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“Rampage” and Evans-Machida Winner Likely Coaches for The Ultimate Fighter 10

Posted by Kris Karkoski on May 13, 2009 at 10:25 pm ET62 Comments
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Quinton Jackson

Former UFC light heavyweight champion and The Ultimate Fighter 7 coach Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and the winner of next weekend’s UFC 98 main event between current title-holder Rashad Evans and challenger Lyoto Machida are likely to be coaches on the tenth season of The Ultimate Fighter.

Rumors of Jackson’s second coaching stint on the reality show began circulating over the weekend, with Tiki Ghosn providing some confirmation to the news on Monday, revealing in an interview on Tapout Radio that he’d be the striking coach for Team Rampage.

In a tweet published earlier this evening Jackson said he wasn’t “100% sure” he’d be coaching the next season of TUF.

Though there has not yet been any confirmation, it’s highly likely that the winner of next Saturday’s matchup between Evans and Machida will fill the vacancy opposite “Rampage,” particularly if Evans, who had a verbal showdown with Jackson at UFC 96 in March, is victorious.

A casting call for The Ultimate Fighter 10 was held in April, with 250 middleweight, light heavyweight, and heavyweight fighters trying out in Seattle for a spot on the show. Whether all three weight classes will be featured on the upcoming season is not yet known, but should be learned when filming begins in the coming weeks.

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  • OnlyTrue1 says:

    I’m surprised Rampage even wants to coach again being that he sucked at it.. He made a good team mate and bonded with the guys but as far as coaching and giving helpful coaching tips on the side of the octagon he was horrible at that IMO.

  • Jerod says:

    Aaah, I don’t like that the deepest, most competitive weight class’s title will sit idle for 6+ months

  • josh says:

    If anyone thinks ultimate is about the coaching is wrong. Rampage is entertaining and that’s there first focus. Let’s hope it’s Evans. Don’t want to spend all season having someone translate for machida.

  • Chy says:

    There is a mistake in the headline of this topic, I suppose. It should be

    “Rampage” and Evans-Machida Winner Likely Coaches for The Ultimate Fighter 10

    ;)

  • Coach says:

    Come on stop having title holders as coaches especially in such a stacked division. I have already seen Rampage as a coach. I just want to see him fight. Lightweight title won’t be on the line again until at least November. Besides I couldn’t handle 10-12 weeks of Sugar.

  • fr702 says:

    Well if Lyoto wins this gives alot of people the chance to see Lyoto “at work”, and shine the spotlight on the New Champion

    If Evans wins well then the shiit talking should be EPIC between Evans and Rampage…

    I would have liked for the next title defense to be in August or September, and then the LHW title to be defended in the end of the year show in December, but hey I don’t make the plans..

    I agree that putting the belt on hold til December sucks, I think that TUF should be like the #2 v #3 in the division type thing instead of Champion v Challenger but hey whatever, ZUFFA has been right before soo I guess it’s a wait and see type thing…

    • Jazzkok says:

      Yeah i totally agree. I’m sure the winner of bisping vs hendo will get a title shot. I like the idea of the top contenders being coaches and then sqaurring off to see who gets a shot. I don’t think the belt should sit for a long time and i don’t think the champ, especially @ 205 should be a coach on tuf.

      I don’t think it would be in rampages best interest to coach again because during tuf he totally lost focus and gained all that weight and was just laying low and chilln instead of staying in shape and preparring for forrest.

      Rampage imo simply isn’t made to be a coach. As for machida, it would be interesting to see what kind of coach he’d be and what he would teach the guys.

      Either way, hope “sugar” gets his ass whooped

    • bzul3 says:

      If it were #2 vs #3 who would the champ fight? The belt would still be on hold…

      • fr702 says:

        My apologies #3 and #4, I presumed that the #3 guy would move up to the #2 guy after the title fight yada yada, long day but I think we all understand what I meant ;-) good on ya

  • Tw@ says:

    Looks like Machida better crack open the old English phrase book

  • Figs says:

    I’m not too fond of this idea at all. It seems like a last minute idea. This title already sat for 10 months with Jackson and Griffin, now we have to hold it another six months. I can’t say I’m too thrilled.

    • Justin says:

      By the end of UFC 98, we will have seen the LHW title defended three times within eleven months, if they do TUF and have the fight in October/November then that will only be around six months, and they will still have time to get in another title fight before next May. I’m not exactly a fan of having the champs on TUF myself, but at least they’re not fighting in different weight classes like BJ and Anderson, or like some people want with GSP.

