Comments on: UFC Personalities, Judges Speak Out on Hamill-Bisping Decision http://mmafrenzy.com/1223/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/ UFC and MMA News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:24:27 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: SCOTCHYDOW http://mmafrenzy.com/1223/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-3735 SCOTCHYDOW Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:35:37 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/10/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-3735 I am glad you took no offence, cause I mean no harm. I think Chuck fought a lot better than I gave him credit for right after the match, but Jardine surely outscored him with body kicks, and over the top punches. I truely think he has lost a couple of steps over the past year. I sugjested earlyer that he changes camps, to train with new people who will MAKE him train harder. I think Rampage's hand game looks better than it ever did in Pride, and he seems he has his mind focused totally on fighting for once. I think it's just another thing we disagree on, because I think he is going to have a long reign as champ in the UFC. He also has the body type where he could fluxuate between the HEAVYWEIGHT division, and LIGHTHEAVYWEIGHT division. As far as the 10 min rounds, I loved those also, but they won't fly in the U.S. I would like to see a UFC tournament format overseas at least once a year though. I miss the old Vitor also. I remember I thought he was unstoppable, until Couture dismanteled him. I think we have more competitive fights in the UFC with the format they have now, but I would like to see a new way of scoring. And I still love the oldies. #8 "David vs. Goliath" in Puerto Rico was great. Keep watching and keep posting no matter what anyone says(especialy me,lol) P.S. I hope Franklin wins, I put money on him, but he got f-ing destroyed last time! I am glad you took no offence, cause I mean no harm. I think Chuck fought a lot better than I gave him credit for right after the match, but Jardine surely outscored him with body kicks, and over the top punches. I truely think he has lost a couple of steps over the past year. I sugjested earlyer that he changes camps, to train with new people who will MAKE him train harder. I think Rampage’s hand game looks better than it ever did in Pride, and he seems he has his mind focused totally on fighting for once. I think it’s just another thing we disagree on, because I think he is going to have a long reign as champ in the UFC. He also has the body type where he could fluxuate between the HEAVYWEIGHT division, and LIGHTHEAVYWEIGHT division. As far as the 10 min rounds, I loved those also, but they won’t fly in the U.S. I would like to see a UFC tournament format overseas at least once a year though. I miss the old Vitor also. I remember I thought he was unstoppable, until Couture dismanteled him. I think we have more competitive fights in the UFC with the format they have now, but I would like to see a new way of scoring. And I still love the oldies. #8 “David vs. Goliath” in Puerto Rico was great. Keep watching and keep posting no matter what anyone says(especialy me,lol)
P.S. I hope Franklin wins, I put money on him, but he got f-ing destroyed last time!

]]> By: jlogan http://mmafrenzy.com/1223/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-3733 jlogan Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:49:30 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/10/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-3733 no man no prob. what did you think about the liddel fight? im a know about the ufc rules man. i dont even watch that wwe stuff. but i really thought henderson won but by i was going for him. but it was actually a good fight. i have so many ufc dvds man and that robbie lawyer fight with diaz was good as hell. the old ufc when belfort was there is the best. but i know that ufc cant do that, i know about the time limit but you know how people always blaming stuff on the judges. but that would be a good idea for real though or at least make it 10min rounds. the old ufc was better, do you remember when you would see 220lb guys vs 180lbs guys? man that was crazy and the small guys was whippin on them. but i feel you on the review though. u got some points there. rampage shouldve been powering him man if you think about it. it seems like when fighters go to ufc they get soft. rich franklin will continue to dominate his division, i hope bisping dont go to that weight class. but u never know these days right? alright man. tell me what you think. no man no prob. what did you think about the liddel fight? im a know about the ufc rules man. i dont even watch that wwe stuff. but i really thought henderson won but by i was going for him. but it was actually a good fight. i have so many ufc dvds man and that robbie lawyer fight with diaz was good as hell. the old ufc when belfort was there is the best. but i know that ufc cant do that, i know about the time limit but you know how people always blaming stuff on the judges. but that would be a good idea for real though or at least make it 10min rounds. the old ufc was better, do you remember when you would see 220lb guys vs 180lbs guys? man that was crazy and the small guys was whippin on them. but i feel you on the review though. u got some points there. rampage shouldve been powering him man if you think about it. it seems like when fighters go to ufc they get soft. rich franklin will continue to dominate his division, i hope bisping dont go to that weight class. but u never know these days right? alright man. tell me what you think.

