Fedor Emelianenko Signs With Strikeforce, Will Debut at M-1 Global Co-Promoted Fall Event
Fedor Emelianenko, widely-regarded as the top heavyweight in the world, has signed a “historic, multi-fight agreement” with Strikeforce that will see him headline Strikeforce events co-promoted by M-1 Global.
Strikeforce announced the signing on Monday, which ends more than a week of speculation and negotiation that ensued following the collapse of Affliction’s MMA promotion, which was set to host an August 1 bout between Emelianenko and Josh Barnett only to cancel the card late last month after Barnett tested positive for steroids.
Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.
Fedor’s first Strikeforce fight will air live on Showtime this fall, with a date, location, and opponent to-be-announced.
“I am looking forward to going back to work and fighting at the highest level,” said Emelianenko in the announcement. “Strikeforce is a top fight promotion that houses some of the greatest fighters in the world. I am prepared to fight any of them.”
A former PRIDE heavyweight champion, Emelianenko’s (30-1) notable victories include wins over Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Mark “The Hammer” Coleman, and Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic, Kevin Randleman, Tim Sylvia, and Andrei Arlovski. “The Last Emperor” suffered his lone career loss in 2000 in just 17-seconds due to a cut suffered in the opening moments of the fight.
Fedor submitted Sylvia in just 36-seconds last July before knocking out Arlovski in the opening round of their January bout.
Emelianenko had also been offered a lucrative contract from the UFC, but the UFC’s refusal to co-promote with Fedor’s M-1 management prevented a deal from being reached.
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Put him in there with Werdum on August 15th!!!!!!!!
I love strikeforce because I don’t have to pay 44$ to watch a fight. Don’t forget it’s owned by a billionaire, eventually they will have the premier cards. It’s a stupid mistake for the zuffa Corp to allow Fedor to get away. The ufc should be worried as other top fighters are sure to follow.
lazyassassin, you have no idea what your talking about
Hey Lazy you should check out what Scott Coker has said about the UFC. He doesn’t intend to compete with them and it’s a different market(PPV versus Premium Cable).
Will Coker bid on fighters not under contract or that have been dropped by the UFC? Yes he will but the UFC still pays more and is on a larger scale. He knows competing openly with the UFC is futile. His deal with Fedor is worth considerably less than what the UFC offered Fedor(note I said Fedor not his management) the key was co-promotion. The UFC is more globally focused where as Stikeforce is puts together a good product that isn’t trying to be the #1 organization in the world.
Also there will be no mass exodus of fighters leaving the UFC for Strikeforce. Tito said it himself that Strikeforce is a step down in competition. Strikeforce is solid organization with some really good fighters in a few weight classes but the UFC’s roster is loaded and deep as the Mariana Trench. There’s what maybe two or three fights that’d be worth watching Fedor fight with Strikeforce’s current roster(if that).
Fedor took a step down in competition and pay just so his management is happy. So kudos to Strikeforce for the signing and shame on Fedor for not wanting to compete with a tougher group of fighters.
I second tht GUN…lol
The UFC worried????
His body should be ready to fight, he was supposed to fight this weekend, Scott Coker, do it, do it!!!!!!!!!1
I don’t like this for strikeforce…
Even though Overeem vs. Fedor would be cool to see, I agree with you chrisl; this whole co=promotion stuff is BS and I just would not have thought that StrikeForce would have that much money to invest in one fighter.
You mean the same Overeem that was abused by Kharitonov, Rua, Arona, Lil Nog, and Werdum… I don’t see a win over Overeem proving anything.
The co-promotional deal really worries me. I really like Strikeforce and am hoping that they didn’t hurt themselves too much with the deal they struck. The fact that Coker has been around longer than Zuffa, is the only thing that gives me hope he didn’t screw himself into the ground.
I don’t think a win over Overeem will prove anything either but I would still like to see the fight.
true true
I dont think that they so have enough money, the amount was undisclosed. Regardless, M-1 stood to make much more with the UFC from the PPV buys alone. Terrible business decision on M-1’s part. Co-Promo BS.
i guess we’ll never see Fedor in the UFC then, his loss, Strikeforce won’t do much for his career, the UFC has the best Heavyweights, Strikeforce has decent competition for Fedor, but not UFC caliber competition.
I would still rather see Fedor fight in Strikeforce other than DREAM or whatever else there is. It may not be the premiere organization, but at least they’re not no name fighter, just slightly washed up! ;^D
FEDOR you punk… guess its just about money… DAmn you are a national hero in RUSSIA how much more do you need.. COme get your ass kicked in the UFC….
lol ok
He’s taking a lot less money on this deal. He’s just running from the UFC at all costs.
how do you figure guy? the ufc offered him 30 mill!!! he just doesnt want to fight brock, no one in that division will ever touch those two
30mil…. lol get you facts straight…
they offered him a possible 5 mill 6 fight deal… but was only gaurunteed 2mil… the 5mill was dependant on ppv buys…
fedor is either scared of losing his mythic status… or he feels he needs to warm up with the no2 organisation before coming into the UFC where, if he does well in SF he can get more money…
smart move on fedors part… because imo brock would be the toughest fight fedor will ever have, and fedor has ring rust bad right now
Have him fight Overeem when he heals up!
Fedor is not THAT cool. He’s lost a lot of fans and respect with this. He didn’t even deserve the fat contract that the UFC offered him, but he wants to continue fighting B list fighters than by all means do so, but you can’t truly proclaim to be the best until you fight in the Octagon and defeat the best because right now the UFC has the best Heavyweights period.
His legacy is quickly tarnishing. StrikeForce doesn’t have the deepth or talent needed to prove his P4P ranking.
yeah dude he’s for sure not the best p$p fighter out there at all. He keeps beating B borderline C list fighters and he’ll need to change his name to Fedor”the guy who doesn’t want to fight elite competition who has douchers as managers” Emelianenko.
I was a big Fedor fan bu F-him, he doesn’t deserve to be in the UFC with guys who really put it all on the line and truly fight for the love of fighting and the sport, but hey what else should we expect from a guy who “doesn’t care about a legacy”.
marvelknight4
Fedor”the guy who doesn’t want to fight elite competition who has douchers as managers” Emelianenko.
LOL.
Now that some funny **** right there.
How could they even afford him? Maybe money wasn’t as big of a deal as this “co-promotion” thing with M-1. I wonder what kind of terms M-1 has with StrikeForce. Do they take 1/2 of their profits from that event for having Fedor fight?
Looks like somebody is terrified of Brock. Now Fedor cannot concrete himself as the best pound for pound fighter in the world.
he never did called himself that but he is. i think its great he went to strikeforce.
No, he isn’t. Not now definitely, and likely never was.
Here’s a hint: Torres at 135 is better, pound for pound, than Fedor. GSP at
17170 is better, pound for pound, than Fedor. Shinya Aoki, at 155, is better pound for pound than Fedor. Hell, Urijah Faber is likely better, pound for pound, than Fedor.Add in Silva at 185 and he is MAYBE #5 at best. Penn at 155 has to be in the mix. Alvarez (155), Mousasi (185/205), Machida, all also in the mix and, because they are smaller likely better POUND FOR POUND. That puts him nearing the #10 mark.
