Nate Diaz vs. Melvin Guillard To Headline UFC Fight Night 19
Ultimate Fighter 5 lightweight winner Nate Diaz will look to rebound from back-to-back losses when he takes on Melvin Guillard in the main event of UFC Fight Night 19 on September 16 in Oklahoma City.
The UFC announced the 155-pound matchup on Tuesday, with another lightweight matchup between Roger Huerta and Gray Maynard set to co-headline the Spike-televised card.
After falling short in a WEC lightweight championship bout against Hermes Franca, Diaz (10-4) won The Ultimate Fighter 5 with a finals win over Manny Gamburyan. Following four-straight wins over Junior Assuncao, Alvin Robinson, Kurt Pellegrino, and Josh Neer, Diaz suffered the first setback of his UFC career, a split decision loss to Clay Guida in January. In his most-recent fight at The Ultimate Fighter 9 Finale in June, Diaz suffered a unanimous decision loss to Joe Stevenson.
Following a 3-1 start to his UFC career, Guillard (22-7-2) headlined UFC Fight Night 9 against Joe Stevenson but was submitted in just 27-seconds, then tested positive for cocaine and served an eight month suspension. After suffering a loss to Rich Clementi in his first bout after the suspension in late-2007, Guillard briefly left the promotion, earning a decision win over Eric Regan before returning with a “Knockout of the Night” of Denis Siver at UFC 86 last July. “The Young Assassin” was scheduled to take on Spencer Fisher at UFC 90 in October, but a torn ACL forced him out of the bout. Guillard returned to the Octagon at the TUF 9 Finale, picking up a split decision over Gleison Tibau.
In addition to Diaz-Guillard and Huerta-Maynard, UFC Fight Night 19 is rumored to include Dan Miller vs. Aaron Simpson, Chris Wilson vs. Mike Pyle, Jeremy Stephens vs. Ronny Torres, Tim Credeur vs. Nate Quarry, and Kyle Bradley vs. Sam Stout.
For the latest UFC Fight Night 19 rumors check out the MMAFrenzy.com UFC rumors section.
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Nate Diaz v Melvin Guillard hmmmmmmmmmm interesting matchup up ofcourse classic striker v grappler but hey I can get with this fight hell, I might even pull for Nate Diaz in this one
Huerta v Maynard is going to be a fun fight I believe but it will go to decision i think, this card is looking good too bad it is in Oklahoma (most of you know how I feel about that place)
Im looking forward to Maynard and Huerta twice is much if not more but whatever.
Great main event. Naaaaaaat. Two Guys I could care less about. After seeing his fight with Tibau, I think that Guillard can handle his own in the grappling department, but Nate is slick with his subs. The questionj is can nate get him down. He hasnt looked to imposing lately and Melvin is no slouch in the streanghth department. Plus his Judo and Takedown defence looks better. I see a UD for Melvin. Should be a close fight though.
Hey honestly for a “Fight Night” this isn’t a bad main, for me personally I would put Huerta v Gray as the main o wait why would you put a guy that is leaving the org to be a model or some shhhh as the main attraction of a tv card? thats alsmost as bad as Kimbo being the main event ahead of a title fight that was sad or well happy EliteXC died a brutal horrible death F~em… Back to the Fight Night card, those are two pretty good fights for free right there and I’m not upset about Nate v Melvin being the main, its free and well all good imo….. O and like you said this depends on if Nate can use his technique to takedown Melvin cuz we all know he isn’t going to over power Guillard….
Diaz should win this with his superior Jits. I personally think its better than Tibau’s. Although I don’t think Diaz chin can stand up to Melvin’s big right hand IF he connects.
DAM I CANT WAIT FOR THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!!
Oh my god, sorry guys I wasn’t paying to close attention this is the main event? WOW the Huerta/Maynard fight is way more worthy. This is Dana’s way of saying farewell to Roger. Somewhat of what he {Dana] did with fitch when not signing to the UFC game rights. Although Fitch worked his way back to the main card where he belongs.
First of all, how does Guillard-Diaz headline over Maynard-Huerta?
