Comments on: Loiseau, Chonan, and Bielkheden Released by UFC http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/ UFC and MMA News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:36:27 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: OnlyTrue1 http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/#comment-96049 OnlyTrue1 Thu, 07 May 2009 04:57:07 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10238#comment-96049 Thx's Justin I knew I was being" pretentious" when I tried to do that!!! But your right I mess up on that one!!! Thx’s Justin

I knew I was being” pretentious” when I tried to do that!!!

But your right I mess up on that one!!!

]]> By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/#comment-96044 Justin Thu, 07 May 2009 04:34:23 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10238#comment-96044 Jardine was SD winner over Vera. For future reference, you can often find a fighter's record at Wikipedia and/or Sherpup's FightFinder. Jardine was SD winner over Vera. For future reference, you can often find a fighter’s record at Wikipedia and/or Sherpup’s FightFinder.

]]> By: OnlyTrue1 http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/#comment-96043 OnlyTrue1 Thu, 07 May 2009 04:10:32 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10238#comment-96043 Wow I'm telling you guys if me and Dbiz agree on a topic, man you need to stamp that in Gold!! Dbiz is right, I cant put it no better then that... By the way {nice airball} priceless!! Jazzkok If we beat then you have already lost.. Jardine lost his last fight by decision to Rampage, not KO.... Sooo technically speaking you lose. I'm gonna do the Fr702 method {best I can no disrespect fr702} Keith Jardine TKO - Winner vs Forrest Griffin Tko - Loser vs Houston Alexander UD - Winner vs Chuck Liddel Tko - Loser vs Wanderlei Silva Tko - Winner vs Brandon Vera Tko - Loser vs Quinton Jackson Man took me all day!!! I hope I made you proud Fr702 and Justin Hey I tried!!! Notable wins not mentioned Mike who the ****is Whitehead by ud Wilson Gouviea by ud Kerry Schall by tko Notable loses Stephen Bonnar by ud and W. silva by decapitation and YES A. Houston by ccccccccccooooommmmbbbbooooo breaker!!! But you notice the trend win loss win loss win loss so since last he lost to Rampage technically he should win against Thiago {who has he fought and won to deserve so much credit} Silva!! But I said all that to say I'll Take your bet Homey!!! Wow I’m telling you guys if me and Dbiz agree on a topic, man you need to stamp that in Gold!!

Dbiz is right, I cant put it no better then that… By the way {nice airball} priceless!!

Jazzkok

If we beat then you have already lost.. Jardine lost his last fight by decision to Rampage, not KO…. Sooo technically speaking you lose.
I’m gonna do the Fr702 method {best I can no disrespect fr702}

Keith Jardine
TKO – Winner vs Forrest Griffin
Tko – Loser vs Houston Alexander
UD – Winner vs Chuck Liddel
Tko – Loser vs Wanderlei Silva
Tko – Winner vs Brandon Vera
Tko – Loser vs Quinton Jackson
Man took me all day!!! I hope I made you proud Fr702 and Justin
Hey I tried!!!
Notable wins not mentioned Mike who the ****is Whitehead by ud Wilson Gouviea by ud Kerry Schall by tko Notable loses Stephen Bonnar by ud and W. silva by decapitation and YES A. Houston by ccccccccccooooommmmbbbbooooo breaker!!!

But you notice the trend win loss win loss win loss so since last he lost to Rampage technically he should win against Thiago {who has he fought and won to deserve so much credit} Silva!!

But I said all that to say I’ll Take your bet Homey!!!

]]> By: OnlyTrue1 http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/#comment-96041 OnlyTrue1 Thu, 07 May 2009 03:44:16 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10238#comment-96041 MK4 Don't worry kid I dont do personal attacks {unless provoked} I love to debate as well and yes you have your oppinions and should express them, no matter how wrong you are {lol} or not. I am sometimes {alot of times} very far left fields with some of the stuff I say, trust me on this but I find it sooo much fun to discuss MMA with others who appreicate the sport.. So whatever we discuss homey dont take this stuff personal at all. Honestly I am very tame and watch what I type now compared to what I use to post Man!!! Ask Kris, or Justin or my dog FR702!! But still like I said before anyone said it here Jardine is a GREAT Gate Keeper He has a all around Game and He is tough as nail so he is valid and neccesary for the UFC at LHW. And he is going to beat your boy... Good stuff MK4

Don’t worry kid I dont do personal attacks {unless provoked}

I love to debate as well and yes you have your oppinions and should express them, no matter how wrong you are {lol} or not.

