Dan Henderson vs. Nate Marquardt Planned for UFC 105 Main Event
A matchup between middleweight contenders Dan Henderson and Nate Marquardt is being planned to headline UFC 105 on November 14 in Manchester, England, with Fanhouse reporting on Thursday that the UFC is “looking to book” the fight but that bout agreements have not yet been finalized.
Both Henderson and Marquardt are eyeing rematches with 185-pound king Anderson Silva, who could be available to fight by November after failing to undergo a previously-reported elbow surgery that was to sideline him until early next year.
Henderson (25-7), who’s currently a free agent but expected to re-sign with the UFC, is riding a three-fight win streak since his 2008 loss to Silva, including a second-round knockout of Michael Bisping in July. Marquardt (29-8-2), who knocked out Demian Maia in just 21-seconds in August, has also won three-straight and is 4-1 since his 2007 loss to Silva.
UFC 105 is expected to air on Spike TV and also features Michael Bisping vs. Denis Kang and Dan Hardy vs. Dong Hyun Kim.
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Great now will absolutely have a #1 contender. I got Marquardt late 1st round KO/TKO!
not great, one less contender, and didnt marquart lose to thales leites. yes….yes he did. ufc should quit telling dudes that they have title shots when they really dont. hendo vs silva ufc 105, and **** what ed “big mouth” soares says. that guys a fn nobody. why nis he talking. this whole situation wreaks of dana white.
The Nate vs Leites fight was a controversial decision though. Herb Dean calling elbows to the back of the head. Took points from Nate. Thales Leites got his ass kicked in that fight.
Nate by UD… Nate is on a mission. Nobody here can say that nate improves each fight. after beating hendo nate will dethrone the spider..
well, now 105 if officially legit…the end
Henderson said he will turn down ANY fight at 185 unless its for the title! AND he is a free agent!
Two things.
1. Great fight, and I would love to see it, but…
2. After this fight, if Anderson beats the winner, then who does he defend against… Patrick Cote again? Maybe Wanderlei or Belfort can put some wins together and earn a shot… but maybe not. I think it’s a gamble.
This is exactly why they shouldn’t have this fight.
Doesn’t really matter. After Silva beats the winner of Hendo / Marqardt, he moves up to LHW for the rest of his UFC career. Superfights with Rampage or Frank Mir will be much more interesting than rematches @ 185 lbs.
i gotta agree i only see anderson fighting one more time at mdw in his ufc career …then his other fights will most likely be at lhw or hw…..so if someone is gonna take that mdw title from him…it needs to be nate or hendo and it needs to be now
Hendo by UD
Hendo by ass whoopin’! Major ass whoopin’!
I’m sorry, but I just can’t get onboard with this fight.
There is no good discernable reason for these 2 men to be fighting at this time, when they’ve both been promised title shots.
Not only as Justin references that the 185 division loses a legitimate contender, but I feel the optics of this make it appear as if Anderson Silva thru his handler Ed Soares is effecting undue influence on the matchmaking process.
What happened to the Silva elbow surgery?
And why if he’ll be ready by November, as the article states, can he not face one of the two men promised title shots against him?
This is starting to border on the ridiculous, and honestly leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Quite frankly I’d like to see one or both of these men tell the promotion to go fu<k themselves, and find another pair of gladiators to spruce up the 105 Euro-card, and for all concerned parties get on with the business of fighting for the MW title.
In Hendo's case, I'd claim I needed some sort of elbow surgery, but I'll be back to work and ready to sign a contract on November 15th, after the UFC has sorted out their UK mess.
Originally I was none too happy with Hendo waving off Marqaurdt, but upon a taking a longer and broader look at this thing, its clearly obvious to me that there is some sort of behind the scenes power play going on involving Hendo, Marquardt, and Silva, and that Hendo was right to ask for Silva at 185 or move on to 205.
Giving Silva exactly what he asked for shortly after his handler publicly asked for it isn't the greatest way to deal with a fighter beginning to exhibit what I can only consider diva-tude towards the professional aspects of the sport.
