UFC 106 Likely for November 21 at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas
According to the Nevada State Athletic Commission’s official calendar, UFC 106 is likely to take place on November 21 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas.
Fanhouse’s Mike Chiappetta speculates that the pay-per-view event could be headlined by the winner of one of UFC 100’s two title bouts between heavyweights Brock Lesnar and Frank Mir and welterweights Georges St-Pierre and Thiago Alves or Vitor Belfort’s UFC return against middleweight title-holder Anderson Silva.
Additionally, the promotion is planning to hold its December 5 Finale for The Ultimate Fighter 10: Heavyweights at The Pearl at The Palms, a venue which could accommodate just 1,800 fans to possibly see Kimbo Slice’s official UFC debut.
Not yet listed on the NSAC event schedule is a date and venue for the UFC’s traditional year-end event, which will take place in Las Vegas on either December 19 or January 2 (a December 26 event is not expected as weigh-ins would have to take place on Christmas day).
Stay tuned to MMAFrenzy.com for the latest UFC news and UFC rumors.
Updated at 9:30pm ET on June 23, 2009 to reflect that the November 21 event is Las Vegas is expected to be UFC 106, with UFC 105 taking place one week earlier on November 14 in the UK.
Tags: Anderson Silva, Brock Lesnar, Frank Mir, Georges St. Pierre, Thiago Alves, Vitor Belfort
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If that’s enough time for Mir/Lesnar/Georges/Alves to fight again, it would be enough time for Bisping or Hendo since they are one the same card in July. So if Anderson Silva is going to defend his title in November, I think it should be against the winner of the Bisping/Hendo fight and not against Vitor. I don’t think for a second that Vitor is worthy of an immidiate title shot. I think at the very most generous of rankings, Vitor would fall into the #3 middleweight contender slot behind the Bisping/Hendo winner and the Marquardt/Maia winner. That still is being very generous.
I couldn’t agree more JEROD. Vitor coming back would be great for the mw division but like you said dude. He imho isn’t worthy of immediately challenging for the title. Especially when you have a dude like maia who’s pretty much cleaning out the top of the div. As for Hendo and Bisping being #1, i believe hendo should get a shot if he beats bisping, but if bisping wins he should get the number 2 or 3 guy to decide the #1 slot because he also isn’t deserving just yet. I’d like to see vitor vs wanderlei, or vitor vs sonnen.
I don’t think that it will be enough time for the fighters fighting @ ufc 100 to heal up and have a good training camp by nov. Sounds like since all the title are up for grabs someone is going to have to make a kuik turn around and fill the main event slot.
Neither is Shogun, but he’s got his shot…
Shogun accepted the opportunity to fight for the title… Rampage turned it down, Lyoto just destroyed Rashad, Griffin signed a bout with Anderson Silva, Luiz Cane isn’t ready, Liddell lost to Shogun, Wanderlei and Franklin just went through a war.. So hey it was offered to Shogun and he said ya, I don’t blame him for that what so ever… thats my opionin cheers
Yeah, i was gonna say, who else is there??
If Vitor beats Jorge Santigo then he definitely is worthy of a immediate shot i mean he did Beat Linland who was considered the 2nd best Middleweight in MMA before the defeat.
Also it would be a huge deal as everyone loves Vitor
um quick question, just wondering on what “list” you saw Matt Lindland on that he was ranked #2 in the world? because (if memory serves me right he hasn’t been #2 in the world in like forever)Affliction II was held on 1~24~09 I do believe personally in the MW division @ that time Gergard Mousasi might have been the consensus #2 or possibly Hendo or Nate…… No one really has talked about LinLand being #2 except for Affliction making note of it, that he was #2 when he fought Fedor… And the WAMMA rankings are just retarded F~WAMMA… Anyways just was wondering have a wonderful day…
Vitor Belfort does NOT deserve a shot at Anderson Silva right off the bat in his first fight back to the UFC. I would understand it if they gave him Silva though because he has cleaned out the division and he’s most likely going to be defending his title in rematches against guys he’s already beaten so Belfort-Silva would be something exciting and highly anticipated.
did Dana say he would put Vitor on the “fast track” to the title or automatic shot just a question Marvel?
i’m just going by the article above that says Belfort’s return could be against A. Silva at UFC 105, i can’t say if Dana said this or not, but if it were to happen, i don’t feel that Belfort should get a shot right away
righton, I wasn’t attacking you fyi (not that you thought that) cheers
cheers buddy
Dana mentioned bringing Vitor back to fight Anderson during the TUF finale,if you’re watching it again you’ll probably see it.
