Forrest Griffin’s Jaw Not Injured In UFC 101 KO Loss to Anderson Silva
Rumors circulated on Sunday that Forrest Griffin’s run from the Octagon following his first-round knockout loss to Anderson Silva on Saturday at UFC 101 was due to a broken or dislocated jaw. However, according to Joe Ferraro of Sportsnet’s “MMA Connected”, Griffin’s jaw is “fine”:
Source has confirmed that the reports that Forrest has a broken jaw and was the reason he ran out of the octagon are false. His jaw is fine.
At the post-fight press conference, UFC President Dana White said he hadn’t seen Griffin following the knockout and had no idea where he’d gone or why he left, though White added that he believed Griffin simply bolted from the Octagon as a result of his being an emotional fighter.
What injuries Griffin suffered in the defeat, if any, are not yet known as the card’s medical suspensions have yet to be released, but should be available in the coming days.
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damn that blows…loss of hearing has got to fukc you up in the head…about time for a jardine rematch i suppose…hope he comes back strong…the end
the frenzy changin up the post on me
No fighter bashing. – Justin
lol and i mean that in the most snide, and sarcastic tone you can conjure up in your
poor, deficientcranium.Little harsh, but I get why you said it. – Justin
Knew that was comin Justin , I’ll be more diplomatic with my words in the future. Its gonna be hard though in the upcoming hours and days if what im reading here and elsewhere becomes a trend.
I understand. We’ll try to keep that stuff to a minimum, but we can’t be here all the time.
Silva is the greatest fighter in the world and he could make any fighter look like a b**** forrest is a great fighter he just fought the best fighter in the world if you think forrest sucks than rampage must suck and rashad must not be that good cause forrest beat rampage and was beating rashad most of the fight untill he got caught
i wouldnt say silva’s the best, i honestly think machida is, he’s never a match or even single round, i wish they would fight, but thats never gonna happen
*he’s never lost a match*
my bad guess I was wrong
Once again top news delivered! Great job mma frenzy!!
Seriously man, he quit. I’ve never been a Griffin fan and that performance set my opinion in stone. He could have made it a fight, but the guy that said he could never be broken simply gave up after 3 minutes.
Gave up?How did he give up he got pummled by the best fighter on the planet.Silva landed that shot backing up,that’s because forest was trying to put the pressure on.Very unsuccsefully i might add but still gave up i think is a wrong choice of words.You gotto learn how to seperate your feelings for a fighter from the facts in a fight.he didn’t give he got beat up.
What fight did you watch? He clearly got dropped and raised his hand stating no more, then the fight was called. I’m not sure how I should define, but that is quitting. I’ll give him props that he got in there, but he could have perserveared.
Well, clearly there is debate since forcing a corner to throw in the towel doesn’t count as as “finishing” a fighter around here…
I couldn’t believe the fight…I figured Anderson would win, but in that fashion…I couldn’t believe it. UFC 101 all in all in my opinion was just a strange night.
alright natural…
we’ve made our peace in the forums…but now it looks like you have some legitimate targets
True that south…just kinda waiting at this point for a decent and articulate post to say what is on alot of ppls minds right now. I’m ready.
watch the fight again, he got put out 3 times before he gave up. he went in swinging for the fences, and got tagged with some well timed shots from a superior striker.
Could you guys be more ungrateful? Forrest has put on tons of great performances for the fans. He was out classed and he knew it. Stop ripping the guy, stupid E-warriors.
Suddenly i dont feel so bad at all. whatsoever.. cant wait for andersons next opponent! nuff said
I like how 3 or 4 guys on here felt the need to tell you off for putting Forest in his place on the post fight conf posts, and this comes out later. Seriously, some people need to lighten up.
And some people need to wise up, and show some class and respect when discussing fights and fighters.
You’re not “putting Forrest in his place”, figs, you’re just publicly demonstrating what sort of MMA fan you are. Now that that’s been straightened out, we can properly contextualize any subsequent postings you may make…
we cant all be sympathetic, this world is full of D*cks P*ssies and *ssholes like the movie said! and thats just my opinion on the truth of this world, and every world within it
Funny how the performer that single handedly did more for the sport in terms of blasting it into the global mainstream strictly on the grounds of his display of beastiness in the cage is now a defunct crybaby wimp after ONE sound a$$ whooopin.