Guillard is obviously going to go for the knockout which i feel is his only shot at winning this fight because if Nate takes him to the ground which i expect him to do, then Guillard will most likely get submitted. But if Diaz decides to strike with Guillard(which Diaz sometimes likes to do), he’ll open the door for Guillard to put him away,i’ll be very surporised if Diaz doesn’t try to take the fight to the ground. Diaz is a decent fighter with a decent overall game but has some sick jj, Guillard has improved his ground game but for sure still needs work and is better off trying to keep this fight standing. Should be an interesting fight but should have been the co-headliner rather than the actual main event.
I’m a huge Huerta fan, but he hasn’t fought since last year and he’s going to fight Maynard who is a very good wrestler. Huerta i feel has more tools than Maynard, Huerta has better stand-up,better subs, but the cardio is even i think between the two. Huerta biggest weakness is being on his back,if Maynard takes him down he’ll be able to control him like Guida did, but Huerta has shown in the past that he has very good defense overall and can take lots of punishment. This fight is interesting because if Maynard wins it puts him in line for a title shot, but if Huerta wins who knows who the next #1 contender will be after Sanchez, i said before that it would be awesome to see Sanchez vs Huerta in Mexico which is not too far fetched IMO. Anyway i’m rooting for Huerta, i feel he’s the more well rounded fighter and has fought tougher competition than Maynard, but Maynard’s wrestling is for sure strong enough to carry him to victory. This fight should have been the main event.
yet Marvel, we do realize that essentially (unless something has happend behind closed doors) this is Huerta’s final fight for the UFC if not of his MMA career…. So I highly doubt that Sanchez v Huerta will happen in Mexico but yes that is a fight I would like to see as well…. But Huerta has decided to become a model/movie star instead… Hence why he IS NOT the mainevent
i dont like this guillard
stevensonDiaz {edit FR702} matchup only because i really like both guys and if diaz losses his job will be in some serious jeopardy!…..but i also want to see melvin win because i really like this new changed life melvin……but i do believe roger huerta vs gray “the real #1 contender” maynard should be the main event…because who doesnt want to see maynard whoop on huerta aka mr. im never gonna loseI hear about Guillard-Diaz but Diaz does have two things going for him and that’s that 1) He’s won three straight fight of night honors
2) He’s a TUF champ with a guarenteed 3 year deal. So even if he does lose he’d SHOULD be ok.
Am I the only one who thinks the UFN 19 card is stacking up much better than 103? And this bothers me greatly since I live in Dallas.
Spuffin,
Dude 103 has two better matchups then diaz-guillard and huerta-maynard. It’s got swick vs kampann and kos vs trigg. More entertaining fights imo.
Gunslinger,
Sorry dude, you might be the only one who wants to see that. I on the other hand, want huerta to win and get a crop cop “offer he can’t refuse” so we can see marvel’s matchmaking which is huerta against diego.
This UFN looks pretty good. I really believe there has to be something in the works for huerta behind the scenes since he is matched up against maynard who is highly considered the #1 guy after diego.
Nat diaz is going to get ko’d dude. I’ve always thought guillard could be dangerous and dominant @ 155 if he not only changed his attitude overall, but worked his grappling and ground game. Diaz is a scronny, skinny ass dude with no power, and take down defense(not that he’ll need that against guillard). He’s got great jitz but that’s only going to take him so far(as we are seeing). Guillard has a lot of potential. He’s just got to stay focused. We’ll see what happens.
cant wait for the swick-kampman fight that going to be fireworks
Im with u. I wish the Huerta fight was on the 103 card. I live in Houston and plan on makin the trip for 103. Not to mention that Huerta was originally from Texas, not Minnesota.
This is a good card! I am a big Diaz fan and I like Melvin as well, but i am going to be rooting for Diaz!
Huerta and Gray is another good one. I think Meynard will pick up a decision.
I think Gray and Huerta should be the main event. Guillard should have been cut by the UFC long ago. Huerta should fight D. Sanchez next to see who should really get a shot at Florian.
guillard should not have been cut…he just had some personal problems and now that those are solved he is doing fantastic
I agree
also who wants huerta to win he’s just another cung le…who would rather be famous than be a fighter
I agree once again lol
thanks rhyme
yeah roger is always lookin for cheap ways to get in the spotlight. sorry that he has options
(No personal attacks – Justin)
Too bad all four of these clowns can’t lose on the same card. that would be sweet.