]]> By: SCOTCHYDOW http://mmafrenzy.com/1223/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-3732 SCOTCHYDOW Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:15:48 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/10/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-3732 I think your cable box brodcasts a different event than the rest of us. You think Rampage lost to Hendersen? I don't see anyway. He put up a fight, but he was just overpowered. He will be dominant against the middleweights though. About your different types of matches- To get permission from state athletics commisions, you have to have a time limit and rules. I think you need to stick to watching your WWE or F or watever so you can see people wack each other with garbage cans inside a ring that is rapped in barbed wire and on fire. And Robbie Lawler and Nick Diaz are closer to welterweight and lightweight, and also came out of the UFC. You want to see a good match, watch the Nick Diaz/Robbie Lawler fight from the UFC. One of the best fights ever. No offence, I just don't agree with much that you had to say. I think your cable box brodcasts a different event than the rest of us. You think Rampage lost to Hendersen? I don’t see anyway. He put up a fight, but he was just overpowered. He will be dominant against the middleweights though. About your different types of matches- To get permission from state athletics commisions, you have to have a time limit and rules. I think you need to stick to watching your WWE or F or watever so you can see people wack each other with garbage cans inside a ring that is rapped in barbed wire and on fire. And Robbie Lawler and Nick Diaz are closer to welterweight and lightweight, and also came out of the UFC. You want to see a good match, watch the Nick Diaz/Robbie Lawler fight from the UFC. One of the best fights ever. No offence, I just don’t agree with much that you had to say.

]]> By: j logan http://mmafrenzy.com/1223/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-3731 j logan Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:04:18 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/10/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-3731 i think that ufc should have different match types. like the only way you can win is by tapout or knockout. no worries with the judges or anyone complaining. i knew that bisping of whateva his name is was going to win. its like boxing, everytime i turn around jermain taylor always winning in his hometown. i personally thought he loss to ouma. but i thought chuck liddel won versus keith but that just me. but maybe a draw on that fight. the whole hammil fight, bisping ran and barely hit the dude. i think he really suck and if he ddrop weight he is going to lose even more. the lower weight classes have the best fighters. st pierre, rich, the list goes on. he never fought a real ufc guy. but i still think the judges are fixed. they are fans just like anyone of us. and if i would be a judge and my favorite fighter or someone who i liked fight, i would be watching him more and that would play a major part in my results.for example, my favorite ufc fighter is ortiz, if im the judge he wont lose. but rampage vs henderson i thought henderson won by at least 1 or 2 pts. rampage is overated he only is good if there is a ring bcuz he can bounce off the ropes if knocked out. but ufc light and heavyweight division sucks. make them all lose weight and fight the big dawgs or get some fighters from elite(robbie lawler, nick diaz, those are the real fighters. (UFC GET SOME TALENT PLEEEEEEEEAAAAAASEE!!!!!!!! I M TIRED OF SEEING ONE GOOD FIGHT AND PAYIN FOR IT. START DRAFTING FOOTBALL PLAYERS, WRESTLERS FROM WWE AND BOXERS OR SUMTHIN. BUT U KNOW WHAT IM THE UFC BIGGEST FAN. i think that ufc should have different match types. like the only way you can win is by tapout or knockout. no worries with the judges or anyone complaining. i knew that bisping of whateva his name is was going to win. its like boxing, everytime i turn around jermain taylor always winning in his hometown. i personally thought he loss to ouma. but i thought chuck liddel won versus keith but that just me. but maybe a draw on that fight. the whole hammil fight, bisping ran and barely hit the dude. i think he really suck and if he ddrop weight he is going to lose even more. the lower weight classes have the best fighters. st pierre, rich, the list goes on. he never fought a real ufc guy. but i still think the judges are fixed. they are fans just like anyone of us. and if i would be a judge and my favorite fighter or someone who i liked fight, i would be watching him more and that would play a major part in my results.for example, my favorite ufc fighter is ortiz, if im the judge he wont lose. but rampage vs henderson i thought henderson won by at least 1 or 2 pts. rampage is overated he only is good if there is a ring bcuz he can bounce off the ropes if knocked out. but ufc light and heavyweight division sucks. make them all lose weight and fight the big dawgs or get some fighters from elite(robbie lawler, nick diaz, those are the real fighters. (UFC GET SOME TALENT PLEEEEEEEEAAAAAASEE!!!!!!!! I M TIRED OF SEEING ONE GOOD FIGHT AND PAYIN FOR IT. START DRAFTING FOOTBALL PLAYERS, WRESTLERS FROM WWE AND BOXERS OR SUMTHIN. BUT U KNOW WHAT IM THE UFC BIGGEST FAN.