  • MMAFan says:

    If they really do this I could skip the entire season and not feel like I missed anything. Had enough Rampage last time. Not sure Evans will be any better. And Machida would just be frustrating.

    I’d like to see them get away from a main event level pairing for the coaches and get coaches for their coaching ability!

    I’d love to see Militech as a coach and get a taste for how an expert coach would handle things! May not make for as good a main event fight at the end of the season, but would make for a great season of watching guys develop under pro instruction.

    • YZFOXRACING says:

      I AGREE I SAY HAVE GREG JACKSON VS PAT MILETICH

      • Justin says:

        I guess you guys didn’t see the E:60 Videos, otherwise you would know that Miletich and the UFC don’t get along. Not to mention, Miletich is heavily involved with WAMMA (Screw~WAMMA) who as a matter of policy dislikes the UFC.

      • MMAFan says:

        You are correct. I did not know that there was ill feelings between Militech and the UFC. I assumed they were on good terms with as many Militech fighters compete.

      • MMAFan says:

        I could actually go for Chuck and Randy again. Timed with Liddel’s induction to the Hall of Fame. Hall of famer vs. Hall of famer.

  • GarRule says:

    Maybe Machida will make his team drink their own urine. Not as a prank, but as a morning training ritual. He could make them put it in their cucumber salads if they like.

  • shane says:

    that was anderson not machida

  • Turk says:

    Can’t wait for Evans to beat Machida and get you HATERS off his back. You guys say Rampage sucked as a coach and Evans will probably do the same bla bla bla look where each guy is at in their careers… One’s champ and the other is the next challenger for the belt. Oh yeah isn’t Evans UNDEFEATED too?

    • MMAFan says:

      Hey dude…. no one was saying anything about Evans or Rampage’s abilities as fighters. They are both awesome! And at the top of their game and the top of the division!

      What I was saying is that doesn’t translate to being a good coach. I just think that if the goal is to get a group of young talented up and coming fighters for a training camp (isn’t that what the show is?), then put them with guys that can coach and develop them as fighters while they are there.

      Being an undefeated world champ is an awesome accomplishment, and Evans is incredible. That doesn’t mean he will be a good coach. I think he’d be another Rampage as a coach… and if I watch any of the episodes I’m sure I’ll be yawning my way through them.

  • Turk says:

    MMAFan

    Dana honestly has no interest in who will be the best coach, but who will bring the ratings and the $$$. I can’t say that Shad would be a good coach or not but NO one ever gives this guy a chance and he always shuts cats up. I guess he will have to do it once again and peps will start to see he’s for real.

    • marvelknight4 says:

      You have a point. Lots of people still havn’t gave Evans his due credit. Myself included. After he ko’d Chuck i was still not a beleiver because Chuck was not the same Chuck anymore, but after he won the belt against Forrest i was impressed because Forrest was kicking his a$$ and nuetralizing his game with his awesome leg kicks and Evans still came out on top. Even though I have great dislike towards Evans, if he defeats Machida decisively i will no longer question his status or “realness”. But if he loses to Machida i’m sure i’ll still feel tha same.

      Evans has faced good competition like Tito Ortiz,Liddell and Griffin. I don’t take anything away from his vicotry over Griffin, but i feel he clearly lost to Ortiz and in the Chuck fight, i doubt he would last one round against the old Iceman. And considering his precvious oppenents such as Jason Lambert and Sean Salmon who are not elite fighters i think you can see why some of us are still not completely sold on “Sugar”.

    • MMAFan says:

      I’ve always thought Evans was for real. Even moreso than Griffin. It took me a long time to become a Griffin believer. Probably not until he beat Rampage. But I’ve thought Evans was the real deal since he was on TUF.

      • marvelknight4 says:

        If you compare the 2. Griffin not only beat but finished Shogun and took the title from Rampage who i feel is the top 205 fighter. Evans, yes beat Liddell, but an old Liddell. I don’t feel that Evans would be able to beat Shogun and Jackson back to back like Griffin did. But that’s just my opinion. Overall i feel Griffin has faced better competition, and while i’m at it…Evans and Griffin have both fought Tito Ortiz, Griffin you could argue, should have got the nod on the Ortiz fight, however Evans clearly lost that fight.

        I see your perspective though because just as we question Rashad’s “realness”, we can also question Griffin’s as well. But Griffin also has a tough challenge in front of him with Anderson Silva. So let’s wait and see how these 2 guys do with their upcoming fights to see if they really are the real desl, until then i still feel Evans is not all what he feels he is.