I am sometimes {alot of times} very far left fields with some of the stuff I say, trust me on this but I find it sooo much fun to discuss MMA with others who appreicate the sport..

So whatever we discuss homey dont take this stuff personal at all. Honestly I am very tame and watch what I type now compared to what I use to post Man!!! Ask Kris, or Justin or my dog FR702!!

But still like I said before anyone said it here Jardine is a GREAT Gate Keeper He has a all around Game and He is tough as nail so he is valid and neccesary for the UFC at LHW. And he is going to beat your boy… Good stuff

]]> By: dbiz http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/#comment-95990 dbiz Wed, 06 May 2009 18:56:22 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10238#comment-95990 And then Joe Silva decided Forrest was miles ahead of T. Silva and gave him a better fight - one more fitting of his standing. And don't forget, Silva suffered a more brutal KO than most of Jardine's. Nice airball. And then Joe Silva decided Forrest was miles ahead of T. Silva and gave him a better fight – one more fitting of his standing. And don’t forget, Silva suffered a more brutal KO than most of Jardine’s. Nice airball.

]]> By: jazzkok http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/#comment-95982 jazzkok Wed, 06 May 2009 16:57:39 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10238#comment-95982 Onlytrue1 I'll take that bet. I'll bet my avatar for a week. I bet thiago will help jardine continue his streak of decision, ko, decision ko. Jardine is the gatekeeper. Gatekeepers shouldn't fight top level lhws. Thiago got his ass ko'd by "the dragon", but that was his first loss and it was to the guy who's going to fight for the title. Jardine, just got his ass kicked by my boy rampage, and previously beat "the truth" by decision. And let's not forget what happened before that fight, so anyone who's keeping up with the "rankings" would agree that jardine DOES NOT deserve to fight thiago. Don't agree? Well ask Joe silva why he FIRST HAD FORREST NOT JARDINE FIGHTING THIAGO. "he fades back, he shoots, and HE SCORES!" <em>No personal attacks. - Justin</em> Onlytrue1

I’ll take that bet. I’ll bet my avatar for a week. I bet thiago will
help jardine continue his streak of decision, ko, decision ko.

Jardine is the gatekeeper. Gatekeepers shouldn’t fight top level lhws. Thiago got his ass ko’d by “the dragon”, but that was his first loss and it was to the guy who’s going to fight for the title. Jardine, just got his ass kicked by my boy rampage, and previously beat “the truth” by decision. And let’s not forget what happened before that fight, so anyone who’s keeping up with the “rankings” would agree that jardine DOES NOT deserve to fight thiago. Don’t agree? Well ask Joe silva why he FIRST HAD FORREST NOT JARDINE FIGHTING THIAGO.

“he fades back, he shoots, and HE SCORES!”

No personal attacks. – Justin

]]> By: eldiablo http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/#comment-95978 eldiablo Wed, 06 May 2009 16:27:45 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10238#comment-95978 How is Grove on this list? I can see arguments for the rest (although Stevenson and Gonzaga's popularity alone will keep them in the Octagon for a couple loses in a row still), but Grove just DESTROYED Jason Day's leg and is on a 2 fight win streak. I personally don't like him and wouldn't mind seeing him gone (mostly cause he knocked Day out of the UFC), but he's in no risk of losing his job any time soon. How is Grove on this list? I can see arguments for the rest (although Stevenson and Gonzaga’s popularity alone will keep them in the Octagon for a couple loses in a row still), but Grove just DESTROYED Jason Day’s leg and is on a 2 fight win streak. I personally don’t like him and wouldn’t mind seeing him gone (mostly cause he knocked Day out of the UFC), but he’s in no risk of losing his job any time soon.

