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UFC Lightweight Division: Aftermath of The Ultimate Fighter 6 Finale

Posted by Kris Karkoski on Dec 13, 2007 at 9:19 am ET9 Comments

In the wake of The Ultimate Fighter 6 Finale that aired on Saturday night, the UFC’s lightweight division went through a small shuffling of the talent into its different echelons. We saw the addition of a new fighter to the UFC in Mac Danzig, a solid veteran MMA fighter. In addition to Danzig, Clay Guida and Roger Huerta both battled it out in arguably a candidate for the best fight of the year. Where do these guys stand in the lightweight division after the fight? Although the division seems to be set in stone near the top, Huerta’s potential opponents seems to be many and Guida’s stance in the division is in question. Let’s take a good look at all the possibilities.

Roger Huerta

Huerta’s miraculous comeback from a devastating beatdown in the first two rounds of his battle with Clay Guida on Saturday night proved that the lightweight can hang in the cage with some of the best. Although Guida has had some battles in which his standup proved to be lacking, he is the ultimate litmus test in cardio and endurance. If you can actually endure the onslaught of Clay Guida, your potential in the lightweight division is very high.

What’s next for Roger Huerta? With Frankie Edgar defeating Spencer Fisher, a solid veteran that Edgar put on his back at will, there is a potential for that type of fight to happen. The problem is that Edgar has less experience and his style isn’t exactly something that Huerta would have a terrible problem with. Edgar’s takedowns would likely be nullified by Huerta’s takedown defense and ability to scramble off the ground back to his feet.

More intriguing matchups I’ve heard are another solid veteran in Spencer Fisher, Kenny “I Finish Fights” Florian, Hermes Franca when he returns down the road, Joe Lauzon, a new 155′er in Diego Sanchez, and a returning Din Thomas. Spencer would probably get taken down and pounded out, Lauzon is being built up, and Florian is apparently close to in the title picture. Out of those three names, Florian seems like a decent style matchup. Florian is known for having much improved skills in nearly every fight he’s in. His standup has improved, and his ground game has always been above average. He can land nasty elbows in the guard and while on his back. Would that be a good matchup for Huerta? I think it has the potential to be a good fight, but for me, Huerta has more experience and seems to be a bit more aggressive. But hey, I paid for not betting Florian in his past fights.

Sanchez is an interesting pick, but Huerta will have some standup advantages. Diego’s wrestling and ju-jitsu is great, but Huerta has proven to be very skilled at avoiding being choked out or having a limb in danger of breakage. Without jumping into the upper echelon of the division, Huerta could see some fairly good matchups style wise in his future as the UFC builds him up for entry into the Central American market. Will we see him fighting the likes of Joe Stevenson, BJ Penn, or Sean Sherk any time soon? Highly unlikely.

Clay Guida

Let me just say that Clay Guida is a relentless warrior who makes me smile when I see his tenacious style in the cage. He continually gets matched up with some of the toughest opponents in the UFC, and he gets paid barely above the incoming talent. He also constantly delivers great fights, and without a doubt, the UFC has made more money off of him that he has made from them.

So, where do Clay Guida go from here? In fairness, Guida was winning his fight with Huerta decisively through two rounds. Can he somehow break into the upper echelon of the Lightweight division? I think he has the endurance and relentlessness to overwhelm many fighters, but he still lacks in his striking. He definitely needs some striking training to supplement his brutal takedown style. If he can improve his striking significantly, he would be on the redemption path on his way back up the chain.

With that said, however, Guida should still consider a drop down to 145 lbs. He would be a monster in the 145 lbs. division of WEC, and could give someone like Urijah Faber a run for his money. Many columnists have looked toward this idea, and it definitely has merit.

One aspect to the move to the WEC is that Guida’s fan favorite status may be able to pull fans to watch Versus. It could be a brilliant marketing move and could set up some great fights, much like WEC 31 on Wednesday should produce. Guida’s name may be a bit more recognizable to fans than the current WEC stable of fighters. The U.S. fanbase is unfamiliar with Paulo Filho, which is unfortunate. Put Guida in with some of the best in the WEC. Add in the fact that Pulver has moved over and has slapped his name in the mix, WEC should begin to see an increase in viewership of their cards.

Mac Danzig

One of the more interesting discussions I’ve had is the idea of Mac Danzig competing in the Lightweight division. He won the TUF 6 Finale and was awarded the contract in the UFC, but fought the entire show at 170 lbs. That should tell you the weakness of the fighters that were on the show. Especially during the Finale, Speer was cutting from at least 190 lbs. to 170 lbs. while Danzig walks around at 170 pounds, and Danzig still proceeded to dominate Speer.

Danzig will move down to 155 pounds now, and should make an impact in the division to an extent. Although I believe Danzig can last against any of the top fighters in the division, I think his skill level is still below some of the top fighters in the game right now in that division. Danzig was handled by Hayato “Mach” Sakurai in his last fight, but he was obviously overmatched in the standup game and still managed to take it to the second round. He has some staying power during his fights, and as I’ve said in the past, that always increases your potential to pull off an upset and increase your chances to win.