Clowns?!? are u serious??
3 of these guys could probably contend for a title..
and guillard is coming off a victory over a descent fighter!
dont feed the trolls eye-rhyme
No fighter bashing. – Justin
This is a good news, bad news, sort of event for me.
The good news is that Huerta is stepping back into the cage, maybe for the final time, and facing Maynard, who some people think might be overrated or overregarded. This fight should answer some questions about both.
IMO we’ll be able to tell if Huerta is considering coming back to MMA by how well he’s prepared for this fight. If his cardio is off and his standup shady, you know he’s already thinking about Tommy Hilfiger or whatever. If he makes the fight competative, or wins, then maybe we’ll be seeing Huerta back in the cage in the future.
The bad news is the Diaz-Guillard fight.
If both of those guys were rolling on my front lawn, I doubt I’d raise the shade to check it out, unless they were disturbing my dog.
Guillard, aside from a bad hair dye-job, has shown me nothing skill-wise that I haven’t seen in a dozen smaller shows both on the mainland and in the Islands. He’s a quick little stand-up boxer-type who’s looking to run and gun rather than lock-up with his opponents, who are almost to a man better grapplers than he is.
More sizzle than steak there, IMO, so I’m reluctantly predicting Diaz by sub in either rounds 2 or 3.
What can I say about Nate Diaz that he hasn’t said about himself, except that he says it with a “Sylvester the Cat” voice delivery?
He fights the best, he beats the best, he’s the unofficial mayor of Stockton, his brother is great, they love the green, blahblahblah.
Whatever.
I hope these 2 guys KO each other, so we’re spared their attempts to communicate their “greatness” to us thru Joe Rogan. A Nate Diaz “interview” is probably the only time I mute my TV while watching MMA.
He’s also manorexic, which makes it hard to enjoy all the food I prepare for my MMA-watching crew when his entire skeletal structure can be exposed by a bright light.
He’d better catch the much stronger Guillard in a submission, because otherwise he’ll get rag-dolled for 15 minutes and catch another “L”, which would make me smile for hours.
Regardless of my personal feelings, 19 is shaping up to be a solid free-per-view…
JCOHL,
Dude…the avatar…explain!
Jazzkok – I’m guessing you mean who is that on my avatar?
It’s a grappler named Rylan Lizares, who co-founded the Gracie Technics school in Honolulu.
Google his accomplishments if you’re curious, and if you’re a ground game fan, and have the time, watch some of his matches. Amazing stuff, to be sure, and rumor has it that he’s thinking about trying his hand at MMA, because of all the money and notoriety the sport is gaining.
Trust me, I’ve been involved with submission wrestling for over 11 years, and if this guy ever developed an MMA game even half as good as his ground game, we wouldn’t be debating over who is the best WW in the world.
Jazzok
Dude….Explain your avator….????
GOt it Jcohl,
The dude just looks confused
wat up onlytrue1
My avatar personifies dominance,confidance and antogansm.
Or it could just be a demon with his arms wrapped around some naked chik…LOL
Hey, jcohl, I’ve tried to be cool man but look…
I’m the designated diaz-basher here. Not you, me. It’s how I’m known, it’s what I do. Well, that and bash Fedor’s weak record for the last 4 years. And rag on people complaining about pay in the UFC. And endlessly ridicule the simple-minded. And be a general smartass and thorn in the side of Justin and Kris when they try to run a site where some people don’t talk down to and belittle others.
But aside from all that, diaz-bashing is what I do. And I’m really starting to feel some competition here. The worst part is, I’m not sure I can hang, so I’m going to have to ask you to go find another site to bash the Lithping Wonderth of the Wetht, cuz you’re really making me up my game, and that just doesn’t work for me and my plans for laziness.
Ok?
i feel like im watching not another teen movie with the two token black guys at the same party
dbiz – I’ll take it as a compliment that you even noticed my stuff in comparison to yours.
