UFC Offer to Fedor Called “Very Good,” But Co-Promotion Issue Prevents Deal
Outside of the announcement that Fedor Emelianenko would headline EA Sport’s upcoming MMA video game, there was little news and few answers at today’s press conference in Anaheim, California featuring the top-ranked heavyweight and M-1 Global officials.
M-1 again denied an LA Times report that a deal to bring Fedor to the UFC was nearly complete, saying that negotiations were ongoing with both the UFC and Strikeforce among others.
An offer received on Tuesday from the UFC was called “very good,” but M-1’s insistence on co-promoting with the UFC remains a roadblock in the apparently stalled negotiations.
It appears at this time that it’s highly unlikely Fedor’s next fight will be inside the UFC Octagon, with his manager and M-1 owner Vadim Finkelchtein saying they could “very soon” announce a deal with another promotion.
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M-1 owner Vadim Finkelchtein , this is who is to blame for the best hw not being in the ufc not dana and zuffa not fedor….its exactly like dana and alexander emilienako said its fedors managment there to greedy and are holding fedor back…he needs to drop his managent team for a better managment team
look up my name for my comment on this situation
F Fink!!!!
totally agree with gunslinger
Is M-1 even remotely successful? I mean, why doesn’t Fedor sell his M-1 stock, get rid of his retarded management team, and join the UFC? He’d probably make a hell of a lot more money in the UFC than he would holding onto M-1 stock until the company goes bankrupt.
Per the Charmichael Dave show
“The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract. That’s 5 mil a fight
- The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot
- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor’s purse.
- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.
- The UFC also relented on allowing Fedor to compete in combat sambo.
Apparently, for good or bad, M-1 refuses to sign a deal unless the UFC agrees to co-promote.”
HT:Kid Nate of BE
I cannot say this loud enough if the above is true F~Finkledinkle
wow just simply wow I don’t even know where to begin
If they turn down this deal I hope Dana and the UFC say phuck you and move on. This deal is already ridiculously one-sided and meets all the demands M1 had before going into this negotiation. They (M1-Global) are trying to milk the cow for all it’s worth. UFC does not need Fedor. Sure it would be nice but M1 is asking way too much and just don’t have that much ground for such ridiculous demands. I am amazed at the offer above. If the above offer were true, I don’t see how they could refuse. Again, maybe they are just trying to get as much out of this as they can. If so, they are seriously pushing their luck. Wow, what a contract!
I know exactly where to begin, fr702.
At the end.
By which, I mean the end of Fedor having a mainstream MMA career.
After all of this di<king around, Finklestein should be told simply to have his man sign the contract as offered, or face a lifetime ban from the UFC. Fedor will be free to fight in whatever carnival will have him, and against whatever lame opponent his manager can find, but in no way, shape, or form will Fedor ever be in the UFC.
Period.
Co-promotion should be a make or break issue, and if Fedor chooses to make the issue break his opportunities in the UFC, thats his choice, or the choice of his manager.
If M-1 Global decides to try and make a go at promoting MMA events here in North America, it will wind up being cheaper for Zuffa to crush M-1 Global rather than ascede to Fedor's demands for co-promotion.
And far more satisfying for those of us who have had enough of this Fedor nonsense.
Fedor and his management can talk until they are blue in the face about this guy being the world's greatest MMA fighter, blahblahblah, but they'll be talking to so small a group after a UFC lifetime ban it simply won't matter.
Each year that goes by, Fedor will get older and pudgier and rustier fighting everyone BUT legitimate HW MMA competition, and I'm fine with that.
Either Fedor has no control of his affairs, or he really could care less about fighting in the UFC. Regardless, I have no patience or interest in seeing him in the Ocatgon at this point, or in hearing from a grown man with so little control or conviction in his own life as it relates to MMA.
The plain truth is, without Fedor the UFC has become the planet's premiere MMA organization. With or without Fedor the UFC is going to continue making insane amounts of money, to the tune this year alone of a quarter billion dollars. With or without Fedor, the UFC is going to be the standard bearer for MMA's 21st century expansion drive.
So the question remains, what exactly does Fedor bring to the table?
He certainly isn't marketable, given his unattractive physical appearance, lack of charisma, and non-existent English language skills. Only hardcore MMA fans regard Fedor so highly. The average fan in the super-valued 12-21 year old demographic considers Fedor some sort of urban legend, IF they know who he is at all.
And I would think that at least half of the 21-30 year olds know enough to not buy into Fedor's semi-retirement over the last 47 months as a legitimate MMA fighter, let alone champion.
Fedor comes with far more baggage than he is worth IMO, and his asking for 25% of promotional fees thru this totally made-up M-1 Global gimmick is laughable.
Fedor simply can't bring enough to the baragining table to justify a co-promotion scenario. He won't generate the PPV buys his manager says he will, unless he fight Brock Lesnar.
And thats because Lesnar is the draw here, not Fedor. As much as I hate to admit it, Dana White has turned Lesnar into a huge MMA draw, and Lesnar has certainly helped his case by beating Couture and Mir.
Who exactly has Fedor beaten that is supposed to motivate people who weren't already going to buy a UFC PPV to reach into their pockets and shell out an extra $50?
Even if there are some hardcore Fedor fans out there not supporting MMA by buying UFC PPV's, are we supposed to believe that there are enough of them to make it worth it to Zuffa to co-promote with Fedor's manager?
Seriously?
If the above contract offer is legitimate, I'm both embarrassed and enraged that Zuffa would offer so much money to a man who has done so little in recent MMA history to deserve it.
A 6 fight deal valued at $30 million dollars is simply ludicrous, PLUS M-1 Global, and thus Fedor, will get a cut of the PPV revenues?
Simply unreal.
I'm also disgusted that Fedor would be offered an immediate title shot. Anderson Silva wasn't offered an immediate title shot, and he has been far more relevent to MMA in the last 4 years than Fedor has.
If GSP isn't getting a $30 milion contract with PPV points, and he's ACTUALLY the best p4p MMA fighter on the planet, then why offer to pay that to the guy who's manager SAYS he's the best p4p fighter on the planet, but can never be bothered to prove it.
I could also care less if Sherdog or some other websites rate Fedor as number one.
WAMMA rated Fedor number one and look where it got them.
It's one thing to let Fedor wear whatever he wants on his shorts or walkout wear, or let him compete in SAMBO, or have his manager run some half-a$$ed MMA promotion in Russia or Japan or wherever, but treating Fedor and M-1 Global like equals sets a bad precedent.
Finally, its this cut and dried:
Fedor [and/or his manager] either lacks the MMA courage, MMA confidence, or the MMA conviction to sign a UFC contract and get back to work.
If Fedor wanted to come to the UFC he would have already done so. These "negotiations" are a joke, and Zuffa and all of us who buy into this thing are unfortunately the punchline.