Names, what names can we throw into the hat? The interesting concept here is the UFC’s handling of Danzig’s experience. Will they throw him in with better competition due to his vast experience or will they feed him some wins because of his TUF winner status? I think we’ll see him in the latter against past TUF fighters from the last Lightweight show. It is possible to see him against some mid-tier fighters however since there are many that could match up stylistically with him.

I won’t say whether or not Danzig will be in the title picture in a year or so, but if he is, I doubt that he can compete with some of the great talent near the top. He can probably last through the fight and have a chance at winning, but I believe his skills aren’t honed enough yet to put him over the top. With a great training camp and some improvement in his standup, it’s possible.

Final thoughts

Huerta could make a good run in the Lightweight division, although I’m not entirely convinced he has all the tools to make someone like BJ Penn look bad. Guida could be a tremendous fighter with some good striking techniques. He could also be a promotional gold mine for the WEC, although the Versus TV deal limits their exposure. Guida to 145 would be a good move.

Danzig can be a very good upper-echelon fighter if he can get with a training camp that can improve the areas in which he lacks tremendous skill. Notably, his standup isn’t unbelievable, but it does add to his skillset in a dangerous way. Look for Danzig to either fight some TUF alumni for a couple fights or be thrown into the mid-tier range where he can actually string together some wins. It should be interesting to see what the UFC does with him.

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9 Comments »

  • Accomando says:

    “…he gets paid barely above the incoming talent…”

    LR, while his base pay is low, I heard from a source that he did pretty well from his fight with Huerta before he even stepped in the ring. Sponsors, fight of the night bonus, a paid post-fight party appearance, Guida made out pretty good after the fight, no one needs to worry about that.

    I think Guida is young, relentless, and definitely can move up the 155 lb food chain, 3 wins in row and he would be right there in title contention. I suspect he will get a “Doug Evans” type opponent in his next fight to maximise his chances for a win, and build him from there. The UFC doesn’t want Guida to go anywhere.

  • holy_dave says:

    I agree that the UFC doesn’t want to see Guida go anywhere else, but the WEC isn’t really “somewhere else”. They are definitely pushing the WEC right now, and another UFC veteran like Guida would draw a lot more viewers. Now the only thing I have a big problem with in this piece is that you honestly think that Huerta is on the level that he can defend Frankie Edgar’s takedowns at will. I think not. I would love to see that fight, but then the only hope the UFC has for reaching the Latin/Mexican crowd would be reduced to getting ground and pounded for 3 straight rounds.

  • scotchydow says:

    What happened to Huerta getting a match with the winner of Penn/Stevenson? At the very least, Sherk should have to fight Huerta for #1 contendership.
    On another note- The UFC could have an all wrestleing event (lame, I know) Frankie Edgar vs. Sean Shrek(sp-lol),Randy Couture vs Jeff Monson, and Brock Lesnar vs Kirt Angle. That would be promoted as “The most boaring night in fights” or “Red hot man on man action”

  • Red says:

    A fight between Danzig and Huerta would be sick! I think Stevenson has a chance to upset Penn due to Stevenson’s cardio. I don’t know if Penn can go five rounds, but Penn could finish Stevenson at any point in the fight. I will go out on a limb and say Stevenson by division; then the division is even more up in the air because the fight everyone wants to see is Penn vs. Sherk.

  • jorgi to says:

    I think Huerta needs to work on his TD defense. He got taken down at will by Guida. He only avoided the TD when Guida was rocked and was forced to try and take him down. Edgar would take him down at wil. Huerta should take on Tyson, than we will see where he goes next.

  • The Axe says:

    Good point with Danzig – he is a smart fighter and well-rounded, but there seems to be a ceiling for him as he is not the most physically gifted athlete in the division. However, he is in a good training camp (XTreme Couture) now so maybe we’ll see him banging like Alessio.

  • RevJames says:

    Huerta should be only one more big win from a title shot. Florian or Edgar make the most sense. The only reason it might not go that way is because they want to promote him as an up-and-coming superstar awhile longer. Once he fights, and loses to Penn, he’ll lose a little luster. But I think he can beat just about everyone else, though Edgar, Florian, and Stevenson would be very tough tests. I’d love to see him take out Sherk, as well. He does need to improve his take-down defense, but that shouldn’t be tough because he comes from a wrestling background. He’s just been taking those skills for granted. Can’t do that against anyone of the above guys and I think he knows that.

  • Vampslayr says:

    Huerta has earned a spot among the elite at 155. Guida continues to win fans every time he fights. I don’t care if he never gets a title shot, just make damn sure his fights are televised every time. Danzig may be the real thing, but we won’t know for sure until he has 2 or 3 more fights to see how he stacks up at 155.

    Steer needs a lot of work, especially in submission defense. He’s a little raw, but with proper training could become something more than just an average fighter in the UFC at 170. I think George still has the best potential of the group that will come in at 170 from the show, of course time will tell.

  • ravine says:

    i jus seen the comment of lesnar and angle would be boring…cant be bothered to go back up and read it cuz im lazy and the beer makes it hard…angle vs lesnar is a fight i would actually pay to see rather then free satelite lol

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