Can’t say I’ve heard this kind of talk out of anyone in regards to Forrest, in fact quite the opposite up unto this point. Glad my opinion is set in stone as well, Forrest was a beast before stepping into the cage last night and that didn’t change because he got beat up and out classed by a superior opponent. I’m sure in many minds and hearts the guy is a disgrace, only wish that my own cage experience and level of competition in any endeavor was so high that I could point the finger at Forrest and cry pvssy. It must feel pretty good given the turn of the tide I’ve been seeing here and elsewhere.
natural – very few real MMA fans are talking sh!t about Forrest Griffin, here or anywhere else. A few like to just post noise, and a few who don’t know the difference between Anderson Silva and Anderson Cooper or the difference between a armbar and a candy bar think its great to post incindiery stuff like, “the guy gave up, he sucks” and all the grownups will respond accordingly…
that’ll do…end
forrest sucks???? Wow?? Ya know some of you guys that post on here are ***** stupid if he won u would be the ones that would be talking **** about Silva….The performance he had vs Quinton the way he picked him apart, or against Rua “who at the time was coming over to be the star for the UFC” SERIOUSLY FORREST SUCKS?? Nothing about the way Forrest fights or the way he approaches his commentaries tells me he sucks…Anyone that says that obviously know’s nothing about the fight game!!!Listen we don’t really know what happened yet maybe he got injured maybe he didn’t until we receive the reports it’s all speculation but to say the guy sucks and to bash him C’MON!! Go to another site and do it cause this site isn’t the one where u should be posting BS like that….Anyone that doesn’t agree, don’t really care even if forrest didn’t get injured, then all it means is he got beat by the p4p greatest fighter in the world….People act like he gave up to a ROOKIE!!!! He fought Anderson Silva so leave the Forrest Griffen sucks comments off here out of respect alone!!!
Yes, we don’t tolerate BS like that, that’s why I deleted the contents of the offending comment you are referring to.
The man defenitely doesnt suck, hes had some great notable wins, but he definitely needs to make drastic changes to his game, that just looked too easy for anderson and everyone knew forrest could easily be a problem, back to the drawing boards for another long ass layoff im sure
AMEN
I was at the hotel over the weekend. i saw Forrest in the lobby and he looked exhausted midday Sat, the day of the fight. No doubt that it was a terrible showing by Forrest and not what he wanted, but that was not the Forrest that we know. He looked lethargic, like he had difficulty losing weight. I would like to know what his weight was the morning of weigh-ins, and how much weight he cut on the day of weigh-in. I think the cutting of weight was why he was so slow. He had nothing behind his punches or kicks. To lose in a fight of that magnitude and importance to his carreer is unheard of. Something was going on.
I agree when he stepped into the cage I didn’t think Forrest looked ready. I Love Forrest. I hope he can come back from this. Anderson was a huge fight and he is very dangerous to anyone that gets in the cage with him. I think Forrest has fought to many fights so close together.
they will fight, things change so fast in this sport between relationships of fighters because of what they are there to do, if silva makes this move up for good and drops his belt, they will end up fighting, we say dollars dont speak to these martial artists and they respect their friends and everything too much too fight, but they will, when they realize how much the fans would love that fight and after silva destroys his next opponents they will have to fight, or his move up is pointless, we will quickly get sick of him not going for top tier when he is the top. so i predict anderson silva vs lyoto machida for the 2011 new year huge event
along side that brock lesnar vs rowdy roddy piper
this was for the anderson silva lhw post
Well all I can say is poor match up! Silva and Forrest are two completely different fighters!
Though I am a fellow human being I had no idea of the awesome fight potential we hold. Silva’s butt-whuppin’ clinic amazed me to no end. I mean the way he casually avoided 3 monster swings from Forrest while his hands were down at his sides was impressive enough, but then delivering a single jaw-busting knockout while back stepping was WOW!!! It doesn’t matter what we type in this forum Forrest will never be able to live this down. He got destroyed by a man who came up in weight to take his milk money. I suggest Forrest stop being Tank Abbot and refine his skills.
you refer to Forrest in the same sense as tank abbott….like forrest is only one dimensional wow I’m hearing it all today…what was the RUA fight then?? Explain that I’m not sayin u are completely wrong…..well actually ya ya I am
Ive been watching this sport since the beginning and I am a fan and respect Griffin but Im sorry I dont know if he was hurt,a hoax or fixed but something wasnt right with that fight and the whole card for that matter.He looked real thin and gaingly last night.I dont know what happened and again I stand by this sport but we have to realize that with growth of this sport comes more money being transferred and all I am saying is nothing surprises me anymore.
forrest has 7 submission wins I don’t remember how many Tank Abbott has…..oh ya 2 by neck crank lol seriously??? But submitting Sonnen, Rua,going the distance with great fighters like Monson, jackson no big deal lol
I just can’t understand how the Silva-Griffin fight was the Fight of the Night. Sorry but Griffin didn’t deserve to get any type of bonus for quitting and then running out of the ring in the same fashion as he did after his loss to Jardine.