The best thing at this point is for Fedor to simply go home,live his life, and have his manager stop asking us to believe that this guy is the world's greatest MMA fighter…
although it is dissappointing to me too; to say that fedor doesn’t deserve such a deal is stupid. if lesnar deserved the contract and overall deal he got without being proven as ****, then surely fedor deserves the above deal. the above situation, if true, only absolves dana white and the ufc of blame for why fedor isn’t in the ufc and the resulting f***up for mma fans worldwide. the blame rests with the idiots apy and finkledink and to a lesser extent fedor for not dropping the hammer and saying **** m-1 I will take a deal he deserves and should take. STUPID ****IN M-1!!!i don’t even like the ufc and hate lesnar(i count the days until someone like fedor rips him apart and exposes him for the mediocre piece of **** he is; take away his size,reach and weight and what is he-a better trained kevin randleman.
and carltr, just to be clear, I am NO supporter of Brock Lesnar, was and still am opposed to him being in the UFC, and despise the fact that he got the contract and opportunities he did without earning them in the cage.
Am I happy?
Absolutely not
But I’m learning to live with it, particularly encouraged by some of the frenZied.
And to be fair to Lesnar, he did beat Mir, so he should have some slack cut to him…
It is pretty clear that you do care if he fights in the UFC, considering you just wrote a book.
Seriously I say F Fedor and Finkyboy.
I hope Sherdog takes notice to him dodging legitimate opponents in the UFC and drops his ass in all eligible polls.
craig – if you think that post is lengthy by my standards, you haven’t read much of my stuff.
“A 6 fight deal valued at $30 million dollars is simply ludicrous, PLUS M-1 Global, and thus Fedor, will get a cut of the PPV revenues?
Simply unreal.” – jcohl
Amen to that.
Such a contract is unheard of… I’m not gonna doubt that it was offered but could you give a link or source b/c those are some pretty dumbfounding numbers in the MMA world. thanks.
Look, Dana has heard over and over “bring Fedor to the UFC”. He knew it wouldn’t be easy, so he tried to do what he could do. Fedor’s Managment team wouldn’t accept the past offers, so they made some extreme changes to accomadate their wishes so that it would happen. Dana knew that more money would help offset the Russian’s requirements, but he knew that just paying him more than the highest paid UFC fighter wouldn’t be enough, so he made an unreal offer at an attempt to make it happen. Co-promotion is not an option, so he did what he felt would help them overlook that. He caved on everything else, and proved that fighter salery isn’t even a concern. 30 million is unreal, but if there’s a chance to make this happen, then that’s what it takes. Cause isn’t that the point, GIVE THE FANS WHAT THEY WANT!
5 mil per fight is ten times what brock got for his last fight, if fedor won’t join ufc for that they should tell him and m-1 to f*** off.
Thats a great deal …….
If the only thing that is keeping Fedor from fighting for the UFC is co promotion then do it as a one time deal …Only instead of having it as a joint venture have it UFC VS M-1 . Take the best 7 guys available for the UFC and likewise for M-1 and have a showdown . The winner of the series gets Fedors contract for keeps . Obviously the UFC would have the advantage therefore taking Fedor into the UFC .
Just as long as this is all settled and we can get back TO SEEING THE FIGHTS AGAIN
Except that you couldn’t do it as a one off thing. He would be signing for six fights and M1 would demand to co-promote all six. Eff that. Oh yeah, and F-Finkledinkle.
your idea is cool yet at this point honestly my friend forget even trying just walk away (UFC)….. I never thought I would see the day where almost all of the MMA sites commentors are literally fed up with Fedor and/or M~1Global but defiantely the majority of the backlash is against Finkledinkle….
F~Finkledinkle
M-1 owner Vadim Finkelchtein is totaly using Fedor talk about your a sad state of affairs!
i feel sad that Fedor cant see that this guy is going to kill his career!
Finkledinkle actually works for Fedor, to my knowledge (ie what I’ve been told) Fedor is majority owner of M~1, yet Finkledinkle does all negotiations and Fedor allows him to do whatever he wants…
nevertheless, I can’t imagine ever turning down that contract, everything that M~1 wanted they got and they have the opportunity to promote M~1 Global as much as they want within the UFC just not going to to “Co~Promote” with M~1 GLobal… wow I still don’t know what to say about Finkledinkle turning down this contract
F~Finkledinkle
fr702 – you know as well as I do that Fedor [or Vadim] either lacks the confidence in his MMA game or the interest in fighting in the UFC, and THAT is why this deal isn’t getting done.
There is simply no other excuse when $30 million is on the table.
There’s a huge difference between being the baddest Japanese-style shoot fighter 5 years ago and stepping into the cage today with not only Brock Lesnar, but a Lesnar taking the time to learn catch-wrestling and the other intricacies of the sport.
Lord knows I have no love for the Vanilla Gorilla, but if Fedor steps into the cage with Lesnar two things are going to get shattered, Fedor’s mythic invincibility aura, and probably some of his ribs…
Why do they not just try and get his brother Aleksander Emelianenko hes not bad and still would bring the name Emelianenko to the ufc and hes a pretty good fighter aswell 15 and 3 and hes won his last 6 fights and hes got great ground skills he is a two-time Russian national SAMBO champion, and two-time world SAMBO champion, pluss heavy hands to 9 ko’s in hes career.. its not like he would not help out the ufc’s heavyweight division! and he would cost way cheaper! i would be excited to see him in the ufc its not fedor but its a good fighter non the less!
The rumor is Aleksander has Hepatitis therefore will not be licensed in the states. Again, this is just a rumor and has not been confirmed.
He is supposed to have hepititus (he claims not but they won’t let him fight in the US I think).
we can only hope a deal gets done!
What more do they want Come On 30 MILLION plus a cut of PPV sales man o man what more is needed from M~1 Global o ya they want to be a co~promoter of UFC events, REALLY um no not so much… get on.. Hey perhaps Friday Dana comes out and says we have come to terms but I’m not holding my breath… If that does happen July 31st will then become the craziest day in MMA HISTORY
Wouldn’t that be the craziest day in MMA history since last Friday, fr702?
In a sense I can understand why Fedor and/or his manager is trying to milk this one for all its worth.
If Fedor gets an immediate title shot, it will be his last bout as “the Russian Military Experiment”, or any of that other garbage the used to call him.
After doing some research by watching Fedor’s last few fights, and Lesnar handle Mir, I’m more convinced than ever that Lesnar is going to throw Fedor a beating that will finish his HW championship aspirations, as well as M-1 Global.
And I say this with you all knowing how I feel about Lesnar.
The truth is M-1 Global has one commodity, the supposedly unbeatable Fedor. After Fedor loses to Lesnar, where do they go from there?
