Ed Soares: Chael Sonnen Should Rematch Demian Maia Before Fighting For Title
Ed Soares, the manager for UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva, tells Sportsnet that he feels Chael Sonnen, who defeated Nate Marquardt on Saturday to earn the next title shot against the winner of an April matchup between Silva and Vitor Belfort, should first rematch Demian Maia before fighting for the title:
“At the moment, we are completely focused on Anderson’s title defense versus Vitor Belfort (at UFC 112 on April 10 in Abu Dhabi).
We’ve spoken with Chael on many occasions and have the utmost respect for him. He’s never really come across in this manner, and it’s obvious he’s just drumming up hype in hopes to get a bout with Anderson. We are fine if this is what the UFC wants, but if you look at this logistically, Sonnen should fight Demian Maia first. Demian beat up easily, by submission, so why not make them fight first, to determine who gets a shot at the title?
It’s funny, but really, who actually listens to what Chael Sonnen has to say? The only time people listen is when he talks about Anderson. Who is he, really? If you walk down the street and you mention his name, does anyone really know who this guy is? Likely not, but if you mention Anderson Silva, people know the name.
Chael’s also said a few things about Anderson’s choice of clothes and that he wears earrings, didn’t he? Sounds to us like he may have a crush on Anderson.”
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Pictured: Ed Soares and Anderson Silva (via Combat Lifestyle)
Tags: Anderson Silva, Chael Sonnen, Ed Soares
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why is A Silvia camp ****ing so much.. i wanna be a professional boxer/ i dont wanna fight Machida… i know the spider is unstopable right now..i wish GSP could move up and kick his a$$..
lol really… incorrect negative buddy… anderson would rule gsp, and there both great fighters and champs, but silva would be untouchable
Silva is not the best fighter. he is the best stand up counter fighter. he won’t fight you if don’t throw a punch.
yes he will, how many submissions has he had ???
BEGIN RANT:
Ed Soares STFU! This is the same bull**** you pulled with Nate Marquardt and Dan Henderson…. Why the hell does anything you say matter? We know, noone is deserving of fighting your boy, Anderson. We get it. Well, to you I say… TOUGH ****! Dana promised the winner a title fight, so suck it up and deal with it.
I find myself hating Anderson Silva and his camp more and more as time goes by because of his dickhead of a manager who thinks he is king ****!
I am seriously hoping Silva gets KO’d by Belfort and Sonnen gets the next title fight, so Silva has to wait a year or more before he gets a rematch. Then Silva can move up to light heavy and get picked apart by Lyoto Machida.
END RANT!
I agree, hating him more and more as time goes on and mostly because of his camp trying to play matchmaker. Any guy that has taken this much time off since his last fight (it will be 8 mos. in April) or last title defense (12 mos. in April) should STFU and fight who they tell him to.
Stop going to 205 if you’re gonna refuse to fight for that belt against your BFF Lyoto, whats the point? All it does is cause him to complain about his elbow for 6 mos. and make it longer between his title defenses, hurting the division. His last exciting fight at 185 was 2 years ago against Hendo, who he refused to rematch. Both fights at 185 since almost got him booed out of the building. For someone who hasn’t entertained us at 185, he and his camp have an awful lot to say.
so you would fight your bestfriend… dont sound like much of a friend
he has the same camp as machida, they must be doing something right lol… i agree with anderson, why fight someone you already destroyed ‘whats the point’ to embarass them again ??? complaining… have you ever been in a fight, or even hurt, elbows, shoulders, collar bones, joints, ect… that kinda stuff hurts and takes time to heal… for example brock lesnar, patrick cote, ect… dont be upset that anderson silva is ‘bad to the damn bone’ oh and peeps didnt boo anderson, they booed the contenders, i didnt hear silva getting booed after he knocked out griffin… so in other nice words… boo you !
Fights for titles are different from other fights. Even the AKA guys would fight each other for titles. They won’t fight otherwise, but titles change the equation entirely.
Oh, and as far as getting booed, I don’t hold the Cote fight against him, seeing the unusual circumstances surrounding the end of the fight.
Cesar, for the UFC championship? I would fight my own brother, father, son, cousin, best friend
He hardly destroyed Hendo, Hendo won the first round and got caught late in the 2nd, he exposed some of Silva’s game. And yes, he did get booed in the Cote fight, it should have been a 1st round KO, and he just kind of hung out for 3 rounds, barely engaging.
