Comments on: Despite 0-2 Start and Near-.500 Record, Mostapha Al-Turk to Fight Again in UFC http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/ UFC and MMA News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:49:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: jcohl http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/#comment-99538 jcohl Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:19:45 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10700#comment-99538 Thanks for the clarification. It sounds from what you're saying like Werdum basically talked himself out of a job. Too bad for the UFC HW division... Thanks for the clarification. It sounds from what you’re saying like Werdum basically talked himself out of a job.
Too bad for the UFC HW division…

]]> By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/#comment-99536 Justin Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:08:14 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10700#comment-99536 I sort of responded to this <a href="http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/#comment-99535" rel="nofollow">here</a> before I read your comment. I sort of responded to this here before I read your comment.

]]> By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/#comment-99535 Justin Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:06:13 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10700#comment-99535 I think that shortly before the Dos Santos fight Werdum had gotten a raise, and then after that fight Dana wanted to take some of that back. Werdum wouldn't back down on his asking price, I guess he thought he could get the same or more from Affliction. He got the boot, then called up T~Shirt guy and said, "Hey, I'd like to fight for you guys and I want to make this much money." Then T~Shirt guy said, "That's nice, good luck with that," and moved on without him. I think that shortly before the Dos Santos fight Werdum had gotten a raise, and then after that fight Dana wanted to take some of that back. Werdum wouldn’t back down on his asking price, I guess he thought he could get the same or more from Affliction. He got the boot, then called up T~Shirt guy and said, “Hey, I’d like to fight for you guys and I want to make this much money.” Then T~Shirt guy said, “That’s nice, good luck with that,” and moved on without him.

]]> By: carls http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/#comment-99521 carls Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:33:41 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10700#comment-99521 Good call on the Gonzaga matchup, that dude needs a win and hes one of the bigger names in the WH div. so it could be a good comeback fight for him. Ya gonzaga by decapitation Good call on the Gonzaga matchup, that dude needs a win and hes one of the bigger names in the WH div. so it could be a good comeback fight for him. Ya gonzaga by decapitation

]]> By: jcohl http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/#comment-99520 jcohl Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:59:56 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10700#comment-99520 I'm certainly not trying to fighter-bash here, or start any unfounded rumors, but sometimes in other pro sports when strange decisions come down, or a talented player gets released for what seems like a weird reason and a less talented player is retained, commentators and other media-types refer to it as a "citizenship" issue, by which they usually mean the athlete in question has some sort of personal and/or attitude problem, or maybe an undisclosed injury, or something of that nature. As this relates to Werdum, maybe there was some sort of legitimate "behind-the-scenes" issue that on the surface appeared unreasonable but had some basis in fact for the promotion. Or maybe this is really all about money, but I can't recall reading about Werdum asking for some sort of insane contract, and I would think that in order to promote/market a fighter of Werdum's caliber all that need be done would be to place his damn name on the media materials in clear letters... I’m certainly not trying to fighter-bash here, or start any unfounded rumors, but sometimes in other pro sports when strange decisions come down, or a talented player gets released for what seems like a weird reason and a less talented player is retained, commentators and other media-types refer to it as a “citizenship” issue, by which they usually mean the athlete in question has some sort of personal and/or attitude problem, or maybe an undisclosed injury, or something of that nature.
As this relates to Werdum, maybe there was some sort of legitimate “behind-the-scenes” issue that on the surface appeared unreasonable but had some basis in fact for the promotion. Or maybe this is really all about money, but I can’t recall reading about Werdum asking for some sort of insane contract, and I would think that in order to promote/market a fighter of Werdum’s caliber all that need be done would be to place his damn name on the media materials in clear letters…

]]> By: marvelknight4 http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/#comment-99519 marvelknight4 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:56:22 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10700#comment-99519 I say give Al-Turk Gabriel Gonzaga. They are both coming off a loss and hey...Gonzaga won't poke you in the eye Al-Turk, but he can problably right kick "Cro-cop" your ass. I say give Al-Turk Gabriel Gonzaga. They are both coming off a loss and hey…Gonzaga won’t poke you in the eye Al-Turk, but he can problably right kick “Cro-cop” your ass.