Breaking it down, when Fedor fights Lesnar, he’s going to get smothered, run up into the cage, and hit harder than he ever has in his life. When he tries for submissions, as Mir did, he’s going to get “catch-wrestled” into a bad position, just like Mir did, and either stood up or take a pounding on the mat.
In the stand-up Lesnar has a huge reach advantage, and his Neanderthalic size and strength, combined with his college championship wrestling ability, is going to make it hard for Fedor to work some of his usual stuff.
Unless Fedor has been working to improve his circa-2004/5 game, and his Krispy Kreme physique, I don’t see him lasting 3 rounds with Lesnar, let alone winning the belt…
I agree with you there jcohl… which is why I think the UFC should offer very little money and just do a 1-fight co-promo with fedor (with an additional fight option for the UFC if Fedor wins). That could be a nice pay day and break M-1 (within 6 months of breaking Affliction)… I just think the UFC is not as confident in Fedor’s possible washed up plausibility as you are.
I’d watch fedor/lesner but I don’t think I could put money on it.
man i agree with gunslinger…just think if there was a brock vs fedor…it would be crazy..i personally would want to see brock with more exp. b4 fighting fedor…but i dont know man..hey good news is Mir said he came up with a bad game plan against brock and Mir wants to get stronger and gain 30lbs…and mir said he wants to teach brock how a winner acts…but lol mir wil just lose again..bc 30lbs is not wut killed u…brocks wrestling and ground game killed u..brock showed excellent control on the ground..would like to see mir vs brock 3 tho….go brock
no no not due to hepititus its because he had U.S. work permit problems due to his criminal record for robbery when he was younger!
I gotta head out for awhile, but I have one question
If M~1 Global is doing such a great job promoting MMA worldwide… Why hasn’t Fedor every headlined one of their shows? I do understand he has headlined a Affliction, M~1 Global, GoldenBoy, and Trump presents 2shows in a year that didn’t do pooooo in PPV sales… What has M~1 done for MMA? Unreal F~Finkledinkle
keep it real gents have a good one
It is b/c it is hard to fit him in with huge names like 46 yr old Don Frye and King Mo lol
do you how much money M-1 pulled in this year so far?
My prediction: Fedor fights Rogers from Strike force and Barnett in another state or out the the country.. if he wins both and brock defends his title it should be well into 2010. then the next video games will release with brock on one cover, fedor on the other. And the UFC will once again come knocking.
If Fedor loses a fight I think he’ll be stuck in strikeforce foe awhile and will fade away. If Brock is defeated then the UFC will either really want fedor as their new promo star OR more likely begin building up a new gem and forget about fedor all together.
I do think Fedor will be in the UFC soon though, he is just getting too much publicity for the UFC to allow him to be the one that got away.
That’s all from me for the next couple days, jcohl and I like to type novels
but I think am too washed up to continue till maybe next week. Its been fun.
Barnett will not fight anywhere in the US until his Cali suspension is over. If he fights outside the US, he is effectively banned from ever fighting here again. Each state’s athletic commission respects suspensions from the others.
It will be at least a year before Fedor fights Barnett.
Also, if you think the UFC will come knocking after THAT contract offer was turned down, I think you’re crazy. It’s been said a million times: Fedor needs the UFC more than the UFC needs Fedor. The best thing that could happen is that Fedor waits so long, he Shammy Shams himself and people realize just how overhyped he is.
Barnett was not suspended, his application for a license was rejected. It’s a but different than suspended. It just means he can’t apply for a license in CA for a year, not that he can’t fight for a year. How other states will treat that, I have no idea, and same for if he fights overseas. However, it is a different situation to Antonio Silva’s.
I was going to explain but looks like justin cleared it up first. There are some good article on this online I suggest you read to inform yourself (it is actually interesting stuff and good reading).
Barnett falls into a loop hole and being currently “unlicensed” CA cannot suspend or ban him. If you did the reseach you’d see that CA officials even stated that he could fight elsewhere as an option. Any other state could allow him to fight as soon as next month. If he passes the test in a year he’ll even be able to legally make an arguement to fight in CA again.
jchol…you are the man.
Well out sir.
Thanks, Cliff.
The kind words are much appreciated.
Just trying to do my part by keeping things grounded and at least a little close to reality, especially when $30 million contracts are being put out there and found unsatisfactory…
The co-promotion thing sounds like a smokescreen to me. I think M-1 knows that there’s no way in hell the ufc would agree to it so they keep throwing it in there as a deal breaker. At this point, it definitely isn’t a money thing. Like jchol, I went and watched a bunch of Fedor’s fights……he isn’t unbeatable. Like him or not, Brock is an entirely different animal than Fedor has ever faced. Fedor has faced big guys before; but not with the speed and power of Lesner. If Fedor was smart, he would lose the dough, cut to LHW and make a run there.
I like your opinion on the LHW move for Fedor ..I think he can get and hold that belt easy ,but I’m afriad he has the same opinion as Crocop “I want to stay at Heavy Weight”
The only way Fedor is ever going to move down to 205 is if someone throws him a beating at HW.
In order for that to happen, he has to actually, y’know, fight a HW capable of beating him, and aside from Josh Barnett those guys are in the UFC, so you can see where this is going…
I’d just like to start out by saying I respect Fedor the fighter, but question the business side of him. Fedor’s history is amazing ,but his history can became as big as his pocket’s with 30 million in them ,if he comes to the UFC takes out all the Heavy weights and retires undefeated {that cut loss is not a loss in my books}
What a deal Fedor is being offered unbelieveable!! Well no one will ever give the UFC $h!t again for not offering Fedor a real offer.
I have to say I don’t think Fedor can get this kind of offer off of Strikeforce or Dream or Sengoku or K-1… For one, even if either of them can match the 5 million per fight which I don’t think they can or well and they give Fedor the Co-promotion and the same percentage of PPV’s. UFC’s PPV’s are way higher so it means less money in percentage and less PPV’s means less people see the co-promotion.
If Fedor was thinking smart he’d take the UFC’s deal and put a big bander behind him saying M-1 and wear a M-1 shirt / shorts ……
Maybe M-1 should ask to sponser the UFC and get there name in printed into the octagon like Tapout… Is this about promoting M-1 or just the greed of there management. All this advertizement of M-1 behind Fedor each fight may even be better publicity for M-1 then a Co-promotion with any of the other MMA organization.
“jcohl” I have the agree with you. If Fedor turns down this offer take it off the table for good and give him a lifetime ban this way there’s no more messing around.
A loss is a loss. It doesn’t matter if it is by cut, by injury, by submission, or by (t)KO. Anyone who claims Fedor is undefeated is unable to understand simple things like “MMA records.”
Oh sure, because it’s Fedor a cut isn’t a loss. Except that it is. Please stop this “Fedor is undefeated because cuts don’t count” crap.
dbiz, only Fedor’s fanboys consider him “undefeated”.