Heavyweights are NEVER p4p best in combat sports because there’s too much of them for it to be so.
edit~FR702
a little far there with aoki there dbiz
Gun, I see your objection and raise you one thrown Fedor in the grappling match.
dbiz, gsp even said fedor is the best p4p fighter, and how do you figure the smaller fighters are better p4p. face it ufc doesnt have the best fighter just live with it.
Because, smart guy, P4P means POUND FOR POUND. That means that the smaller you are, the more skills you have per pound. So, for guys of equal talent/skills (take Torres and Fedor), Torres has more PER POUND. That is why Tyson was never the best pound for pound boxer, despite how good he was for a while.
Furthermore, GSP is a humble guy and will never call himself the best p4p. I applaud that. But, until Fedor starts fighting real competition, he will never climb the list. By ducking the UFC, he has shown that he isn’t willing to fight the best. C’est la vie, he’s sliding down the list with every new fighter.
I’m not huge on the P4P debate and such but I’m a big fan of understanding and trying to spread the word that Miguel Torres hasn’t lost in damn near 6 years and has quite the resume (if you aren’t familar with some of the names so be it I understand that some won’t be) but for P4P he is my top cat (<—great bar by the same name in Grand Rapids Michigan by the way)… Ofcourse the GSP Anderson Silva are the huge names but you gotta dig the Mexican Mullet and the powers he brings to the cage, ring or otherwise
2cents provided to you as a gift
like usual dbiz you have not idea what your talking about, and i know what p4p means but you dont.
So the fact that Aoki hung with Fedor in a SAMBO-style grappling exhibition means that he ISN’T as good at Fedor when you break it down to a pound for pound comparison? I’m confused. If a high school bully can barely beat up a 4th grader, doesn’t that reflect poorly on the bully?
I suppose you can give a better technical breakdown of what p4p means then Mr. Flat? If so let’s hear it, really interested on what exactly your theories here are giving that dbiz’s explanation was somehow incorrect. Oh and before I forget to mention it….Nati foolz!
Fedor is irrelavent! Until he enters the octagon we shouldn’t even talk about him. His name should never be mentioned with GSP or Anderson Silva for the P4P best in MMA. Listen to what GSP and Anderson Silva say, they’d fight anybody any time, even move into different weight classes. Please stop talking about!!
Ok is anyone really surprised?
Dude, what a stupid mistake. This should end all debate and discussion about fedor being p4p best fighter because the bottom line is that we’ll never really get to see if he actually is, or was the best. Who’s really going to test him in strikeforce? I really don’t know if it was the management, the co-promotion ****, or fedor himself, who ever made the decision, ****ed it all up dude!
I agree, but if Fedor does well and dosen’t lose, maybe we’ll see him in a few years. But, will all the UFC and mma fans care?
This is like a good news, bad news sort of thing for me.
The good news is, I won’t have to deal with Fedor, his traveling road circus, and his entire “Cult of Fedor” fanbase every time he fights in the UFC.
I was one of the small minority of fans who’s very first choice was to not see Fedor in the UFC at all, regardless of contract value, so I guess [for now] I and the very few who felt about Fedor like I do catch a break.
The bad news is that Strikeforce, an MMA promotion that I think gains momentum and respect with every passing event, has sort of “made a deal with the Devil”, so to speak.
M-1 Global’s previous partners didn’t exactly wildly benefit from the M-1 Global business model of, “give us half the cash and none of the responsibility”, so I’m not sure that Strikeforce will either.
Hopefully I’m wrong, and Scott Coker will keep the lid on things with Fedor’s parasitic manager Vadim Finklestein, and maybe try speaking directly to Fedor, instead of using all of these intermedieries and hangers-on Fedor surrounds himself with.
It would be a horrible thing for the sport if the M-1 Global curse “afflicted” Strikeforce, so lets hope for the best for Strikeforce and their fans.
I’m also waiting to hear fr702 weigh in on this matter…
Thank god this is over with all this FEDOR this and that crap. Go get your arse kicked by some “Nobody” and then hopefully the UFC won’t want his pathetic a$$.
Dana said the offer was going to remain on the table. I’m willing to bet that won’t be the case any longer. Any offer after this should rightfully be lower, since Fedor has shown that it isn’t about money.
If he ever gets his balls back from M-1, I’d love to see him get the same money and everything but co-promotion offered to him.
To clarify, I meant the same money as his strikeforce contract
Fedor dodging the UFC….I hope Brett Rogers knocks him out and that will be the end for the last emperor.
Gentlemen,
Fedor is without a doubt 1 of MMA’s top ranked fighters and arguably the top heavyweight in the MMA world today. I feel Fedor’s move to sign with Strikeforce is a very…. very bad move.
Busness Side: Strikeforce does not generate the viewers and gate pay the UFC does, co-promotion is not going to do a thing for Fedor’s M-1 organization.
Career: Fedor will have hungry young competion to deal with (eg.. Bret Rogers) however UFC is where “The Real Deal” is at. Fedor can steamroll thru these young fighter and remain un-touchable.
Reality Check: True MMA fans lost respect for Fedor and now consider him a “Corporate Punk” who is only fighting for money. In MY opinion Fedor is not a true fighter and has lost my respect.
reality check… he is making less money on this deal than with the UFC
Big mistake, if Fedor loses to Brett Rogers or Overeem or Werdum, the UFC will not offer him a contract, and if they do, it will be for a lot less money.
Stupid, they should take him off the pound for pound list, especially considering Brett Rogers beat Arlovski alot faster than Fedor, and Ray Mercer beat Tim Sylvia alot faster than Fedor.
TRUE THAT
“I am looking forward to going back to work and fighting at the highest level,” said Emelianenko.
Is he serious? He honestly believes Strikeforce is the highest level? There are guys in Strikeforce who couldn’t cut it in the UFC – that’s why they’re there. (Read: Robbie Lawler, Phil Baroni, Terry Martin, Joe Riggs)
Give me a break. Fedor is just a product of his promoters, and honestly, I think he’s way overhyped. Who has he beat in his recent fights? A washed-up Tim Sylvia and a fighter in Andrei Arlovski who was more focused on his boxing career (and he actually was dominating Fedor before he got caught). I think he was just scared of Brock Lesnar. There’s no way he wanted to go into the UFC and have to fight Lesnar straight away. He would have been destroyed, and he knows it.
Hey Justin, watch the fighter bashing…
I’ve always wanted to say that.
Fighter -”bashing”?
Thats more like fighter-”rock ‘em/sock’em robots to me…
Different Justin.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
that is great
People can have the same name on here???
he never hit fedor once other than the kick to the gut watch the slow motion replay on youtube.
i kind of agree with you new justin
Yeah, dbiz I agree. “IF” the UFC still wants him after his Strikeforce extravaganza give him chump change for this bull$hiott decision to fight {sorry} but SCRUBS.