Dana White always finds a way to give his boy Forrest some love. Even when he makes a complete fool of himself.
Figs,i didn’t take him putting his arms up as sign of giving up.To me it looked like he was attempting to defend if silva had jumped in for the kill.But he was so dazed it just appered to be more of a flailing arm motion.I find it amusing that you say he should of persevered.Why don’t you tell that to his other victims,if it seems that easy to you.And i watched the same fight you did several times now and thats exactaly how i saw it.
it looked to me like he put his arms up to defend himself. he was out matched last night but still one of the best in the game. anyone can be beat at any time. doesent mean he sucks just out matched
That’s cool man, I look at it from a different perspective and would have expected more out of him. By all means, I am not trying to bash the guy (as it seems like you’re taking it that way) as anyone who steps up should be respected, regardless of the outcome.
yea i agree that the fight of the night bonus was insane…i dont know who else to give it to…i havent seen any of t he unaired prelims yet, but a couple of split decisions could be interesting…kenny and bj, maybe grove and the big dog…im not sure but i know that any of them are more deserving of that bonus…the end
anyone who says Forest is not a true UFC fan tell me one other fight other than Silva that he didn’t put on a number one show
I gotta tell you guys I honestly thought and have posted that forrest would give anderson a run for his money. Fr702 and I called for this fight what like maybe a year or 2 ago when I first started posting.
Boyyyyyyyyyyyy Was I wrong.
Well Forrest still in my mind is top 5 lhw. He just got beat by the best P4P in the world plain and simple. BAD!!! IMO he still beats most of the guys out there. I believe he bought into the hype surrounding him and read that book he wrote too many times and honestly thought he had a chance but when reality set in after the 3rd knock down he was soooooo embarressed he didn’t want to be there any more and really was broken in this fight.
Had this been an all out WAR and he lost he woulda stayed but to be beaten like that and toyed with destroys you mentally. And that IMO is why he choose to run out and didn’t care what anyone said or thought about him at that point. Had he stayed and made some funny comment about the fight his book would have skyrocketted even more but now not so much…
Hey guys if any of you see Jazzok or MarvelKnight4 tell’em I am looking for them. LOL…..
They BOTH owe me CROW and their AVATORS!!!!
I think if forrest would’ve have tried to take it to the ground he may have had a chance. But Silva knew he was going to try and fight him standing up and he beat him down. I still think Forrest is still one of the best fighters he just fought like **** last night.
I’ve also havent been a fan of Anderson Silva but after watching his post fight conference i am starting to like him a lot more because he still respected Forrest.
Intention, planning and execution can be faultless but circumstance and chance ultimately dictate an outcome. I have to say that Sat’s fights were some of the strangest I have seen. First couple of fights were, quite frankly, boring, ref’s were far too fast at stopping bouts, Silva was great – Griffin disappointing, it was great to see Penn back in form but Florian never seemd to hit his stride. I am really looking forward to Griffin’s first post-fight interview/statement. I have seen him fight numerous times and admire the guy but when he walked into the ring I honestly wondered whether he was on drugs or sick. Body language was as if he had already been defeated and just did not want to be there. I had no doubt that Silva would win but Forrest was there in body only from the moment he left his locker.
This is almost as good of a pic as Ali standing over Liston!
Exactly and same Fanthom Punch {looked Like}
Fanthom? Really?
Next Silva fight, he needs to yell “O campeão está aqui” = The Champ Is Here
Yeah, if you noticed people like Silva get scolded by Dana White and many others even when they win, but Forrest always get undeserved love. Why fans boo Silva at so many events? Forrest DID NOT show multi-dimensional attacks in his latest bouts and always tried to come off as the humble rock ‘em sock ‘em robot. Lately, he has been rather Tank Abbot-ish. He is actually a passive aggressor playing up to most of America hanging on his Richie Cunningham jock strap. So Lame. All I have to say is Run Forrest Run! Silva is a totally different kind of fighter. He is also very respectful. I am just saying that sports fans are a little strange. They paid more attention, for instance to Kournikova’s (the tennis chick) looks than at the skill of the number one seed at the time. Tell me I am lying. This is why I am glad to see people like Silva completely shut down posers like Forrest and the machines that prop him up. Such agenda.Will is correct. The way Silva kept his composure after knocking Gump TFO while his legs did a sissy ballet spit high in the air was righteous. TOTALLY EXPOSED!!!!