Silva remains by all reports an excellent representative of the sport as it relates to the fanbase and the media.
Hopefully the reporting of this is in error, but if its not I'm thinking that Hendo is going to be severely and rightfully pi$$ed off, and take it out on Marquardt, who I see him beating by ref stoppage.
Dude that post is almost enough to give credence to the Frenziers who suggested that we’re the same person in disguise man. Talk about the sourest taste of vinegar on the tongue. I’ve been displaying some (believe me) very reluctant criticism towards some UfC trends or precedents as of late along with madd kudos…but maaaan this appears ugly when you read between the lines.
I’m not going to speculate or conspire, its in my nature to do that in my head and not vocalize until the circumstantial evidence or facts back me up beyond a shadow of a doubt. But between the Soares statement and the “Now I need surgery now I don’t” move…if this involves calculated behind the doors forms of Machiavellian maneuvers…hmm I suppose more power to them at the expense of the fans. And the more controversy and publicity that spurns because of this along with the other issues I raised; the more bucks that get raked in. I gotta analyze this some more to come with anything concrete but WTF is starting to become a recurrent theme with me all a sudden, where recent UFC headlines are involved. Stay tuned…
@jcohl,Dizaster
You guys both know that Ive got mad respect for you, but I dissagree big time on this topic.
First things first. The whole Eldow surgery thing is bull$hit, and if Silva does indeed come november then its obvious him and soares are finding different methods of picking fights. But at this time I think he can. We dont need to beat this anymore than it allready has but ill be quick.
Silva has beat them both. Decisively. He has beat the former 205 champ. Decisively. Hes undefeated in the UFC. So I think he should have some say in defending his belt when there are 2 equaly deserving contenders that he has allready dispacthed of.
Dana knows that the spider has three fight left on his contract. And I know Dana likes money. So if I know Dana he is not going to want his “pound for pound” fighter using 2 of his last 3 fights in rematches with guys he crushed. Instead Dana is going to do everything in his power to make a few of the foloowing things happen
-have the fight with GSP(although this doesnt seem as popular as before)
-have him fight once at HW
-have him fight one more big LHW name like Rashad or Rampage
-”try” and get him to fight Lyoto
These are all the fights that would make Dana the most money and be the most memeorable and I agree 100%. Now here me out if Anderon still had 5-6 fights left on his contravt and hadnt hinted at retiring. He11 even if he had hinted at it Id want to see him fight both these guys again, but at this point in time considering all the circumstances, this fight between Hendo and Marquardt works. The UFC still knows it has the Belfort and Wandy rematch with a #1 contendership on the line, plus everybodys favorite black belt owner Maia is allways a win or 2 away from the top. Maybe when Anderson retires Rich will make one last drop to 185. What im getting at is Silva is on his way out and the MW div isnt going to fall apart as soon as he does. I think after one more loss we could even see “sugar” drop down. Then we realy have a situation on our hands.
I for one have wanted to see this fight for years and IMO there has never been a better time.
carls, really are you already talking about rashad dropping down?…..he is the #2 lhw in the world no way does he drop down…just wait and see how bad he whoops on rampage
Carls
I totally agree with what you said it makes all the sense in the world. Anderson has 3 fights left and they want to make BIG MONEY. Not waste it on 2 of those on rematches.
I mentioned long ago that Rashad should drop to MW back in his Sean Salmon fighting days butttt being that he won the LHW title and now is like #2 or #3 ranked in the LHW division I only see that happening if he loses like 2, 3 fights in a row or something like that. Also if Lyoto crushed him like that uhhhhhh Anderson IMO will do far worse to him.
I dont see why everybody keeps wanting to make Anderson fight Lyoto. Why? Does anyone want to see Wandy/Shogun Rashad/Jardine Swick/Fitch???????? If so then why are’nt there post or topics started or comments about that? With 3 fights left on his contract he is not gonna waste 1 on Lyoto…. HIS TEAMMATE. Why when there are other great fights to be had….
