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		<title>By: Vinz_Clortho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinz_Clortho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man I hope Guida has been doing nothing but training strikes and TKO ! ! ! ! 

Guy has the heart of a champion time to get some training to back that up!

Guida by t-bag submission second round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man I hope Guida has been doing nothing but training strikes and TKO ! ! ! ! </p>
<p>Guy has the heart of a champion time to get some training to back that up!</p>
<p>Guida by t-bag submission second round.</p>
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		<title>By: jcohl</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a follow-up to the LW issue if its OK.

Is it also possible that the LW&#039;s suffer from a similiar situation as the HW&#039;s, in that the best all-around athletes in a given weight range, such as the HW&#039;s and football, are engaging in other athletic pursuits, like boxing, more traditional to their size?
Maybe the break-out LW we&#039;re all looking for, who ideally would have quality stand-up, take-downs, cardio,and submissions is boxing in some city gym or training at a South Florida tennis camp? Could the LW of tomorrow [who we need today] be running track somewhere? 
From what I understand most LW&#039;s walk-around weight is maybe 170? At 170 you have athletes pursuing track, boxing, tennis, basketball, la crosse, even hockey and on occasion baseball. That doesn&#039;t even include swimming, diving, winter sports, extreme sports, and so on.
How the Hell can the sport of MMA get a 170 pound shortstop off of the baseball diamond, or even a 165 pound platform diver or swimmer out of the pool and into the Octagon to compete at 155?

Also, in terms of MMA, is it possible wrestlers dominate certain weight classes because statistically you&#039;d probably find a larger number of competitive athletes at that weight class that essentailly have nowhere to go after college, save coaching? I know there are the World and Pan Am games, AAU, various submission wrestling pursuits [ADCC, NAGA], and of course the Olympics, but for most wrestlers life after college is a search to make a living while trying to deal with the still-burning desire to compete.

I&#039;m not saying its necessarily a good or bad thing, I&#039;m just saying it seems to me that a LOT of these guys wind up at 155, like Jazzkok points out, and not always for the betterment of the division. Maybe, just maybe if more tae kwon do, aikido, judo, and karate schools pushed MMA, particularly for their smaller athletes, the wrestler hammerlock [sorry, bad joke] on the LW division would be broken...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a follow-up to the LW issue if its OK.</p>
<p>Is it also possible that the LW&#8217;s suffer from a similiar situation as the HW&#8217;s, in that the best all-around athletes in a given weight range, such as the HW&#8217;s and football, are engaging in other athletic pursuits, like boxing, more traditional to their size?<br />
Maybe the break-out LW we&#8217;re all looking for, who ideally would have quality stand-up, take-downs, cardio,and submissions is boxing in some city gym or training at a South Florida tennis camp? Could the LW of tomorrow [who we need today] be running track somewhere?<br />
From what I understand most LW&#8217;s walk-around weight is maybe 170? At 170 you have athletes pursuing track, boxing, tennis, basketball, la crosse, even hockey and on occasion baseball. That doesn&#8217;t even include swimming, diving, winter sports, extreme sports, and so on.<br />
How the Hell can the sport of MMA get a 170 pound shortstop off of the baseball diamond, or even a 165 pound platform diver or swimmer out of the pool and into the Octagon to compete at 155?</p>
<p>Also, in terms of MMA, is it possible wrestlers dominate certain weight classes because statistically you&#8217;d probably find a larger number of competitive athletes at that weight class that essentailly have nowhere to go after college, save coaching? I know there are the World and Pan Am games, AAU, various submission wrestling pursuits [ADCC, NAGA], and of course the Olympics, but for most wrestlers life after college is a search to make a living while trying to deal with the still-burning desire to compete.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying its necessarily a good or bad thing, I&#8217;m just saying it seems to me that a LOT of these guys wind up at 155, like Jazzkok points out, and not always for the betterment of the division. Maybe, just maybe if more tae kwon do, aikido, judo, and karate schools pushed MMA, particularly for their smaller athletes, the wrestler hammerlock [sorry, bad joke] on the LW division would be broken&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: windmiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>windmiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diego Sanchez looks like he has some sort of muscle eating rabies or something? it is scary!IMO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diego Sanchez looks like he has some sort of muscle eating rabies or something? it is scary!IMO</p>
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		<title>By: carls</title>
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		<dc:creator>carls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realy?</p>
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		<title>By: huertarogerhuerta</title>
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		<dc:creator>huertarogerhuerta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought huerta was shooting TEKKEN THE MOVIE and thats y he hasnt gotten the last fight out of the way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought huerta was shooting TEKKEN THE MOVIE and thats y he hasnt gotten the last fight out of the way</p>
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		<title>By: carls</title>
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		<dc:creator>carls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats a good point about the LW div right now jazz, all the top talent are wrestlers even Griffon if you put him in there.  I think Gray Maynard has the most potential right now out of all of them.  The guy had two fights going into TUF and was whuppin Diaz untill he got cought.  The guy went from being a complete brawler to a boxer in a year.(see fight versus Siver08 to fight with miller09)  He shut down Edgar when he was undefeated then beat Rich Clementi when he was red hot and on a 6 fight win streak and the same for miller who was on a 8 fight streak.  At the rate he is going you cant hide the #1 contender shot from him forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats a good point about the LW div right now jazz, all the top talent are wrestlers even Griffon if you put him in there.  I think Gray Maynard has the most potential right now out of all of them.  The guy had two fights going into TUF and was whuppin Diaz untill he got cought.  The guy went from being a complete brawler to a boxer in a year.(see fight versus Siver08 to fight with miller09)  He shut down Edgar when he was undefeated then beat Rich Clementi when he was red hot and on a 6 fight win streak and the same for miller who was on a 8 fight streak.  At the rate he is going you cant hide the #1 contender shot from him forever.</p>
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		<title>By: carls</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well dont expect a finish from Guida anyway you shake it.  its just not gonna happen, plus Diego has a solid chin to boot.  Good call on it ending up like the stevenson bout.  That could happen but i feel Joe has better boxing and a better chin than guida so Sanchez could finish him there.  BUT we just had two showings of stand-up like that from Sanchez.  And with the way Kenny beat Joe compared to the way Sanchez beat him, he has a lot to prove.  So im with you marvel he needs to land some shots on the feet take him down and pound him out to realy make an impression.  Cause as weve seen its not easy putting guida away.
And if he could do it, hed have a serious case for the #1 contender shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well dont expect a finish from Guida anyway you shake it.  its just not gonna happen, plus Diego has a solid chin to boot.  Good call on it ending up like the stevenson bout.  That could happen but i feel Joe has better boxing and a better chin than guida so Sanchez could finish him there.  BUT we just had two showings of stand-up like that from Sanchez.  And with the way Kenny beat Joe compared to the way Sanchez beat him, he has a lot to prove.  So im with you marvel he needs to land some shots on the feet take him down and pound him out to realy make an impression.  Cause as weve seen its not easy putting guida away.<br />
And if he could do it, hed have a serious case for the #1 contender shot.</p>
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		<title>By: carls</title>
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		<dc:creator>carls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK good.  I hold you In high regards FR702 and think your one of the best posters and writers on here but that one just had me scratching my head. cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK good.  I hold you In high regards FR702 and think your one of the best posters and writers on here but that one just had me scratching my head. cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazzkok</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jcohl,