Ironic how you applaud Silva for his showmanship and respect, then display the exact opposite yourself. Here’s a Gump reference for you, “Stupid is as stupid does.”
Look at yourself. Disgraceful.
Natural – the only “exposing” going on, as one rocket scientist put it, is when those who post sh!t about Forrest Griffin being a “poser” or something of that nature expose THEMSELVES as immature, unfamiliar with the sport, and disrespectful in the extreme to the fighters.
Fans like that are best left to pro wrestling or NHB throwdowns at some truck stop on the interstate…
I’ve kept up with MMA for quite some time, but I am new to this forum. Maybe Joe Ferraro is psychic, or is a doctor? How does he know Forrest’s jaw is “just fine”. Maybe he followed him to the doctor and has seen x-rays. Or, maybe he is just speculating. I’ve followed Forrest for most of his UFC career and have always known him to be gracious in defeat. Have you ever seen him duck a post-fight interview, win, lose, or draw? Have you ever seen any fighter run from the ring like he did? Don’t you think we owe it to him to give an explanation before we chastize him? I’ll withhold judgement until I hear it from an official source as to what happened. I suggest everyone else give him that much respect.
Such a UFC hype machine result. What’s the best way to make a good fighter like Anderson Silva look great? Put him up against a chinny ex-champ with subpar boxing who got viciously KO’d in his last fight. All roads led to Forrest Griffin. Almost everyone in the LHW division has recently suffered a vicious KO loss: Evans, Griffin, Wandy, Thiago, Jardine; basically everyone but Shogun, Jackson and Machida. All of the latter are BIG LHWs. Machida looks about 220 when he fights, Jackson looks about 225, and Shogun is easily 220. Silva is nowhere near as big as those three, and Machida and possibly Shogun have superior skills as well. Dana White would never forsake press coverage for a pesky thing like setting up a real fight for Anderson.
he just gave up…if you look at the finishing punch, its as if silva just stuck out his arm while forrest walked into it..
i mean come on…he managed to get hit by hooks and uppercuts by rampage in five rounds.. something was clearly wrong…
he gave up…right after he went down on the ground, he managed to get back up and run back all the way to his quarters..
this guy kurt is great!!!! I don’t know if u have ever fought b4 bud….but u comparing griffin to abbott or the robot comment is ****** stupid. First off Silva respectful?? I don’t know how many of Andersons fights u have seen but him being more respectful than griffen?? I think no one on here will agree with that one….And anyone that has been a champion at 205, or anyone in the 205 pound class that has wins over Rua, Quinton, Monson, among others how can u sit there and bash the guy? Finally “underserved love” Forrest Griffen is have the reason that UFC is always on spike now he did wonders for the sport just by his fight with Bonner back on season 1? So ya maybe Dana does show him some love but I am sure the boys up in the office realize and are greatfull for the fan base that he has brought in, in the last four years. I wouldn’t bash guys that r at the bottom of the barrell in the UFC, Cause they have made it to the UFC!!!! So to bash a former champion and a top 10 a 205 u sound really foolish man.
I don’t have to be a gentleman at all. I am doing battle with the small-minded people who bring their personal biases down on Silva who is a pure winner. You know exactly what I am talking about. As far as I am concerned you are just as stretched out on the canvas as your boy Gump. I didn’t make him run from the octagon.He ran out on his own. He can sit and do his pre-fight dance in the media for all you suckers, but cannot stand tall like a man after a loss. Am I wrong? This is not the first time he did this. He can take glory but can’t take a loss? What is that? That is what you respect? That is what you cheer? At least in the post-fight pressers Silva did nothing but respect him. Much more so than MMA “fans” have ever respected him. So go bite one because you are indeed a natural disaster you dipwad.I’ll say again Run Forrest Run!!! But I didn’t expect Shrek Griffin to run face-first into a freight train. The fans needed this wake up call. If they honor Forrest soooo much and then witnessed how he was virtually dissected by a much higher caliber fighter I hope they become more reasonable in their actions toward Silva.
I challenge you to name one other time Forrest bolted from the ring and to the locker room immediately after a fight, before decision was announced. You say it isn’t the firs time, find me another. I’ll wait.