      • Justin says:

        If you’re going to compare Giffin v. Evans as far as their “realness”, I don’t see how you can say that Griffin is “more real” than Evans, because when they fought head to head, Evans won, and that pretty well settles that.

      • Justin says:

        BTW that is “you” in general, not “you” specifically.

      • yeah you have a point Justin.

        I was trying to say that Evans can silence everyone if he stops Machida, as far as Forrest goes, the only reason why I feel he’s proved himself is because he did beat Shogun and Rampage back to back, something no other fighter has ever done if i’m not mistaken.

        As far as “realness”, i can’t argue with you on that because like you said, Evans beat Griffin for the title so that does settle that. My personal opinion about Evans is that he has not defeated elite fighters like Forrest has, but has fought tough opponenets, but overall i feel Forrest has already shown he can contend with anyone at 205, if Rashad beats machida then i will feel the same about him despite the fact that he has beaten Forrest.

  • gunslinger says:

    if evans somehow beats machida by a miracle then…..i will proclaim rashad as the p4p best fighter in the world

    • fr702 says:

      That is a VERY bold statement my friend

    • Rashad Evans best p4p fighter in the world? Would you like to elaborate on that please…

    • I don’t see how Evans would be the best p4p fighter in the world with a victory over Machida given that they are both at 205.

      If Georges St. Pierre were to fight Anderson Silva and beat him, the you would be able to make and argument about GSP being the best p4p fighter in the world because he would have beaten the Lightweight and Middelweight champions. Only someone who has those credentials should be considered the best p4p fighter in the world, someone who can dominate multiple divisions not just one.

      If Evans beats Machida he will only prove that he is the best Light Heavyweight in the world, but only until Rampage kicks his a$$.

      • fr702 says:

        I will beat DbiZ to the punch and say don’t forget Fedor ;-)

      • I’m a Fedor fan, but not big enough of a fan to say he’s the best p4p fighter because he still has to fight the top UFC Heavyweights and beat them first.

  • bigchris2328 says:

    whoa, wait a minute, even if rashad beats machida that wont make him the best 205 guy. he hasnt beat rampage yet, or shogun. look at forrest. the reason he lost to rashad was due to his broken hand. forrest was winning that fight, then after he broke his hand he changed the way he fought. he didnt get ktfo’d by evans like liddel did. forrest has the best resume of the 205 guys. the top 5 in 205 are in no particular order, rampage, forrest, shogun, machida, evans. although machida and evans really havent beaten top guys. ill break it down.

    forrest: beat shogun, and rampage, lost to jardine, tito= 2 wins against the top 5 at 205

    rampage: beat chuck and the sardine, hendo, and wandy, lost to wandy twice, shogun, forrest= 2 wins against top 10 guys at 205(4 against top competition), hendo and wandy are both at 185 now.

    shogun: lost to forrest, beat rampage in pride= 1 win against a top 5

    evans: beat forrest and chuck= 2 top 10 wins

    machida: beat rich franklin in pride, and thiago silva= 1 top 10 win

    forrest has two legitimate top 10 wins and both are against top 5 guys, rampage has 4 wins against top competition, beat 3 former world champions.

    if anyone deserves this best at 205 talk its forrest or rampage. this is not a complete resume for these guys, but a quick one.

  • OnlyTrue1 says:

    Really it all boils down to this, either we like the fighter or we dont, because if you like a fight you tend to make excuses for that fighter, when it should apply to all.

    Did he win or lose.

    “Rashad beat Liddel {but he wasn’t the same Liddel}?????? COME ON!! HE beat him thats it. Rashad lost to Tito???? No he didn’t, it was a Draw because Tito was Cheating!!
    If you make cases as to who was winning the fight to began with or if a fighter wasn’t the same then no one is legit or “real” .

    If we gonna make excusses for fighters we’d be here all night. Rampage said he was kicking Wandy’s **** before the ref stood them up or he got caught with “me 22 knee’s”!! My Point he lost!!

    How about Shogun when he fought Forrest He wasn’t the same due to his knee injury YET no one mentions that!! So does that fight count!! Yeah of course. Griffin beat him. period. Same with Rashad/Liddel was Liddel the same doesn’t matter he lost. Evan beat him period.

    Rashad is “real” or legit if he beats Machida??? Are you serious? He has the belt by way of tko. That makes him champion in the most dangerous weight class. Did he face the same competition doesn’t matter he won and got a shot at the title and got it. Is Brock Lesnar real or legit?? What comp did he have to face???? Dont Matter He is the Champ.