I wasn’t trying to cramp your style, or steal your gimmick, just trying to get along and fit in while expressing myself.
I do have real problems with people who act like one of the Diaz brothers, or anyone who lets their ego get in the way of whats good for the sport, like Fedor, but your point is well taken.
I’ll do my best moving forward to not step on any toes, or make you work too hard. Rather than move on to another side I’ll just shelve my opinions and let you do your thing.
Maybe we’ll just permanently stipulate that I have problems with both Fedor and the Diaz brothers, and from now I’ll just stand by their figurative “grave-site” smiling and nodding while you nail their coffins shut and shovel dirt onto the boxes with your commentary.
That work for you?
By the way, I really liked your solution to the fighter compensation issue better than mine. A 10 grand minimum is a way better solution than my across the board percentage increase. A lot fairer to the lower parts of the card as well. If a prelim guy gets 2 grand, my “solution” only scores him another $400.
Using your solution, the guy snags a check for 10 grand, which seems a lot fairer.
Really well thought out IMO, and the perfect example of why I visit this site, to be exposed to different viewpoints on MMA.
Its much appreciated.
You do know I was kidding, right? I totally used up my quota of fatwas on FR a while back….and now I don’t even remember why.
The reason I thought of the minimum is because they play the percentage games at work. Those who make little don’t get as much out of a 5% raise while those who make more…well in some cases they can buy a new car with theirs. Percentages are great for making the rich richer, but they do very little for the bottom end.
While a 10k minimum would be fantastic, I think a 6-8k minimum is more likely (and in most cases, already the bottom level – I expect it to be bare bottom once the old contracts are up). What the UFC really needs to do is help the fighters get better sponsorships – IF THE FIGHTERS SEEK THE HELP. The UFC clearly has some contacts and a vested interest in getting fighters paid more without doing it themselves. One staffer could be a pointman for all companies looking to sponsor fighters…a clearinghouse of sorts I suppose.
@jcohl
I like your knowledge about the sport of MMA, and when you talk on this site I can see it comes from somebody who knows he’s things.
But I can not agree with you on a Fedors bashing and comparing with the Diaz , brothers.
You should do a little bit more research on this guy and you will see , he is the opposite of what you saying about him.
Melvin by tko early in the 1st rd!!!!
If Huerta wins, where does that put Gray Maynard being that Huerta is most likely done with fighting(at least for now), where does Maynard stand, AND if Huerta wins,hypathetically speaking, if he’d sign a new fight deal, where would that put him?
if huerta wins and he re-signs, he should get either diego, or the next shot after diego gets one. Right now, there arent many potential #1 contenders @ lw.
but huerta wont win!
what’s the matter gunslinger? got a problem with hollywood?
no its just i cant stand to see fighters throw away awesome oppurtunities like fighting in the ufc(something thouzands of mma fighters would kill to be accepted in), i like to see a fighters heart in my fighters not a hollywood star….and gray is my boy
read the book – A Fighters Heart by Sam Sheridan- that book pretty muc shows exactly what martial arts and fighting should be
Man where were you like a week ago when this fight first got announced. I was fending off all of the Gray haters single handedly. Look back if you want to its pretty funny, I even asked for your help in one of my posts.
Thats why im not saying much now. I just feel like im repeating myself.
But ya Huerta has no chance.
I won’t argue that huerta’s heart of a fighter isn’t what it used to be and i also agree 100% about being gratefull to be a UFC fighter. Dude it’s this simple, the guys talented and has made a name for himself in the UFC, but he’s got other opportunities that he’s taking advantage of. For example,chuck lidell appeard on a couple of tv shows if i’m not mistakened. Couture made a movie(didn’t watch either), but they remained fighters. How come huerta can’t do that? If anything, i think huertas young enough to have a chance at all three. Dude don’t hate on “el matador”.