He is just terrified to fight in the UFC because he knows he would get killed and his name would be tarnished big time.
M-1 must have a video of fedor blowing some dude for him to put up with all the crap that his “manager” is throwing in the mix. UFC’s deal was obviously better in all aspects minus the co promotion part, and even that’s argueable since they would allow M1 to advertise and take a percentage of the ppv’s. I like that Dana didn’t blast Fedor on the conference call cuz now it just seems like Fedor and M1 are ****’s that are afraid to come get stomped on by UFC fighters.
I think we both got hit with an amusing censor…and agreed – the guy looks like a foolish coward/blowhard.
Forget Lesnar’s antics – I think Fake-dor is the real WWE deal!
(which will be his only option for future “fights” if he continues to make these awful decisions)
He’s done.
M-1 screwed the deal up for Fedor. They just want to co promote him basically trying to get their foot in the door in an American company. They screwed Affliction up and they are going to do the same with Strikeforce in my mind.
wow. wtf! im shocked by this. all it was that was holding fedor back was the co-promotion issue… no it was the fact he didnt want to be destroyed by the vanilla gorilla. M-1 handpicks fedors opponents so fedor gets layups. fedor would have lost to brock, been ko’d by carwin and mir would have submitted him. strikeforce is definitely less dangerous for him to fight. i would love to see fedor’s fans come up with excuses when rogers ko’s fedor.
“oh fedor is great because he ko’d AA”, yet rogers ko’d AA way faster so that makes him greater.
“fedor destroyed Timmy in less than 40 seconds” yep, mercer ko’d him with his first punch in 10 seconds. so mercer is better
this whole co-promotion is crap. M-1 wants the other organization to promote the entire fight, pay for the advertisements, billboards, tv commercials, etc. as well as pay the venue where the fight is, then M-1 wants 50% of the profits. thats not copromontion. thats freakin robbery.
guess what happens now to strikeforce when fedor fights. they will make the fight a pay per view instead of being free on showtime. pay per view= more money for M-1 to steal.
i cant wait until rogers beats fedor. i will laugh so damn hard for a long time.
I wont be buying that one. Thats like payin MLB ticket prices to see a AAA team play.
by the way justin, i believe this is the first time you have ever typed so aggressively towards a fighter. cheers!
I think that Justin’s response is a great indication of how far gone this Fedor thing is, and how very sick the rest of us are of listening to the Fedorians go on and on about how their man is the best MMA fighter in the world in mid-2009 because of some admittedly dominant Japanese shoot-fighting performances he delivered back in mid-2005.
It’s all fine and well to blame Fedor’s manager Finklestein, or the Russian Mob, or some other nameless, faceless functionaries of M-1 Global for the Fedor problem, but ultimately the man is responsible for his own life, and his own affairs.
And like many of us have posted repeatedly, primarily for the benefit of those Fedorians who repeatedly embarrass themselves here at the frenZy with their posted POVs, Fedor is the majority owner of M-1 Global, something his supporters frequently forget or ignore when making their a$$-hatted case for Fedor in the discussion.
If Fedor prefers easier fights against lower-level competitors, thats his right. Its when we’re asked to buy into the whole “fighting at the highlest level” thing where Fedor’s rep sort of takes a beating.
And apparently is the straw that breaks the camel’s, or in this case Justin’s, proverbial back.
Unfortunately for Fedor, M-1 Global, and the Fedorians, the MMA fan community is a lot more savvy now then they were maybe 5 years ago. Taking fights against opponents either not yet ready for the UFC, or those that lack the ability to stay in the UFC, is MOST CERTAINLY NOT an indication that you’re the best p4p MMA fighter in the world, or even the best HW for that matter.
I read Fedor only holds 20% of M-1, but I don’t have any solid evidence to back that up.
That was a different Justin.
you guys are crazy, i know everyone wants to see him in the ufc. but there are not a bunch of fighters that would beat him in the ufc. that maybe what you guys want to believe just because he wont come. randy would of been a good fight 3 years ago. brock and carwin and all the others could beat fedor but not every time not even half the time. winning 30 and only losing one especially when they were the biggest names at the time. and the one was a cut. and he did not offer him 30 million for six fights. dana would of already boasted about it if he did that was just a rumor that has already been proven wrong. this is ok for me he has not fought any of the strikeforce hws. and i bet he could go fight where ever he want also on the side. m-1 is smarter than everyone thinks, they suck big time because the dont care about the fans, but if strikeforce stays around because of this im ok with it. you cant give dana all the power thats not a good thing either.
Cross reference his opponents in Japan with the current UFC champions at the time and you’ll quickly be forcrd to admit how ridiculous your claim is that he was beating the best in the world.
If Fedor gets beat, Strikeforce goes belly-up, Dana steps in and signs him for a whole lot less, do the fans win?
Not necessarily, Fred. StrikeForce didn’t build their promotion around one fighter like other promotions did (EliteXC and Affliction). Also, we have no way of knowing (at least not yet anyway) of the terms of the deal. Also, they are only co-promoting on events in which Fedor headlines. And another point, if StrikeForce does fold while having Fedor under contract I’m sure he will prance his fat a$$ back to Japan.
I enjoy that comment Ether good looking out
Well i dont think that one days time is enough for strikeforce to focus their organazation around Fedor, yet. But I promise you the focus point will be on Fedor as all of the future SF events will be along the lines of “FEDOR presents (in affiliation with strikeforce) MMA MANIA!!!” Just you wait.
Who cares! The only fight I think that would be good for the fans is a fight with Lesnar. Affliction went down co-promoting with m-1 and Fedor so let’s see if Stikeforce can stay alive with M-1. Maybe M-1 is like the Sports Illustrated cover jinx. Every company that works with M-1 will go bankrupt.
“Every company that works with M-1 will go bankrupt”
Well that isn’t exactly true, ProElite got bought out by StrikeForce and well actually had a little positive cash once it was all said and done..
Affliction MMA was taken over by the UFC ie purchased, soo neither went bankrupt
Bodog fight just stopped their financial status I’m not certain of.
While we do and should stand corrected, fr702, maybe a better way to phrase it is, “lets try to find a compnay that has worked with M-1 Global that has profitted and/or benefitted from the arrangement”…
When it’s all said and done, Fedor will be known for the guy who dominated in Pride, but he will for sure not be known as the best, rather than the guy who was thought to be the best but never proved it nor ever wanted to prove it.
Like said before, he’s most likely going to lose to a B borderline C fighter and lose all his aura and he’ll be looked at as a joke, him and his whole group of DIVAS.
Fedor is a joke. It seems as if he is hiding behond M-1 Global coz he knows he can’t compete with the Heavyweight division in the UFC. Watch Strikeforce fold like Affiction did, now that m-1 global is Co-presenting shows now. If Strikeforce fold ( like they will) i dont think Dana would offer him a contract.