As for healing injuries, these guys are being treated by some of the top medical staff in the game, this long for some elbow cleaning? Seriously?
I have no doubt that Silva is one of the top 5 fighter in the world, and is bad to the damn bone as you put it. But when you go a year without defending your title and monopolize a title that should be defended at least 3-4 times a year, you should have no right to come out and complain who you should be fighting.
A couple of things to consider here.
First, you’re totally entitled to hate the game, especially the one that Ed Soares runs on Anderson Silva’s dime, but hating the player, meaning Silva himself, makes little sense.
While he should be called out for allowing his handler/s too much latitude in their public statements regarding his fights, he hasn’t done anything worth “hating” him over.
Think of it as Silva is suffering from Fedor Syndrome.
Second, BlackHouse, Ed Soares’ joint, has stated in the past that Silva and Machida won’t fight, because they’re friends, training partners, etc.
So if you want to see Silva at 205, thats fine, but don’t expect to see him “get picked apart by Lyoto Machida” anytime soon.
Better to see Silva get savaged by Rampage Jackson IMO.
Best way to resolve this noise with Ed Soares is for you and everyone who feels similiarly to pull for guys like Belfort, and Shogun Rua, in his rematch with Soares’ client Machida.
Also, Soares has his hooks into WEC 145 goldholder Jose Aldo, so pulling for Urijah Faber to win his title back would also help to severely undercut Soares’ stroke with Zuffa.
And seeing Forrest Griffin come back in style by beating the sh!t out of LittleNog wouldn’t suck out loud either…
soares to the rescue..
Hope that doesnt happen chael should get the winner of vitor and silva. Otherwise its just jumping in circles for the next shot.
Maia, okami and nate are imo the top middleweights in ufc besides silva and belfort and chael beat two of them that puts him there for the next shot.
Any truth to the rumor that Soares wants to co-promote the next fight? (jcohl hit the Fedor syndrome right on the head!)
GSP would need to move up to kiss anderson ass…
No personal attacks.
-Justin
thats what i said, read before u write
No personal attacks.
-Justin
this is not a personal attack its a fact.
anderson isn’t this anderson isn’t that.
bull ****ing ****. he’s the best fighter in the world.
mentioning GSP in the same breathe is a personal attack on anderson.
You called supermin a “fool” that was the personal attack. You are now on moderation.
Anyone else here think dana expected nate marquardt to beat chael sonnen hence why saying the winner getting a title shot. Im thinking dana is regretting saying that
I agree that Dana expected Marquardt to win, but I’m not sure that he is regretting promising the title shot.
I second the motion for Ed Soares to STFU. I hope Chael’s title shot does not turn out like Hendo’s.
you mean the one where ZUFFA didn’t re~sign Henderson before UFC 100 and he Bisping’d the hell out of well Bisping? Then ZUFFA and Henderson got into price war with one another and he (Henderson) decided to sign with another organization? that title shot?
I thought that that before contract negotiations started they said that Vitor would get the next title shot when it was promised to Henderson, right?
Negotiations were likely on going, but there was no agreement reached before the fight.
Henderson has said he felt disrespected by Dana, but I think that’s as much to do with not getting paid what he asked as it is about the title situation.
Well not exactly (and I’m not trying to argumentitive)
UFC 100 was on July 11,2009 (Hendo v Bisping) where well if Hendo wins he gets in line for another shot at Silva blahblah blurr
Afflicition III was set up to be held on Aug 1,2009 which was Belfort’s last contracted fight under Afflicition MMA and he was set to face off against Jorge Santiago…
But here is our article on the situation
http://mmafrenzy.com/10736/dana-white-says-vitor-belfort-could-return-to-ufc-confirms-machida-rua-for-october-24-in-los-angeles-still-wants-liddell-to-retire/
Thanks for the info guys
Ether hey no worries at all
Ed Soares aka Joe Silva/dana white, is truly amazing. Who is this guy to say who fights who and why? Your job is to manage your fighter, and sure the guy is just giving his “opinion” but how many times have we heard dellagrotte,jackson,miletich or any other camp say “this guy should fight so and so and THEN he can fight our guy”.
Dare I say, that soares is trying yet again, to DUCK another THREAT to mr unstoppable?
Chael Sonnen, can say what he wants, but imho it isn’t the sudden “trash talking” or what not that’s earned him a possible shot at the mw title. It’s the fact that he ran through okami and marquardt and miller. Maia was on a great run, then got ktfo, and then had a lackluster/boring fight against miller. I don’t think he should get chael at all. And i love damian maia, so i’m just being honest.