With Hendo/Nate fight you get a true #1 and gives Anderson time to heal his “knicks and bruises” and for he and the ufc to sort things out whether they want him to fight 1 last time at MW or go on to fight other fights.
I see Rashad dropping depending on what happens with his fight with Rampage. if he gets crushed, and Nate loses to Dan, then we just might see him take a run at MW, cause By then anderson will be done with MW and likely MMA.
@ naturaldizaster – I always consider it a compliment when the frenZied question our “individuality”…
@ carls and ot1 – I totally get where you guys are coming from, but if Dana White is going to puppetmaster his way thru this thing, then he needs to make sure he doesn’t get the puppet strings crossed.
Also, White frequently goes on record with a “word is bond” type rap, and an issue like this sort of undermines his credibility, no?
Consider, if White is willing to screw someone like Hendo, and for that matter Marquardt, out of publicly promised title shots, then how are less accomplished fighters supposed to take him at his word going forward?
We can kick this thing around ad infinitum about Silva’s contract and the old, “is it a business or a sport?” routine, but at the end of the day forcing these 2 men to fight, essentially to satisfy Anderson Silva and Ed Soares, is a disservice to both the sport AND its bad for business, because of the trust issue.
This fight needs NOT to happen, at least not until at least ONE of these men receive their promised title shot.
You are right on every point.
This is like the Velaquez-Carwin fight that was rumored for a while. WHY? It takes your #2 and #3 guys in a division and then you have a clearcut title shot for one, BUT the other goes from #2 or #3 to 3 wins away from another title shot and then what. A. Silva rides the pine for 14 months, while the UFC develops another non-contender (i.e. Cote or Thieles) to feed to the wolves while you have 2 potential good fights right here. Also, I’m assuming that Hendo must be getting a pretty good deal after saying he wouldn’t fight at 185 again unless his next fight was A. Silva. I say Nate by UD. Should be a great fight though.
Giving Silva what he wants is ridiculous agreed. But so is giving Hendo a rematch when he demands it based on his beating who? I like Hendo, but he isn’t as good as he thinks he is. The fault lies with Dana though, promising both guys rematches at the same time.
i think the difference here between carwin/velasquez and hendo/marquardt is that both hendo and marquadt have lost to silva in the past, a silva only has 3 fights left before he retires so why do we want to see him fight both ppl who hes beat again. Assuming he wins the 1st rematch
Because it’s been 2 years since he beat Nate and over a year since he beat Hendo? Plus both may come in with new and better game plans making it a totally different fight, potentially?
Hell, by that logic, why would we ever want to see a rematch?
dbiz stop making sense…
I think he means by the nature in which Silva dispatched of these men. Neither one really put up much of a fight, and he can’t really see either man beating Silva in a re-match (that I agree with).
I know everyone makes a big deal about Hendo’s first round against Silva, but re-watching it, you can see that he didn’t really do that much. Fortunately for him, Silva did even less.
Remember, folks, Hendo’s most impressive victory came against a B-Grade fighter who literally walked right into Dan’s game plan. The Spider will not be so foolish.
I love a good re-match, but only when the potential for a different outcome can be realistically expected.
Usually the rematches are good for the even first fight or for the 1:1 situation . But sometimes it’s also good to see rematch if you see somebody progressing fast and much different fighter from the previous fight. I do say Nate gat I big progress from the last fight , but Anderson get even bigger , this why I see the rematch will not change any outcome. For people who saying Hendo was winning the first round , they forget that usually it takes 2 -3 minutes to the Spider’s feelout process, this why Hendo had an advantage , but did not do much with it.