“I am looking forward to going back to work and fighting at the highest level,”
Is he serious, If this statement were true, then he would have been seeking out the UFC, not the other way around. I was never really a Lesnar until all this Fedor BS. Now I really wanted to see Brock beat the $h*t out of em. This is like GSP leavin the UFC to fight lower competition in StrikeForce for less money….Makes no sense.
I seriously have no respect for a guy like fedor and i honestly don’t see how all the super fedor freaks can have respect for their “champion” after this. Seriously, think about everything that has happened this past week, and just stop think about how all this finally ended and the way it did. Justin is right, Fedor was hella scared of brock. I honestly think fedor doesn’t believe his own hype and was very much intimidated by the UFC and everything the UFC is. The cage, the “show”, and of course the fighters.
I like strikeforce and a lot of the fighters fighting for strikeforce, but i don’t think this was a good addition for them. They are going to have a lot of problems finding “suitable” opponents.
Unless you are from Russia, why would anyone still support this dude?
Come on, what “top level” competition does he expect to face, Brett Rogers, haha come on….
For the love of God, please let this be the end of the ‘Fedor is God’ saga. He has reduced himself to a punchline. A very wealthy, and very overrated punchline. I am sure that Jose Canseco will put up a decent showing against The Last Emporer sometime this fall, but I am confident that Fedor will come out on top. He always does. For the love of God, please let this be the end.
Fedor saw Rocky IV he knows what would happen when u fight our balboa (lesnar). Drago got his ass kicked then and hed get it kicked again
this is simply the battle of two unbendable objects. Fedor/M-1 wont bend in just taking a contract without the “Co-Promotion” stipulation, no matter how big/small the contract is. Dana White/UFC wont bend in taking the contract with the “Co-Promotion.”
As a fan, I think both parties are unreasonable, because they are depriving us of the best possible fights. Dana doesnt need Fedor to make cash hand-over-fist and Fedor doesnt need Dana to do the same, so because both people suck so much we just have to deal with Fedor vs. B Sqaud.
You cant be mad at Dana though. If you helped create the largest mma promotion in history and someone wanted to share YOUR company with you, would you offer everything you worked for for this ONE fighter? M-1 Global is the kiss of death for whoever sits them (M-1 G) in the drivers seat.
Not to mention, M-1 allegedly “only wanted half” of whatever risk/profit came out of the co-promoted shows…
I hope rodgers gets him first, he might just shock all of us
Congrats to UFC for offering a ton but unwilling to co-promote. Just because M1 has Fedor doesn’t been everyone has to co-promote to get him. He is just a man and the UFC has many fighters who put on very good shows.
fedor fought the best competition at the time? really? Hong-Man Choi was the best opponent for fedor? how about an undersized matt lindland? or heath herring? babulu? ricardo arona? randleman? randleman is a 205er and he was the best opponent for fedor? who else was a 205er at that time that would of beat fedor? wandy, thats who!!! wandy of 2004 was a goddamn silverback gorilla who was pi$$ed off. fedor fights people he knows he will beat, he doesnt take fights with guys who have a great chance of beating him. he balked on the ufc because of the two vanilla gorillas in carwin and brock, not to mention mir would more than likely beat fedor. mir ko’d big nog. fedor only got a decision on big nog. mir is obviously better…
Good post but Nog isnt himself anymore dude.
I think this move just shows Fedor and his people are not ambitious enough and are only interested in the cash ?!, he cannot say the top fighters in the world fight in strikeforce and actually believe it?, his advisors are unbelievable in a bad way ! lol , Fedor v Lesnar would be a fight for the fans , but i guess he thinks he is bigger than the sport demanding the earth , ufc will never co promote with M1 so i guess there is no way we will see this fight , Fedor v Overeem doesn’t excite me in the slightest?!!!?
F~Finkledinkle <—-yes I still stand by this..
Now M~1 has to go and touch StrikeForce, a few thoughts instantly ran through my head today when I first became aware of this…
1. wow now I’m going to see Fedor fight in person (something I’ve always wanted to do since his PRIDE days)
2. wonder if he is going to be there on the 15th
3. I trust that Coker has himself “protected” from the downfalls of having the M~1 CO~promotion thing destroy orgs (Bodog and Affliction)
4. Nice that they only Co~promote Fedor fights (twice a year?)
The UFC won’t co~promote, they have been burned before and honestly why would they give money to an upstart ORG such as M~1…. Dana doesn’t believe in it and honestly FOR the UFC he is making the right move, it financially isn’t sound to copromote for the UFC, so F it give the cat what he wants a butt load of money and call it a day…. Dana and Lorenzo did the right thing, the last thing anyone wanted was for UFC and M~1 bring you UFC 105 or some shhh like that..
StrikeForce and Mr. Scott Coker have had a history of successful Co~promotions and well Coker works with DREAM officials, K~1 Max, WVR, what use to be Affliction and ProElite officials and well he has grown that company through working with others, soo I’m rather confident that he has protected his Org from the pitfalls of lets say Affliction (3.2 million to M~1, 300,000 to Fedor per event, thats 7million for two fights)
I agree with you there FR my only worry is for Strikeforce giving up too much but Scott Coker knows what he is doing. That’s the only reason why I didn’t get the shovel and casket out for Strikeforce when I heard this.
*sorry bout that had to change computers…
I don’t like the Idea of M~1 having their “hands” in the business of StrikeForce what so ever.. Perhaps you have realized I’m not a fan of the Finkledinkle guy, but seriously I do have faith that Coker and his people have drafted up a contract that 1. protects the intrests of StrikeForce first and 2. allows M~1 to only Co~Promote on cards that have Fedor “headlining”… It is a tricky dynamic imo and this is the difference between StrikeForce and the UFC.. ZUFFA doesn’t need to co promote with anyone, and well StrikeForce almost has no choice, hell Ishida is coming from a DREAM/K~1 contract to fight on the 15th…
AS a fan of MMA and a person that goes to StrikeForce events, its kinda cool to be honest that Fedor is fighting for (with) them, I’ve always wanted to see the man fight, and if he and Overeem fight that will be cool…
I don’t like the what has been done over the last week or so but I will tell you that I won’t forget F~Finkledinkle and I truly hope that StrikeForce sustains their growing success with or without Fedor.. I wonder if this has “angered” Dana and if Dana and Coker have “talked” about this today?
Honestly, I don’t believe this would sour the relationship between Dana and Coker. Dana made the best offer he could reasonably make(without giving up too much) and Fedor chose to take a lesser one that was more beneficial to his management. Dana can’t be mad at Coker for that. I suspect you will hear more “F-Finkledinkle” type talk from Dana and him trashing Fedor for ducking a deeper roster but I don’t think this would sour the Strikeforce-Zuffa unspoken “armistice.” I hope not at least.
I do enjoy Strikeforce in it’s own right and the UFC as well. To me it’s like the difference between watching MLS and the UEFA leagues, I enjoy both even though one is still a higher level of competition.