This guy always gets under my skin dude.
hahahaha Anderson ducking Chael when he is signed to fight Vitor Belfort(who mind you also would walk all over Sonnen)
Soares is the MANAGER giving his OPINION on who HE thinks should fight HIS fighter IF his fighter gets past BELFORT……
people are funny, just call it what it is you don’t like the man for speaking his OPINION and everyone is doing it on a message board, ironic?
Anyways keep it classy FrenZy I don’t want to start putting my name on everyone’s comments… And for the people that are flying by to well speak on the situation, NO PERSONAL ATTACKS and NO FIGHTER BASHING, for my members lets do this properly
I am a HUGE Anderson Silva fan but at this point he seems to be pulling the same bull as Pretty boy floyd…
My personal take on the matter is that, Soares is Silva’s manager, and his job is to try to secure the biggest paydays for his fighter as possible. In that regard, trying to play Joe Silva and dictate who Silva fights is technically part of the job. That said, you don’t hear the managers for pretty much any other champs, or any other champs themselves, trying to say “This person doesn’t deserve a title shot, he should fight so and so to earn it.” In all actuality, Soares is shooting himself in the foot by downplaying the challengers. If a fighter is given a title shot against Silva, then Soares goes out and says “blah blah, this fighter doesn’t deserve a title shot,” that’s counter productive in putting money in Silva and his pockets. You notice that GSP, and BJ Penn always talk about how big of a challenge their next opponent will be, even if we know better, and that’s because they get it. The more you say your opponent DOES deserve a title shot, the more likely it is people will tune in to watch. The more that Soares talks about how an opponent DOES NOT deserve the shot, the less likely it is people will tune in to watch.
Of course, Belfort could pretty well solve this situation by knocking Silva out in April, and that’s what I’m pulling for. Not because of Soares and what he’s said, but I just like Belfort better.
Logic, why I never…….
Sonnen is more deserving of a title shot of the winner Silva/Belfort than Dan Hardy is of GSP but if you look at GSP he is taking this challenge seriously and Giving Hardy more credit than most Frenzies do. I think Silva needs to learn from this or he may get the Serra lesson GSP got a couple years ago. Not say Sonnen is Serra but he would be the major underdog in that fight, even though i think Sonnens style is the style to beat Silva. But as you said before Justin, Belfort could pretty well solve this situation by knocking out Silva in April.
Good call Brent!
Above, the two people called one another “fools” that is a personal attack. You’re allowed to debate people, and say you think they’re wrong, etc. Just not calling people names, and we frown on saying someone is “high” or “on drugs” as well. Not sure what you’re referring to about the forums and personal attacks, though.
Can we all bash Ed Soares as it isn’t technically “fighter” bashing?
C’mon, just one thread only? 
Just kidding.
I agree, Soares is so f’n annoying with his “this fighter doesn’t deserve a shot and that fighter doesn’t deserve a shot. These two fighters should fight before they get a shot.” Yet, there was talk coming out of his camp about fighting Frank Mir and other heavy weights. What makes Silva and Soares think that they deserve a shot at a former champ two weight classes above him? They want Silva to be regarded as the best but they want to pick the fights in the 185 division and he won’t fight the champ in the 205 division cause they are friends. Shut up and fight Silva!
The Idea that Anderson Silva doesn’t fight is mind blowing to me honestly, or that he isn’t a company man. I understand that alot of people aren’t as insane about the sport as I’am (and no I’m not saying I know everything in the world about MMA, but just hear me out),,, but lets be honest gents o ya and I haven’t forgot about the ladies ya know you are out there, if you are here at the FrenZy you either are what some would call a hardcore fan or you are new to the sport and wish to learn from others, yet most of these so called N0ob’s(newbs,newbzzz) “lurk” for awhile then join the FrenZy slowly.. O and there are trolls and they just suck…
Point is this people always say defend your belt or what about the MW division Anderson stop being greedy and jumping up to the LHW division we all know you won’t fight for the belt (BlackHouse wut wut), well there was this little org named Affliction MMA that was putting on this PPV that was headlined by the great FEDOR.. Now Dana White likes to “counter program” and so he asked Anderson Silva to fight on a “free card” on SPIKE tv (cuz he loves us fans)
Anderson stated that he couldn’t cut the weight, well White said fight at 205 he said ok then proceeded to attempt brain surgery with his fist on Irvin and won in like 2 minutes (7/19/08 google it) Anderson Silva did what his boss’ asked him to do…
Next was two what some would call “lackluster” title defenses.. the one I will focus on is the boot scootin boogey known as Leties v Silva, ya know the one where Silva’s weakness of BJJ was going to found by the great Leites, and then Silva punched and kicked him got out of Leites grapples and well Leites didn’t want to play anymore and Anderson Silva won that bout without question.. Us the blood thirsty freaks that we are went all ape shhhhh on Anderson (boooo dis man) for not “finishing” Thales Leites (who people thought would just own Silva on the ground mind you cuz well “Silva’s jitz is awful”) and we needed someone that would challenge the MW champ and teach him a lesson..
