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	<title>Comments on: Dana White: We’ll Do Brock vs. Fedor and It&#8217;ll Be a Huge Fight</title>
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		<title>By: Maciek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maciek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brock is too emotional. Fedor has a lot more power than you could expect from his frame. If Fedor doesn&#039;t knock Brock out,he will find a way to submit him. It would be the greatest fight in MMA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brock is too emotional. Fedor has a lot more power than you could expect from his frame. If Fedor doesn&#8217;t knock Brock out,he will find a way to submit him. It would be the greatest fight in MMA.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful, dbiz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful, dbiz.</p>
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		<title>By: russiandoeboi</title>
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		<dc:creator>russiandoeboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually  i  jut  try  to  look at it by the   way fighters match up.
not  record by  record  or  whether they  beat  someone  who  beat their  upcoming  opponent. besides  sometimes  it&#039;s  just   not  your  nite. 

i&#039;ve  said  for  years  that barnett would be  a very tough  match  for  fedor. who  do i  want to  win - dunno - who  ever puts up the  best  fight  i guess.  even when a  fighter acts   disrespectful  i  still,  respect their  ability  to  win, by  saying  that  i  think  fedor  would  not  get  stuck under brock  like  mir  did i&#039;m nut  hugging.

ok,  have the  last   word  big  guy.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually  i  jut  try  to  look at it by the   way fighters match up.<br />
not  record by  record  or  whether they  beat  someone  who  beat their  upcoming  opponent. besides  sometimes  it&#8217;s  just   not  your  nite. </p>
<p>i&#8217;ve  said  for  years  that barnett would be  a very tough  match  for  fedor. who  do i  want to  win &#8211; dunno &#8211; who  ever puts up the  best  fight  i guess.  even when a  fighter acts   disrespectful  i  still,  respect their  ability  to  win, by  saying  that  i  think  fedor  would  not  get  stuck under brock  like  mir  did i&#8217;m nut  hugging.</p>
<p>ok,  have the  last   word  big  guy&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: dbiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re the biggest nuthugger on this site and have been for years.

Did you get the &quot;I heart Fedor&quot; tattoo yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re the biggest nuthugger on this site and have been for years.</p>
<p>Did you get the &#8220;I heart Fedor&#8221; tattoo yet?</p>
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		<title>By: dbiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um....AA got KOed by Brett Rogers in something like 30 seconds.  Your posting privileges are hereby revoked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;.AA got KOed by Brett Rogers in something like 30 seconds.  Your posting privileges are hereby revoked.</p>
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		<title>By: dbiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to point out that Fedor has been slumming his fights since the last Nogueira fight.

I&#039;m sure that beating Zuluzinho and HMC will prepare him for Lesnar.  After all, getting a kickboxer  on the ground will SURELY be great experience and a solid game plan against a world-class wrestler.

Look, Fedor is....stale.  And that&#039;s why Affliction works for him.  They have no legitimate HW threats.  No one who hasn&#039;t been run out of the UFC in some fashion (and don&#039;t start on Arlovski, his serious MMA career is over after the Rogers debacle).  Maybe Affliction can save the golden goose by bulking Buentello up for a title fight or by importing a 500 lb sumo for an MMA fight, but the serious contenders are done.

As has been mentioned elsewhere, Barnett has been demolished over half a dozen times by former Fedor opponents.  He&#039;s not the #2 HW in the world, just in Affliction.  But I&#039;ll be pulling for him just so the Russian Pube Bungee Jumpers (nuthuggers, if you didn&#039;t make the connection) can sit back and realize that Fedor should have hung it up and gone to sambo full time when he was on top.