The majority of MMA fans realize he has a loss, and more and more MMA fans are seeing that either Fedor or his manager isn’t really wanting to fight in the UFC, for all the reasons previously posted…
its wasn’t a loss, the cut was from a elbow, that’s against the rules of the match he was in, all and all he should of WON not LOST cuz of that. hes undefeated, but not by rec
It’s still a loss, Taint Taster. Loss = loss, no matter what.
Ok dbiz so your telling me a “loss is a loss”. So a cut loss is the same as a TKO/KO or submission or decision loss is it??
Was never over powered and TKO/KO.
Was never out classed on the ground and had to tap to a submission.
Was never beaten in the majority of the rounds of a fight to lose a decision.
This is what matters to me when it comes to a loss ,if you want to add cuts to this list its your opinion and you have a right to it as a mma fan.
It’s still a loss. That isn’t so hard to figure out. You said he was undefeated, I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt otherwise. Anything more is you covering a blemish on a record with one of those “natural” looking bandaids and hoping no one notices the color doesn’t match the skin tone.
He lost. Period. End of story.
I am so F**KING annoyed at this whole situation now. What has M1 Global ever done, NOTHING, arguably the best p4p fighter in the world (not my opinion) could have the chance to create the greatest legacy of any mma fighter ever by signing this ridiculous money deal and may i just say hats off to UFC, DANA and ZUFFA for offering such an amazing deal, we all no what Dana White is like but he has once again backed up his talk gave them a deal which is unbelievable and yet a nobody executive of a nobody surposed mma organisation now wants more, it is absolutely outrageous.
that HE should have grown some balls and done what was best for his career not what is best for the joke organisation is worth nothing and that is called M1 Global.
I dont want Fedor in the UFC now it has become a joke and i hope him and his management team realise in a few months when he fights Brett Rogers in Strikeforce for less money, less paper view sales against a lesser opponent in a mma organisation that is just starting to find its feet that to my knowledge is only American bassed not like the UFC where it is in mexico, germany and all over the world including England
PS: I am being serious when i say is F~Finkledinkle the worst management executive of any organisation or representative you or i have ever heard or seen. I cant think of anyone who is oviously not a fan or have any love for the organisation or fighter he represents, he is asking OUTRAGEOUS demands even his advisors and FEDOR for that matter must see this is rediculous and this man is SERIOUSLY damaging Fedors legacy and name.
I wonder if this has anything to do with Randleman dropping Fedor on his head? It appears he can’t think for himself anymore.
Nice. Funniest comment ive read all day.
Co-Promotion only benefits M-1 global. The UFC needs to move on. Enough talk about Fedor! Based on the deal above if he was the best pound for pound fighter he would sign the deal. In my opinion Fedor is no longer one of the best pound for pound fighters. If he lets his managment run his career the way they are running it he could never be considered the best pound for pound fighter because they are holding him back from fighting the best fighters. His management needs realize that this is not boxing.
Agreed with Jcohl—–UFC has done well without Fedor, and look at the worst case for FEDOR. He comes here and looses to Brock, his next fight is rumored to be COUTURE and what if he lost to randy, then what is that a sign that fedor is ending, by keeping him in M1 he gets to fight up and comers, although IMO Arlovski could of had him(Ok maybe cause I am a big fan) haha,if he didn’t get stupid, Fedor is a smart Fighter and he picked a WTF Flying knee I dont think I ever saw Arlovski throw that haha
I have a very hard time believing that the $30M for six fights was really offered. I am not purposely challenging some of these sources, but over the past week, reliable data has become almost nonexistent (I am referring to outside sources, not this website.) But that is aside from my main concern.
More importantly, this reminds me of all the speculation back when A-Rod was negotiating his monstrous deal. The numbers were getting so big that several GM’s were tinkering with the idea of not only offering him a monster contract, but also a stake in the team’s revenue sharing. It was unprecedented at the time and drew controversy amidst the inner circles of baseball because it seemed no one player should be that big. Well this whole melee with Fedor and his henchmen has even gone one step further outside those same boundaries. This whole co-promotion garbage is just like if A-rod would have said he wanted a big contract, some kickbacks from the team’s revenue stream, PLUS a cut of Major League Baseball’s revenue as well. I don’t think so. NO player is that big and no fighter is that big either. Especially one who has never fought inside the UFC or has fought anybody worthwhile since the Carter administration.
Before this garbage, I could at least tolerate Fedor and everything associated with him to some extent. I didn’t like him and I thought he was highly overrated, but at least I could tolerate his subject. But now I can’t stand it anymore. He is not a competitor. He is not a champion. He is a swindling, greedy business man posing as a fighter. And he has actually fooled some people along the way too.
Jerod I get what you mean by “wait and see” especially with what has transpired over the last week…. The Carmichael Dave show is pretty reliable, BloodyElbow is realiable, the Potato and Linker all have the same story up, its not Like I got this sh!t from mmabay or something ridiculous like that ya know..
yeah I definately wasn’t calling you out or anything like that. Just lately we have been hearing a lot of wild stuff. (I heard the winner AND THE LOSER of the Swick/Kampmann fight gets to fight GSP. AT THE SAME TIME.)
Not only is the $30 million almost unbelievable, but 6 fights all for $5M apiece is also very suspicious, uless the contract is heavily frontloaded.
Think about it, because once Fedore comes in and loses, the Fedor allure dies. Instantly. Period. But now Dana has to give this a-hole, who is now perceived to be a joke, $5M per fight for 5 more fights. ugly situation.
I know this assumes he loses to Brock, which is a wild assumption, but I would put my money on Brock. Just my opinion though and I do NOT intend on starting that debate right here right now. Totally not the place.
You can always FIRE an employee that isn’t performing, ya know… and why you might ask to offer Fedor that kind of scratch, well the UFC would be making quite a bit of money off of Fedor too, its not a loss what so ever, If he comes in and loses well you have the story line of can the great Emperor rebound or who can take out Brock blah blalh.. Or cut the man, hey look you weren’t worth the headache go on get….. Chuck makes alot of of money when he fights (in the millions) so the 5 million isn’t suprise to me personally it is the 6 fight deal that is weird, but hey whatever….
*sidenote, someone said that it was crazy that Fedor was getting offered sooo much in comparison to what Brock made last fight… Well I believe that Brock made 400,000 dollars for his last fight which was reported for legal reasons, but mind you that because ZUFFA is a privately held corp that they only have to report the “base” salary of their employees, because I’m pretty sure that Lesnar made alot more than 400g’s for that fight
@fr702
thanks for making the base salary versus total payout point again.
I’ve tried to do this several times, unsuccessfully.
I’ve also tried explaining that even though Frank Mir’s base salary was 45k for the Lesnar fight, that wasn’t all the paper he saw off of that bout.