So the solution, go the back yard and grab the TUF dog that will always bring the fight, I’m talking about the one the only Forrest “MotherFing” Griffin… Fast forward 4 months or so to UFC 101 (What up Eric that sh!t was legandary kid, thx) and everyone was foaming at the mouth Forrest puts on beatings wins the matches he shouldn’t and takes a shot at everything and everyone, hell of a guy too… Then Anderson Silva went all Matrix on his ass and beat the spirit out of Forrest Griffin in one of the most dominating performances in MMA history, so much so that people still complained that well Griffin wasn’t a test for Silva and Silva is a disrespectful punk for doing what he did and how he did (god I wonder what people would think if Ali fought his prime in the 2000’s),then Silva decided to have elbow surgery and take time to heal and will fight Belfort in April defending his MW title……
Anderson Silva has done everyting that the Brothers Ferttita, Dana White and Joe Silva have asked him to do, move weight classes for the company, put his “legend” on the line to fight Forrest Griffin, o and as a great teammate or he says “brother” to Big NOG, Anderson Silva called out Frank Mir after Big NOG’s loss to Mir, go figure that idea..
long story sumed up, remember what happend in the history of MMA, or in the history of a particular career before people start mis remembering what the definition of is, IS….
bravo, nicely said
i have to agree 100% with everything you just said
can never get enough of the spider
Thank you very much
I love you FR!!
You are the air I breathe in the the Frenzy!!
Anyone else hoping that Belfort wins, and then Chael gets his shot against Belfort and wins? Then Chael can say Anderson doesn’t really deserve a title shot as he beat the guy who beat Anderson.
It really sucks though as I really like Anderson, but Ed Soares is making me want Anderson to lose. Usually it’s the fighter’s own big mouth that makes me want them to lose. It’s a shame it’s someone else’s.
Unless MMA turned into boxing, I think that managers should have no say in who their fighters fight. They’re not fighting for WBA, WBO, IBO, UBJODGHE belts, this is the UFC. Dana calls the shots with the help of Joe Silva and that’s the way it is. The same way Anderson got that title shot after beating only Chris Leben on a Fight Night card. If and when Sonnen vs Silva happens there should be no bickering by any sides. You get paid to fight, and paid well in Anderson’s case. You fight for a company that makes your fights so deal with it.
I understand one camp saying this guy doesn’t deserve the shot or whatever (and remember, Rich Franklin said that Anderson initially didn’t deserve the title shot), but to suggest who fights who before fighting your guy is ridiculous.
okay okay geez… why is everbody bashing silva, hes a damn good fighter, if not the best… and he only gets better, so what if he doesnt want to have rematches with anyone one fighter hes faught before, i dont want to see it, id rather see silva fight new opponents… why would he fight his best friend machida, would yall fight your best friend for money, or even nothing, if yes then yall wouldnt be good or great friends to anybody… oh and ed sores is just looking out for his TOP fighter, wouldnt yall do the same, has anybody ever managed before ????????? sonnan is no match for silva, i mean damian maia destroyed sonnan…so yeah… im all about anderson silva and machida, as they are my favorite fighters, and prolly pound for pound the best as of now
we all thought Sonnan was no match for Nate the Great and look what Happened. Im not questioning Silva as a stand up fighter, and i think Silva would rather fight Maia stylistically, but Sonnan could out wrestle Silva with his eyes closed and if Sonnan can decide were the fight is then Silva will be in for one hell of a fight. And i know that Silva beat an Olympic wrestler in Hendo but Sonnan chooses to use his superior wrestling and positioning in his fight where Hendo usually uses it to keep a fight standing. So Sonnan maybe the major underdog in this fight but lets see what happens, if it happens
Sonnen will beat Silva. Silva only fights when someone else is trying to punch him. He is a straight up counter fighter and not the guy who goes in there looking to take your head off. Sonnen will take him down and dominate Silva if they fight. Silva might be good at submissions but not as good as Maia so Sonnen will need to tighten up his submission defense and he should be ok in this fight.
