Comments on: Rich Franklin Outpoints Wanderlei Silva, Cain Velasquez Dominates Cheick Kongo at UFC 99 http://mmafrenzy.com/10666/rich-franklin-outpoints-wanderlei-silva-cain-velasquez-dominates-cheick-kongo-at-ufc-99/ UFC and MMA News Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:41:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/10666/rich-franklin-outpoints-wanderlei-silva-cain-velasquez-dominates-cheick-kongo-at-ufc-99/#comment-99337 Justin Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:33:13 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10666#comment-99337 While I would love to see extra rounds in certain fights between certain competitors even when there is not title on the line, I have to consider what the possible unintended consequences might be. Those include less fights on a card, less chances to see under card firghts promoted to TV, and potentially boring fights going on longer than they should. While I would love to see extra rounds in certain fights between certain competitors even when there is not title on the line, I have to consider what the possible unintended consequences might be. Those include less fights on a card, less chances to see under card firghts promoted to TV, and potentially boring fights going on longer than they should.

]]> By: OnlyTrue1 http://mmafrenzy.com/10666/rich-franklin-outpoints-wanderlei-silva-cain-velasquez-dominates-cheick-kongo-at-ufc-99/#comment-99332 OnlyTrue1 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:30:35 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10666#comment-99332 Great Fights I knew Rich would come out on top but boooy oooohhh boooy was it barely. Wandy is the type of guy you just gotta love, no matter what!! He gets it, and comes with it every time. My boy Kongo got dominated. Swick prove Killa b is just a silly nickname for a fighter and no real treat. Davis I thought would have pulled this one off buuut hey. Great fights. Great Fights

I knew Rich would come out on top but boooy oooohhh boooy was it barely. Wandy is the type of guy you just gotta love, no matter what!! He gets it, and comes with it every time.
My boy Kongo got dominated.
Swick prove Killa b is just a silly nickname for a fighter and no real treat.
Davis I thought would have pulled this one off buuut hey.

Great fights.

]]> By: russiandoeboi http://mmafrenzy.com/10666/rich-franklin-outpoints-wanderlei-silva-cain-velasquez-dominates-cheick-kongo-at-ufc-99/#comment-99322 russiandoeboi Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:55:55 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10666#comment-99322 and those backward elbows near the end rocked. 3 rounds just because there is no belt sucks much like getting a jay walking ticket on an empty road. there needs to be at least another round or two for the top dogs like wand and franklin and those backward elbows near the end rocked.
3 rounds just because there is no belt sucks much like getting a jay walking ticket on an empty road.

there needs to be at least another round or two for the top dogs like wand and franklin

]]> By: russiandoeboi http://mmafrenzy.com/10666/rich-franklin-outpoints-wanderlei-silva-cain-velasquez-dominates-cheick-kongo-at-ufc-99/#comment-99321 russiandoeboi Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:52:16 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10666#comment-99321 franklin wandy was a high quality matchup! the comment that wand didn't look like himself.. hmmm, dunno. although he's known for going seemingly wild,it's not why he has a great record against top opponents. he's great well rounded skill and heart and conditioning and speed. i think he has slowed only very slighty he's getting older and has taken a few good lumps so. yea. still franklin is an elite 185 er. wand has had some recent losses due to not being methodical, not being washed up. i think he looked great for being intelligent and patient but still looking to close in and kill when the chance came although franklin might have been technically more slick an WAS certainly ahead on points I did feel like wand was the one who was closer to getting the kill. not just the time franklin blacked out for a sec but in general. so the scoring goes to the better scorer not the guy who seemed closer to ending it. whatever GREAT FIGHT THOUGH, and improved wanderlei who seems ready for the next poor bastard. franklin wandy was a high quality matchup!

the comment that wand didn’t look like himself..
hmmm,
dunno.
although he’s known for going seemingly wild,it’s not why he
has a great record against top opponents.

he’s great well rounded skill and heart and conditioning and speed.

i think he has slowed only very slighty he’s getting older and has taken a few good lumps so. yea.

still franklin is an elite 185 er. wand has had some recent losses due to not being methodical, not being washed up. i think he looked great for being intelligent and patient but still looking to close in and kill when the chance came

although franklin might have been technically more slick an WAS certainly ahead on points I did feel like wand was the one who was closer to getting the kill. not just the time franklin blacked out for a sec but in general.

so the scoring goes to the better scorer not the guy who seemed closer to ending it. whatever GREAT FIGHT THOUGH, and improved wanderlei who seems ready for the next poor bastard.

]]> By: timcat http://mmafrenzy.com/10666/rich-franklin-outpoints-wanderlei-silva-cain-velasquez-dominates-cheick-kongo-at-ufc-99/#comment-99267 timcat Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:59:11 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10666#comment-99267 I thought it was a draw. While Franklin won the 1st half of all 3 rounds, Silva won the 2nd half of each round. I thought it was a draw. While Franklin won the 1st half of all 3 rounds, Silva won the 2nd half of each round.