    Griffin who I love lost to Jardine and Tito. LOST to them.
    Rashad who I love beat Jardine and fought to a Draw with Tito.
    Both beat Stephen Bonner
    Griffin won Tuf Beat a “broken version of” Shogun and Beat Rampage got the belt!!
    Rashad won Tuf beat a “broken version of” Liddel and Beat/TKO’d Griffin and got the Belt!!
    Ask me they are two sides of the same coin….

    • I see exactly what your point is dude.

      The fact is that Evans beat Griffin,yes he did. But the statement you just made can also be looked at the other way.

      Micheal Bisping WON the fight against Matt Hammil. so by your standards that makes Bisping better than Hammil.??? when we all know Hammil won that fight..are you getting what i’m saying? Yes Rashad Evans technically “WON” his fights against Liddell and Griffin, but it’s simple, i’m not saying the guy’s a fluke or anything like that because he is undefeated, nor am i saying the only way for him to be “legit” is to beat Machida because truth be told Machida still has to beat some top guys also but that’s another conversation. The fact is that there is a reason that so many people including myself still feel that Evan’s has to face and win agaisnt tougher competition in order to shut all of us up.

      • OnlyTrue1 says:

        Yeap ok, Bisping/Hammil ok, yeap your right but I didn’t say a fighter couldn’t get robbed!!
        But check this..

        Some say Rampage was robbed against Griffin. Sooo does he deserve credit for beating him or not??? Is he fo’real or not??? Should he face tougher guys or is he legit??? Rashad beat who they put in front of him Including Griffin who you deam as legit right, so technically he beat just as tough comp and won, as Forrest has.

        Giffin record 16-5 Evans record 18-0-1
        Win- S.Bonnar-UD Win- B.Imes-SD
        Win- B.Mahood- Sub Win- S. Hoger- SD
        Win -E.Sinisic- TKO Win- S.Bonnar- Majority D
        Loss- Tito -SD Win- J.Lambert KO
        Winn- S.Bonnar UD Win- S.Salmon KO
        Loss- K.Jardine TKO Draw- Tito-
        Winn- H.Rameriez UD Win- M.Bisping- SD
        Winn- Shogun- Sub Win- C.Liddel- KO
        Winn- Rampage- UD Win- F. Griffin TKO
        I give Griffin ABOUT 5 easy fights and I give Evans ABOUT 5 easy fights. Tito, shogun, rampage legit threats to Forrest/ Tito Liddel Griffin legit threats for Evans.

        Well either way we all gonna see now, that’s forsure.. If he beats Machida, congratulations, Hey Rashad here’s your consolation prize “RAMPAGE” then maybe Shogun or better yet Anderson Silva.. AGREE???

      • OnlyTrue1 dude…

        Griffin is “real” and “legit”.. The UFC gave him Tito kinda fast..Rashad got easy fights like Sean Fu*king Salmon and Jason “The Punisher” Fu*king Lambert. Griffin was fighting the tougher competition earlier than Evans was, Evans has only just begun to fight the top guys, Griffin has been doing so since he won TUF.

        yeah you can say Liddell, Ortiz, and Griffin were threats to Evans, but Griffin fought Shogun And your boy Rampage, Evans hasn’t fought guys like them who are still in their prime, he fought “on his way out” Liddell and Ortiz”not in his prime”

        agree???

    • OnlyTrue1

      Tell Me How Evans is truely “legit” because i’m dying to know. Come on, yes..yes.. he beat Forrest for the title, but come one, the guy made his name by kocking out Sean fu*king Salmon dude, who the fu*k is Sean Salmon? He ko’d Chuck, but whether you like it or not Liddell is old and his chin is also old.

      Before you say that I dislike Rashad, think again my friend because I actually admire the fact that he keeps prving people wrong and keeps winning,BUT he still has not beat top 5 205′ers to be completely “legit”.

      You CAN say that Forrest beat an injured Shogun, BUT Forrest is the only one to not only beat but TAKE the title from YOUR BOY Rampage who IMO is the best 205-er. So even though Forrest lost to Rashad, Rashad has still NOT defeated a true threat. :D

      • OnlyTrue1 says:

        I’m glad you asked that Question my friend I hope I already answered it for you up top but let us not for get the reason why Rashad is legit and listen closely MK4
        IS
        Because………
        He……As in Rashad!…
        Has the Belt in the UFC!!
        I believe we all agree the UFC is legit no, I believe the UFC has the Best Organization no, I believe the UFC has Majority the best fighters and the most stacked LHW Division of all no. And guess who is Undefeated in that weight class. AND dont forget this part is the Champion in that weight class??? DING DING DING Yeahhhh you win Rashad Evans….Unlessss you believe all that untrue and Dana white and the UFC powers that be are showing Rashad favortism???
        Honestly anyone who steps foot in that cage is a threat, so Is rashad the best 205er he is making a case for it. He beat your BOY Forrest not by UD, SUB, SD, Draw but by TKO’in him so bad we couldn’t tell if he was tapping or flapping!!!!!