I’m a bit conflicted.I think if silva has a legitamite injury than this fight makes sense,because we’ll have a definative contender for his next fight.But i also agree that it kind of sucks that your taking away another contender for silva.Either way though it should be a good fight and i’m definatly gonna look foward to watching for free.
didn’t say that. Obv the winner of that fight will get the rematch but i said as A Silva only has 3 fights left and one taken with this rematch, I dont particularly want to see him fight 2 ppl who hes already beaten. He wants to cement a legacy as one of the greatest MMA fighters ever and only wants to fight the top guys which has to be said is in LHW and HW divisions. He has crushed the whole MW division
dan henderson in on a mission as well and consider nate a stepping stone to get to anderson silva
I agree, but if the powers that be say the fight has to happen then it will. Well at least they’re not taking away a legitmate contender that Silva has not already defeated. I just hope that Hendo doesn’t take Nate lightly & look past him. But if Hendo comes out focussed like he did against Bisbing then he will knock Nate out. I just want to see Hendo in the ring again against Silva b4 Silva leaves the sport. 3 fights left..
Doesn’t the UFC have a champions clause? It’s says that a champion must continue under his old contract, if he is champion…
Just asking…Thanks!
Oh, and his contract (no matter how many fights there are left, can’t run out?) Soryy, forgot to include that.
THIS CARD IS HORRIBLE!…no what do those idiots have to say…i knew this would turn into a great card
nate vs hendo
biping vs kang
hardy vs hyun kim
matt brown vs james wilks
5th fight on main card i dont know what it is
I take back the comments i made yesterday. I was under the impression bisping/kang was main event. Solid card for a free one. I think nate is gonna pose some serious problems for hendo.
This is a SICK card. I really hope the fighters agree to this matchup. The only thing is idk if Hendo will. Cuz he already said he wants his title shot next. If this fight does go down, i expect it to be a great fight, but i got Hendo winning by decision. He has a similar style as Marquardt, except he has more power in his right hand, and he has better wrestling. Its hard to say if Hendo has more experience, because Nate was in Pancrase for a longtime. I think its easy to say that Hendo has faced better competition than Nate has in his career.
Cant wait!
WOW! Seriously dude, what the f***!
This has left a bad taste in my mouth.
First “i want to see nate vs henderson” said silva.
Then “he’s taking a break but wants to fight next @ hw or lhw(and NOT defend his title till next year)” said soares
Then “i’m having elbow surgery so i will be sidelined till next year”
NOW “A MATCH BETWEEN NATE AND HENDERSON IS BEING PLANNED” reads the the headlines
*in portugese*
“OH WAIT GUYS, I GOT YA! IT TURNS OUT I DON”T HAVE TO HAVE SURGERY AFTER ALL! BUT DID YOU HEAR THE GREAT NEWS THAT HENDERSON VS NATE IS BEING PLANNED?”
THis is ridiculous.
1. I wouldn’t mind watching this fight, but right now this is for sure not the best thing to do. Anderson should get healed up and fight both guys back to back ao we at least have 2 legit title fights at 185.
2. If Hendo-Marquardt happens we will see two quality Contenders eliminate eachother and then after the guy that wins faces Silva, after that fight there will be no clear nor legit justified Contender for the title which would then mean that id Vitor does beat Rich, he would problably be next in line which would kinda suck a$$ if you ask me, OR they’ll put together Wanderlei vs Belfort and try to sell that as a #1 Contenders match with the extra thing that that fight would be a rematch wchich the UFC will milk and ride as their sell point for that fight.
3. The UFC keeps making thses mistakes which by the end of 2010 we will see guys who are not ready nor are worthy, we will begin to see those guys fight for the title because we will be left without true Contenders for title fights.
4. I honestly feel that Silva can beat both Hendo and Nate again, but he hsould fight both guys and run this “2 man Gauntlet”, it’s a better fit for 185, makes for better sell points and storyline PLUS it would give the UFC’s 185 division some breathing room to bring up and set-up future Contenders after Nate and Hendo have their go at the title AND would problably give guys like Maia and Vitor a chance to put a few together and justify fufture title opportunities.
Bad move and poor easy wy out match-making by the UFC.
I know everyone is intitled to their opinion but everyone is freaking out about a good fight. The UFC is buissiness and they know how to run it. Looking at the buissness from the outside you might have some problems but they are not going to share their inside negotating and work with us. They have plans that we have no idea about.