-dbiz

PS, Mir doing something Fedor couldn&#039;t in the Nogueira (stoppage by KO) fight really takes a little shine off that victory doesn&#039;t it?  Or will the excuse be made that Nog isn&#039;t&#039; the same fighter he was 4 or 5 years ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to point out that Fedor has been slumming his fights since the last Nogueira fight.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that beating Zuluzinho and HMC will prepare him for Lesnar.  After all, getting a kickboxer  on the ground will SURELY be great experience and a solid game plan against a world-class wrestler.</p>
<p>Look, Fedor is&#8230;.stale.  And that&#8217;s why Affliction works for him.  They have no legitimate HW threats.  No one who hasn&#8217;t been run out of the UFC in some fashion (and don&#8217;t start on Arlovski, his serious MMA career is over after the Rogers debacle).  Maybe Affliction can save the golden goose by bulking Buentello up for a title fight or by importing a 500 lb sumo for an MMA fight, but the serious contenders are done.</p>
<p>As has been mentioned elsewhere, Barnett has been demolished over half a dozen times by former Fedor opponents.  He&#8217;s not the #2 HW in the world, just in Affliction.  But I&#8217;ll be pulling for him just so the Russian Pube Bungee Jumpers (nuthuggers, if you didn&#8217;t make the connection) can sit back and realize that Fedor should have hung it up and gone to sambo full time when he was on top.</p>
<p>-dbiz</p>
<p>PS, Mir doing something Fedor couldn&#8217;t in the Nogueira (stoppage by KO) fight really takes a little shine off that victory doesn&#8217;t it?  Or will the excuse be made that Nog isn&#8217;t&#8217; the same fighter he was 4 or 5 years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: dbiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By RNC? How do you choke a man with NO NECK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By RNC? How do you choke a man with NO NECK?</p>
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		<title>By: russiandoeboi</title>
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		<dc:creator>russiandoeboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s  interesting,
to  compare brock  with   gracie/ early  ufc  days.

sounds   crazy  but,
in this  era,
brock brings  something that trumps anyone so far in his,
 ahem..
   distinguished  career,  
where  he has conquered  3 different, count &#039;em   three  opponents  in the  UFC HW  div.

if i  was  fighting  someone  like  him i&#039;d look at the very  big ground  control  issue.

his  ground  game  might not  be  diverse   but it  is  very  effective.

fedor  always  seems to  know what  to do. hunt  has an  iron  chin and is  not a grappler so  he  was happy to  stay  out out of  range of hunts  hand which  standing  are way scarier than  brock&#039;s  (even  with the  reach  brock has). the  armbar  attempts looked  juvenile, but  fedor  seemed to  be  stuck  under  hunt. i think  if  he  could  have gotten  top  position  with out    effore  he&#039;d  have  done  it  but   didn&#039;t  want to  waste the    effort with a  50  lb  weight   difference getting  out  from  nder   brock  seems  pretty  hard...  but  since couture managed it even  at  his  weight  and   age ! rebuttals: that  is  mir&#039;s  weakest area _WHY?  because  he has  become  great  at subbing from his   back  and  may have    focussed on that  in  brock2  trainning. cain would not  likely  have  ogt  stuck in brock&#039;s  armpit   like a  little   brother, nor  carwin , nor smaller, but  sneakier  fedorfedor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s  interesting,<br />
to  compare brock  with   gracie/ early  ufc  days.</p>
<p>sounds   crazy  but,<br />
in this  era,<br />
brock brings  something that trumps anyone so far in his,<br />
 ahem..<br />
   distinguished  career,<br />
where  he has conquered  3 different, count &#8216;em   three  opponents  in the  UFC HW  div.</p>
<p>if i  was  fighting  someone  like  him i&#8217;d look at the very  big ground  control  issue.</p>
<p>his  ground  game  might not  be  diverse   but it  is  very  effective.</p>
<p>fedor  always  seems to  know what  to do. hunt  has an  iron  chin and is  not a grappler so  he  was happy to  stay  out out of  range of hunts  hand which  standing  are way scarier than  brock&#8217;s  (even  with the  reach  brock has). the  armbar  attempts looked  juvenile, but  fedor  seemed to  be  stuck  under  hunt. i think  if  he  could  have gotten  top  position  with out    effore  he&#8217;d  have  done  it  but   didn&#8217;t  want to  waste the    effort with a  50  lb  weight   difference getting  out  from  nder   brock  seems  pretty  hard&#8230;  but  since couture managed it even  at  his  weight  and   age ! rebuttals: that  is  mir&#8217;s  weakest area _WHY?  because  he has  become  great  at subbing from his   back  and  may have    focussed on that  in  brock2  trainning. cain would not  likely  have  ogt  stuck in brock&#8217;s  armpit   like a  little   brother, nor  carwin , nor smaller, but  sneakier  fedorfedor.</p>
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		<title>By: bsbiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well given that DBiz is currently away on vacation, I&#039;ll do my best to channel his spirit...

I would also and another thing to the list of what ifs:  The health of his hands.  How often over the last few years have we heard about a Fedor fight getting pushed back a few months because of a hand injury?  Once a bone is broken, there is an increased risk of re-breaking it, even though technically the bone &quot;re-grows&quot; stronger than originally.  I will admit to being completely ignorant of sambo rules, but MMA seems to have taken a physical toll on Fedor&#039;s hands.  I don&#039;t know if it affects Fedor in sambo or if the contact in sambo hinders the healing process.