Huerta has no chance? Huerta is a better overall fighter than Maynard is. Maynard is a one trick pony. And if you have any weustions about Huerta’s heart just watch the fight with Guida, Guida basically kicked his ass the whole fight, but Huerta never gave up and finished Guida like nobody ever has. Huerta will beat Maynard,
Marvel come on dude. Dont get me goin here. Maynard proved he isnt a one trick pony by putting a stand-up clinic on Miller. The guy didnt go for one takedown the whole fight. Granted he dint do anything that made our jaws drop. But he still contolled the entire fight every where they went.(something nobody has been able to do) This is a guy who threw nothing but looping power punches only just a year ago.(see fight with siver) The only chance Roger has is catching Gray witha big shot. Gray will score well with his cleaner striking and improved boxing to set up big takedown and wear out an unfocussed Huerta.
i was having some personal problems..within my family
ooooh sorry dude.
IM SORRY …IM SO TIRED OF EVERYONE CALLING MAYNARD A ONE TRICK PONY…..ITS OBVIOUS THAT IM THEE ONLY ONE THAT WATCHED HIM OUR BOX JIM MILLER LAST FIGHT….HUERTA IS NOT THAT GOOD HE BUILT HIMSELF ON BEATING PEOPLE MAKING THERE UFC DEBUTS(INCLUDING JASON DENT WHO ALMOST BEAT HIM)…THEN GETTING A LUCKY CHOKE ON GUIDA AFTER DOMINATED BY GUIDA……IM SORRY BUT HUERTA IS A SLOPPY STRIKER AND YOULL SEE THAT MORE IN THIS FIGHT WHEN MAYNARD OUT BOX’S HIM…..HE THROWS HIS KICKS LIKE RICHARD SIMONS!
lol nice. Ive tryed getting a Simmons joke in before but it felt weird. That was good. Please look back a few days worth of posts to see me battling off the Gray haters like I was sir lancelot. Then look at the list of my favorite fighters on my profile. You will then know your not alone my brother.
Maynard is from cleveland and those streets be tough i tell you……do you guys even know what people have to put up with when there from cleveland………………………the browns suck!….the cavs choke every year…….and the indians suck one year then choke the next year…….maynard is the one thing ohio has left and he will bring home a belt for cleveland after he beats huerta and shows dana why diego can suck maynards cheif wahoo and wait his turn for a title shot he doesnt deserve
could be worse… you could be an ATLien…
I do favor Maynard in this fight, oh
and technically Forrest is an Ohio boy too…
Isn’t Rich Franklin an Ohio guy?
And didn’t he bring the UFC MW belt “home” for awhile? And isn’t he working towards a LHW title shot, wherein in theory he could bring home to Ohio the LHW belt??
Just putting it out there for Ohioans everywhere…
1st i dont think roger h is going to lay down he wants to be able to fight when he wants and do other stuff. so he wants to be more in the showtime type events.i see roger winning maybe grey will knock himself out again. he just like tyson griffin can take a big hit but never really knocks people out.and yes i would rather see nick diaz but melvin g. did he really even win his last fight,did he beat josh neer, no he got choked out.diaz beat neer. melvin lost in first round. just because your life is now in order doesnt make you a great fighter all of sudden.top of the card, thats even worse.thats like sayin bs like alves is the tuffest fight yet for st pierre,when he fought fitch who already beat alves, won 15 straight fights and not only beat alves but also burkman and diego sanchez and brock larson. bj and matt hughes when he was younger is not a tougher fight. sorry guys melvin is gettin subed in the first round.grey is gettin knocked out hopefully as hard as tommy speer did so he stops fighting. i dont know why people even like those guys i guess he is great just because he handled franky edgar.dont get me wrong the more fight nights the better but i think 103 will be good.and dont hate on roger because he better lookin then most of us, when was the last roger fight that wasnt exciting. grey i can name a few,how about all of them except when he knocked himself out.
(No fighter bashing. – Justin)
That was quite the rant my friend. Sounded like that had been boiling up for some time. This is a good place to let it out, even though i dissagree with everything you said.
what did say that was wrong
Besides your spelling? There were lots of things that i thought were not necessarily wrong (cause its your opinion dude) but just a little off. But here we go I guess
1. Roger doesnt want to fight hes made that clear. Atleast as of right now cause he hasnt resigned.
2. Gray wont knock himself out. He wasnt even out in the first fight. Dazed and rocked ya. But not out.
3.In eight fights Gray has 2 KO’s 25%. Not bad for a guy who has been training for three years and has a wrestling base. What are you expecting?