Andrew, you bring up a good point.
I personally am not too concerned with the business side of this. It’s just the simple fact that silva has pretty much told his employers and boss what to do. Also, it makes no sense for the already troubled middle weight division, that these 2 top contenders fight eachother for the supposed #1 spot. If this is business then imho it’s not very good business and I don’t think you need to be “inside” the ufc to know this is bad for business.
Would this be a great fight? Well of course it would be these are two world class elite middle weight fighters. There’s no question about that.
It just seems a little funny that silva, and not joe silva, but anderson silva was the one who booked this fight.
This is a serious issue, in that both the UFC and the sport are better served by the appropriate Silva handling the matchmaking…
Real Quick.
Rumors are out there of another fight in the works, in place of this one. I hear it could be a good one, but I haven’t seen who it might be. As soon as it becomes available, I promise MMAFrenzy will report on it.
That’s why you’re the man Justin!
That is, of course, if it works out.
If you want to find out what that rumored bout was, head to the forum section.
I just don’t understand why no one is giving Nate a chance in this fight? Did you guys not see what he did to Maia? All Hendo has the BIg right hand witch I guarantee he WON’T catch Marquardt with like Bisping. Nate would also crush Bisping so the KO was awesome but, anyone who’s has even a little boxing experience knows not to circle to your opponents power hand witch Bisping must not have got the memo even though his corner was screaming it at him. Who knows if the fight will actually happen.
After Anderson’s performances he deserves to choose his opponents. The MW guys have NO chance against The Spider. I mean who can honestly go from MW to LHW and eventually to HW? Come on guys the dude earned his say somewhat in his future bouts. I’m sure others will disagree so lets hear it.
I wouldn’t say “no one” is calling the fight for Marquardt, just not the majority of the frenZied.
Your Marquardt mileage may vary at some other lesser MMA site.
And I certainly wouldn’t say that Hendo wins this fight easily, or in a walkover, nor would I be surprised if Marquardt won.
Personally I see Hendo “Couturing” Marqaurdt against the fence, working the dirty boxing, waiting for that right moment for a Greco throw, and then get on him like ugly on an ape until the ref stops the fight or the clock ends the round, and repeat if/as necessary.
As such, I see Hendo winning by ref stoppage or UD, but I’m sure there are a lot of Marqaurdt supporters out there that will disagree…
Yes there is.and though i don’t like these two contenders having to fight while Anderson waits for the results of the Machida vs Rua fight,it would likely be a good fight.
BOOOO! I want two contenders for the belt – Hendo goes first then Nate. This just serves to drop one of the fighters down a notch when we all want to see both fight Andy.
I personally the only fight that interested me for A Silva at MW was against Maia, but since that got shattered in 21 seconds, A. Silva should honestly leave the MW belt behind and save his remaining 3 fights for Rampage, Shogun/Lyoto( if they will), and Randy. I honestly have no desire to see Anderson at HW, i feel like he will lose his speed and grace that makes him such and entertaining fighter. Plus they will probably just lay on him for 3 rounds anyway. And going back to what “Only True 1″ was saying, if any one i feel is deserving of a rematch by now would be Jon Fitch on GSP.
Wow , i def have mixed emotions about this … on one hand i do think that silva has a valid point in wanting them two to fight each other being that he has beaten them previous , he doesnt fear either of them although he prob hopes nate will beat hendo . good points made about his 3 fights left and dana not wanting him to use 2 of them on two rematches of which he one both , but ive stated many times that i hope it is not against GSP with which he uses one of his fights cause i just dont see that as being a good fight , i may be wrong but i know GSP has one of the best takedowns in the game but i truly believe anderson will light him up before he even gets close enough , and we all know GSP cant dream up enough stand up to deal with the spider .
on the other hand about the # 1 cont fight hendo and nate are the top dogs under silva so i think they have to fight , but it should be to crown new mw champ as silva should relinquish his belt to move to lhw , disrupt that div by ko all his buddy machida competition ! Rich franklin will be like damn why does this guy keep following me !! lol
looking forward to see if the phenom keeps with his winning ways and destroys rich , wandy got to feel like he needs to redeem hisself from ultimate brazil ! so dont worry folks the mw division will survive once the spider is done with it !! WHAT UP JCOHL !