It is not fink that is holding fedor back, it is the greed of dana white. M1 is partically owned by fedor, so why wouldnt he want to see additional money from his fights. he should get a small percentage of what the ppv renvenue. if you were in fedor shoes you would want that money as well.
not sure what your definition of greed is smitty, but $30 mil, a cut of ppv, an immediate title bout, and freedom to compete in sambo to any single fighter seems like a pretty generous deal to me. its the greed of finkleprick thats holding MMA back.
well 30million for 150 minutes max of fighting time approx 72weeks of training is rather good imo, o and he was offered a PPV cut, and the freedom to compete in Sambo (remember the original deal breaker, if the UFC got rid of that clause Fedor would fight for the UFC, so they did and well not so much now)
you seemed hungry so I offered you a plate of my famous opinon’s
And smitty, if you took the time to do your research, you’ll see that Fedor has already been offered a cut of PPV money.
Fedor has been offered the most ridiculously undeserved contract in UFC history, at least since Brock Lesnar’s, and he still isn’t satisfied.
Calling Dana White greedy because Fedor flips off a $30 million dollar contract is like saying the fire department is trespassing when they bomb thru your door to put out a fire and save your life…
WOW. I had typed earlier about a comment I thought was funny Jcohl, but man that was good. Props bud. And ya smitty is a little lost.
wow! to not accept a deal as such is simply ludicrous. he didnt make that much money when he was with affliction! not even close to that, and this sounds like a great deal for M1 global as well, and in turn Fedor. From what the article said is that the UFC Brass is making so many acceptions just to get him. i mean, allowing him compete in SAMBO? who has had that kind of freedom under UFC contract? He needs to sh!t or get off the pot, and start fighting for the best organization in the world. no one is worth $30 mil to Dana, Fedor. No one.
i never herd him say he wants to be the best fighter, or that he wants to fight the best fighters! the only thing close to that that i heard was after Barnett got busted he said he’ll fight anyone they(affliction) puts (can get) in front him!
the only other fighter that i have heard of doing something like this is Tito! its not about the 1st class competition he will have to face, its the money he’s not gunna get! so he can ride the “wave” of his success as long as he can, and just say that they don’t want to pay him enough! but with Tito he wanted to make the same money from whatever MMA org. he was fighting for. how much did affliction pay him i wonder?
Fedor will loss, just like Tito! IMO
I never herd him say he wants to be the best fighter, or that he wants to fight the best fighters! Well see Fedor speaks russian so its kind of hard for him to say all those english word. =P
if the offer that FR put up was true, then i share jcohl’s thoughts. i am disgusted that the UFC would make such an offer to fedor. you know the 1 guy that deserves that offer, if not better in the UFC…GSP. outside of gsp imo noone does at this moment.
WTF is holding finkle back? does he want that arena buitl in russia as well, does he want G-5 planes for each of fedor’s entourage? WTF dude, 5 mil a fight when your fighter has done NOTHING in the past 2 and a half years. oh wait im sorry, fedor destroyed AA and Timmy, former UFC hw champs. yea they were champs when the UFC hw division was uber weak. im shocked that dana and co. would go to this level and basically bend over backwards for fedor.
i like the idea of a one fight deal with fedor. give him the title shot against brock. [he doesnt deserve it imo] let brock expose fedor as being beatable. do i think brock is more talented then fedor? no i dont, but brock uses his size to smother more talented fighters. he will do the same to fedor.
i am literraly[sp] shocked that the offer that fr posted was made to fedor.
I just brought you what I have become aware of, There is a pressor tomorrow and Dana will no doubt inform people of the UFC’s situation with M~1 Global… But if this offer is true wow just wow….
fedor deserves that deal…i dont care how much the deal is for …everyone wants fedor in the ufc…..and if m1 global ruins fedors coming to the ufc for me there will be revenge m1 global there will be revenge
Gunslinger, I hate to seem like I’m blasting you, but there is simply no way in He!! that Fedor “deserves” a $30 million dollar contract, plus a cut of PPV, plus all the other stipulations Zuffa is offering, assuming the numbers have been accurately reported to fr702 and the rest of us.
Fedor might have been a very large shoot-fighting fish in a relatively speaking small Japanese pond 5 years ago, but he hasn’t done anything since then to justify backing up a flatbed loaded with folding green to his house in Bolgorod.
This is a guy who hasn’t stepped into the cage, or taken a tough fight in 4+ years.
This is also a guy who ducked Randy Couture when Zuffa bout PRIDE, and decided to fight sideshow freaks and MWs. When he got called on that, he moved onto UFC castoffs, and then finally Josh Barnett, in a fight many thought would never happen, and were ultimately proved right.
His lack of charisma, English skills, and personal attractiveness make him all but unmarketable to the mainstream MMA audience, and its not like he’s going to add THAT many more PPV buys or tickets sales. The people who are buying in are already buying in, if you follow.
It’s not like there is this vast horde of Fedor supporters not buying into the UFC. I’m sure there are some, but not enough to make it worth it to Zuffa to pay Fedor $30 million plus.
And Gunslinger, not “everyone wants Fedor in the UFC”.
Personally I would prefer that Fedor and his traveling roadshow of business-school dropouts and jock-sniffers leave LA, and return to Russia, or Japan, or wherever the he!! else they want to go, and leave legitimate modern-day MMA promoting to the UFC, or Strikeforce, or someone actually willing to step into the cage and fight, instead of holding pressers and releasing statements and making a mockery of the entire affair.
I have said in the past that if Fedor wants to market himself as the best MMA fighter alive, he needs to prove that periodically, and against appropriate level competition, and not Ray Mercer’s latest KO victim Tim Sylvia.
Proving that means fighting in the UFC, period.
The man’s actions speak louder than any words I post, or anyone else posts for that matter.
Sorry again if it seems like I’m blasting you Gun, I’m just trying to keep this Fedor thing in perspective and separate the fact from the fiction…
Jcohl, you appear to hate brock, you appear to hate fedor – So tell me who your top, awesome HW Champ is (who has earned such and fights/wins against top level compition recently, is not slowing down and not untested meaning just a few fights) – tell me who that is, who is still at the top of their game the best in the biz, infact give me three names and Watch them get torn apart easier than you go after fedor. It’s easy to poke at a fighter but tougher to validly present anyone WAY better than fedor/brock.
If you don’t have anyone resoundingly better then cut these current “champs” some slack, please. Atleast until they lose again.
@John – I have cut Brock Lesnar a lot of slack since UFC 100.