]]> By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/10666/rich-franklin-outpoints-wanderlei-silva-cain-velasquez-dominates-cheick-kongo-at-ufc-99/#comment-99250 Justin Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:53:35 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10666#comment-99250 Just to further a point: Athletes in pretty much every sport make more money from sponsors than they actually making from "playing the game". Tiger makes hundreds of millions from Nike, and only low millions in purses for winning tournaments. Michael Jordan gave his entire NBA salary to charity for several years at the end of his career, because he too made hundreds of millions from Nike and only low millions in his NBA salary. Nearly all of the money that team owners make, to go towards paying the drivers in all forms of auto racing come from sponsors, not purses for winning races. The percentage of athletes that make money from sponsors varies from sport to sport, as many non-star athletes in the "four major" sports do not get endorsement deals, but sponsors have long been a part of prize fighting and auto racing, and provide a large stream of revenue for both organizers and participants. Just to further a point: Athletes in pretty much every sport make more money from sponsors than they actually making from “playing the game”. Tiger makes hundreds of millions from Nike, and only low millions in purses for winning tournaments. Michael Jordan gave his entire NBA salary to charity for several years at the end of his career, because he too made hundreds of millions from Nike and only low millions in his NBA salary. Nearly all of the money that team owners make, to go towards paying the drivers in all forms of auto racing come from sponsors, not purses for winning races. The percentage of athletes that make money from sponsors varies from sport to sport, as many non-star athletes in the “four major” sports do not get endorsement deals, but sponsors have long been a part of prize fighting and auto racing, and provide a large stream of revenue for both organizers and participants.

]]> By: Turk http://mmafrenzy.com/10666/rich-franklin-outpoints-wanderlei-silva-cain-velasquez-dominates-cheick-kongo-at-ufc-99/#comment-99246 Turk Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:54:46 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10666#comment-99246 The only reason I said his chin is weak or "suspect' was because those punches were basically jabs not huge looping punches he did although recover rather quickly but, let Carwin, Ganzaga, or someone of that sort land a big shot and he won't be popping back up so quickly just saying. The only reason I said his chin is weak or “suspect’ was because those punches were basically jabs not huge looping punches he did although recover rather quickly but, let Carwin, Ganzaga, or someone of that sort land a big shot and he won’t be popping back up so quickly just saying.

]]> By: marvelknight4 http://mmafrenzy.com/10666/rich-franklin-outpoints-wanderlei-silva-cain-velasquez-dominates-cheick-kongo-at-ufc-99/#comment-99243 marvelknight4 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:14:33 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10666#comment-99243 When it comes to fights going to decision. I honestly agree with some of the comments above saying that the match makers are putting fights together with the least possibility of going the distance. But if you stop and think about it, some of the best fights ever i the UFC have been those that have gone to decision...Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar, Wanderlei Silva vs Chuck Liddell, Rampage vs Griffin, and if Franklin or Silva would have finished the fight i think it would not have been as exciting as it was. I do think that they should be more specific in terms of the criteria the judges are scoring the fights in. It's always great to see fights finished,but when you have fights that reach the later rounds,especially title fights, i think it makes the fights more special and helps us get a true feeling of what the fighters are truly made of. I also agree that some fighters fight more cautious now and days because of fear of losing and then being cut or released, that must for sure play a role in more fights going to decision, but i think that it also has the opposite effect because it problably makes guys want to win decisively to "impress" the "right" people. My personal opinion, i love to see guys get knocked the fu*k out,guys get submitted, BUT i don't mind the 3 or 5 round wars that make this sport the exciting sport that it is. When it comes to fights going to decision. I honestly agree with some of the comments above saying that the match makers are putting fights together with the least possibility of going the distance. But if you stop and think about it, some of the best fights ever i the UFC have been those that have gone to decision…Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar, Wanderlei Silva vs Chuck Liddell, Rampage vs Griffin, and if Franklin or Silva would have finished the fight i think it would not have been as exciting as it was. I do think that they should be more specific in terms of the criteria the judges are scoring the fights in.

It’s always great to see fights finished,but when you have fights that reach the later rounds,especially title fights, i think it makes the fights more special and helps us get a true feeling of what the fighters are truly made of.

I also agree that some fighters fight more cautious now and days because of fear of losing and then being cut or released, that must for sure play a role in more fights going to decision, but i think that it also has the opposite effect because it problably makes guys want to win decisively to “impress” the “right” people.

My personal opinion, i love to see guys get knocked the fu*k out,guys get submitted, BUT i don’t mind the 3 or 5 round wars that make this sport the exciting sport that it is.

]]> By: marvelknight4 http://mmafrenzy.com/10666/rich-franklin-outpoints-wanderlei-silva-cain-velasquez-dominates-cheick-kongo-at-ufc-99/#comment-99241 marvelknight4 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:03:46 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10666#comment-99241 turk, i agrre with you on the Kongo-Velasquez fight. Kongo's ground game does suck a$$ and if he did have better wrestling and better takedown defense he could have problably finished Velasquez after he rocked him. I too think that Velasquez is not "that" good like Kongo's $hity ground game made him look, however I do think he has a decent chin because Kongo did hit him pretty good a couple of times and Velasquez was able to recover quite quickly, but I still think a guy with better takedown defense and better wrestling than Kongo can give Velasquez some trouble. turk,

i agrre with you on the Kongo-Velasquez fight. Kongo’s ground game does suck a$$ and if he did have better wrestling and better takedown defense he could have problably finished Velasquez after he rocked him. I too think that Velasquez is not “that” good like Kongo’s $hity ground game made him look, however I do think he has a decent chin because Kongo did hit him pretty good a couple of times and Velasquez was able to recover quite quickly, but I still think a guy with better takedown defense and better wrestling than Kongo can give Velasquez some trouble.

]]> By: ryanmoney http://mmafrenzy.com/10666/rich-franklin-outpoints-wanderlei-silva-cain-velasquez-dominates-cheick-kongo-at-ufc-99/#comment-99240 ryanmoney Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:59:24 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10666#comment-99240 You cant say that his chin is good but then again you cannot say that his chin is poor. Its just a suspect chin. The thing that seems to quash the weakness of his chin is his recovery! The instant he dropped down he was shooting in or Kongo with full strength. Who cares of his chin is suspect. You cant say that his chin is good but then again you cannot say that his chin is poor.

Its just a suspect chin. The thing that seems to quash the weakness of his chin is his recovery! The instant he dropped down he was shooting in or Kongo with full strength. Who cares of his chin is suspect.

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