We’ve talked a lot over in the forum area about the hard luck story of Rich Franklin.
He got demolished at 185 by Anderson Silva, who at the time was unfairly IMO fast-tracked to a title shot with a win over Chris Leben, and THEN he caught 9 kinds of he11 a second time in the rematch.
So the guy moved onto 205 after a throw-away fight with Travis Lutter in hopes of still find somehwere to ply his trade, and presto!
Silva appears in the 205 ranks, and once again Franklin is stymied.
Consequently Franklin is unable to make little headway in the 205 ranks, as he takes these catchweight bouts first with Wand and now with Belfort.
Fortunately his “company man” mentality keeps him tight with Dana White, who watches out for his boy and does what he can to keep him in the mix.
if hendo doesnt wanna fight nate then go up to lhw and nate will become the defacto #1 contender and can get the shot at silva. its that simple. im still unsure as to whom deserves the shot but if i had to pick which fight id rather watch itd b nate vs silva. hendo didnt impress me in there 1st meeting. his side control mini hammerfists just didnt do anything for me. on a side note i see a lot of outcry ova silva “booking this matchup”. so wheres the outcry over hendo booking his fights? “if i cant fight silva i go up to lhw” isnt that the same as silva sayin “i want them to fight to see who is the best challenger for my title or i fight back at lhw or hw”? kinda the same thing no? so wheres the roar of hendo is arrogent and cocky and who the hell does he think he is making his own matches. atleast silva has the belt and has a 10 fight win streak in the ufc i believe and is tied wit tito and matt hughes for title defences. wats hendo got to give cred to his hissy fit for not fighting marquardt?
I think what people are mostly upset about was the fact that Dan was promised a title fight after KOing Bisping. Now the UFC is saying he has to go though Nate to get it.
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The “cred” you’re seeking can be found in the words of Dana White, who repeatedly claimed that the winner of Hendo-Bisping was getting a title shot…
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ! HENDO SHOULD BE PISSED AND I CANT BELIEVE THEY WOULD DO HIM LIKE THAT WITH HIS CONTRACT UP , DO THEY NOT CARE IF HE LEAVES ? COURSE I DONT THINK HE WILL BUT WHO KNOWS , HE DID HAVE ALOT OF SUCCESS IN JAPAN ….
no dana white sayin something doesnt give hendo the right to pick and choose and make a fuss. anderson has earned that right in the ufc. ill say it again “atleast silva has the belt and has a 10 fight win streak in the ufc i believe and is tied wit tito and matt hughes for title defences.” wat has dan DONE to warrent the right to pick and choose and refuse to fight someone? wateva he was promised is irrelevant in a discussion about wat type of perks hes earned. my gripe is this people r goin apesh!t cuz anderson is “booking his own matches” when hendo is doin the exact same thing. but i dont hear anyone upset wit that its all anderson is this that and the other. i dont think anyones even acknowledged the fact that there both doin the same thing. diff between them is one has earned the right to do that wit his ufc preformances where as the otha has not
hendo got nothing against nate. he’s scared cause if he loses where does he go from there??????????
yoyoma,
He’s also @ 205 fighter and can move back up to that weight class. He did whoop on franklin, who’s considered a contender a lhw in his last 205 fight.
So i’m guessing he’d go there…that is of course if he took the fight and then lost.
Whoopin?
Hendo damned near put Franklin’s eye out in that fight…
jcohl,
“whooped on” is just the way I say it dude. Just like when I said franklin “whooped” on wanderlei and everyone got on me and said it was a close fight.
But I for one think franklin lost that fight. Eye poke or not, hendo imho won the fight.