MLS and UEFA < ——– thats nice right there
Yeah, I like the fact that there is another MMA promotion, even if they can never be as mainstream as the UFC. I think healthy competition is…healthy! I think it’s good for other fighters who need a second chance or up and comers to show their worth. Strikeforce live on! As far as Fedor goes, maybe Strikeforce will focus on finding good heavyweights!
*Random question FR, do you know if Gomi signed with Strikeforce?
lol FR! i don’t even try to watch MLS.. it really is like watching girls soccer compared to overseas. specially the EPL and like you said UEFA..
L4,
I think Gomi is with WVR (Sengoku).
L4- Gomi is I believe a free agent. He was signed to Sengoku but I believe he finished up his contract. He was looking to come overseas (hence the Affliction deal) so I have no idea what his deal is.
T3chn3tnium- you act like you are a fan Bolton…oh wait
believe me I prefer to watch the Italian League myself(Forza Nerazzurri!), just gets a little expensive to watch the good leagues when it isn’t on ESPN.
Thanks Fellas.
No surprise here, Fedor is now completely irrelevant. I’m glad that this Fedor to the UFC speculation is finally put to bed. Congrats to him for taking his company up a few notches, but aside from that he has done nothing for the fans who ultimately make or break a fighter and his or her legacy. He’ll be talked of as one of the greatest fighters who wouldn’t step up to the UFC challenge. I’ll be looking forward to rooting for someone to knock him out in Strike Force.
This will be then end of the “Fedorians” like jcohl likes to call them. Fedor will lose his “Fedorness” and be the laughing stock of the MMA-Frenzy community when Brett fu*kin Rogers who ko’d Arlovski ko’s Fedor, or some other B lister becomes Buster Douglas.
Unfortunately, MK4, this won’t be the end of the Fedorians most likely.
This will just send them scurrying to amazon or some other sight to scarf up as many PRIDE DVDs as they can, so they have something to watch at their Fedor tea parties while they are waiting for Fedor’s management to suss out a suitably unprepared and/or undersized opponent for the [failed] Russian Military Experiment to fight at M-1 Global Presents: Strikeforce, What the Fu<k Were We Thinking?
Fedor is AFRAID to fight Brock Lesnar, that’s why he won’t sign with the UFC.
Really think that’s going to happen? It would be a trip if it did, but Fedor is still a good fighter! I know he hasn’t fought “UFC” material, but he has beaten good fighters. But DAMN, if Brett Rogers KO’d Fedor, they should give him Fedor’s contract!
*has beat good fighters*
Good to see him signed to something, but was still hoping the UFC would have worked out just due to better match-ups being available. This should obviously end the speculation that Fedor hates the cage.
Sure, he doesn’t hate the cage. He just hates true competition.
The cage should actually help Fedor’s performance, based on his skillset.
It was the thought of Lesnar running Fedor up into that cage while g-n-p’ing him like he owed Lesnar money that made the Last Emperor a bit queasy…
didn’t we have this exact discussion over this a few weeks/days ago… haha
who cares! what happens when there is no fights left for him because ufc singed all other fighters. if hes not the ufc is becomes a never was instaed of could of been
i do believe i called this. put him in with overeem and end all this talk about fedor.. getting on my nerves
A guy like Fedor shouldn’t even be considered a p4p best fighter in the world, he for sure hasn’t shown that he wants to fight the best rather has shown a lack of desire to truly challenge himself and has shown a lack to want to prove that he is the best(which he is not). He knows that if he keeps beating these B and C and even D list fighters he’s going to maintain this aura that the Fedorians along with the other people living in Fedoria have created, and he knows that as long as he doesn’t lose he gets to keep acting like he’s sombody special. But sooner or later someone is going to knock him out, might be Fabricio Werdum, you know the guy who likes to drop his head before getting KTFO.
first off the ufc is the mma organazation that will always be on top and they have done so much for mma. most of you are commenting on the money issue and you dont know how much the strikeforce deal is for yet. plus you dont know how much ufc “really” offered fedor im sure it was way over the 400-500,000 thousand a main star of the ufc gets and it was probably was a couple million a fight. but it wasnt 30 million for six fights thats bs totally and was started by someone at yahoo sports. if it was true then dana on the conf. call he would of said that i just offered him 30 million, he said i offerd him as much as i could. so you should get it right!!!!!!another thing you should get right is that this is someones job and they should go to work where they want and get paid how they want. co-promotion is going to get them bank.yes i know fink is a greedy dude, and i would much rather see him in the ufc. last point is that the only other person who has fought the same caliber his whole career is anderson silva. and if you look back at any of my statements fedor is not my favorite fighter!!!personally i think lyoto is the best fighter in the world and it is sheer crap to say that fighting nog 3 times when he was younger and more athletic, cro cop when he was better, mark coleman when he was younger,heath herring who brock couldnt finish!!!!!!ricardo arona,babalu,kevin randleman when he was younger and better, he also showed he could take being slammed on his head.tim sylvia and aa.if you say these guys are chumps then the only good fighters that have ever fought as a hw in ufc before two years ago are terrible.you were all sweatin his nuts when he was comin now hes scared of the ufc fighters?? i need to get some of the greens you guys smoke, you guys are going crazy because you didnt get what you want. maybe dana shouldnt say stuff like we are going to get a deal with fedor to everyone because that puts all the balls in m-1 court.maybe he should started out “really offering him 30 million” because i know they will pay m-1 5-10 million for their half of the shows fedor comes to.coker is a pro he wont go under hes alot better promotion than afflited and kimbo-xc.ufc has more hw fighters but the top 3 in strikeforce are just as good as the top 3 in ufc.randys record sucks and hes fought 205ers just like fedor. carwin is a beast you wont hear me say anything bad about him.brock hasnt even fought nog and if he makes a stupid mistake, even less than a mistake than he made with mir and nog would submit him.even the other best in the world pound for pound fighters have lost to people they shouldnt have but fedor never does so give the man his credit.
i have always had showtime and i will enjoy watchin him fight werdum,rodgers and oveerheem.i would rather see him fight carwin,and brock and mir.but im not going to bash him because of this.dana does not need to run all of mma!!!!!!!!!!!
Citation needed.
Which is a real nice way of saying, “WTF?!”…
You’re supposed to have two spaces after a period not zero, that would make things a lot easier to read. K? Thanks.
The contract offered to Fedor by the UFC was something along the lines of 2 million guaranteed per fight, the 5 million was a number that was based on projected PPV buys. Some of the other stuff I will just say I don’t know where you’re getting that from, especially 5-10 million for M1?
Fauxdor
Winner.
In all phases of life…:)
And its nice to see that we’re almost all in agreement that the MMA urban legend known as Fedor allowed his manager to run his already-deteriorating career even further onto the rocks than it already was.