Chom:  &quot;He [Lesnar]doesn’t have the advantage over Fedor that he had over Mir because Fedor can best him in any aspect of the game… other than the potential brute strength.&quot;  Seriously did you say that?  Mir didn&#039;t hold an advantage over Lesnar?  Everyone on this site (myself included) felt that if it turned into a technical match between Mir and Lesnar, Mir would win handily.  It seems to me that Fedor would present a similar problem as Mir did.  And don&#039;t underestimate what kind of advantage forty pounds and quite a bit of extra brute strength is.  The brute strength and size can help make up the gap in technical submission ability.

As far as the judo/sambo experience vs. the wrestling of Lesnar, that&#039;s where the fight will be won/lost.  End of story.  I don&#039;t believe that either one of them is exactly a striking genius, but both can land a punch that will permit them to begin their systematic ground destruction of their opponent.  The fighter who lands on top will more than likely win.

Not that it really matters a whole lot.  It&#039;s kind of like arguing whether the 1975 Reds were better than the 1927 Yankkes.  Or whether the 1985 Bears defense was bettter than the 200 Ravens defense.  You&#039;re comparing across generations of sport.  You&#039;re comparing entities that will not ever directly compete against each other.  Fedor&#039;s people (M1, WAMMA, other business interests) will continue to make outrageous demands and Dana White/UFC will not budge on them.  As I said somewhere else, the earliest this fight would take place is 2011.  Affliction does not have the depth at heavyweight to keep Fedor in MMA shape (he can only fight Arlovski and Barnett so many times...).  It&#039;s one of those nice thought experiments to go through, but ultimately just as fruitless as hoping to not have to go through the bitching about fighter salaries after each event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well given that DBiz is currently away on vacation, I&#8217;ll do my best to channel his spirit&#8230;</p>
<p>I would also and another thing to the list of what ifs:  The health of his hands.  How often over the last few years have we heard about a Fedor fight getting pushed back a few months because of a hand injury?  Once a bone is broken, there is an increased risk of re-breaking it, even though technically the bone &#8220;re-grows&#8221; stronger than originally.  I will admit to being completely ignorant of sambo rules, but MMA seems to have taken a physical toll on Fedor&#8217;s hands.  I don&#8217;t know if it affects Fedor in sambo or if the contact in sambo hinders the healing process.</p>
<p>Chom:  &#8220;He [Lesnar]doesn’t have the advantage over Fedor that he had over Mir because Fedor can best him in any aspect of the game… other than the potential brute strength.&#8221;  Seriously did you say that?  Mir didn&#8217;t hold an advantage over Lesnar?  Everyone on this site (myself included) felt that if it turned into a technical match between Mir and Lesnar, Mir would win handily.  It seems to me that Fedor would present a similar problem as Mir did.  And don&#8217;t underestimate what kind of advantage forty pounds and quite a bit of extra brute strength is.  The brute strength and size can help make up the gap in technical submission ability.</p>
<p>As far as the judo/sambo experience vs. the wrestling of Lesnar, that&#8217;s where the fight will be won/lost.  End of story.  I don&#8217;t believe that either one of them is exactly a striking genius, but both can land a punch that will permit them to begin their systematic ground destruction of their opponent.  The fighter who lands on top will more than likely win.</p>
<p>Not that it really matters a whole lot.  It&#8217;s kind of like arguing whether the 1975 Reds were better than the 1927 Yankkes.  Or whether the 1985 Bears defense was bettter than the 200 Ravens defense.  You&#8217;re comparing across generations of sport.  You&#8217;re comparing entities that will not ever directly compete against each other.  Fedor&#8217;s people (M1, WAMMA, other business interests) will continue to make outrageous demands and Dana White/UFC will not budge on them.  As I said somewhere else, the earliest this fight would take place is 2011.  Affliction does not have the depth at heavyweight to keep Fedor in MMA shape (he can only fight Arlovski and Barnett so many times&#8230;).  It&#8217;s one of those nice thought experiments to go through, but ultimately just as fruitless as hoping to not have to go through the ****ing about fighter salaries after each event.</p>
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		<title>By: jcohl</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcohl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>andrew, I&#039;ll assume that you&#039;re an OK guy with posters of Fedor and trading cards of Andrei Arlovski in your dorm room and just leave it at that, ok? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>andrew, I&#8217;ll assume that you&#8217;re an OK guy with posters of Fedor and trading cards of Andrei Arlovski in your dorm room and just leave it at that, ok? <img src='http://mmafrenzy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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