I think if Thiago wins we could see him fight Swick or Sitch on this card. But if GSP wins i think they might make him wait till early 2010 to fight Anderson after hes fought bisping/hendo winner. I think Dana wants to use Anderson’s remaining fights as wisely as he can and make them all big ticket fights. So unfortunately I dont see Maia or Nate being relevant right now, or for a while. I can see the the winner of thier bout fighting for a vacant MW title if anderson retires like he sais hes going to.
I understand what you guys mean MK4 and CARLS,
Maia and marquardt are sort of in limbo right now because anderson is about to fight forrest and vitor is coming back with wandy as well. Unfortunately for maia, it isn’t always who deserves a shot, especially when fighting silva, “the p4p best” who’s coming off 2 boring ass fights with cote and leites. If the UFC has to, they will make sure anderson’s next title defense will be “huge” and properly hyped and vitor will be better for that than maia.
IMHO Anderson SIlva has a couple of more fights before he retires if he truly wants to prove he’s the p4p best in the world. He’s got to beat forrest, fight a champion and beat that champion like gsp did and completely finish off the remaining top guys @ mw like maia, vitor and even wandy or hendo. Then, he should retire.
I have a question for the collective.
How many fights should the returning Vitor Belfort have to win, and win convincingly, in order to earn a MW title fight?
Of course the UFC might make the point moot by handing Belfort a fast-tracked undeserved title shot, like they did with Brock Lesnar, but assuming for the sake of the argument that they don’t then how many fights/wins does Belfort need? And against who?
Should he get the winner or the loser of Hendo/Bisping? Someone at the level of Marquardt or Maia? Or maybe something in a lower gear, like at the Chael Sonnen level?
Just curious…
Can we stop saying that Lesnar’s shot was undeserved, since he stopped it convincingly? That proves it was deserved. If he finishes off Mir also, will it then finally be deserved or will you still carry on this crusade that [insert favorite heavyweight here] should have had that shot?
Is it possible that Dana and Joe Silva know more about MMA than you?
but whos to say that Belfort isnt the same situation….i bet you that Belfort could lose to Mir, and win a decision over Heath Herring in the same night!
dbiz, you’ve posted a lot of really well-thought out opinions which I have a lot of respect for. Being a Brock Lesnar defender and/or apologist isn’t one of them. If you’re fine with the guy being the UFC HW champ, thats your right. I have an issue with it, and I bet a lot of other MMA fans do to. If you’re asking me to not post on the Brock Lesnar issue again, then thats fine. I’m new here and am not trying to start ay beef with anyone, and I respect your tenure here.
Just don’t ask me to go out and buy a DeathClutch t-shirt and accept this sideshow act as legitimate until he’s paid his dues and earned his spot, not had it handed to him by a promoter with dollar signs in his eyes and a matchmaker that didn’t have the guts to tell his boss that giving a ex-pro wrestler with a couple fights a title match was bad for the sport…
Brock Lesnar got a title shot right away after just one win over Herring simply because he’s a big name. He did not deserve a shot and for sure did not earn his shot. Even though he finished Couture who is 45 or 46 years old with little to zero chin left,it doesn’t mean he deserved a shot.
Belfort for sure does NOT deserve a shot at Silva right away either. Look at Carlos Condit who was the WEC champ, he didn’t get a shot right away AND he ATLEAST was a CHAMPION so he did have an argument for getting a shot,but he didn’t. AND look at Demian Maia who cleaned house more than anyone at 185 and the guys still does not get a shot. Belfort beat Matt Lindlan, who yeah was considered a top 185′er BUT COME ON, THE GUY IS OLD AS HELL. Belfort hasn’t done anything special to deserve a shot.