All I hope is that in self-destructing, M-1 Global doesn’t damage Strikeforce in any way. They are a solid org, and don’t deserve winding up like Affliction and Adrenaline and BoDog and Lord only knows how many other “skeletons” there are in the M-1 closet…
Maybe without meaning to, Fedor and M-1 are turning the UFC into a true monopoly of the MMA game. He keeps signing with these orgs and they all eventually fold. If Strikeforce follows suit, then the UFC has become the only North American MMA org worth its weight in pennies. Maybe it’s another Dana conspiracy theory.
dont make fun of me when you guys read this but im gonna predict a matchup with fedor in of his fights with strikeforce…… Cung Le. somehow the signing of fedor and the opportunity of a “blockbuster mega-fight” with “the best pound for pound fighter in the world[fedor]” <not really… maybe this entices Cung Le to come out of his retirement/acting career. after all he is about making money, and fedor will demand a lot of money and Cung Le might throw his hat in the ring. dont be suprised when it happens.
personally i could care less if it happens, I am a fan of neither guy, but given the track record of fedor taking "winnable" fights against smaller opponents, this has a great chance of happening.
No mocking you here, bigchris2328.
I was thinking that Fedor’s first Strikeforce opponent would be Frank Shamrock…
Hey, if they put Shamrock in there, they’d at least sell out the Shark Tank. (Selling out a venue is something that Affliction did not do.)
Jusitn, the HP usually sells out and well StrikeForce is a pretty big deal in San Jose… Also I’m rather certain that StrikeForce doesn’t need to have Fedor fight LiL Shammy Shamm to sell that biotch out
I know, that was meant as a jab at Defunction err.. Affliction and Fedor’s (what seems to be) non-ability to make money for American MMA promotions. That was not intended as anything at all derogatory to Strikeforce.
apologies
No worries.
Fedor and crew are running from Brock
In case you guys missed out on the interview Fedor did with Bas Rutten, he said he does not care about his legacy or what he leaves behind in MMA. The only people that care about his legacy are the people who are upset that he hasn’t signed with the UFC.
Fedor’s first love is sambo. He cares about that more than MMA and that is why he was so ademant in negotiations about being able to compete in it. Trust me, he cares far more about his sambo legacy than he does about MMA.
I commend Fedor for not letting money come before trying to get M-1 Global off the ground. After all, he owns half of it. If you think co-promotion isn’t a big deal. Ask Oscar de la Hoya how beneficial it was that he was able to promote the fight between him and Mayweather. He made way more than Mayweather did for that fight because he got the promotion dollars.
I’m not saying that I’m not upset we won’t see Fedor vs Brock, Mir, and Couture. I would kill to see any of those fights. But having more MMA companies with big name fighters is better for everyone.
To insinuate that Fedor is scared of Brock is assanine. This is a guy with 30 wins and 1 loss on his record and in case you just joined the MMA fanbase, he accumulated 75% of those wins fighting the BEST heavyweights in the world when all everyone could talk about was how great Pride was. True, the best heavyweight division NOW belongs to the UFC, but when Fedor was beating everyone he was fighting in the best Heavyweight Div. in the world. At that time the UFC heavyweight div. was Tim Sylvia and Cabbage Correira.
Where to begin, where to begin…when you get a post with this many errors and this much misinformation, I feel like I need to get out TWO red markers…
Well, I guess I could START by pointing out that 75% of 30 is about 22. If you check wikipedia and scope out Fedor’s record, you’re not going to find 22 wins over “the BEST heavyweights in the world”, even if the Russian Mob is holding a Takarov to your head.
You’re going to find about a dozen wins against men that were/are average competitors in the UFC, and the rest of Fedor’s record is filled with no-names, has-beens, never-will-be’s, MWs and LHWs, and sideshow acts like Zuluhino and Hong Man Choi.
So maybe you should work on either your basic math, or basic reading, or both before weighing in on this issue.
THEN I could point out that if Fedor’s first love is SAMBO, and MMA is a far less urgent priority, then why did Fedor balk at the UFC’s most recent contract offers which allowed him to do “SAMBO every fu<king Thursday", if he wanted, as per Dana White?
ALSO, if SAMBO is what Fedor cares about, then why does he direct his manager to waste all of our time, not to mention Zuffa's, with these pointless and insane negotiations??
Maybe instead of worrying about the old Bas Rutten interview, you should try checking out the new Dana White conference call video before posting on the subject of the Fedor negotiations, and try setting a new "standard".
MOVING ON, I could point out how boxing has been ruined beyond recovery by greedy and stupid men doing greedy and stupid things, so why would any MMA enthusiast advocate heading down the co-promotional path, which has proven to be both stupid and greedy, as well as detrimental to the sport?
ESPECIALLY with a clearly unpromotable and unmarketable man like Fedor, who apparently is the only human being to ever survive a charisma triple-bypass.
NOT to mention why would the UFC, the planet's premiere MMA organization, agree to co-promote with a steaming pile like M-1 Global, run by a weasel like Vadim Finklestein, and for a man like Fedor who admittedly cares more about SAMBO than MMA?
At some point you just have to start using your head before posting this sort of crap.
I mean, honestly.
Co-promotion? With M-1 Global?
That's like your hometown Pop Warner co-promoting the SuperBowl with the NFL.
Think before you post, thats all we ask.
And finally, I suppose I could point out that this thread is more about current events, and less about MMA/Japanese shoot-fighting history. Yes, we all know that years ago Fedor did an excellent job of winning fights in PRIDE. Thanks for the reminder.
However it might be helpful to the discussion if Fedor's supporters tried living in the NOW, instead of rambling on and on about the "good old days" like the crazy old lady in your neighborhood who owns like 20 cats.
No one is denying that once upon a time Fedor beat a lot of people in shoot-fighting matches in a pro wrestling ring, some of whom were HW's, and some of those were pretty good in PRIDE, and have proven to be not too bad in the caged MMA environment of the UFC.
But by now you should have gotten the picture, and will hopefully keep the frame for future reference.
Class dismissed…
And let me say right now that I know this is going to come off as overly harsh, and some kindhearted and well-meaning mod is going to take me to task for picking apart thestandard's nonsensical post, but it bears mentioning that this is EXACTLY what bsbiz was talking about in his post yesterday, about people not bothering to do even the minimum basic research before posting all sorts of gibberish here in the commentaries section.
Thank Christ the forum area is a but more discerning when it comes to this type of thing…
Were you ever a garbage man in your storied life Jcohl.
Cause you sure know how to take out the trash.
Merci beaucoup
It’s like a mini-vacation with all this sense-talking out of you lately. I taught you well.
