marquee names on each card, less tie-up of title holders.

The point is that everybody loves to complain…apparently you are part of that group. As a reader, I am getting tired of reading all the pissy rants of mma websites regarding the UFC. I enjoyed Jake Rossen’s piece because it looked at the good aspects of the UFC and what it has done for MMA.

If you’re going to write a piece like this, in the future, please present all the facts so that people can consider both sides:

Rampage did fight Henderson.
Fedor’s management was just as much to blame for him not coming the UFC.
Holding up the LHW title in order to market two of the premiere fighters.
The state of Pride when it was acquired by Zuffa.

]]> By: Vampslayr http://mmafrenzy.com/1711/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-of-2007/#comment-16019 Vampslayr Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:07:38 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/12/18/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-on-2007/#comment-16019 I love the guys who just love to b**** and then have nothing to back it up. No one is ever told they have to agree with anyone's comments, but to cry about this or that without offering a counter argument is funnier to read than listening to Liddell in an interview. I love the guys who just love to b**** and then have nothing to back it up. No one is ever told they have to agree with anyone’s comments, but to cry about this or that without offering a counter argument is funnier to read than listening to Liddell in an interview.

]]> By: huertarogerhuerta http://mmafrenzy.com/1711/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-of-2007/#comment-16016 huertarogerhuerta Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:33:48 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/12/18/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-on-2007/#comment-16016 OK Rampage and Forrest aside how many other fighters could deliver an interesting show to watch when theres no bad blood? Tito because he would create bad blood but who else if you can come up with more tell me who I am overlooking I am sure theres a few but as right now I cant think of anyone Id watch. OK Rampage and Forrest aside how many other fighters could deliver an interesting show to watch when theres no bad blood? Tito because he would create bad blood but who else if you can come up with more tell me who I am overlooking I am sure theres a few but as right now I cant think of anyone Id watch.

]]> By: ChuteBoxe http://mmafrenzy.com/1711/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-of-2007/#comment-15995 ChuteBoxe Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:19:07 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/12/18/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-on-2007/#comment-15995 Great article. By the way, Jake Rossen has always been a world class retard. Great article. By the way, Jake Rossen has always been a world class retard.

]]> By: Stefen http://mmafrenzy.com/1711/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-of-2007/#comment-15964 Stefen Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:42:44 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/12/18/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-on-2007/#comment-15964 Leland, Great op piece. I agree wholeheartedly. It's unfortunate that so many "Zuffa Heads" can't see what's going on. They blindly follow whatever Dana feeds them and eat it up. These are the same people who will buy a Brock Lesnar Vs Frank Mir PPV main event for $100 and say "if you can't afford it then maybe you should ghet another job you homo!" These fans were not around when we were upset at them raising the price after UFC 58 because we knew eventually the price would keep going up. UFC is NOT a sport. It's a sports entertainment empire. A sport has the best compete against the best, not putting whole divisions on hold to film a television show for a popularity contest. Luckily, UFC's stranglehold will come to an end when these Zuffa Heads move onto the next fad. The fighters like Randy are already abandoning ship, and some fighters were smart enough to not even board in the first place (Fedor) We just need to sit and wait for Dana to fall flat on his face when the fad ends. Leland,

Great op piece. I agree wholeheartedly. It’s unfortunate that so many “Zuffa Heads” can’t see what’s going on. They blindly follow whatever Dana feeds them and eat it up. These are the same people who will buy a Brock Lesnar Vs Frank Mir PPV main event for $100 and say “if you can’t afford it then maybe you should ghet another job you homo!”

These fans were not around when we were upset at them raising the price after UFC 58 because we knew eventually the price would keep going up.

UFC is NOT a sport. It’s a sports entertainment empire. A sport has the best compete against the best, not putting whole divisions on hold to film a television show for a popularity contest.

Luckily, UFC’s stranglehold will come to an end when these Zuffa Heads move onto the next fad. The fighters like Randy are already abandoning ship, and some fighters were smart enough to not even board in the first place (Fedor) We just need to sit and wait for Dana to fall flat on his face when the fad ends.