Save your rage and personal attacks for all the posters that predicted the Forrest win. Don’t blame me because you have blown smoke up Gump’s keyster and got no returns for all your puckering. I am not the source of your loss.
And Kurt, why don’t you save your a$$-hatted opinions for some fan-boy site. MMAfrenzy is a big boy site, and not the place to post your noise about which fighters you like and which fighters you don’t. Here we strive to factually discuss MMA events, fights, and fighters, and not your half-baked notions about a New York Times bestselling author and a former UFC LHW champion who has been a tremendous credit to the sport and valuable asset to the UFC.
Also, if you don’t know what you’re talking about, then maybe you should try silently reading along while those of us who DO in fact know what we’re talking about carry on, instead of degrading the course of the discussion with grade school nonsense like calling Forrest Griffin Forrest Gump.
You’ll learn more that way, and make less of an a$$ of yourself in the process.
I mean honestly, did the kids at the school bus tell you that Gump thing was funny or something?
Please.
Don’t go away mad, just go away…
Griffen fought one of the best in the world and got caught..did he look outclassed yes he did but he was fighting anderson silva..and until someone outside of the pride ring can beat him or find a weakness we have to consider he is one of the top in the world.. What I was explaining to you is your bashing a former champion and a guy that has paved the way for the sport he brought in millions of fans.. So if u r a fan then u should appreciate that…I could care less I have been watching since Pancrase and would still be watching wether or not forrest was there so it isn’t me all over his jock.. I am just saying I can’t understand how someone who has the wins that they do and someone who has been a champion is a fraud??? And fans don’t respect Silva because of his in ring showmanship or lack there of. They respect him as a fighter but I don’t think anyone likes the way that he fights in the ring!!! Or shows little respect to his opponents..
I – and I suspect many others – very much like how Silva fights in the ring. His multi-dimensionalism, creativity and athleticism reassure me that MMA is not turning into winning a slug fest or ground game. He can do both of these exceptionaly well and so much more on top. His challenge is to keep a crowd entertained when the promoters struggle to put up worthwhile opponents. Bring on Machida, GSP…. only these kind of all-round creative fighters will offer a true challenge. Sorry but the Hendo fight is a foregone conclusion in my opinion.
Silva is a great fighter but he made Forrest look like a chump!
And with the performance Forrest gave he should have run out of the arena and kept going the whole way back to GA.
If Forrest is so great why couldnt Silva make Hendo, Cote, Lutter or Marquart look like chumps!! I hope Forrest has a legit excuse for his performance in South Philly!! If not he shouldnt show his face back here again.
Gave me a good laugh with your impassioned anti-Forrest monologue of unabashed horsesh!t there Kurt, thanks. I was gonna leave you alone and let my peers here at the Frenzy have a whack at you, but since you mentioned me by name here you go.
As I dissect your hate speech there I can’t help but notice Silva laying out Forrest isn’t enough for you. As if Silva needs a co-signer, but I’m sure he appreciates the religious-like devotion from ******’s like you. You contrast Forrests running off with him allowing the LHW belt to be strapped across his waist. One of those is a way over the top action, the other is earning your due. If you can’t admit the facts about a man who has acheived more in his life than yourself I believe the proper terminology would be “Envious, Fighter-bashing, Fan-bashing, Insecure Crock of MAJOR ******” His performance and act of jogging towards some personal isolation sure negated all prior acheivements in your eyes, didn’t it? One can only wonder why. All us sheeple sportsfans who can’t tell a true warrior from a wannabe need to recognize the real deal huh?
Listen up Kurt, I’m only going to spell this out for you once. Just by being hypocritical in your post and not practicing what you preach; this has reduced you to the status of instant NO CREDIBILITY. Nevermind your lack of decency and vehement insistence that your superior to 99% of the rest of us. Your own uncharismatic lack of class speaks for itself. Case closed and another douche bites the dust.
P.S. Message my inbox if you wish to continue this conversation plz, this site isn’t set up for this kind of crap.
natural – Kurt will wind up getting himself moderated out of existence for his disrespectful noise, so don’t waste your time on him. Eventually his mom will make him log off of her computer and start his homework, and we can get back to intelligently discussing MMA…
Yeah almost immediately after I posted I regretted dignifying that absurdity with a response, hence the P.S. Wanted to handle it more in the way you did, but alas still have some maturity building of my own to work on. TY though for the advice, I’ll keep it in mind.