Much obliged for the support, gentlemen…
What Heavy Weight fighters do strikeforce have or can get for Fedor? The one’s they have Werdum / Overeem / Rogers. Fighters they can bring in for Fedor ,Antonio Silva ,maybe Barnett {in a year but it just won’t have the same hype because Barnett will be rusty} , maybe Arlovski again , Pedro Rizzo, Roy Nelson , Mark Hunt ,Bobby Lashely {maybe they could try this to get a big PPV from the casuel fans}, Gilbert Yvel. Strikeforce has a few fight options but even if they get a big draw ,they have to give half to M-1, they’ll probably just break even like they would on a average card
Roy Nelson is on the TUF 10 (UFC) cast
Gilbert Yvel possible ya
Jeff Monson sure
Don’t forget that Strikeforce has Roger Gracie signed to contract, if someone can get him in the cage
And pretty much anyone in the HW division, “hey do you want to fight Fedor”? thats how that would go down…
Antonio Silva may be “banned for life” from competing in the US. I also wonder if Strikeforce is going to bank their promoting dollars on Fedor “The Last Emperor” Emelianenko vs. Josh “I tested positive for steroids three times in seven years” Barnett.
Justin- I am pretty sure there’s no maybe with Silva, at least in Cali.
This might be off-topic, but is there anyway that Silva could petition to have his lifetime ban lifted?
This is probably a Justipedia thing, but any info would be much appreciated…
It is a little off topic. However, I believe he could appeal for it but I cannot imagine it ever being lifted. He was suspended, then he signed a contract for his last fight, was warned by CSAC that he would be banned for life, and then did it anyways. So he knew what he was risking and still did it. It’d be hard to convince someone to overturn that decision since he directly defied a decision issued by CSAC. No other AC would probably touch him here.
He can, sure, but he will still have to serve the suspension he ran from. He isn’t OFFICIALLY banned, to my knowledge, but he did run off to Japan and fight while on suspension from the CSAC if I recall correctly.
I also believe that all the AC’s of the various states here respect and abide by existing suspensions, so he is effectively banned, if not outright.
What a **** – whose he gonna fight? Ridiculous – the best fight the best.
This is boxing-promotion stupidity brought into the MMA.
Good riddance, you ain’t no thang Mr. Fake_dor Me_me_me_n_co
(and my eastern european ancestry normally makes me think favourable of folks from my ancestors part of the world)
You cann’t even compare the Strikeforce contact to the UFC’s. I am finding alot of people are saying the whole co-promotion thing was for M-1 notoriety.. which technically makes NO-sense. “well fedor owns half of the company{M-1}”. UFC has 1 PPV per month plus Fight nights and TUF.. and Strikeforce a company that has a PPV every 2-3months on average sometimes 2 in back to back months but not to often. M-1 would have more publicity from Fedor walking out with M-1 clothing on to the UFC octagon and putting up a M-1 bander behind him in the cage before the fight and wearing M-1 gear on UFC countdowns plus free UFC reruns of the event, then “CO-PROMOTING” with Strikeforce. UFC has way more coverage which means more people are going to see him with M-1 gear on, then whats going to see him “co-promoting” with Strikeforce. If Fedor wanted publicity for M-1 maybe he should of asked for a M-1 symbol placed in the octangon when he fights.. kind of like the Tapout symbol or maybe to Co-promote a season of TUF if he was the Coach / if he learned english.. just something more reallistic then I want half of all money made my UFC on Nights which I fight plus a sweet contact with almost no rules. Come on.
Strikeforce does PPV’s? They have signed with Showtime/CBS and haven’t put on a PPV since their “new deal”…. They also were only a “live event” business for quite sometime and recently have gotten into the “tv business”
I shudder when ppl talk about how the UFC has the best HW division and that it’s HW division is sooo strong.
UFC carwin (older than brock or fedor, unproven b/c has only two non-can fights and they are not vs even the best the UFC has out there), Randy (over the hill), Mir (over-rated with a poor record compared to fighters who are the best in other divisions), Brock (4 wins and a loss what else do you have to say… 1-1 vs mir and then some wins against to not so great fighters and old randy… and a belt shot one win off a loss??? Sounds like Dana just hyped him up to make some cash… no fight can be said to be that great while still at 4-1), Cain (6 wins nearly all of which are cans, come on), lets see Kongo (not that great of record and even heath herring beat him.. I don’t think he is on any top 5 or ten HW in the world lists..) , so what does that leave… Just a bunch of guy’s who Fedor has already beat and who still actually have a shot or long shot at taking a UFC title down the line.
I don’t thionk Fedor is missing out on anything by not figting these chums, wait till some HW starts putting up GSP numbers and then I’ll want to see Fedor in the UFC (that is if Fedor is still putting up the perfect numbers he’s been doing for the last nine years) BTW Overeem is on a 2 year win streak ever since he but all that muscle and weight on his frame (and is now lesner size I think -at 6′5 and 250ish) , Rogers is bigger than Lesner, has a 10-0 record -with 9 true KO’s (not the TKO that the refs hand to brock just b/c he is rabbit punching
joke for those who cannot tell)
Overeem isn’t on a two year win streak he was blown apart by Kharitonov and lets take a look at that “win streak.”
Goodridge hasn’t won since ‘07 and is 43 years old.
Cro Cop was a NC.
Mark Hunt hasn’t won in 3 years.
Lee Tae-Hyun is 1-2.
Paul Buentello maybe the the best win on this streak… enough said…
Rogers is only taller than Lesnar, he’s not bigger trust me and other than Andrei “The Glass Man” Arlovski his best win is over James “Cauliflower” Thompson. The only heavyweight of note is Werdum and he is 3-3 in his last 6.
So if the UFC’s heavyweight division isn’t the best then whose is?
J0hn is wearing an Ushanka as we speak and cleaning his AK47. So dont worry about him much.
That was complete, total, and utter PWNZ0RATI0N.
easy Carls… they’ve changed over to the AK-103 and AK-107 years ago…
Besides my Kurtka is still on the back of my door so I can’t say anything about dressing in Russian clothes.
I like that word Dbiz.
Guys, you should all know by now that John is one of those Fedorians who sees things as they want them to be, instead of how they actually are.
It took me a couple of posts to suss that out, but once I did I figure there’s no harm in letting him sound off like he does.
After all, there is only so many times guys like this can watch and re-watch those old PRIDE DVDs and Fedor fights on youtube…
Not a 2 year win streak… His loss to Sergie was in 9/17/2007!!! It is 8/4/2009… I round the one month and couple days difference to 2 years lol
But I get your point that the competition is the problem with the two years: Yet my point is that if you actually wathc him fight you’ll notice he has matured into a pretty good fighter who is ready for the more serious competition now.
Rogers is taller and they cut to the same 265ish weight. Taller thus = bigger as the tie braker for reach. (Otherwise lashley is bigger b/c I’ve seen him wieght upto 265 and he is shorter than brock).
“So if the UFC’s heavyweight division isn’t the best then whose is?” Glad you asked! The UFC IS the best HW division BUT my point is that at this moment in time Having the best HW division is not saying much nor does that logically mean that the UFC has even a strong or proven HW division right now. Give some of the fighters 2-3 years and I’ll revise the staement for better or worse
but Fedor is not missing much not fighting for the UFC this coming year even though we’d all like to see it.
dbiz, you’re must be fedor’s ex wife hiding behind that little name posting arn’t you? Now I see all the where the pent up rage and anxiety against one fighter comes from. Don’t worry, the world will keep spinnin whether ppl consider fedor an okay fighter or not. When a legit site rates fedor below brock then I think what you have to say will gain some traction with me. I’m a realist so this could come this fall but honestly I don’t see either fedor or brock losing with the set-up matches the promo’s are throwing their way… (winner or cain and carwin – please, nog, mir, or randy could rip either of those two a new one they way they fight)
Lashley has weighed in around 255 for all of his MMA fights.