]]> By: scotchydow http://mmafrenzy.com/1711/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-of-2007/#comment-15958 scotchydow Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:04:54 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/12/18/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-on-2007/#comment-15958 Actually, all of the fighter contracts were NOT transferable. Some were, but it was a case sensitive deal. Like Fedor, he was allowed to sign elswhere because of his open ended contract. Actually, all of the fighter contracts were NOT transferable. Some were, but it was a case sensitive deal. Like Fedor, he was allowed to sign elswhere because of his open ended contract.

]]> By: scotchydow http://mmafrenzy.com/1711/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-of-2007/#comment-15954 scotchydow Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:55:08 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/12/18/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-on-2007/#comment-15954 24/7 did a ton to sell a fight in a sport that has been struggling lately. Imagine if you took a sport that already has momentum (a.k.a. MMA) and do something like this (granted, TUF is intended to be the substitute, love it, but it's not) and it would take the sport to unheard of levels.... The HBO deal wasn't squashed by HBO, it was squashed by the UFC. They didn't want to hand over production rights (and I agree with that move) The UFC's product is much better than the competitors (production wise) and they don't want to loose that one clear advantage,but.... HBO would've produced a 24/7 for Chuck/Wandy for sure. As far as needing a personality to match Mayweather???? Are you kidding me, Forrest/Rampage has more personality and charisma than Mayweather has fought outclassed fighters. 24/7 did a ton to sell a fight in a sport that has been struggling lately. Imagine if you took a sport that already has momentum (a.k.a. MMA) and do something like this (granted, TUF is intended to be the substitute, love it, but it’s not) and it would take the sport to unheard of levels….

The HBO deal wasn’t squashed by HBO, it was squashed by the UFC. They didn’t want to hand over production rights (and I agree with that move) The UFC’s product is much better than the competitors (production wise) and they don’t want to loose that one clear advantage,but…. HBO would’ve produced a 24/7 for Chuck/Wandy for sure.

As far as needing a personality to match Mayweather???? Are you kidding me, Forrest/Rampage has more personality and charisma than Mayweather has fought outclassed fighters.

]]> By: huertarogerhuerta http://mmafrenzy.com/1711/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-of-2007/#comment-15946 huertarogerhuerta Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:03:20 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/12/18/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-on-2007/#comment-15946 I agree with alot of this article. I was at the event in Jersey and although I had an awesome time I agree Rashad vs Bisping was not a main event worthy bout maybe a co-main event. Chuck was the poster boy for the ufc when they were just starting to get in the mainstream and I can respect that there looking after him since he was so loyal to the company and big in bringing it to the mainstream but Rampage isnt getting pushed as much as he should be the man is hilarious and i gotta go to youtube to see him sayin something funny... let him commentate!!! Although I dont like boxing I cant help but get sucked in by 24/7 but to pull off a show like 24/7 you need a fighter like (and this kills me to say cuz I dont like this guy) Mayweather if the ufc is gonna try a show like that you need a fighter with some charisma to carry it and I dont know how many could pull it off I like the idea of them hyping a title fight with the coaches granted Hughes vs Serra took forever and ended in a bad way but lets remember season 1 was to hype the rematch between Chuck and Randy so this tactic isnt new so I disagree on that point This is a point I agree with completly stop dicking your fighters around when there contracts are almost up (Arlovski Marquardt etc) because pretty soon there going to get feed up and leave the ufc. This was a year of broken promises with the Fedor one being the one that hurts the most you promised me Fedor and you give me Brock Lesner?!?! Although when Dana White talks it may not sound the most professional but hes talking like most 18-25 year old guys I know. And isnt that the demographic hes trying to reach?? Dana White filthy sailor or suave genius you can decide The website thing I dont know much about with the buy out of PRIDE I only use this site the ufc offical site and a few others to get my ufc news That whole CSAC was handled horribly by all parties involved the CSAC bumbled and stumbled there way to a decision and Dana White shouldve kept quiet on the matter till the ruling was passed And finally I dont have a problem with them killing off Pride because of the financial situation plus there tv contract with FSN is up very shortly if its not already i do however have a problem with the ufc not buying out the fighters contracts dont get me wrong they brought over some great guys but people like Fedor and Gomi slip away to other organizations All in all good article with alot of good points and if nothing else this article gives ufc and mma fans something to debate til next year I agree with alot of this article. I was at the event in Jersey and although I had an awesome time I agree Rashad vs Bisping was not a main event worthy bout maybe a co-main event.