]]> By: Mike Nichols http://mmafrenzy.com/1223/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2985 Mike Nichols Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:37:57 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/10/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2985 If Dana doesn't give a [expletive] then why should the fans? The scoring and getting the winner right DOES matter and is essential to the sport. Otherwise its not a sport. How many people would watch March Madness or the NFL if the refs "don't give a [expletive]" and we know the winner is preset? Why watch that. So, if MMA can't let the winner receive the win then I see no reason to watch. I will absolutely boycott the next, and possibly subsequent, UFC pay-per-view to protest this, in my opinion, fixed fight. Will it hurt the UFC - probably not - but at least I don't walk around feeling like some dumb*** who had the wool pulled over their eyes. If Dana doesn’t give a [expletive] then why should the fans?

The scoring and getting the winner right DOES matter and is essential to the sport. Otherwise its not a sport. How many people would watch March Madness or the NFL if the refs “don’t give a [expletive]” and we know the winner is preset? Why watch that.

So, if MMA can’t let the winner receive the win then I see no reason to watch.

I will absolutely boycott the next, and possibly subsequent, UFC pay-per-view to protest this, in my opinion, fixed fight.

Will it hurt the UFC – probably not – but at least I don’t walk around feeling like some dumb*** who had the wool pulled over their eyes.

]]> By: Bankroll http://mmafrenzy.com/1223/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2883 Bankroll Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:58:44 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/10/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2883 Enjoy your bankroll while it lasts Dana, if this kinda shit keeps happening hopefully it wont last very long and then you might " give a s***"!!! Enjoy your bankroll while it lasts Dana, if this kinda **** keeps happening hopefully it wont last very long and then you might " give a s***"!!!

]]> By: Brandon http://mmafrenzy.com/1223/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2878 Brandon Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:31:38 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/10/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2878 I sent Cecil a message on his website asking how he judges fights becasue his scorecard is always retarded I sent Cecil a message on his website asking how he judges fights becasue his scorecard is always retarded

]]> By: Cory http://mmafrenzy.com/1223/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2862 Cory Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:25:42 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/10/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2862 Toasty: "Bisping 29-28. He looked up tight in round 1. Small advantage in round 2. Clearly better in round 3. Hamill winded after round 1- watch the fight again and see. Bisping was the better fighter that night. Lousy fight altogether but Bisping was the better that night." ^^ You sound like Cecil: "He looked tired" so he must be losing right? What fight were u watching? Hamill looked tired, but def. did enough to take the fight. Toasty: "Bisping 29-28. He looked up tight in round 1. Small advantage in round 2. Clearly better in round 3. Hamill winded after round 1- watch the fight again and see. Bisping was the better fighter that night. Lousy fight altogether but Bisping was the better that night."

^^ You sound like Cecil: "He looked tired" so he must be losing right?

What fight were u watching? Hamill looked tired, but def. did enough to take the fight.

]]> By: Kris http://mmafrenzy.com/1223/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2845 Kris Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:05:08 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/10/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2845 I say he's on the rise only because he is undefeated his momentum is negligible and credentials questionable. He is only average at this point and would need to prove otherwise. I say he's on the rise only because he is undefeated his momentum is negligible and credentials questionable. He is only average at this point and would need to prove otherwise.

]]> By: matt http://mmafrenzy.com/1223/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2844 matt Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:00:30 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/2007/09/10/joe-rogan-judges-speak-out-on-hamill-bisping-decision/#comment-2844 that was the worst descison i have seen bisping ran the whole fight.   bonnar descision over jardine was bad but this was terrible...the announcers were basicaly calling it a route for hamil... saying bisping should go to 185.....either way bisping is no rising star.... he an average fighter who has beaten avg competition... that was the worst descison i have seen bisping ran the whole fight.   bonnar descision over jardine was bad but this was terrible…the announcers were basicaly calling it a route for hamil… saying bisping should go to 185…..either way bisping is no rising star…. he an average fighter who has beaten avg competition…

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