There is sooo much there well I don’t know where to start wow, have you seen Anderson Silva fight?
Lets take a look.
Leben comes out throwing punches so he counters which = KO
Franklin is an exception when he out him in the clinch ill give u that
Irvin got knocked out when Silva countered.
Leites didn’t throw a punch so Silva did not throw a punch which was UD win
Cote fight wasn’t that action packed since Cote was throwing ton of punches.
He had 2 “bad” fights in row until he fought Griffen and he came out throwing punches which allowed Silva to counter punch and KO him.
He is not the one who is looking to engage first in a fight is the truth.
Well out of the 15 (t)ko’s the man has I would say he is looking to take peoples head off, and yes he prefers to get his timing down and allows his opponent to swing first, but no he soley isn’t a counter puncher, but I guess that is a difference in perspective…
I loathe Ed Soares. He needs to keep hi big yap shut. Luckily the power of Vitor should do that nicely. Then it’s all up to Shogun and all of a sudden his championship empire is in ruins. Don’t get me wrong, I like Anderson and Machida, but Soares is a black-eye on the sport. It’s because of him and his politicking that Dan Henderson is with Strikeforce (just my opinion on the matter).
Then again, I would like to see Sonnen fight Maia too.
I don’t know what to think anymore.
standard good stuff, yet I personally believe that Todd Beard has been worse for MMA than Ed Soares speaking his opinion on something, just for perspective not to be a dick ya know
Wow….i think Soares is just guilty of having a big mouth. I don’t think he’s representing his client in the best fasion.
I get the idea that “The squeaky wheel get’s the grease.” I mean, I don’t think too many of us can even NAME another manager. (Mr. Fuji doesn’t count) Maybe Soares is trying to get his name out there and using his client’s name to do it. I only say this, because the above statements don’t seem to make much sense. If he projects a future of “Super-Fights” for Silva that will make them both mucho dinero, then I get it. If he wants Silva to be the most dominating champ in UFC history, then I don’t.
I have to disagree with most everyone on this topic… I think Soares has every right to speak his mind as his guy is the champ! Let’s all remmeber, like him or not, Anderson has beaten everyone in his path en route to the UFC longest win streak. At some point, age and time may catch up to him, his cat like reflexes are bound to slow down at some point. However, until it happens, he is the best in the business.
And all of you keep talking about Anderson moving up to 205, and that he needs to stop it and defend his title, blah blah blah. A) In case you have not heard Dana White, he has come and said on numerous occasions that him moving to 205 is what DANA wants him to do, and he just does what the owner wants. Anderson hasn’t asked to move up, Dana wanted him to b/c he has destroyed the competition at 185. B) Let’s also remember that he has I believe the most consecutive title defenses in the UFC history, so he has defended it plenty of times!
Anderson is great for this sport… I am a huge fan, but I personally hope that Belfort catches him and knocks him out — reason being is because I see more super fights at the 205 weight class, and I really want him there for his last few fights, since we don’t know if he will come back when his contract is up. I would much rather see him fight Rampage, Rashad, Shogun, Couture, rather than Maia, Sonnen, and Nate…..
I know all of you hate Anderson b/c he is the best and has been for some time… I don’t want to see him fight Sonnen and destroy him in 2 minutes, that isn’t entertaining enough… Let’s see the best in the business move up, and then who knows, maybe even move up to HW and take out Brock as well!
Brock Lesnar?
Seriously?
If Soares was ever fool enough to sign off on a fight between his boy and Lesnar, the cornermen would have to sift chunks of Silva out of Lesnar’s droppings after the fight.
If you’re actually an Anderson Silva fan, and not just trolling for sh!ts and giggles, then I would think the LAST think you’d want is for the Spider to step into a cage with a championship wrestler and emerging catch-wrestler who will outweigh him by 70 pounds of muscle or so come fight night, and would enjoy nothing more than gNp’ing Silva so hard he sharts in the Octagon…
” B) Let’s also remember that he has I believe the most consecutive title defenses in the UFC history, so he has defended it plenty of times!”
if Lutter wasn’t soo rude to miss weight he would have the record to his own..