]]> By: marvelknight4 http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/#comment-95977 marvelknight4 Wed, 06 May 2009 16:12:56 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10238#comment-95977 1. Onlytrue1, dude i don't hate Jardine, if you look back at past topics that we've discussed i have always given him credit for his "never say die" attitude and his heart in the octagon. I stand by my point that he's not a top 205 fighter and is overrated,, that does not mean i think he's the worst fighter. I feel i've made my point, and will drop this Jardine talk for good. 2. Off Topic: Dbiz and I conversate all the time, we disagree on topics and agree on others, that's what IMO makes this a great place to be. I enjoy clashing with you guys about different topics, however Onltrue1, i have my thoughts on various MMA topics, if you disagree, bring it and we'll debate on it. No need for personal attacks, just prove me wrong. 3. Thiago Silva is going to destroy Jardine, if he doesn't than you can say whatever you want, Silva is coming off a tough loss to Machida, he's going to come in a bit more cautious than in the Machida fight, his base is his ground game, Jardine's base is striking, Thiago will take him down and pound him out or apply a sub, and when that happens you will see that i do have a point about Jardine. 4. If Jardine does lose, it is possible that he can be matched up against Houston Alexander again and we'll see if the first fight really was a fluke. 1. Onlytrue1, dude i don’t hate Jardine, if you look back at past topics that we’ve discussed i have always given him credit for his “never say die” attitude and his heart in the octagon. I stand by my point that he’s not a top 205 fighter and is overrated,, that does not mean i think he’s the worst fighter. I feel i’ve made my point, and will drop this Jardine talk for good.

2. Off Topic: Dbiz and I conversate all the time, we disagree on topics and agree on others, that’s what IMO makes this a great place to be. I enjoy clashing with you guys about different topics, however Onltrue1, i have my thoughts on various MMA topics, if you disagree, bring it and we’ll debate on it. No need for personal attacks, just prove me wrong.

3. Thiago Silva is going to destroy Jardine, if he doesn’t than you can say whatever you want, Silva is coming off a tough loss to Machida, he’s going to come in a bit more cautious than in the Machida fight, his base is his ground game, Jardine’s base is striking, Thiago will take him down and pound him out or apply a sub, and when that happens you will see that i do have a point about Jardine.

4. If Jardine does lose, it is possible that he can be matched up against Houston Alexander again and we’ll see if the first fight really was a fluke.

]]> By: Justin http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/#comment-95974 Justin Wed, 06 May 2009 14:31:09 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10238#comment-95974 He's looking at <a href="http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/#comment-95939" rel="nofollow">this list by marvelknight4</a> He’s looking at this list by marvelknight4

]]> By: eldiablo http://mmafrenzy.com/10238/loiseau-chonan-and-bielkheden-released-by-ufc/#comment-95973 eldiablo Wed, 06 May 2009 14:04:11 +0000 http://mmafrenzy.com/?p=10238#comment-95973 Although I like the guy, Loiseau deserved to be let go. Not even my Canadian bias can save him on this one. Honestly I was more upset with MacDonald being cut. Either way, the UFC is the best and only the best should be fighting there. Although I fundamentally disagree with the way UFC does their contracts (another topic for another day), they have the right, nay, the duty to cut underperformers and promote winners. That aside, I hate to say it, but until Jardine beats Alexander he'll never be able to say he's better than him. Houston beat Keith - bad - plain and simple. And for the record, I like both fighters. Jardine just has a hard time against guys who come out heavy handed, swinging for the fences. I would like to see a Jardine vs Alexander rematch. And Turk: on what list are you reading Gonzaga? I'm also a HUGE Gonzaga fan, but until that guy beats a somebody again, he might be on the cutting block soon (Yeah, I know he KO'd Cro Cop, but that was YEARS ago). Although I like the guy, Loiseau deserved to be let go. Not even my Canadian bias can save him on this one. Honestly I was more upset with MacDonald being cut. Either way, the UFC is the best and only the best should be fighting there. Although I fundamentally disagree with the way UFC does their contracts (another topic for another day), they have the right, nay, the duty to cut underperformers and promote winners.

That aside, I hate to say it, but until Jardine beats Alexander he’ll never be able to say he’s better than him. Houston beat Keith – bad – plain and simple. And for the record, I like both fighters. Jardine just has a hard time against guys who come out heavy handed, swinging for the fences. I would like to see a Jardine vs Alexander rematch.

And Turk: on what list are you reading Gonzaga? I’m also a HUGE Gonzaga fan, but until that guy beats a somebody again, he might be on the cutting block soon (Yeah, I know he KO’d Cro Cop, but that was YEARS ago).

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