If you go back and read my posts before and after 100 on the matter of Lesnar, you’ll see that I begrudgingly gave the man the credit he deserved, publicly apologized to Justin over in the forum area for being mistaken about Lesnar learning catch-wrestling, and have remained silent for the most part on Lesnar until he fights again, other than to say that I think as much as I dislike Lesnar’s poor sportsmanship and disrespectful disposition, I think he would beat Fedor, and badly, if Fedor steps into the Octagon with the same 2004 shoot-fighting skillset he was rocking in PRIDE, and an obvious lack of physical conditioning.
As for Fedor, his situation has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. dbiz said it best when he posted that Fedor is a paper champion, and his WAMMA belt was “made-up”.
Either Fedor, or his manager, or both, lack a certain amount of negotiating credibility at this point, wouldn’t you say?
And as for other HW’s, I’d say the sport is currently re-loading its HW ranks. Several years ago you had Fedor, along with Couture and a few other standouts, and the rest were basically average.
Now you have a young crop of HWs starting to come into their own, led primarily by Brock Lesnar in the UFC and Alistair Overeem in Strikeforce.
If you’re asking me who I think is a standout HW right now, I’d have to say that there isn’t one really. Fedor has been inactive for 4 years, Couture is aging and BigNog is past his fighting prime, men like Coleman and Randleman have seen the sport pass them by, and/or have dropped to LHW, and men like Arlovski have revealed themselves to have neither the talent or the heart for MMA.
Josh Barnett remains a question mark due to his issues of inactivity and failed PED screening, and Werdum will get his chance against Overeem in a few weeks.
Finally, John, Brock Lesnar has already declared himself, “The Next Big Thing”, and bigchris 2328 has already declared Shane Carwin, “The Next Bigger Thing”, so we’ll all have to wait and see how the HW ranks sort themselves out in both the UFC and Strikeforce, as well as seeing if Fedor plans to re-join the sport either this year or next, before declaring a new HW king…
Dam-n you M-1!!!! and could fedor not accept that deal.
I have no problem with the apparent deal the UFC is offering Fedor because it will just bring up everyone else’s salary.
However, Finkledink is a complete douche bag. Where the hell is he going to see $30 mil offered to Fedor? No where, that’s were.
I really would like to see Fedor give his management team the big FU, but I’m not sure it would be so easy. Taking PRIDE as the example, perhaps MMA in Russia is equally tied to the mob. Hate to sterotype wealthy Russians, but typically those in the former communist nation who survived the transition into “capitalism” were involved in at least some illicit activities. What I’m trying to say here is that Fedor is most certainly, through no fault, involved with the Russian mob. And once you’re in, you’re not getting out.
It’s official – Fedor will NEVER step foot inside of a UFC Octagon. I’m sick of hearing about this schmuck and his management team.
Maybe he can go stir the abominable snowman from his cave on New Year’s Eve in Japan then put him in an armbar and still be considered the worlds best fighter.
What a joke.
The UFC doesnt want to sign Fedor and its buisness and this is why
If the UFC sign Fedor its gonna cost them alot alot money which they would make back from PPV sales for events he would feature in namely a match with Brock.
so lets take a look at this from a buisness point of view say he beats Brock there are no other ligitamate matchs for Fedor in the UFC so the UFC would find it hard to make money off Fedor for the remainder of his contract.
If Brock beats Fedor same thing happens again no more money to make off Fedor and if you think about it what match ups can the ufc put him in remembering that one big pay day wont make the UFC enough money to cover the cost of getting Fedor and the UFC HW ranks aint exactly stacked at the moment so the UFC would have to sign more HW and spend more money premoting other HW to make money from there match ups with Fedor.THis is how I see things going
Fedor fights Alistar Overeem on New years eve in Japan and gets paid more than his entire UFC contract for that one fight .
Win or lose Overeem signs with UFC shortly there after and Fedor goes on to fight Josh Barnett probably New years Eve the year after and we see Fedor maybe once or twice more after that and thats it he silently retires.
The Ufc goes on as before and every UFC fan for years to come says “Fedor was over rated coz Dana said so” and the rest of the planets mma fans and MMA experts still call him the greatest HW ever and possibly the greatest mma fighter of all time.
The UFC probably has a show / win in fedors contact 3million to show 2million to win so if Lesnar wins UFC keeps 2million and if Lesnar wins it blows up his name as well … then its Couture vs Fedor its a big PPV draw plus the ufc can cut him at anytime .. and the other 4 fights maybe a fight vs Cain/Carwin or maybe a superfight with Machida or Anderson Silva and a fight with Mir not bad ppv buys off of these events.
People, I’m sure those terms offered to Fedor are based on whether he wins and how many PPV buys they get, etc. The UFC is not going to just give this guy 5mil per fight for 6 fights. If Fedor were to lose his first couple of fights in the UFC, then they’d be stuck paying him millions of dollars even after his reputation is shattered.
Regardless, it’s still a great offer, better than most if not all UFC fighters have gotten. Truth is, M-1’s claims they want to co-promote should be a clear enough sign that this deal is just NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Fedor could give two sh*its about his legacy; this whole ordeal proves that. The best thing the UFC can do is tell this guy to get lost and go drive Strikeforce out of business, like he’s done before with other organizations.
As for being the greatest mma fighter out there, that is very debatable. He hasn’t beaten a true heavyweight contender in his last 7 fights (AA and Sylvia were past their prime, as their last brutal losses proved). There are a handful of HW in the UFC who could reasonably hand Fedor his first loss. Maybe not, but if he doesn’t fight them, then he can’t claim to be the best, imo. Regardless, the UFC just needs to move on. Bring in Belfort, maybe a couple of other HW out there to deepen the pool, and let Fedor keep fighting subpar competition until he looses or retires with a record filled with questionable opponents.
Unbelievable. I agree with jcohl. This is ridiculous. The UFC’s offer is more than M-1 and Fedor even deserve. As it has been said, the UFC does not need Fedor. Never again should the UFC make such an offer. after all this bs I’m anxious to see Fedor lose and if he does fight in Strikeforce I sure hope its Brett “Grim” Rogers who does the job!!
A-men brother
Nice avatar petterson.
As too the above get with it guys.
The UFC is the biggest premotion in north america and thats all the global MMA market is worth billions of dollars every year and the UFC has the samllest portion of that market.
To put it in perspective for you guys Pride did two PPV which were simply interviews and highlights of Fedor and then another of Wanderlie Silva and both of these PPV sold more than the UFC sold PPV for UFC 100 and thse PPV were shown on thursday nights in Japan.
K-1 events in Japan are held in 60-80 thousand seater venues and sell out the UFC is lucky to pack 20 – 30 thousand into most of there events .
The UFC is big in only one area of the world there are bigger premotions out there and as described above if Fedor gets paid more to fight a gorrilla in Japan on New years Eve is that his fault or the UFC`s.
Fedor is the best fighter alive today and just look at how many MMA experts outside the UFC agree , Dana and the UFC say he is over rated and every other expert on the planet says he is the best ever.