@ jazzkok – I agree.
I just thought the term “whoopin’” seemed almost tame in comparison to Franklin’s post-fight appearance.
He almost looked like he’d gotten jumped outside some biker bar by the Sons of Anarchy…
does anyone think that maybe Dan will stick to his guns and use his contract negotiations as leverage in getting the fight that he wants or making a move to LHW?
I would love it if Hendo applied some leverage and simply waved off the fight.
Of course that would start a pi$$ing contest with Dana White, but hey, sometimes a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.
Also, if I were Hendo, I’d insist on having a seriously large “undisclosed” check cut to me if Dana is going to renege on his promise of a title shot, or insist that the fight be for an Interim title, not that I’m a fan of Interim titles, but rather to just illustrate how ridiculous this situation has become.
And its not like Hendo doesn’t have options.
I’m thinking that Scott Coker would be willing to shell out bigtime for a title match with Mousasi and Hendo, and I’m sure the comrades over at M-1 Global are thinking about how much they’d like their boy to get into a match with a [undersized] former 2 time Olympic wrestler…
@ Jchol- J cool
Sooooo its ok for Dan Henderson to use his leverage and tell Dana what fight he wants and use him like a puppet as you implied Silva is doing butttt not ok for Silva (Who happens to be the undefeated champ) to tell dana or use his leverage to get he fight he wants????
Even as you put it {insist on having a seriously large “undisclosed” check cut to me if Dana is going to renege on his promise of a title shot, or insist that the fight be for an Interim title}
I just dont see what the big fuss is over. Oh wait oh my god Anderson just ruined the UFC being the 1st and only guy in history to suggest or say he wanted a fight or didnt want a fight now the whole UFC is in shambles because Dana white told his first and only lie and the MW picture for a title will never be the same because 2 # 1 guys have to actually fight each other and there will never ever be another # 1 contender and ANDERSON SILVA KILLED KENNY!!! YOU BAST3RD!!!!
Dan Henderson, i think would beat Nate. Henderson is no Demian Maia, Maia doesn’t have the stand-up nor the chin, nor the toughness that Hendo has which is one of a kind. I see Hendo doing what he does best and that’s “Couture” Nate and control him on the ground. Nate is good on the ground but i don’t think he’ll be able to hang with Hendo’s wrestling.
However if it stays standing of course i feel that Marquardt has the advantage on speed agility and maybe even power being that he’s in his prime and a lot younger than Hendo. But Hendo can take punches from anyone being that he has one of the best chins in the game, but Nate has been dropped by Leites and Silva also and i feel that Henderson might have more power than both of those guys so IMO Henderson has a good chance to “Bisping” Nate if he gets him with that right hand.
I still feel that this fight should not take place because in the long run will only hurt the division and support the concept of Silva to keep fighting at 205 where he really has no business unless he wants to make a run at the title. If Silva fights both guys then he’d be forced to stay at 185 which is the best thing for the division because like i said before it would give the UFC some brething time and time to bring up some legit Contenders and justify title fights rather than have Nate fight Hendo and have those two eliminate eachother which just gives us one decent title fight followed by possibly the winner of a future Vitor-Wanderlei rematch which would not justify a title shot.
For 1 I have to remind you Henderson was dropped by Silva as well and Dan has a chance to “Bisping Marquardt” well like you said with Maia and Henderson ..Marquardt is no Bisping.
I think hendo deserves it a little more , but they are both serious contenders – and their fight won’t be shabby.
Henderson is a tough match up for the spider.
It almost seems like dana doesn’t want his no1 in the world guy to lose- not that i think p4p there is anyone better – just that hendo could neutralize anderson and anlso could potentially kTFO him
Hendo is in a very good position right now.
1.) Dana publicly promised him the next shot @ anderson after he ko’d bisping and everyone knows that including mr white.