Look John the only reason you drew my ire there was for your first actual paragraph. Seems rather hypocritical to rip on the UFC guys for what they have done against “cans” when the very guys Fedor will face in Strikeforce have only faced cans lately. You can’t sit there and honestly rip on the UFC guys in an article about Fedor going to Strikeforce when there are only 3 heavyweights that people could name for a possible match-up.
Especially when every match-up there doesn’t show much of a different or intriguing challenge, Rogers has KO power but so has AA, Overeem has great technical striking but so did Cro Cop, and Werdum well honestly that fight will go to decision and be a stalemate the majority of the fight. The UFC presents more of a challenge due to the style of some of the guys. I could list the match-ups in the UFC that would present a new challenge but it’s A) pointless and B) it’d really lengthen this post.
Also believe me I get that Overeem has shown a lot of improvement, I’ve watched his fights. However, showing improvement against weak competition means about as much as beating a fighter that turns around and drops a fight to Ray Mercer. I still find it rather difficult to get the image of Overeem being absolutely battered by light heavyweights.
FYI taller does not equal longer reach, Lesnar and Rogers have the same reach at 81″. Lesnar also cuts from higher up to make 265.
John, what do you mean by a “legit site”?
great reply chris, well worded & nothing I cannot help but agree with there.
A legit site, I would say a site with no vested interests in any promotion, that have been well established over for a decent amount of time, is a professional site, and rates fighter with systematic updates. Something like that…
jcohl, I’m just showing two sides to every coin; there are plenty here to argue things from your viewpoint and thus other views run the risk of becoming inadvertently trampled or ppl becoming zealots unreasonably from not hearing other veiwpoints often enough… no harm in that eh. I would appriciate it if you back off the fanboy classifications as I don’t think we need to walk that path again and I’m not the one leading the way.
Scott Coker on tapout radio HT: BE
“- Fedor was the hottest free agent on the market
- We were bidding against 4 or 5 people (including UFC)
- I’m very lucky we have Fedor on board
- We are going to co-promote with M-1, M-1 doesn’t get 50% of Strikeforce, it’s just a revenue split of the event
- I’d like to see Brett Rogers, Fabricio Werdum and Alistair Overeem against Fedor
- We have an alliance with DREAM (Manhoef vs. Lawler or Aoki vs. Thomson)
- We’ll have an opponent named by a press conference on Thursday
- This will be the first time you see Fedor fight in a cage
- We are talking about having a card with the best of DREAM, K-1, M-1 and Strikeforce
“Although the deal with Strikeforce is an exclusive one, it’s far from a contract signed in blood as Fedor is currently contractually obligated to fight for Strikeforce for just one year.”
“Basically it’s three fights over the next year, and we’ll start in the Fall some time…The very first fight that Fedor fights will be on Showtime, and then the roll-out of television from there forward hasn’t been determined 100%, but his first fight will be on Showtime.”
“[Fedor] and Alistair Overeem should be an amazing fight, and people that haven’t seen Alistair, you know, he’s an amazing fighter.. I think we should do a couple of fights and build that one up, and then let their champion fight our champion, and let’s see what happens.”
“We’re hoping that Alistair will be ready to fight in the Fall, and we can put him on one of the cards with Fedor, and not fight against each other but fight against someone else, and let’s build that fight up.”
Interesting they will have him fight three times in a year. Glad they are waiting until Fall though, I want to see it soon as well but I’d rather see a fighter with a full camp against Fedor than one on two weeks.
Thanks for putting all that info together,, very informative, great summation.
I’ll believe Fedor is going to fight in a cage 3 times in a year when I see it.
No offense to fr702 and/or Scott Coker…lets just say I’m a skeptic and leave it at that…
but if he did who do you think they’ll toss his way?
My guess is Rogers, Werdrum (if he wins), and a hyped up conclusion vs the overrated Oevereem.
That finale would be fitting if, as you claim, Overeem is overrated.
It could be hyped as the battle for the title of “Most Overrated in a 2nd rate MMA org”…
I find it interesting that a one line comment about a particular fighter puts me on the ban list and makes all my comments required to be moderated when this whole thread is basically fighter bashing.
Not that I don’t agree that Fedor should be fighting in the UFC, should have let M-1 die and go for it.. but then again if you are 20% of a company you probably want to help it do well in hopes it will be around long after you are fighting.
I pay Dana White a LOT of money.. like I said before he should have swollowed his pride and put on a co-promoted event to bring us, the fans, what we all so clearly want aside form a few who don’t want to see Fedor fight in the UFC and everything put to rest.
Like I have said before the UFC HW div will never be 100% legit until it has Fedor and Fedor will never be 100% legit without the UFC.
Anyways.. good moderation.. I suppose we can fighter bash now? please let me know so I can let loose again on all the lame ass fighters given cans by the UFC in order to generate exciting personalities instead of exciting fighters.
Well VinZ I guess you are attempting to call Justin and Myself out, nice sarcasm… I won’t make the reason why you were put on moderation public because at this point perhaps the attention would be too much… I know for a fact that it wasn’t just “one comment” that put you on moderation, you aren’t on a “ban list” what so ever, and not fully being aware of your own situation (when you have been contacted about it) is rather interesting as well… So nice attempt at walking the line as usual, thank you for your sarcasm and I can’t wait for your response.
Vinz,
Were it one event, the UFC may have considered it but M-1 will stop at nothing short of co-promoting EVERY event Fedor fights. So unless you put him only on free cards from Europe, that’s a lot of money taken right out of the UFC’s pocket for no work on M-1’s part.
I don’t think it is a coincidence that M-1 puts on tiny, low cost cards while sinking those who try to do more through their “co-promotion” attempts. Bodog, AfflictionMMA/Wamma, and now Strikeforce…it isn’t looking too good for the other truly viable org in the US.
The good news is that Strikeforce can bail on this after a year, before M-1 has a chance to do too much damage (and they can do other shows because they actually have a few other fighters).
As for the rest of it…you’ve been a troll for a while, so I suspect it has more to do with you than your comments.
@ vinz_clortho
Maybe your comments are monitored because they are usually disrespectful, inflammatory, factually incorrect, occasionally nonsensical, and generally not worth the time to read?
Or is it just in the time since I started posting here?
I visited this site for about a year before I posted something, and not one time can I recall anything insightful, interesting, or beneficial to either the sport or the site being posted under your name. Maybe you want to change that, and start being part of the solution instead of part of the problem.
Just trying to help you figure things out…
As dbiz said, it was more than the one comment. You were on moderation well before that comment.