Kurt, question, you ever fought MMA? Actually, have you ever tried any combat sport? The guy built himself up for a massive fight in front of thousands of people and believed he could win, then got smashed by, to be honest a far better technical fighter… Not sure you’d have the balls to stick around and take that. Stylistically, Griffin got screwed, but would have been beaten regardless, by just a phenom of the fight game. However, your out of order mate, lose the hate speech, Anderson’s good, we got the message a little while back, but these guys are only human, and Forrest won’t bad mouth Anderson, he’ll give him his props when hes gotten over being shown up.
Oh, and completely agree about Silva dropping his hands, it shows just how good he is, and it must screw with his opponents heads, but just doesn’t well sit with me, not that it matters, Anderson don’t give a **** what I think, lol.
right there with ya dace…see kurt ya picked the wrong site bud
how happy are you if you’re rich franklin right now…sure you got beat down twice, sure you’re nose was on the other side of your face at one point….but at least you didn’t get owned by a smaller guy who was dancing around and helping you up just to knock you down again….and at least you didn’t run off in front of all those fans. finally, you’re not the worst victim!!!! I think that’s pretty much all people can hope for against silva, no one’s gonna beat him for a loooooong time.
Being a fighter can be a difficult profession. Emotions, tempers and anxieties can run rampant. There are many factors that come into play during the preparation for a fight and during the fight as well. A lot of it is internal, finding the calm before the storm. If you have never stood across the ring or cage and looked into the eyes of an opponent, all your conjecture is moot.
For people who only watch and comment, who have never experienced the rush of physical and emotional turmoil that comes with standing toe to toe with someone and willing them to test your skill, things that happen in and outside the cage are passed off as actions that are easy to dicipher, any real fighter knows better.
Mixed martial arts is not the stuff that WWE is made of, there are no scripts, so predeterminations. It is raw, it is emotional and it is exciting. I believe respect should be paid to anyone who is brave enough to step into the octagon and entertain those who are unwilling to attempt that which the so dearly love to criticize.
I however, am saddened by Silva’s blatent display of disrespect of late, for the people that step into the ring with him. He has reduced himself to a ‘cage fighter,’ loosing the decorum and civility that once showed him to be a ‘martial artist who cage fights.’ Show boating and acting foolishly should be something that a champion should rise beyond, representing his sport and his art with a sense of humility and humanity. Sadly, Silva has lost those qualities becoming of a proper champion…
~*hands folded in respect*~
Have you ever thought if that was part of his game plan?
For heavens sake he even helped Forrest up by giving him a hand; how many figthers do that?
Despite it’s a combat sports; you got to use psychology on your opponents. By the way I listened to Forrest interview saying by the time he finishes with Silva, other figthers will be like damn, you made it looks so easy, we should have thought about how easy it would have been to beat Silva all because of you (Forrest) has shown us the way.
If a fighter is interested in only the purity of martial arts then one can argue that the UFC, or any other such org, is not the place for them. If they wish the fame, glory and recompense of professional fighting then yes. In this case there is a price to be paid. Orgs such as the UFC exist on PPV subscriptions, ticket sales, sponsorships etc. Sales are driven by customer satisfaction and, as the popularity of MMA grows out of the core, then people want more show-boating, action and excitement. No matter how good a fighter may be technically, if he does not deliver these he is out i.e., the criticism Silva received in his last two pre-Griffin fights. The challenge is achieving an acceptable balance between the two that allows a fighter’s MMA ability to shine through while keeping up the ratings.
That was the back step and pow move Mayweather used against Ricki Hatton.
Looks easy when you say back step; but ladies and gents, the hand when punching does not do a backstep. It looks for it’s target.
Actually not only have I done combat sports,but military combat as well. I will withdraw my personal attacks which I did not initiate. I made a general observation about unreasonable fan treatment of Silva. I was attacked for that and got called out. After my homework, glass of milk, and sugar cookies I will respond further. I see that I somehow should be held to a higher standard as does Silva. Now, what will you do?
I can’t say that I see how comparing Forrest Griffin to Tank Abbot and Anna Kournikova, while calling him Forrest Gump and claiming he was “TOTALLY EXPOSED” as if he were some sort of fraud qualify as making “a general observation about unreasonable fan treatment of Silva.”
I’m actually much more inclined to see that as fighter bashing, for which you got called out for. Perhaps the way that was addressed was not all ways done in the best spirit, but your claims that you were wronged after having done nothing wrong and will now take the high road are weak and dishonest.
Also, please try out our nested commenting by clicking on “reply to this comment” the next time you are replying to what someone has said to you, rather than just going to the bottom of the page and posting there.