While I 100% agree and support both fr702’s and Justin’s efforts to keep things on the up and up here at ther frenZy, I understand how this Ed Soares thing is getting a bit tough to take, and NOT just for the trolls.
And saying that at least Ed Soares isn’t as bad as Todd Beard is like coming home and finding your kid wired on shrooms, and thinking, “well at least it isn’t heroin”.
Now some people, including no less a distinguished frenZy personage as fr702 himself, have repeatedly and eloquently leapt to both Anderon Silva’s and Ed Soares’ defense when they’re attacked by people who think that Silva needs to do his talking in the cage, and not thru his handlers.
And thats a pretty strong defense to try and overcome, lets be honest. No one posts like fr702 when he has the time and motivation to do so.
And while I’m always going to be respectful of our mods both personally and in posts, I’m just not going to sit by and allow someone like Ed Soares to try and unduly influence the course of the UFC MW division.
AGAIN.
If it falls to someone here at the frenZy to be the posted voice of the loyal BUT RESPECTFUL oppostiion in terms of Ed Soares, then so be it, I’ll take a shot at it.
However, just to be clear, the man on the firing line needs to be Ed Soares, NOT Anderson Silva.
Its simply WAY too easy for some noteworthy like fr702 to defend a world-class fighter like Silva who’s pretty much done it all.
Focusing on Ed Soares keeps the issue where it needs to be, and allows us to fire on Soares with him receiving cover from Silva and Silva’s supporters.
To begin, regardless of who fought who and why, the optics of this is just plain awful, once again.
Maybe Anderson Silva, like Fedor, doesn’t realize that his good name is being dragged into the muck with Ed Soares reputation, but for someone like me that puts the sport before the goals and needs fo a single fighter, seeing a future Hall of Famer and titled champion made to look like he’s ducking certain fighters, who he could in all likelihood beat, is unacceptable in the extreme.
Once again we have Soares shooting his mouth off in the MMA media, and attempting a bit of de facto matchmaking.
First he tried, and succeeded, in swerving Nate Marquardt out of a promised title shot, and now he’s trying to do it to Chael Sonnen.
And no amount of “explanation’ing” from Silva supoorters or the UFC is going to change that. I’m sorry.
Marquardt got screwed.
End of story.
Now he wants to make Dana White look like a liar AGAIN by having him wave off Sonnen in favor of a fight with Demian Maia, which makes no sense, because Sonnen just pounded the bejeezes out of Marquardt, the guy who beat Maia in like 40 seconds.
Its irrelevent to this specific issue that Maia beat Sonnen a year ago.
So why does Ed Soares feel the need to comment? He’s not Maia’s handler, to the best of my knowledge, so why is his name coming out of Soares’ mouth?
I can tell you why.
Because he got his way the first time, so he’s going to the well again.
He managed to swerve Marquardt, and its not like his input didn’t make negotiations between Hendo and the UFC go any smoother.
Its just too simplistic to believe that it was only money that kept Hendo out of the UFC, and moreso I think the people using that as a defense KNOW so.
Sure, Hendo wanted coin, no two ways about it.
But he also wanted his promised title shot, and probably for Dana [a man he considered a personal friend] to publicly tell Soares to STFU, which wasn’t going to happen.
So, Hendo walked, and Soares deflected a potential challanger.
Or am I really assumed to be SO criminally stupid as to believe the 2 issues had nothing whatsoever to do with each other?
As far as I can determine, the only thing Anderson Silva is guilty of is the same thing Fedor is guilty of, and thats allowing his handlers too much freedom with his name and reputation, if you follow.
Its one thing if Anderson Silva specifically ASKS Ed Soares to go out there and d!ck around with the UFC matchmaking process and wave off certain challangers, but I personally don’t see that happening. Silva has never struck me as chicken-hearted, or otherwise unwilling to do right by the UFC or his fans.
Ed Soares, on the other hand, feels the need to comment, and probably without clearing it thru Dana White’s office beforehand, on fighters beyond his control.
Soares needs a reality check in that without the UFC his boy Silva would be the the baddest 185er in DREAM, and probably a lot poorer and less famous than he is now.
Soares needs to let Joe Silva do the job that Dana White pays him to do, and trust that his boy will finish Marquardt or Sonnen the same way he’s finished everyone else that has stepped into the cage with him.