4.Maybe hes kinda like Tyson Griffin cause they’ve been training parterners for 2 years. That is a compliment in my books to be compared to a guy like Griffin.
5.”I would rather see nick diaz but melvin G. come on guys hes butt.that means he sucks”?????????? Everything about that sentence was wrong. Like can you translate for me.
6.Melvin “was” someone who’s used coccaine. Hes not a cokehead save that for bobby brown.
7.Clementi has more fights than 90% of the fighters in the UFC and is a vet. Hes also the only person who made gray look human.
Losing to him isnt like losing to dave kaplan.
8.Yes Guillard did win his last fight. Although I gave it to Tibau it was about as close as fights get.
9.He was putting a whuppin on neer until he got cought in a Triangle.($hit happens)
10.The fight with Neer and Diaz was also extremely close. No shame there dude.
11.You did make one great point though. That the fight shouldnt be the main event. We went over that up top though bud.
12.At this point in his career YES Thiago is the biggest threat to GSP. Why becasue he has more ways to win than Fitch did. Everybody and their mom knew that Fitch was going to be a tough guy for GSP but no one realy saw Jon beating him. If you wanna talk about who’s beat who. OK ya Fitch beat Alvez. He cought him with an upkick while he was getting blasted on the bottom.
Thiago is one of the very very very few people who beat 3 top 10 contenders in a row to get a shot at the belt. Fitch beat Sanchez, Carneiro, and Wilson only one guy there in the top 20. Plus Thiago is putting these guys away not going to decisioins.
13.Melvin might get subbed, but he looked good against a black belt in Tibau so he could do OK against a brown belt in Diaz. Decent point though.
14.Gray is the only one who has ever rocked Gray so i wouldnt count on your boy Huerta getting the KO.
15.No talent whiteboys huh? How about you say that to BJ and Forrest Griffin who have both recruited Gray for all his lack of talent. Or ask Edgar who his only loss is to.
16.I dont think anybody here has ever commented on how good looking Roger is let alone hated on him for it. Were above that dude.
17.Thought Id save this for last. Since you like to bring up fights from 3 years ago, I will bring one up to. Remember that so called “cokehead” “aint that good of a fighter” Guillard. Well he beat your boy Huerta, but had the fight overturned cause he was supposedly VSP’d in between rounds.
You asked me what was wrong. So I answered.
and i was sayin id rather see nick then nate diaz, either way melvin does not need to headline.
carls gives 17 points and all you say is nick instead of nate, not much of a comeback if you ask me… but hey so be it i guess
Why respond to half of these.1 roger may just not want to fight for dana.2 if you think theres not a good chance roger will get the ko, have you seen how hard he hits,no chance grey will hit him back with something that hard.3 i only see 1 ko on his record and 7-0-1 record thats not 25 percent and when you knock out someone who has a record of 4-3 and loss to corey hill quick as i said below not impressed with greys power.4 just believe it guys tyson and grey dont end fights and tyson is better than grey. way better!!!!!!!5 nick diaz fights are awesome sorry and hes got more power.6and7 sorry rich clem. is not a bad fighter but if you cant make it 3 rounds with him sorry your not good enough to make it all the way up the ranks. sorry i forget that melvin did beat ricky davis or rich davis hahaha,he lost quick to stevenson and he will be choked out in the 1st.not ever going to be a headline.8 everyone including you had it for tibeu.9 he had landed punches just like all his fights then gets caught in a finishing move just like he does in fights with people who have any bjj look it up im right.10 i never said nate was the next best thing he will just catch melvin in a choke probably in the end of round1. 11 you agree im right melvin not a headliner.12 alves lost his first match in ufc which means he is prone to gitters fitch is a rock who has a win over alves, a better record and 15 wins in arow alves has only has 16 total and losses to people he shouldnt of had. fitch has one of his losses not even at 170 so not going to say alves is better or more dangerous until he proves it.13 tibeu cant even put two wins together in the ufc and melvin didnt win that fight sorry!!!!!!!14 roger could still get the dec. but we have never seen grey fight a striker so how do you know he wont get blasted.15 sorry guys like edgar, griffin and grey dont have the ko power to ever get the belt.and i rather watch more exciting fighters just my opinion you dont have to like it because they out wrestle people for three rounds. wow!!!!!!!!!!!!16 fighters take time off if he has dreams of being a model or actor ok he will get paid more and there was comments like he wants to be famous not a fighter. i think he just like tito and doesnt like dana.17 roger is not my boy my favorite fighters is not him its thiago silva and lyoto. but he has way more talent then grey or melvin. you think melvin or grey could have the heart to come back on guida.melvin would of been done first round. and grey couldnt finsh with tyson griffin helping him. and tyson griffin lost 2 rounds to one against guida in one of the worst dec. ever. so get over your man crushes and dont writes 17 points with some of them even agreeing with me. and think you said anything to change anybody thoughts that grey is a one trick pony and melvin does not deserve to headline, crap is what that was. hey guys look at the speech i gave him like carls would say something like that after so i can play that game to.hes probably a white belt on sherdog who cares, you will see on fight night. peace out
(Edited for various reasons. – Justin)
RETURN BUTTON MOTHERLOVER*! DO YOU HAVE IT?