Chuck was the poster boy for the ufc when they were just starting to get in the mainstream and I can respect that there looking after him since he was so loyal to the company and big in bringing it to the mainstream but Rampage isnt getting pushed as much as he should be the man is hilarious and i gotta go to youtube to see him sayin something funny… let him commentate!!!

Although I dont like boxing I cant help but get sucked in by 24/7 but to pull off a show like 24/7 you need a fighter like (and this kills me to say cuz I dont like this guy) Mayweather if the ufc is gonna try a show like that you need a fighter with some charisma to carry it and I dont know how many could pull it off

I like the idea of them hyping a title fight with the coaches granted Hughes vs Serra took forever and ended in a bad way but lets remember season 1 was to hype the rematch between Chuck and Randy so this tactic isnt new so I disagree on that point

This is a point I agree with completly stop dicking your fighters around when there contracts are almost up (Arlovski Marquardt etc) because pretty soon there going to get feed up and leave the ufc.

This was a year of broken promises with the Fedor one being the one that hurts the most you promised me Fedor and you give me Brock Lesner?!?!

Although when Dana White talks it may not sound the most professional but hes talking like most 18-25 year old guys I know. And isnt that the demographic hes trying to reach?? Dana White filthy sailor or suave genius you can decide

The website thing I dont know much about with the buy out of PRIDE I only use this site the ufc offical site and a few others to get my ufc news

That whole CSAC was handled horribly by all parties involved the CSAC bumbled and stumbled there way to a decision and Dana White shouldve kept quiet on the matter till the ruling was passed

And finally I dont have a problem with them killing off Pride because of the financial situation plus there tv contract with FSN is up very shortly if its not already i do however have a problem with the ufc not buying out the fighters contracts dont get me wrong they brought over some great guys but people like Fedor and Gomi slip away to other organizations

All in all good article with alot of good points and if nothing else this article gives ufc and mma fans something to debate til next year

]]> By: Yuushi http://mmafrenzy.com/1711/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-of-2007/#comment-15943 Yuushi Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:27:32 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/12/18/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-on-2007/#comment-15943 Apparently, someone hasn't been keeping up with the news when it came to the UFC buyout of PRIDE. The UFC DID buy the contracts of the PRIDE fighters (it was part of the deal), but some fighters outright refused to fight for the UFC. So those fighters had no choice but to wait out their contract. Zuffa wanted to keep PRIDE alive, but they couldn't get a TV deal. Call it the leftover reason as to why PRIDE lost their TV in the first place, or Ethnocentric Japan just refusing to deal with an American controlled entity, but to lump all of PRIDE's problems on the UFC is just asnine. Apparently, someone hasn’t been keeping up with the news when it came to the UFC buyout of PRIDE. The UFC DID buy the contracts of the PRIDE fighters (it was part of the deal), but some fighters outright refused to fight for the UFC. So those fighters had no choice but to wait out their contract.

Zuffa wanted to keep PRIDE alive, but they couldn’t get a TV deal. Call it the leftover reason as to why PRIDE lost their TV in the first place, or Ethnocentric Japan just refusing to deal with an American controlled entity, but to lump all of PRIDE’s problems on the UFC is just asnine.

]]> By: Accomando http://mmafrenzy.com/1711/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-of-2007/#comment-15933 Accomando Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:18:40 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/12/18/the-ufcs-ten-biggest-letdowns-on-2007/#comment-15933 "...Note to the UFC: Watch 24/7 Mayweather-Hatton and take notes. ^^^ are u serious ???? I cant believe somebody would wright this..." Po, are you serious??? Did you watch any of the 24/7 shows? The UFC fight build up is usually weak and as evidenced, I barely realize that Hughes/GSP III and Silva/Liddell and Sokodjou are fighting, none of this is even being discussed, and the fight is 10 days away. The UFC does need to take notes from the 24/7 HBO prodcution. “…Note to the UFC: Watch 24/7 Mayweather-Hatton and take notes.

^^^ are u serious ???? I cant believe somebody would wright this…”

Po, are you serious???

Did you watch any of the 24/7 shows? The UFC fight build up is usually weak and as evidenced, I barely realize that Hughes/GSP III and Silva/Liddell and Sokodjou are fighting, none of this is even being discussed, and the fight is 10 days away.

The UFC does need to take notes from the 24/7 HBO prodcution.

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