Comments on: Martin Kampmann Turns Down TJ Grant Fight http://mmafrenzy.com/10434/martin-kampmann-turns-down-tj-grant-fight/ UFC and MMA News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:07:36 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: chrisl http://mmafrenzy.com/10434/martin-kampmann-turns-down-tj-grant-fight/#comment-97291 chrisl Sat, 23 May 2009 00:25:51 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10434#comment-97291 Nope I meant AAAA. Term for guys who are AAA superstars but once they're in the big leagues they're ok and occasionally have a flash of brilliance but never find the consistency to be big league stars. They're better than every AAA player but just never make it at the highest level. I just meant Jardine dominates guys he's supposed to beat and occasionally picks off a elite guy but isn't consistent enough to be the champ...yet. Nope I meant AAAA. Term for guys who are AAA superstars but once they’re in the big leagues they’re ok and occasionally have a flash of brilliance but never find the consistency to be big league stars. They’re better than every AAA player but just never make it at the highest level. I just meant Jardine dominates guys he’s supposed to beat and occasionally picks off a elite guy but isn’t consistent enough to be the champ…yet.

]]> By: bigchris2328 http://mmafrenzy.com/10434/martin-kampmann-turns-down-tj-grant-fight/#comment-97290 bigchris2328 Sat, 23 May 2009 00:18:08 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10434#comment-97290 chrisl did you mean triple A? the league right under the pros? I get what your saying though and its a good reference. condit is a top 10 guy no doubt, maybe top 5, kampmann was not stunningly impressive in their fight though so I dont see why he sorta demands a top 5 guy. I say let him get a top guy give him kos or fitch and then watch kampmann realize he wasnt ready. or who knows maybe he will ko either guy and get the loser of gsp-alves. chrisl did you mean triple A? the league right under the pros? I get what your saying though and its a good reference. condit is a top 10 guy no doubt, maybe top 5, kampmann was not stunningly impressive in their fight though so I dont see why he sorta demands a top 5 guy. I say let him get a top guy give him kos or fitch and then watch kampmann realize he wasnt ready. or who knows maybe he will ko either guy and get the loser of gsp-alves.

]]> By: chrisl http://mmafrenzy.com/10434/martin-kampmann-turns-down-tj-grant-fight/#comment-97275 chrisl Fri, 22 May 2009 21:24:25 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10434#comment-97275 Cannot fault him there. Fitch couldn't really say no at the time though to be honest, Kampmann can here. Even though Condit was only the champion in the WEC he was still widely considered one of the top WW in the world, so to accept a fight against TJ Grant doesn't make the most sense. Plus Jardine actually proves why you SHOULD turn a fight down. Yeah Jardine will always have a job with the UFC but the guy has essentially become the guy for top fighters to rebound after a loss to someone else. He's a great fighter no doubt and will always notch a win against a good fighter every once in awhile but he's essentially a AAAA(baseball reference) guy. I'm not calling him a gatekeeper since he's better than that but he's not an elite 205 either. Cannot fault him there. Fitch couldn’t really say no at the time though to be honest, Kampmann can here. Even though Condit was only the champion in the WEC he was still widely considered one of the top WW in the world, so to accept a fight against TJ Grant doesn’t make the most sense.

Plus Jardine actually proves why you SHOULD turn a fight down. Yeah Jardine will always have a job with the UFC but the guy has essentially become the guy for top fighters to rebound after a loss to someone else. He’s a great fighter no doubt and will always notch a win against a good fighter every once in awhile but he’s essentially a AAAA(baseball reference) guy. I’m not calling him a gatekeeper since he’s better than that but he’s not an elite 205 either.

]]> By: Jaymz http://mmafrenzy.com/10434/martin-kampmann-turns-down-tj-grant-fight/#comment-97271 Jaymz Fri, 22 May 2009 20:05:36 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10434#comment-97271 Condit didn't look like himself in that fight,the nerves might have got to him.I think Condit would beat him if they fought again.Kampmann was not impressive at all and was lucky to get the decision.So now he's coming off a decision win and he thinks he's a title contender?If he's that good,than Grant shouldn't be a problem for him. Condit didn’t look like himself in that fight,the nerves might have got to him.I think Condit would beat him if they fought again.Kampmann was not impressive at all and was lucky to get the decision.So now he’s coming off a decision win and he thinks he’s a title contender?If he’s that good,than Grant shouldn’t be a problem for him.