It’s very simple, Brock Lesnar got a shot at Couture ONLY because he’s very famous..sort of AND it just made for a lot of hype,that’s it,that’s all. He beat Couture because he’s old as hell AND Brock is a huge guy,that’s the only reason he won, BUT when he faces a guy like Fedor or even Shane Carwin, beleive that he will get knocked out.
brock got the shot because he beat the number 1 contender at the time who was herring. as far as I know if a fighter beats the number 1 contender, then that fighter is the new number 1 contender and gets the title shot. at least thats the way it should work.
vitor should get a top 5 guy whether it be maia, marquardt, hendo, or bisping before a title shot. however if hendo beats bisping, and marquardt beats maia, who wants to see either of them rematch with anderson? thats where vitor would be the choice. however even if maia wins, he will have to get the bisping-hendo loser and beat them, and then probably beat another top guy before he gets a title shot. he has to beat his next opponents by using his stand up and not his insanely sick jiu jitsu game, because leites screwed up the chance for any jiu jitsu guy getting a shot at the champion for at least a year maybe two.
Well put bigchris2328,
I hella agree dude. Leites totally messed it up for ALL the jitz dudes @ mw which is very unfortunate because i know damian maia could challenge silva on the ground more than anyone could. He and the rest of the mw div shouldn’t be punished by all these fighters that “go gay” against anderson silva.
bigchris
How do you figure that Herring was the #1 contender?
If beating Heath Herring is the criteria for a UFC HW title shot, Lord help us all, then shouldn’t Jake O’Brien [if memory serves] been given a shot after he humiliated and exposed the Texas Crazy Horse for not having a clue about sprawl and brawl a few years back during their bout when Herring first entered the UFC? If I recall Herring spent 3 rounds on his back, staring up at the arena lights and trying to figure out how to solve the mysteries of the double leg takedown, which is something usually taught in middle school wrestling programs.
Also, I’m not sure if Herring was actually the number one contender at the time Lesnar beat him. Does anyone have anything definitive on that, one way or another?
Finally, bigchris2328, I’m not trying to give you a hard time about this, I’m just trying to point how just how ridiculous this Lesnar HW championship situation is, and how damaging it can be to the sport later on. UFC contenders need to EARN title matches IN THE CAGE, not in college regardless of how well they did, not at WrestleMania, and not because they might be worth higher ratings or better PPV buy rates.
And proposing that Lesnar somehow “deserved” the title shot because he beat a champion 15 years older and 50+ pounds lighter simply isn’t going to fly with some MMA enthusiasts, particularly those that put the longterm integrity of the sport ahead of its short-term popularity…
jcohl
Well said.I also like and agree with your response to dbiz above.
Beating Heath Herring was Big Nog’s criteria for a HW title shot. Beating Brock was Frank Mir’s criteria. And just to respond to something you said earlier, you and MK4 have setup Randy as some sort of straw man opponent for Mir when he won the belt, but the fact is he had the belt. Brock still had to beat Randy to become the champion, the belt wasn’t just handed to him. I doubt that if any other fighter had faced Randy and beat him you would be trying to say that he was handed the belt based on the fact that Randy was an inferior opponent, so don’t use that as an argument here.
If you want to talk about someone getting handed the belt, lets look at Randy instead. How does getting knocked out by Chuck Liddell at 205 and “retiring” for a year qualify anyone for a shot at the heavyweight belt?
On the Vitor issue, if he gets one win in the UFC and then a title shot, I wouldn’t compare that to Lesnar, but more like Rampage and A. Silva who came in and got one win and then a title shot, based on what they had already done in their career.
i totally agree….finally someone calls it like it really is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No fighter bashing. -Justin
Actually,that doesn’t even matter.Can you name another fighter that made it into the UFC after 1 fight?Any fighters that make it to the big show now are either established in another organization or come from ‘The Ultimate Fighter’.The TUF contestants have to fight 4 times to win the show which is how many fights the UFC Heavyweight Champion has in total.You don’t see anything wrong with that?
Sry,that comment was directed at bigchris as well.
It wasn’t like they gave him a can for his first fight out though, they gave him a stern test, that I think he would have passed without the Maz interfering.