I will move up in weight class (e.g. be kinder and gentler) and still hold to the premise. To be continued.
Has anyone found a genuine post-fight statement from Griffin’s camp? Bizarre as his performance was on Sat, I would have expected some sort of statement…. what happened, how is he now etc…. no excuses or whining.
Up till this very moment there are no news from Griffin’s camp yet. I guess it is just sheer humiliation on his (Forrest) part.
Imagine training for a fight for 4-6 hours a day physically, and 24-7 mentally for 4 months. Now think about dieting, makeing sure you get enough sleep, and watching hours of fight footage a day. Now think of the toll it has taken on your personal life. Imagine the stress that never goes away for all of those months. Think of how you dedicated your life to one specific goal… that has a 25 minute time limit in total.
You get in the ring, you have put everything on the line… your body, your mind, your heart, your personal life and relationships… your reputation.
You get beat after all those months of training… the stress… by one of the greatest fighters to ever walk the earth… literally. You were beaten with ease, and it was clear. Now think about what is going through your mind. You spent months… so many hours… so much time… so much stress… and you didn’t even get the worst case you thought possible… you got even worse. Think about where your mind would be at that time. There was no dishonor or embarassment in Forrest Griffins performance or decision to leave the ring. To say so is being pompous, ignorant, and self rightous.
With the exception of Royce Gracie, Forrest Griffin has done more for mixed martial arts in America than anyone. His heart, goofy attitude, and ability to win over the crowd can not be forgoten. He is still a legit and very well rounded fighter. He is one of the main reasons the sport is where it is right now.
Saying anything negative about his decision to leave the ring and not show up for the post fight press conference is arrogant, ignorant, and extremely disrespectful. None of us know the pressure of that night. None of us know the extent to his physical and emotional injuries. He put his body and reputation on the line not only for himself as a fighter, but for the fans. He is fighting for us too. It is something that each negative poster here should remember.
Respect. Without it, there is no martial arts.
cother you are nuts if you think that Forrest has done more for the sport than Randy, Chuck, Matt, GSP, Tito, BJ., Jens, Hendo, Shamrock or even Rich!! Forrest had a great fight against another average fighter on live (free) tv. and thats it. The guys mentioned above aswell as numerous other greay fighters made MMA. in the USA what it is today not Forrest. Pike
I tend to disagree. Forrest brought in a lot more casual viewers and ushered in an era of mainstream acceptance because of his fight with Bonnar. That fight showed not only what makes the fights so great, but also what makes the sport so great in his and Bonnar’s talks afterwards.
He may not have fought the fights that all the others did, but his fight was the one that made the UFC more of a household name. TUF really launched the UFC’s recent resurgence and nothing made that more possible than his goofiness, combined with his fighting ability. Dana and Zuffa knows this, that is why he is on the cover of the video game instead of anyone you mentioned.
Notice that Cother did not say he has done more for MMA then anyone else, he said he has done more for MMA IN AMERICA for the reasons listed above. It may be a sad commentary that more people know Forrest on sight than some of those other guys, but he has been much more visible, accessible, and fan friendly than a lot of the big stars.
Forrest is a over rated fighter that’s the bottom line
He is like the rock, the people’s champ
I’m a huge MMA fan and the UFC is at the top of my chart and I know I’m going to get a tongue lashing for this but in my opinion this fight was fixed. I hate to compare MMA with pro wrestling cause they are completely 2 different animals of course but we have all seen Griffin take a worse beating then he got from Silva and from great strikers as well none the less and keep going. Silva’s stock was down after his last 2 fights and Dana White needed to get Silva’s stock back to where it was so he can market him. Now remember guys this is a business first and foremost and a business is all about making as much money as possible . I believe Griffin jobbed for Silva, this is the reason why Griffin bolted out of the ring right away because he was ashamed of himself for doing what he did. I know I will get flamed for all this but all you must think about the whole situation surrounding Silva and his last 2 fights and how his marketability was harmed big time and White needed to do something to get him back on top once again. Again remember this is a “business” first and foremost guys.
Concerned,
I don’t know man. Fixing a UFC fight is way to risky. Dana White is more than aware that if he was caught doing something like that, he would literally destroy the UFC. That is one of the bigger reasons boxing is doing so poorly.
It is agreed by many fighters that the more KO’s and TKO’s you suffer, the easier it is to get your equilirium rocked, causing more TKO’s or KO’s. Forrest’s entire career pretty much consist of fights where he has taken a lot of damage but pulled though. The knockouts by Jardine and Rashad were nasty as well.