]]> By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/10434/martin-kampmann-turns-down-tj-grant-fight/#comment-97268 Justin Fri, 22 May 2009 19:21:12 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10434#comment-97268 Some people might argue that Condit was a top five guy. Some people might argue that Condit was a top five guy.

]]> By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/10434/martin-kampmann-turns-down-tj-grant-fight/#comment-97267 Justin Fri, 22 May 2009 19:19:28 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10434#comment-97267 Chairman, I think the drug suspension is for 9 months. Chairman,
I think the drug suspension is for 9 months.

]]> By: bigchris2328 http://mmafrenzy.com/10434/martin-kampmann-turns-down-tj-grant-fight/#comment-97264 bigchris2328 Fri, 22 May 2009 18:14:38 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10434#comment-97264 well I see both sides on this, but he needs to be careful because he might get his wish against a top 5 or 10 guy and get his butt handed to him. more than likely he will fight kos, it seems like kos wants a fight every two months and im sure kos will beat kampmann. I dont feel like he is ready for a top 5 guy, I think hardy could ko him, and I would like to see kampmann and rumble fight, that would be a good match IMO. well I see both sides on this, but he needs to be careful because he might get his wish against a top 5 or 10 guy and get his butt handed to him. more than likely he will fight kos, it seems like kos wants a fight every two months and im sure kos will beat kampmann. I dont feel like he is ready for a top 5 guy, I think hardy could ko him, and I would like to see kampmann and rumble fight, that would be a good match IMO.

]]> By: carls http://mmafrenzy.com/10434/martin-kampmann-turns-down-tj-grant-fight/#comment-97262 carls Fri, 22 May 2009 17:50:21 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10434#comment-97262 I like the jardine theory marvel well done, although in this case i think kampan is ok in turning down the fight. He's a force at WW right now and knows that if he knocks off a top contender like swick or kos, he could be a shoe in for a "shitle tot" lol. I like the jardine theory marvel well done, although in this case i think kampan is ok in turning down the fight. He’s a force at WW right now and knows that if he knocks off a top contender like swick or kos, he could be a shoe in for a “****le tot” lol.

]]> By: marvelknight4 http://mmafrenzy.com/10434/martin-kampmann-turns-down-tj-grant-fight/#comment-97258 marvelknight4 Fri, 22 May 2009 17:14:52 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10434#comment-97258 Matin Kampmann should have taken the fight, i know he has the righ to refuse,but it doesn't look good when a guy does that, despite who he's beaten. Look at Keith Jardine, he took the fight against Houston Alexander after beating Forrest Griffin, he also felt he should have gotten a contender,but he still took the fight and got knocked out in the worst way. It hurt his ranking a little, but the UFC aprreciates guys who fight anyone and look what happened after, ever since then he's only fighting top guys. After the Alexander fight he went on to beat Liddell which made him a bigger name and earned him more respect from fans and his peers, then he fought Wanderlei Silva and Quinton Jackson, you can't fight bigger names or bigger contenders than that. So before Kampmann turns down another fight, he himself should put together a few more impressive wins before he makes anymore demands for contenders. Matin Kampmann should have taken the fight, i know he has the righ to refuse,but it doesn’t look good when a guy does that, despite who he’s beaten.

Look at Keith Jardine, he took the fight against Houston Alexander after beating Forrest Griffin, he also felt he should have gotten a contender,but he still took the fight and got knocked out in the worst way. It hurt his ranking a little, but the UFC aprreciates guys who fight anyone and look what happened after, ever since then he’s only fighting top guys. After the Alexander fight he went on to beat Liddell which made him a bigger name and earned him more respect from fans and his peers, then he fought Wanderlei Silva and Quinton Jackson, you can’t fight bigger names or bigger contenders than that.

So before Kampmann turns down another fight, he himself should put together a few more impressive wins before he makes anymore demands for contenders.

]]> By: Chairman395 http://mmafrenzy.com/10434/martin-kampmann-turns-down-tj-grant-fight/#comment-97251 Chairman395 Fri, 22 May 2009 16:00:01 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10434#comment-97251 I agree with having him fight Karo. That would be a good with Kampmann being favored IMO at this point. When is the drug suspension over? I agree with having him fight Karo. That would be a good with Kampmann being favored IMO at this point. When is the drug suspension over?

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