Good question dude. Well my opinion is that right now there are way too many one dimensional wrestlers who are trying to improve their overall game. I think that&#039;s the reason no one fighter stands out(besides florian). 

Maynard,Edgar,Sherk,guida, these are all &quot;top&quot; lw&#039;s @ the moment and what do they all have in common? Ding ding ding, wrestling! Other than that, what else stands out about these dudes? Maynard and edgar have decent stand up but when was the last time we saw a sub or ko from them? And these are the dudes who everyone thinks are @ the top. They all sort of cancel eachother out because they are going out there to do the same thing. UNtil we see someone who can do it all like florian and of course &quot;the prodigy&quot;, the lw division will stay as it is...blah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jcohl,</p>
<p>Good question dude. Well my opinion is that right now there are way too many one dimensional wrestlers who are trying to improve their overall game. I think that&#8217;s the reason no one fighter stands out(besides florian). </p>
<p>Maynard,Edgar,Sherk,guida, these are all &#8220;top&#8221; lw&#8217;s @ the moment and what do they all have in common? Ding ding ding, wrestling! Other than that, what else stands out about these dudes? Maynard and edgar have decent stand up but when was the last time we saw a sub or ko from them? And these are the dudes who everyone thinks are @ the top. They all sort of cancel eachother out because they are going out there to do the same thing. UNtil we see someone who can do it all like florian and of course &#8220;the prodigy&#8221;, the lw division will stay as it is&#8230;blah.</p>
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		<title>By: marvelknight4</title>
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		<dc:creator>marvelknight4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i honestly feel that most of the contenders at 155 are evenly matched and they all equally rock, the only one who has &quot;impressed&quot; and really does stand out is Kenny Florian. Kenny Florian beat Roger Huerta,Joe Stevenson,Joe Lauzon and Din Thomas. He has cleaned out this division more than anyone else including BJ Penn because Penn has only defeated &quot;Joe Dady&quot;,Sean Sherk And Jens Pulver who is at his end.

But, like you pointed out, i feel that if BJ Penn keeps himself in shape and stays concentrated, i honeslty feel that he can hold the title for a very long time. Now i&#039;m not the biggest Penn fan,but to be quite honest, he&#039;s a complete fighter who take out anyone at 155, BUT he does tend to slack off in training and has a reputation to not have good cardio which has cost him in the past and can certainly cost him his title in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i honestly feel that most of the contenders at 155 are evenly matched and they all equally rock, the only one who has &#8220;impressed&#8221; and really does stand out is Kenny Florian. Kenny Florian beat Roger Huerta,Joe Stevenson,Joe Lauzon and Din Thomas. He has cleaned out this division more than anyone else including BJ Penn because Penn has only defeated &#8220;Joe Dady&#8221;,Sean Sherk And Jens Pulver who is at his end.</p>
<p>But, like you pointed out, i feel that if BJ Penn keeps himself in shape and stays concentrated, i honeslty feel that he can hold the title for a very long time. Now i&#8217;m not the biggest Penn fan,but to be quite honest, he&#8217;s a complete fighter who take out anyone at 155, BUT he does tend to slack off in training and has a reputation to not have good cardio which has cost him in the past and can certainly cost him his title in the future.</p>
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