After seeing all of Anderson Silvas fights, I beleive that he has the power to do what he did last saturday night.
The third knockdown was not a TKO, it was Griffin excepting the fact that he got knocked down by punches to the face three times in under four minutes of the first round. He knew deep in his heart (one of the biggest in MMA) that he could not beat that man on that night.
Well, going into this fight I thought that Silva would roll over Griffin-turns out that he did. However, I was still surprised at how easy it was. He was psychologically toying with Griffin, as if he was spitting in his face (when he put the hands down and helped him up, et cetera). I think the talk before this fight about Silva got to him and he decided to put on more of a “show.” He’s normally very respectful to everyone and that’s why I was caught offguard with him seemingly taunting Griffin. IMO, the taunting was more to pump himself and the fans up and bring a show. I believe this because after the fight, he no longer said anything bad about Griffin and actually showed him respect. If you look at most of Silva’s past, he’s always had respect for his opponents.
I feel bad for Griffin because he literally fought against the best fighter in the world and he owned up and stepped in the octagon; that gains my respect. All the preparation he went through and everything that he put in must have hit a point where he just couldn’t bare the pressure and left (following his defeat). However, to me, that was not the right move. He may have been hurt, who knows. Under the assumption that he wasn’t badly hurt, he should have shown respect to all his “loyal fans” and owned up to defeat. I agree with those of you who mentioned forest looking a little slower. What you all have to remember is that Anderson Silva moves at a different speed when compared to just about everyone. Stylistically, this was a super mismatch. Opponents that move well with power will give forest a lot of problems (Evans???).
To finish off my opinion, I think that Silva shouldn’t have have been so cocky in the fight, and that Griffin should have faced the music once the fight was over. To me it looked like he threw in the towel and since he threw in the towel, atleast speak afterwards about why that was. I think Forest lost a lot of support with the way he acted and I think Silva gained some with his post-fight comments. I would also argue that we will not see that type of show boating out of the world’s best again. Peace.
As for the fixed fight comment. In this world I guess you never know. However, why fix a fight with the world’s best on display. If anything, you would fix lower profile fights or a medium draw but not this one because if this one were fixed–with the truth coming out later–then the UFC would be finished! I just see no reason to fix this fight when it was very clear to most viewers that Anderson Silva was going to beat Forest Griffin. I bet most expected a longer, more technical bout which is not a bad thing. For instance, Rampage-Griffin was longer and that one was a great fight to watch. My point being, this fight had any of 3 results. Anderson winning like he did, Anderson winning in a hard fought battle, or Griffin winning in a hard fought battle (I don’t think anyone actually thought that Griffin would win easily). The 3 possible outcomes would all be good outcomes and one could argue that a longer bout–in either fighters’ favour–would have been much better for the UFC than the 3 minute domination we saw. Again, just my opinion.
I’m not a Spider fan, but he out classed Forrest, period. Forrest came out game and stayed game til he was put on his back (hard) for the third time. Forrest always gives his all! Unforturnately, it was nowhere near enough in this fight. He will be back better than ever. Not my favorite night of fights, but applaud the fights for all their efforts.
Seriously people, forest is 1 of the more talented fighters in the game right now, but some people are so caught up on him they refuse 2 come 2 reality. Forest has lost his last 2 fights by submision basically. The loss to rashad, every 1 who has cn the fight more than 1nce can clearly tell u that Forest is tapping. Forest body is not being given momentum by Shads punches. Evry 1 who watches can clearly c Forest is tapping. Forest next loss 2 Anderson is another example of him losing by submission. He made 3 hard runs at it. Got dropped 3 times and waved the fight off 2 the ref. Every 1 watching it and that is thinking reasonably can agree he’s waving the fight off. Forest is a really good fighter. But Forest is also a smart man. When he starts getting beat on and his heads getting rocked he taps. Shad and Anderson showed that when he fights a top tier fighter and starts get rocked by top strikers he taps. He’s paid now. He isn’t the crazy hungry Forest ne more. He isn’t the poor cop who’s life depends on this. If he walks away right now he’s paid. He isn’t going 2 risk life threatening injuries and career threatening head trauma ne more. He 1nce used to stand in the ring and go until his body would give out. That was along time ago. He’s now a much better fighter. And a much smarter man. Ull never c the old Forest. He’ll continue 2 get better but he’ll never threaten his career and life again.
Matthew, that was a very reasonable observation.