THAT makes Silva look a lot better than Soares trying to pull strings and play politics in the UFC.
Its clear that Soares is trying to work some sort of power play because he has several Zuffa champions and contenders in[Black]house.
What would help Dana out in dealing with Soares is if Faber finishes Aldo, and Rua throws Machida another beating.
Plus I’m sure it would be fun for him and the Fertitas to sit front and center as Forrest Griffin works LittleNog like a $20 trick.
This is yet another case of Soares overstepping his boundries, and I think quite honestly its up to Dana White to give him a literal and very public smack in the mouth, by commenting along the lines of, “when I want Ed Soares’ opinion, I’ll fu<king ask for it. Meantime, he should concentrate on letting ME run the fu<king UFC, and HE should worry about his boy not having his sh!t pushed in by Vitor Belfort. Ya feel me, BlackHouse?"
I think something along those lines would ease the concerns of those who feel that Soares is interfering with the 185 rankings and matchmakings, and also remind Soares that he's as big as Dana White allows him to be, and no bigger.
Unless he wants to take Anderson Silva to South Korea or Timbuktu and fight Roy Jones, Jr, or try and secure some sort of sideshow fight in Japan between with M-1 Global with Fedor….
That’s a lot of words jcohl. Meaninful, well-though out words. I like that.
You are bang on about everything. I consider this issue closed.
I consider this issue closed as well.
Everyone has pretty much stated their case, both troll and solid poster alike.
I can’t really address the issue any more factually than I have.
I’m fine with people holding different POVs on this, as long as that POV jives with the facts, or in absence of facts, common sense…
I find it hard to believe that you honestly think Joe Silva and Dana White are doing what they are doing based on what Ed Soares wants. I hope you are remembering that a lot of this is also timing. Sonnen just fought and won Feb 6th. I believe Anderson fights in April — depending on what happens, Sonnen would have to wait til probably August or later for that fight. But what I am trying to get at is a lot of what happens is all timing.
And you saying that Sonnen shouldn’t have to fight Maia again is YOUR OPINION… My opinion is that he should have to fight him, and beat him, to DESERVE the title shot. What we have is a triangle of three guys that all “deserve it”… in the BCS championship, it’s what have you done for me lately… if you have three teams all with one loss that deserve it, it’s the team that lost earliest in the season that gets it, and it shouldn’t be like that in MMA…. That is why I think, Anderson, if he defeats Belfort, should fight one more at 205 while these 3 figure out who deserves the real shot.
Maia beat Sonnen, who beat Nate, who beat Maia….. What makes Sonnen the “obvious” choice to fight Anderson, when none of them have lost a fight to anyone else.
You can dislike Soares all you want, but when Dana said the winner gets a title shot, he was thinking that Nate would dominate the fight… in fact, if Soares did talk Dana into dodging a fight with Nate b/c he wasn’t deserving, it looks like he was right… as he just got destroyed! So way to go Soares, looks like he was right in what he thought! And he is right again, Sonnen needs to get past Maia to earn a shot, and Anderson needs another fight at LHW, against either Randy or Rampage
Maia just got KTFOed by a guy who just lost to Sonnen. He doesn’t deserve to be in the same zip code as a title fight.
I was going to point that out, but I figured I’d get scolded by your brother for playing with the underbridge-dwellers again…
Sonnen was easily submitted by Maia….Its a big circle
i wouldnt mind seeing the winner of wandy bisping against sonnen but i dont think that will happen sonnen was pretty banged up after his fight. So he might not mind waiting for the winner of silva and vitor
damn what a stupid thing for silvas camp to say, seems to me they are already looking past belfort and thats how you get beat in the ufc as marquardt did with sonnen. one fight at a time. i cant wait for wandy to beat up bisping and hopefully beating up anderson silva in the future for training with rich franklin prior to their fight at a catch weight. i also think they may put wandy high on the contender list for being a 185er now. chael should definately get the next shot at the belt though before dana pisses off another one of his talented fighters and sends them somewhere else.
Really solid point about BlackHouse looking past Belfort.
I swear if this guy beats Silva Cody over at fighttrends is going to ge a huge RCVA Belfort order from me…
Sonnen has no shot, lets say he takes Silva down, how long before Anderson has him in a triangle, 20 seconds? If Marquardt had any submission offense from his guard he could have beat Sonnen.
So I’m curious, friend.
Are you questioning Nate Marqaurdt’s [BJJ blackbelt] submission fighting skill, which would be odd because he is a 3 time King of Pancrase, and half of his wins are by submission.
