WEC 42: Torres vs. Bowles Lineup Set for August 9
World Extreme Cagefighting has released the complete fight card for WEC 42: Torres vs. Bowles, which takes place on August 9 at The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas.
Joining a headlining matchup between bantamweight champ Miguel Torres and challenger Brian Bowles on the Versus-televised main card are Joseph Benavidez vs. Dominick Cruz, Danny Castillo vs. Ricardo Lamas, Jeff Curran vs. Takeya Mizugaki.
The now-complete WEC 42 fight card features:
MAIN CARD
- Miguel Torres (c) vs. Brian Bowles
WEC Bantamweight Championship - Joseph Benavidez vs. Dominick Cruz
- Danny Castillo vs. Ricardo Lamas
- Jeff Curran vs. Takeya Mizugaki
PRELIMINARY CARD
- Leonard Garcia vs. Jameel Massouh
- Fredson Paixao vs. Cole Province
- Marcus Hicks and Shane Roller
- Phil Cardella vs. Ed Ratcliff
- Kenji Osawa vs. Rani Yahya
- Rafael Dias vs. Diego Nunes
[Pictured: Miguel Torres]
Tags: Brian Bowles, Cole Province, Danny Castillo, Diego Nunes, Dominick Cruz, ed ratcliff, Fredson Paixao, Jameel Massouh, Jeff Curran, Joseph Benavidez, kenji osawa, Leonard Garcia, marcus hicks, miguel torres, Phil Cardella, Rafael Dias, Rani Yahya, Ricardo Lamas, Shane Roller, Takeya Mizugaki
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Now this is a good card and there will be some great fights, Torres v Bowles com’on thats going to be good
yeah, this is going to be a sick fight. Bowles is undefeated and Torres is always exciting to watch. Torres has a great amount of experience, but Bowles is a tough dude and he’s up for the challenge.
Wow. Leonard Garcia lost to Mike Brown in a title fight and now he’s relegated to the non-televised undercard. That was quick. I was hoping to see his fight. I guess if one or two of the main card fights end quickly…
I wouldn’t be surprised if the way in which he lost has something to do with him ending up on the under card.
So what. He lost to the champ by KO. Pulver lost by KO to Garcia and was still on the main card in his next fight. Whatever.
Silencekit- you said it yourself… Jens Pulver… former UFC champion… a name.
Leonard is better known to non hardcore MMA people for being the MMA fighter accused for helping a drug ring(he didn’t report them was his only “crime”). Once you win a title you get a lil more respect most of the time.
Actually, Garcia lost via arm triangle. He also wouldn’t be the first, nor will he be that last, title challenger to end up on the prelims his next fight out. (John Fitch, Thales Leites, just to name a couple more.)
Question for the collective.
Where does Migues Torres fall into those hypothetical “best pound for pound fighter” rankings?
The man’s made an excellent case for himself in the cage, and never really seems to be in severe danger of losing his title.
Also, I have to agree that Garcia’s rapid fall from grace is a little surprising. Losing to the champ shouldn’t IMO knock you all the way down to the prelims. Maybe there is something behind the scenes that the fanbase is unaware of??
Overall looks like a good night of fights…
I honestly never saw garcia as a “top” 145er anyways. He’s a tough guy but overrated dude. The fight vs pulver…talk about early stoppage. And we saw what the current champt did to him. Maybe it’s good for him to get more fights in before he gets back to the top.
I too have a question for the collective.
What makes a fighter, the p4p best in the world? Why would a fighter be considered the best p4p fighter in the world?
Doesn’t p4p stand for “pound for pound”? Meaning that the fighter would have to be dominant in not only his weight class, but a couple of others as well?
I always took the meaning of a “best pound for pound” to be more of what Chris indicated, simply a “best fighters from any weight class” list. It’s like when you have a guy that is physically strong (as far as lifting weights). If you have a 200 lbs guy that can bench 300 lbs, or a 130 lbs guy that can bench 230 lbs. Literally the 200lbs guy is stronger because he can in fact lift more weight, but the 130 lbs guy is “pound for pound” the stronger guy. Basically, if the smaller guy were the same size as the bigger guy, and was able to bench at the same ratio to his body size, that would be well over 300 lbs.