        I love Rampage but honestly I believe Rashad is the better all around fighter, but that don’t mean jack crap if he doesn’t bring it in the ring. I believe a middleweight is the best 205er A.Silva sooo IMO no one is legit LOL.. Especially when a MW can beat you all..

      • OnlyTrue1

        Evans is the champ at 205 in the tioughest division in MMA and he managed to do this by fighting guys outside of the top 5 kid! yeah he’s the champ, but his list does not compare to other champs buddy.

        I’m glad you pointed all of this out cuz you only prove my point even more. Evans is the champ in the toughest division in MMA and he hasn’t even fought a true legit threat that WILL for REAL TEST, his overall game.

        AGrEE???? :D

      • OnlyTrue1 says:

        Sooo Liddel at the time they fought was not considered top 5 huh??
        Sooo Griffin who had the belt at the time was not considered top 5 huh??
        Tito at the time they fought was not considered top 5 Huh??

        Forrest fought Tito about his 4th fight but before that noboys and then he LOST to Tito then he was given Bonnar again then LOST to a Tuf fighter K. Jardine then who the **** is Hector Rameriz Where is all this tuff comp. your talking about Any of these guys out side of Tito top 5 at the time??? Then he fought and beat up a torn knee outside of his ring and organization ring rusty Shogun.. And won a split decission to Rampage who some say he lost!! And You consider him legit but not evans??? Whose list is Undefeated and similar to Griffin who he spanked…

        Do you consider Machida a top 5 then??? If so why??? Who has he beat in the top 5 and why does he deserve a title shot.

  • OnlyTrue1 says:

    I wanna see Rampage Champ again but if he only chooses to fight like a boxer and not an all around fighter, then he will lose, and soo be it. If Machida does it or Evans I wanna see the best fighter with the belt.

    Not some one because he is my favorite. That just extra if he is my favorite. When a fighter who is the best has the belt that means all other fighters have to step up there game so hard that it creates a another level of competition and fighter. And the Sport itself evolves which I want.

    Ex. GSP, had he not lost to Matt Hughes 1st time would he have changed himself to became such a awesome athletic fighter or to Matt Serra would we not have seen the Mean Killer version of GSP who beat the living hell outta B.J. Penn??

  • bigchris2328 says:

    without making excuses for rashad, forrest and rampage, it breaks down like this. rashad had not faced a top 5 guy until he got forrest, then he beat forrest to become champ. ok.

    forrest beat shogun which gave him the shot against rampage and he won.

    rampage beat eastman, then chuck, then hendo.

    my point is they really didnt beat top competition until they got their title shots. but they all stepped up at the right time to win. has evans faced tougher guys than forrest or rampage? hell no. has forrest faced tougher guys than rampage? again hell no. has machida? no.

    the reason machida is getting his shot so soon is because mir backed out of the brock fight, so IMO the ufc decided that an undefeated against undefeated would save this rather weak card. I dont think it does. if evans beats machida is he the best 205er? no, not until he beats rampage/shogun/ or even anderson silva. he needs tougher fights. if machida beats evans is he the best 205er? no he would have beaten the champ, but thats it. do you guys get what im trying to say?

  • carlrtr says:

    fedor is as good as everybody says he is. if anyone actually watched several of his fights instead of being a puppet and a parrot from what dana white says about anderson silva then there would be little cofusion who p4p ther best fighter is. the only fighters who really are that special of fighters are gsp, fedor and possibly urijah faber.

  • MIKE says:

    this is not a good idea can lyoto speak english and rampage is good for tv but he was not really the best of coaches. im going to get a lot of stuff for this but tito ortiz was the best TUF coach(then Nougeria, griffin, franklin, and matt hughes the first time he coached) i think rashad would be good coach though.

  • MIKE says:

    yea by the way evans and forrest are both legit fighters they both beat other top fighters. but evans did beat forrest so right now evans is a bit better than forrest. not taking anything away from forrest

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