]]> By: marvelknight4 http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/#comment-99518 marvelknight4 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:50:07 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10700#comment-99518 dude your right, i didn't even think of those things. And i agree with you about Roch Clemeti, he's a good fighter with lots of potential and they simply let him go too soon AND Werdum was problably asking for more money than he deserves, but thanks for clearing that up for me. dude your right, i didn’t even think of those things. And i agree with you about Roch Clemeti, he’s a good fighter with lots of potential and they simply let him go too soon AND Werdum was problably asking for more money than he deserves, but thanks for clearing that up for me.

]]> By: carls http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/#comment-99517 carls Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:45:41 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10700#comment-99517 I actually think that Dana saw Werdum as a problem and Dos Santos fixed it. Cause he was a due for a title shot at some time but hes a boring hard to market fighter. Thats why lesnar got the shot before him. And when asked why he got cut from the UFC dana said "because he lost two fights" arlovski like 2 years ago and now Dos santos. Ya like that makes sense. Then supposedly Affliction was gonna pick him up but didnt, so either companies arent interested in him from a promotional standpoint or hes asking for to much money. Cause i herd that after the loss to Junior Dana wanted to renegotiate werdums contract(obviously pay him less)next thing you know hes gone. The cut i was most dissapointed about was Rich clementi. Hell he actually made Gray Maynard look like an average fighter. I actually think that Dana saw Werdum as a problem and Dos Santos fixed it. Cause he was a due for a title shot at some time but hes a boring hard to market fighter. Thats why lesnar got the shot before him. And when asked why he got cut from the UFC dana said “because he lost two fights” arlovski like 2 years ago and now Dos santos. Ya like that makes sense. Then supposedly Affliction was gonna pick him up but didnt, so either companies arent interested in him from a promotional standpoint or hes asking for to much money. Cause i herd that after the loss to Junior Dana wanted to renegotiate werdums contract(obviously pay him less)next thing you know hes gone. The cut i was most dissapointed about was Rich clementi. Hell he actually made Gray Maynard look like an average fighter.

]]> By: marvelknight4 http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/#comment-99516 marvelknight4 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:07:31 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10700#comment-99516 dude, i usually agree with you on things, but Werdum deserved to get cut, did you see how he just dropped his head way before the punch landed on him(dos santos) AND his fight against Vera was stopped WAY to early, he didn't land one punch on Vera, as far as the Gonzaga fight i'm not taking anything away from him there because it wasn't his fault that Gonzaga just dropped to the ground and quit. dude, i usually agree with you on things, but Werdum deserved to get cut, did you see how he just dropped his head way before the punch landed on him(dos santos) AND his fight against Vera was stopped WAY to early, he didn’t land one punch on Vera, as far as the Gonzaga fight i’m not taking anything away from him there because it wasn’t his fault that Gonzaga just dropped to the ground and quit.

]]> By: marvelknight4 http://mmafrenzy.com/10700/despite-0-2-start-and-near-500-record-mostapha-al-turk-to-fight-again-in-ufc/#comment-99514 marvelknight4 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:59:52 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10700#comment-99514 carls, turk, you guys have a point and i aprreciate the fact that you guys think i'm "smarter than that". I honestly was not saying that Al-Turk is great NOR that he CAN beat Couture easy, i was just saying that he just like EVERYONE else has a chance to get LUCKY like other guys in the past have. I know what you guys mean when you say he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Couture, but it honeslty was just a thought. carls, turk,

you guys have a point and i aprreciate the fact that you guys think i’m “smarter than that”. I honestly was not saying that Al-Turk is great NOR that he CAN beat Couture easy, i was just saying that he just like EVERYONE else has a chance to get LUCKY like other guys in the past have. I know what you guys mean when you say he doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Couture, but it honeslty was just a thought.

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