So Joe Rogan , Big John Mc Carthy ,Pat Militiech, Randy Couture,Bas Rutten would all be wrong then and Danna Would be right obviously and the above list is only made up of guys thats UFC fans would recognise.
Fedor just destroyed two former UFC champions in less time than it takes to make a cup of coffe , Tim sylvia was acording to Danna white before his fight with Randy one of the best HW ever to set foot inside the octagon and with his size and reach advantge give any HW major problems.
Fedor – 0:36 or raound 1 by sub RKC
Arlovski was considered by Danna white and I quote the most athletic MMA fighter in any wieght class of the UFC with speed and acuracie second to none
Fedor – no time needed just see the clip one right hand and it ended and ended bad for Arlovski
most ufc fans are to under educated about about the global MMA world and I would think they would have learned form ANderson Sylva and what team UK did to team US on the ultimate fighter also why dont they ever look at how many champions they have from outside the US.
MMA is world wide guys and the UFC is just a little piece of it not all the worlds best fighters want to sign contracts with so many restrictions that are UFC only restrictions.
By the way the above contract terms are BS as an MMA manager I would turn down those terms flat no discussion the 5 Million sounds great but its only 1 per fight when FEdor can easily generate more than that per fight in Japan and there are two stumbling blocks left for teh UFC not one
M-1 global co-premotions is a must
THE rights to Fedors image , LIkeness and Name
the second is a big one for the UFC because its like this they pay Forest Griffin his contract to fight all interviews and fight premotions are included as standard .
Forest gets on the cover of a magazine UFC gets payed Forest Doesnt and so on
UFC is the only company world wide in MMA that has this stipulation in there contract and its is one of several that only appear in UFC contracts that strongle lean teh power over your fighter to teh UFC and not teh fighter or his managment team.
Ufc contracts are contructed to help them maintain control over the ufc brand and its fighters and for years when they were trying to build the company that was really important but now they are just standing alone in a sea of other promtions which globally are doing much better than the UFC .
But Rogers finished AA three times faster than Fedor did, and Mercer finished Sylvia four times faster than Fedor did. So clearly those two are better than him. Using your logic of speed in victory equaling quality of fighter.
Using Pride in these discussions is a straw man because….Pride failed. Miserably. And the UFC bought them with the change in Dana White’s couch cushions. So who is bigger in MMA than the UFC? Dream? M-1? Nope and nope. That isn’t to say each doesn’t get some good fighters because they clearly do, but it is equally clear that those fighters are there for personal reasons.
Fedor may have been the greatest at one point, but fighting K1 guys in MMA rules doesn’t keep him there. Fighting has-beens, never-weres, and freakshow bouts for the last 4 years has tarnished his legacy and his reputation.
He has a chance to face new fighters, unlike any he has faced before. And he is refusing. Whether it’s for business reasons or others, it’s still not the actions of a fighting champion. So, while you dangle from his short-n-curlies, I’ll stand over here pointing out that his recent opponents don’t even support a claim of him being the best fighter under the M-1 umbrella (HELLO MOUSASI!).
Now dbiz, you know how you upset Fedor’s supporters when you bring up stuff like facts and the truth and other inconveniences that fly in the face of their blinding “Cult of Fedor” mythology…
Man you boys are in full spirits tonight. Im lovin this.
Immortal, there are so many inaccuracies in your posts, I honestly don’t know where to begin. You seem to almost blend opinion with rumor and circumstance and present it as fact.
I don’t say this as an attack, it’s just my way of trying to qualify sentences like, “the UFC doesn’t want to sign Fedor” when compared with the $30 million dollar offer they dropped on the bargaining table.
Or when you “quote” Dana White about how he regarded Andrei Arlovski.
Trust me, if Dana wnated and/or liked AA, he would have kept him, and not waved him off as he headed into a pair of embarrassing losses to Fedor and Brett Rogers.
Or when you say that the UFC is “just a little piece” of MMA.
Really?
As opposed to what, those sideshows the Yakuza put on over in Japan?
If PRIDE was so wonderful, they wouldn’t have been swallowed by the UFC without so much as a hiccup.
If PRIDE’s talent level was so much higher than the UFC’s, their fighter would be doing better than they are.
Please, spare us the anti-UFC rhetoric. It’s old, and invalid, and irrelevent.
Seriously Immortal, it sounds like you have a passion for the sport, and I hate that this is going to come off as a personal attack, which I don’t mean it to be, but I’d seriously suggest you do your research before posting here on a matter this complex.
As I’ve posted before, mmafrenzy is a big boy site, and not a fan boy site…
You did your homework Immortal, Great job & sound logic!
Nothing you can do to a closed minds though… ppl assume all the ‘experts’, Organization polls, & actual fighters proclaiming fedor the best are wrong yet they know ‘better’. How can you persuade such vanity? Why bother.
Fedor’s been ducking hard fights since 2006. When his “marquee” wins since then lost in a combined 31 seconds to lower-caliber fighters, it really takes the shine off those wins.
But there’s hope. He CAN out-grapple a lightweight…
If Strikeforce thinks they can make a deal with Fedor, and M-1 Global, that they can live with and not bankrupt themselves upon, then they should go for it.
The UFC should present Fedor with 2 options, either take their final offer or be banned for life from the UFC. If Strikeforce is smart about things, they should also freeze out Fedor, and it will ultimately benefit them next year when Fedor comes looking for work after yet another suck-tacular main event fight against a wholly underwhelming opponent.
EVERYONE PLEASE NEEDS TO REMEMBER THAT M-1 GLOBAL ISN’T ACTUALLY AN MMA ORGANIZATION…IT IS BASICALLY FEDOR’S MANAGER PROMOTING A HALF-A$$ED FIGHT CARD OFF OF THE MMA RADAR AND USING FEDOR’S MONEY FOR THE UNDERWRITING.
I honestly think that people forget that sometimes in all of the static and posting.
If Strikeforce plays their cards right, they can probably get a Fedor-Barnett fight by this time next year for a better overall price then they will this year.
You would think Fedor has had enough time over the last 4+ years to contemplate and comprehend his declining relevence in MMA, but obviously not.
Let him sit another year out of the spotlight, let him fight in Saitama or wherever against a guy with 3 arms or Ken Shamrock or whoever Fedor’s manager can dig up and sign to take a beating from the Last Pudgy Emperor, and then let him test the market in mid-2010 and see if anything remotely close to 30 extra large is out there for him…
I agree with your 2 options that you suggest the UFC to go with. They have already bent over backwards to try and sign Fedor, enough is enough. Sign or never fight for the UFC.
On another point, M~1 is a MMA promotion, right? I mean, they do put on M~1 Global Challenge (as seen on HDNet
)
Maybe I am being uncharitable to M-1 Global, not in terms of Fedor and his manager but the men fighting under their banner.