*Cleaned up just like they do when they put movies on tv
A whitebelt on sherdog???????? Most of us truly don’t care about that place I have never been associated with that place and well if that is standard you go by that is pretty sad…. Futhermore everyone (if they sign up for a site) has a join date sooo what does that have to do with their personal knowledge of MMA?
*here is a little sidenote for everyone, Knightboy and Justin started the twigs and berries situation last year, Knightboy(624) said that roids makes your unit smaller and he would much rather smoke weed with rogan…. that’s is how that started who knew… See I’ve gone over all of his posts and well, I have come to the conclusion that Knightboy knows “his” MMA but likes to see how far he can push things with people…. So please return from your hiatus being the big guy over at sherpup when Fight Night is over and let us read your infinite wisdom, just chill with the personal attacks that you have a history of o and one last thing with the amount of posts you have here I guess you’re (as you put it) a whitebelt…. have a good one
FR702
i have never put any comment on sherdog i only look at mmajunkie and mmafrenzy. and everything i say i have examples and reasons to back it up. and someone other than me was talkin about me being a white belt. sorry i dont like fighters just because dana white or someone tells me hes from his town or hes a great fighter.
i hate when people bring up gray vs emerson ooo gray had like what 2 fights before thta shut up and maybe if you knew a thing or two about mma you would know that gray actually does knock people out actually he ko’d joe veres in nine seconds!…learn something then ill take your huerta/maynard talk seriously….you sir are now my arch enemy good day
(No personal attacks. – Justin)
No fighter bashing or personal attacks. Also edited because part of this was in response to personal attacks from gunslinger. – Justin
While I can see your point there about Guillard. You seem to be forgetting he has three straight wins including KO of the night against Dennis Siver. You also bring up Clementi beating Guillard earlier, well Tibau beat Clementi in his last fight and then Tibau lost to Guillard. So how do we know Guillard isn’t a better fighter now?
Thiago Alves only provides a tougher challange to GSP because he’s a completely different fighter than anyone GSP has faced at WW. Almost everyone GSP has faced has been either a wrestler or a grappler. No one with the striking power of Alves and if GSP was KO’d by Matt Serra then it’s a tough test. It’s a match up issue. Fitch is almost GSP another version of GSP’s game. If Fitch had the BJJ it’d be carbon copies.
On Gray… What’s with the hate? He’s a great wrestler whose looking for a step up in competition. Huerta provides that step out and since this is Huerta’s last UFC contracted fight it’s perfect. Huerta could KO him but that means he better catch him before he looks at the lights all night. Huerta struggles against guys with good takedowns, so he’s facing Maynard… whose all takedowns and boxing. Also the last Huerta fight that wasn’t exciting was well his last one, because Florian kept the striking out of the equation and just wrestled Huerta and Huerta couldn’t do much save for a combined minute in the whole fight. I like Huerta he’s a good fighter but if you’re hearts not 100% into MMA you will not reach the top like he believes he should.