I look at fighters the same way when considering p4p. If X fighter fought X fighter at equal size, who would win? So in essence, p4p becomes a “who’s the best fighter at any weight class” discussion. When a fighter like A. Silva steps up to face larger opponents and wins, that helps his standing at a p4p because he is actually facing off against some of the competition at another weight class. If he were to hold a title at both 205 and 185 (not saying that would happen) that would make a very strong case for him as best p4p. Just like if Fedor were to sign with the UFC clean out the HW division there, then cut down to 205 (which I honestly think he could do, if he wanted) and clean out that division, it would make a very strong case for him being P4P best.
Pound for pound just means that a fighter is the best fighter regardless of weight. Meaning that if you shrunk a guy or grew a guy he’d beat whoever he faced. It doesn’t mean you have to actually fight at different weight classes.
I didn’t mean to imply in my comment that it was necessary to fight at different weight classes to qualify for a top p4p ranking.
didn’t think you did Justin I didn’t see your comment until after I posted since I went to post at the same time and got distracted before I hit submit haha
haha, no worries, I just wanted to make that clarification for anyone that may come after as well, since it wasn’t in the original comment.
Justin and CHris L,
yeah i totally get what you guys are saying. I think i don’t like the term “p4p” because it should be “the best fighter in the world”. I’m taking that term literally and imo “pound for pound” best fighter in the world is a dude who like i said, dominates his weight class, goes up or down, and dominates that weight class as well. Cutting weight, gaining weight, hence, p4p.
The title i use is simple. “the best fighter in the world”. IMO this guy would be the most dominant,exciting,well rounded and talented”.
Thanks though, i hear that a lot and really wonder what people are saying.
Torres is my boy and imo he’s definately on this “p4p” best list.
The term P4P dates back to the 50’s man when “sugar” ray robinson was killing guys. Its been used ever since and has realy come in to affect with MMA lately. Just to answer your question on why its called p4p jazz.
It seems like this topic has been discussed heavily already but I thought id give you some examples that always have me drooling. Imagine if Randy was 6′5 and 250-260 the fight he would of had with lesnar. Or if GSP was 6′2 with his same frame, boy what he could do to some LHW.
FR and I typically have this discussion every time he’s tried to come up a w/ a P4P list. I personally think it’s pointless to try and rank P4P from 1-10 since the guys can’t really fight w/o giving up some sort of advantage, I prefer just listing the top ten fighters really. That said, Torres is easily on that list of guys.
P4P, put them in whatever order you wish, but it is rather clear imo
In this specific alphabetical (by first name) order
Anderson Silva, Fedor, GSP, Lyoto Machida, Miguel Torres, put them where you want in terms of 1,2,3 etc
and ya Chrisl we have had discussions about this P4P thingy
Torres…Garcia…Yahya…Paxaio so many of these guys are capable of an amazing fight. I think this is the first big card for the new “Rogue Joint” anybody know when and where weigh ins will be?
Haven’t heard anything on the WEC 42 weigh-ins yet. Obviously they’ll be on the 8th and I’d suspect they’ll be at the Joint or somewhere else at the Hard Rock but nothing’s official yet.
@ Kris,
Thanks(2x).
House is going back up soon and We are finally getting back out there to check out the school. I figured Saturday too and since its the travel day I am kind of nervous as to how/where it will time out. No Doubt is listed for the 7th so maybe it will be inside the New Joint.
Very excited about this line up to see the wins of Miguel Torres, Lenord Garcia, Danny Castillo, Markis Hicks, and Joseph Benavidez take place LIVE… all of these guy bring true fight to the game!!!!
I will be in Vegas when this fight is going on. Never been to a fight live. Anyone know where I should try to get tickets (what section) to have a decent seat?