My apologies to those men and their supporters.
Your point is a fair one, EtherBunny, but in response, not to you but to Fedor and his supporters, I would say fine, if M-1 Global is a “real” MMA promotion, then Fedor should go fight for them, and stop di<king around with the MMA community…
I agree with what you say the UFC should do, your right. (but don’t let it go to your head
lol
I would like to see fedor fight in the UFC like say 5 years ago…I been saying and will continue to say he is not the same fighter he was in pride. He is getting fat and hasnt fought ANYONE worth a shi* in the HW class in ages. I don’t ride lesnar’s di** or nothin but I honestly do not think Fedor would stand a chance in hell against him …. Lesnar is the real deal…he is huge & can fight period…stop hatin on the guy for bein a WWE wrestler…who cares? He is doing what Bob sapp only dreams he could do…Bob Sapp was a giant but couldnt fight & was a very big JOKE & did someone compare Brock to Randleman??? Really? He has HARDLY done anything in the UFC…he had his time which was very short…look at his muscles ohhhhhhhh he just got KTFO! Anyway…screw Fedor…prove you are a true fighter and put the money aside & fight the best of the best!!!! since you are “the greatest”….doubt it…you had your time now prove you still have it & fight REAL fighters…..I wanna see Cro-Cop vs Fedor in the UFC…another rematch ftw!!! Go Cro-Cop!!
This is the biggest BS I have ever seen.
I understand you are upset as I am. I also want Fedor fight in UFC. In my opinion there are only 3 fighters worth fighting Fedor outside UFC at the moment. Barnett, Overeem and Rogers. Barnett out for a year. But telling he is getting fat is stupid. he used to be even fatter than now., He has actually slimmed a little.
The way he fihghts now is obviously a wiser now. He is trying to reduce his chances of being hurt. tell this to Anderson Silva. He is doing same thing. It is him not you who is putting his body and health at risk. He is, in my and many other people, a great fighter. However, i absolutely hate his management. That Finkeducle is a piece of crap who puts his own interests ahead of Fedor’s and his fans. I believe UFC is a way to go for Fedor and I hate him wasting his time and energy on lesser fighters and in freak shows.
As UFC I would never accept any co-promotional **** from M-1. M-1 has only Fedor and they are building their business around him. It is pretty stupid. Fedor is a great fighter but everyone can lose. He is 32 anbd gota think about his future and his family. It is the time to finally bank on that hard work he put into his MMA career and such pricks as Finki are standing between him and his wealthy retirement. F*ck Finki. Fedor should choose another management. it is a problem that Fedenka doe sanot read or speak any other languages other than Russian. Had he read he would know that what he is doing is stupid and he gotta rely on his own thinking rather than trusting his and his family well being to guys like Finki.
As covered in an earlier thread, part of the reason he looked leaner was the specific steroid that hewas using. it wasn’t necessarily the new training regimen or anything in the ring he was doing.
Perhaps Fedor has never had any real intentions of joining the UFC but rather has been using negotiating with them as just a ploy to generate publicity and financial momentum for his joining another organization like Dream.
DING DING DING.
That’s what I am starting to assume, except not really to promote himself but to promote M~1.
Jaymz – exactly what EtherBunny said.
This whole carnival with the UFC offering everything including Dana’s Ferrari and then Fedor saying, “mmmmm, Nyet!” is starting to look like a giant con, which will wrap up with Fedor’s manager Finkeldouchestein announcing that Fedor will fight someone at Breakthrough, and will fire up the M-1 Global hype machine.
Pathetic really that Zuffa is falling for this, but y’know.
Unless this is Zuffa’s way of telling M1 to either crap or get off the pot. With them offering everything except co-promotion and him turning it down, Zuffa ends up coming out looking better.
I dont think its Zuffa falling for it as much as it is Dana trying to do everything in his power to sign Fedor. Dana said from day1 that his goal is to get all the best fighters in the world to come together, and obvoiusly he is doing just that.
So if Fedor doesn’t sign with the UFC, who will he fight next? Ricco Rodriguez? Tank Abbot? Tim Sylvia again? Arlovski again? Seriously, M1 get it together! there is not a lot of talent out there for him to fight, besides the UFC is the biggest and hottest MMA company. Strike force…really?!
It’s sad but bedsides Brocks potential, there is honestly not that much talent left in the UFC either… Randy and Mir both do not have great records any more and are coming off pretty bad losses, Cro cop & nog are both ppl fedor beat in their prime multiple times, Carwin has not really been tested yet and might only be as good as some of the other upstart undefeateds outside the UFC (IE king mo, rogers, leshly etc), there are some LHW that might more up but comon…
I really don’t see anything that amazes me at HW in the UFC besides brocks potential. All the UFC could offer that fedor could not get else where is that they could likely land ANY new fighter that may give fedor/brock a challenge.
UFC might have a few for the top 10 HW but none of their HW make a top tem p4p list and certainly not multiples of them. The competition is just not that amazing outside fedor/brock and fighters that appear to be on the decline (cro cop, randy, nog, mir, gonzaga, etc)
Ha Ha Ha, got 2 words for ya – TUF 10
Fedor is only a top 10 p4p because you go top 10. He isn’t even close to top 3, and might barely crack top 5.
1. GSP
2. Miguel Torres
3. A. Silva
Fedor needs to fight good fighters if he wants to get back on that list (although I don’t think even a run through the UFC heavies will do it). Heavies are never at the top of a p4p list. There’s just too much of them.
P.s. Even Fedor’s little Love Squad at InsideMMA have 6 of the top ten heavies in the UFC.
co-promote – ie 50 percent gate – yeah right – no matter how good the UFC should stick to their guns so that they do not screw themselves in the future when other fighters come calling.
the sport is bigger than one fighter, especially fedor who may be a wee bit over-hyped and certainly believing his own PR just a tad too much methinks.
I do not think Fedor’s interests are high on his management agenda. they are playing their own little games. Fedor is 32, no one is unbeatable and it is time to bank on his hard work to ensure wealthy retirement. I think Fedor should drop Finki.
I think most of you guys are missing the point.
Sure, 30 million for 6 fight is a LOT of money, and the most offered to any MMA fighter by far, but Fedor is looking at the future, such as when he signed with the UFC for that 6 fights, and lost 5 of the 6 fights, then what? He is finished, and he knows that. If M1 can get 1/2 of the UFC business, and he is part owner of M1, then at least his pay days keep coming.
I think Fedor is a very smart person. Why? Because he was able to rake up that 30-1 record using much lesser fighters and a handful of ex-UFC champions that passed their prime and/or cannot compete against the better fighters coming into UFC. Fedor knows that when he steps into the UFC, he’ll be fighting the best, and everyone heavyweight in the UFC is drooling to kick his butt and expose this B.S. artist in front of everyone.