Or are you questioning the submission techniques he presumably learns and teaches at both his own MMA gym in Colorado [HAMA], and Greg Jackson’s Submission Fighting, which if memory serves is considered a pretty good MMA camp?
In the UFC he has 2 submissions, one RNC and one guillotine, in 11 fights. Lets not act like he is some kind of submission wizard. If sherdog is accurate his last triangle choke was in 2001. So again, I say he showed no submission offense from his guard. Sonnen could have been caught multiple times, Anderson will be able to take advantage of that(if they fight).
This is what happens when Dana promises title shots before fights assuming there was no chance Marquardt would lose… anyways, I’ve ignored most everything said above so far so here are a few points…
-Sonnen was submitted by Maia at 2:37 of the first round, and it wasn’t as if Sonnen slipped and ended up in a bad position… he was lateraled like a rag-doll and then submitted by Maia who set up a triangle from mount… a Greco-Roman Olympian was THROWN to his back… if anything Sonnen might want his honor back
-If Sonnen does face Maia and were to lose again it doesn’t make Maia the #1 contender
-no one is looking past Belfort in the Silva camp, they’re just referring to White’s comments
and finally… Senor Blanco has only himself to blame for this… he needs to try to keep his mouth shut before fights like this and just allow Joe Silva to do his job. Dana keeps saying people get a title shot if they win (and sometimes I think he does this assuming one of the guys will win easily) and then is occassionally forced to eat his words when the “wrong” guy wins.
I think this is a fair point, Chael has got a massive hole in his game, (susceptible to submissions) so what the point of facing Anderson when he will just get submitted from the guard! prove that he can defend submissions and make the fight worthy!
Of course should Maia win, should he rematch Marquardt to prove he’s not just going to get knocked out?
And around we go again!
Here’s the way I think it should go. Sonnen should rematch Maia and the winner of that should fight the winner of Bisping Wandy fight for the title shot. I just don’t think Chael has beaten good enough caliber opponents to b the #1 contender besides Vitor
Sigh.
Look everyone.
The deal is at some point Ed Soares is just going to have to accept the fact that Joe Silva makes the fights, and Dana White runs the show.
End of story.
If he can’t accept that, then he can take his fighters back to Brazil and try to work something out with Strikeforce or Bellator or DREAM or start his own EFC, which stands for “Ed Soares is Full of Sh!t” Fighting Championship.
HE doesn’t get to decide who his guys fight, Dana White does.
Period.
If you don’t get that, then you probably don’t really understand how the UFC is run.
White cut Soares some slack ONCE because he was dealing with a cranky Hendo and about a thousand and one other issues related to making MMA the biggest sport on the planet.
Those of you posting about Demian Maia, you all just need to remember that he recently got humilitated by the guy Chael Sonnen just threw a wicked beating to Saturday night, so please stop.
You make even less sense than Soares does.
Soares at least has an excuse and a vested interest in d!cking around with the 185 matchmaking process.
FrenZied posters DO NOT.
And Soares’ questioning Dana White’s matchmaking a second time, which is EXACTLY what he’s doing when he makes statements counter to what Dana has already said, make no mistake, and to do so publicly at that, is stupid for both himself and his fighters, who rely on Dana’s and Joe Silva’s good will for fights.
No one fighter, or stable of fighters, is bigger than either the UFC or the sport.
If Ed Soares wants to shoot his mouth off and make his guy Silva look bad in the process, thats his business.
Running the UFC is Dana White’s business.
If he’s confused, or has forgotten his role, maybe he needs a very public reminder, instead of people trying to defend and/or excuse his behavior, which is bad for the UFC and the sport…
some what of a good point… anderson silva is a very very top fighter, and helps ratings, selling tickets and sold out crowds, hate him or love him silva is top dog… just like they offered fedor huge cash just to show up, and not even to win, i highly doubt buddy they will ever get rid of anderson silva unless he goes on a losing streak which has never happend for him, and has been undefeated since 2005, 2006 ??? oh yeah another point ill make is machida vs. silva, it prolly wont happen, ufc has tried and both fighters said ‘NO’, seems like that fight as a fight or even discussion has been dropped… thanks for listenning !!!
Love him or hate him – any thread about Anderson Silva is ENORMOUS!!! Look at the size of this thing.
If he sucked as a champ, this many people wouldn’t have this many things to say about him.