2.) Hendo just became a free agent and like you guys said, if he had to, he’d can ask for a big a$$ $ amount for getting played and he can hint @ a departure if he doesn’t get what he was promised. Hendo is the #1 contender @ mw and a contender @ lhw and he’s the only man to ever hold 2 belts in different weight classes at the same time so dana and the UFC have more to lose if it came down to it.
3.) After Anderson’s Silva’s statements and those of his manager, Dana white and the UFC have to consider the public scrutiny coming there way if they book the fight that Anderson Silva, their employee booked, not them and that everyone will think they only made that match because anderson wanted it.
Henderson will get the next shot and nate will have to just wait and see what this “business” throws his way.
One thing I’m worried about is this- what if the winner of this fight gets injured (ie broken hand KOing the other guy)? Then we are left with 2 guys who now don’t deserve a title shot right away (Maia and the loser of Marquardt/Hendo), and a winner that can’t fight Silva until well into next year. Sure makes for a boring division for the foreseeable future.
Good point.
BY THE WAY HOW DO I GET A PICTURE ON HERE
NOW THAT IS ALOT OF NEGATIVITY IN YOUR VOICE . LOL
DONT WORRY MY MAN ,….. THE PHENOM IS BACK AND WILL BE KICKING A– AND TAKING NAMES .
I cann’t believe you guys, all Silva wants now is Super fights {rematchs not really cuttin it as super fights unless they are split decisions} Silva wants the better of the Two {here is a Ferria and Lamboghini, but the key is this man cann’t wait for the test drive of the veyron} yes I know its MMA anything can happen ,but myself I’m more interested in Okami or Belfort fighting Silva then Henderson or Marquardt ,but then again Marquardt has been impressive as of late. I personally want to see Anderson throwing some bombs at heavy weight {I mean finally a real test for Anderson on the feet} ..because I mean how does everyone think Henderson or Marquardt wins its by Ground and Pound ..{or sub if your Marquardt}.. only other test at LHW is Rampage and Shogun ,Machida , Rashad , Couture but he isn’t fighting Machida and may not fight Shogun , so lets just let Silva have some fun at Heavy Weight everyone wants to see a match with Crocop or Kongo or Carwin or Lesnar or even the mouth watering thought of Fedor match up {well dreams do come true sometimes}
We’ve sort of touched on this before, in that Anderson Silva may in fact do well against more stand-up inclined fighters such as Mirko and Kongo, however against Neanderthalic ground pounders like Carwin and Lesnar Silva would probably need assistance getting back to the locker room…
I agree with you , but I like the fact that it starts off in Silva advantage tho in the stand up this may even ,make Silva work harder on so of the holes in his ground game and wrestling maybe? just a thought.
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Agreed, which is probably what Hendo’s new strategy will be. Lay and pray for 5 rounds. However, When Silva clearly engaged Hendo in round 2, it was Hendo taking a beating and he had no success in taking the fight to the mat. Silva, as much as I like him, is delusional if he thinks he can make a run at HW.
I don’t think its the title Silva is after as much as the Challenge more so right now… because come on ,cleaning out a division and waiting for a rematch probably isn’t that exciting for Silva any more. I mean at this stage in his career he probably wants to fight 50/50 fights where he is tested. Look at the Forrest fight ,he wasn’t even trying 100% and owned him, not to many heavy weights if any could of done that to Forrest. I’m not sure if Silva could get the title but I still think he should make top 5 of that division ..the only fighters I see above him is Carwin / Lesnar / Nog / Mir .. with Velasquez being below or just above Silva, kind of a close 1 there?
Now I’m going to start a rumour that Hendo is ducking Nate.
I think it would be wise if Hendo did duck Nate. If he loses which he will, he’s gonna have to work to get back to that position. Also, at 205 I really don’t think he’s considered a force. Sure there are some interesting matches but he won’t really be in title contention at 205…
I think its wise if Hendo doesn’t take this fight… But at the same time if Anderson is going to retire after his contract is up, I wouldn’t want to see him waste his fights against Hendo and Nate IMO..
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BTW IMO Silva can beat Mir, but no other top-level fighters at HW. IMO