As a side note am I the only one finding the irony in Guillard getting his Blue Belt under Ricco Rodriguez?
dude if you wATCHED THE PRELIMS MELVIN DID NOT WIN THAT LAST FIGHT, THAT WAS ANOTHER BISBING HAMMILL. SOMEONE WAS PAID AND IT WAS PROBABLY A JUDGE OR2.
YOU DO MAKE A GOOD, CHECK THAT A VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT GSP-ALVES. BUT TO SAY TOUGHER THAN HUGHES,PENN OR FITCH. DUDE FITCH WAS NEVER IN TROUBLE AGAINST ALVES. SO I THINK HE COULD GET KNOCKED OUT BUT I DONT THINK HE IS GOING TO CHANCE IT.
I did watch the Prelims and I think that once again it’s a fight that shows the weakness of the scoring system. Like I always say though that’s why we have rematches. Coaches always teach to take any doubt out of a judges hands and always look to finish, neither did a great job at truly taking the over the fight and thus it was a toss up that did fall Guillard’s way. Personally I would like to see the judges not be afraid to pull the draw card but that’s me, fights like that where either fighter could be said to win depending on how an individual judge views the scoring criteria are always tough to determine but at the end of the day a win is a win if your hand is raised and the commission supports the win after the fight.
I think saying the GSP-Alves fight is tougher than with Hughes, Penn, or Fitch is a bit misleading sense the fight itself depends more on how GSP and Alves prepared for each other. HOWEVER, every aspect that the aforementioned fighters excels at plays right into GSP’s style. Alves style does not which makes the actual MATCH-UP tougher but the fight there is no way to tell if it will be tougher until Saturday night. The other match-ups were mostly ones where style wise the fighters matched up and GSP’s athleticism made up for any aspects(w/ the exception of the first Hughes fight where GSP’s inexperience showed through as well as Hughes quick thinking) where he did not hold an advantage.
yes knightboy because im sure dana said i really care who wins out of gullard/gleison……and rigged the fight because they just knew it would go to split decsion
Alves dropped Fitch in their fight knightboy so I guess he did have him in trouble.
knightboy if you would have actually made an attempt to watch every mma fight like you said you do see —-”i watch every mma match i can” and if that was a true statement then you would have known that gray did ko an opponent already and you wouldnt have had made such a comment about how gray just cant ko opponents see, you said it yourself see——”maybe grey will knock himself out again. he just like tyson griffin can take a big hit but never really knocks people out”
(Trying to calm this thing down. – Justin)
you two take it to the forums my friend!
it doesnt need to be taken there i just ended it
Or knock it off all together, I can’t stay up all night editing this crap.
Justin, it’s those angry Ohio boys and their uncontrollable urges to be jerks. BAD OHIO BOYS!
lol sorry
I gave him a good speech up top for ya dude.(The long one)
thanks carls …its over now….i love justin though he is so awesome “Or knock it off all together, I can’t stay up all night editing this crap.” that was classic i laughed for like 5 minutes straight
if you think that a knock out of a 4-3 fighter who also lost to corey hill and then was dropped from the ufc makes you good then im frank mir. i dont know who else he knocked out but if you say he has another knock out ok. but even the florian fight was better than all of greys fights.sorry i dont have a man crush on grey. if there is anybody i like watching its him,and he is going to win. sorry buddy grey or tyson will never have a belt. and i think most people not just me and chris l thought melvin lost.
(Edited because you commented on stuff I deleted, and re posted stuff you said that I already deleted. – Justin)
your right i do have a man crush on maynard…thats not really that bad….he is from cleveland pretty much my home away from home…….and i never said melvin won but im tellling you that it was close enough to go either way…..and you pretty much put your foot in your mouth saying tyson and maynard will never have title considering neither have hit there prime yet and are still young
fitch was not rocked when he threw that upkick, he wasnt even dazed.
“I can’t stay up all night editing this crap” was the funniest thing I’ve read here since “Thtockton reprethent!”…
grey maynard lw champ 20??. how about2000 never
Nate Diaz is weak,For the record he is not Nick.Melvin will knock his block off (period) Knock out first round.