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		<title>By: davernginzks</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/1220/ufc-75-open-thread/#comment-50563</link>
		<dc:creator>davernginzks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve recently joined and wanted to introduce myself :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recently joined and wanted to introduce myself <img src='http://mmafrenzy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dronetek</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/1220/ufc-75-open-thread/#comment-2823</link>
		<dc:creator>Dronetek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of you who are saying you don&#039;t see how Hamill could have won, just look at your guy&#039;s face. Hes completely beat up. Thats because Hamill chased him around the wring, beating the hell out of him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of you who are saying you don&#8217;t see how Hamill could have won, just look at your guy&#8217;s face. Hes completely beat up. Thats because Hamill chased him around the wring, beating the hell out of him.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/1220/ufc-75-open-thread/#comment-2790</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also if your comment does not appear immediately it does not mean I rejected it. We have spam filters in effect that often catch legitimate comments by mistake. Submitting your comments once is fine and they will appear soon enough. If you have written something that doesn&#039;t appear after a day send me  an email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also if your comment does not appear immediately it does not mean I rejected it. We have spam filters in effect that often catch legitimate comments by mistake. Submitting your comments once is fine and they will appear soon enough. If you have written something that doesn&#8217;t appear after a day send me  an email.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/1220/ufc-75-open-thread/#comment-2789</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not arguing that Hamill let Mike up as that was pretty clear but Octagon control is not letting someone up. It&#039;s taking them down, controlling them, and using effecting attacks from the mount. Hamill took him down on will but him allowing Bisping back up hurt him on scorecards despite the takedowns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not arguing that Hamill let Mike up as that was pretty clear but Octagon control is not letting someone up. It&#8217;s taking them down, controlling them, and using effecting attacks from the mount. Hamill took him down on will but him allowing Bisping back up hurt him on scorecards despite the takedowns.</p>
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		<title>By: DDD</title>
		<link>http://mmafrenzy.com/1220/ufc-75-open-thread/#comment-2787</link>
		<dc:creator>DDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens from here on out will &quot;hopefully&quot; help us all really understand it.
Please be patient with me. We have seen many of these fighters suffer pretty bad and it would be a shame to see it all go to waste over them avoiding a riot where many people could have died. 

PS. Mark let Mike almost up every time. I suggest you watch the fight again if you have any doubt. He let him up just to show him dominance and then took him back down again. No one could reasonably believe otherwise. It makes me suspicious of the posters that say differently. I think they have an agenda they are trying to carry out. Either way, the UFS has lost, 50% of their fans and probably closer to 80%. They can only gel them back by taking the proper action. What that is, I do not know, but it better happen quick or we will never tune in to see the correction later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens from here on out will &#8220;hopefully&#8221; help us all really understand it.<br />
Please be patient with me. We have seen many of these fighters suffer pretty bad and it would be a shame to see it all go to waste over them avoiding a riot where many people could have died. </p>
<p>PS. Mark let Mike almost up every time. I suggest you watch the fight again if you have any doubt. He let him up just to show him dominance and then took him back down again. No one could reasonably believe otherwise. It makes me suspicious of the posters that say differently. I think they have an agenda they are trying to carry out. Either way, the UFS has lost, 50% of their fans and probably closer to 80%. They can only gel them back by taking the proper action. What that is, I do not know, but it better happen quick or we will never tune in to see the correction later.</p>
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		<title>By: DDD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I called them once, a while back, after seeing UFC on TV and it displaying a banner saying UFC Fight Night Live. I watched the whole program to get to the end thinking it was live, only to find out it was not, and there was no disclaimer saying it was not. It really pissed me off because I was ahead of it with PPV and wasted my night. They took my call politely and believe it or not, they actually fixed the problem. I think it was pretty cool I was able to not only get Dana&#039;s office on the phone, but that they took my comments seriously. I feel they have earned at least, at this point, my patience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called them once, a while back, after seeing UFC on TV and it displaying a banner saying UFC Fight Night Live. I watched the whole program to get to the end thinking it was live, only to find out it was not, and there was no disclaimer saying it was not. It really pissed me off because I was ahead of it with PPV and wasted my night. They took my call politely and believe it or not, they actually fixed the problem. I think it was pretty cool I was able to not only get Dana&#8217;s office on the phone, but that they took my comments seriously. I feel they have earned at least, at this point, my patience.</p>
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		<title>By: DDD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, I want a clear simple solution to this all too, but sometimes it is just not that way and you cannot have what you want.
To all of you stating the UFC being dead, me being one of them, and that you will never pay per view again
I know you are mad, but give them a few days to get back to the USA, their phone says they will be back on Monday, and let&#039;s see what they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, I want a clear simple solution to this all too, but sometimes it is just not that way and you cannot have what you want.<br />
To all of you stating the UFC being dead, me being one of them, and that you will never pay per view again<br />
I know you are mad, but give them a few days to get back to the USA, their phone says they will be back on Monday, and let&#8217;s see what they do.</p>
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		<title>By: DDD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, if I suddenly found myself in his position I would be lucky if I did the same as him. My dad was arrested, convinced, and when to prison for fixing horse races. I know first hand how the innocent can be drug into other peopleâ€™s corruption. Putting the safety of the fans first seems like the best and most important thing to do. If I was there at that fight with my children I would have wanted it no other way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, if I suddenly found myself in his position I would be lucky if I did the same as him. My dad was arrested, convinced, and when to prison for fixing horse races. I know first hand how the innocent can be drug into other peopleâ€™s corruption. Putting the safety of the fans first seems like the best and most important thing to do. If I was there at that fight with my children I would have wanted it no other way!</p>
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		<title>By: DDD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then
At short notice, it is announced that the fight goes the other way.
Dana consults his staff and wants to go on stage and scream about it.
He is in hostile territory.
The crowd is drunk.
WTF can he really do, but nothing, if he wants to avoid a riot.
They notify the announcers to not talk about it at all.
If the announces talk about it the fans will hear it there or from friends watching at home over their cell phones.
By NOT talking about it at the time, Dana allows room to address the issue later because he has not publicly taken a position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then<br />
At short notice, it is announced that the fight goes the other way.<br />
Dana consults his staff and wants to go on stage and scream about it.<br />
He is in hostile territory.<br />
The crowd is drunk.<br />
WTF can he really do, but nothing, if he wants to avoid a riot.<br />
They notify the announcers to not talk about it at all.<br />
If the announces talk about it the fans will hear it there or from friends watching at home over their cell phones.<br />
By NOT talking about it at the time, Dana allows room to address the issue later because he has not publicly taken a position.</p>
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		<title>By: DDD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the interest of fairness

I have reversed my position on the overall issue involving the UFC being currupt for the time being.

Let me start by saying I do believe the fight was fixed so you know my position, but
Now sometimes in life, things are a bit more complicated then they appear. Facts can be stranger than fiction. If I talk possibilities here and start with the fact that I do not know all the facts and I am basing this on what I have read in other posts. If the judges were not hired by the UFC, If the two judges were crooked, intimidated, etc.,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the interest of fairness</p>
<p>I have reversed my position on the overall issue involving the UFC being currupt for the time being.</p>
<p>Let me start by saying I do believe the fight was fixed so you know my position, but<br />
Now sometimes in life, things are a bit more complicated then they appear. Facts can be stranger than fiction. If I talk possibilities here and start with the fact that I do not know all the facts and I am basing this on what I have read in other posts. If the judges were not hired by the UFC, If the two judges were crooked, intimidated, etc.,</p>
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