Loiseau, Chonan, and Bielkheden Released by UFC
David Loiseau
Three more fighters have been released by the UFC as lightweight David Bielkheden, welterweight Ryo Chonan, and middleweight David Loiseau have been cut by the promotion following losses in April at UFC 97. Fighters Only was first to report the cuts on Tuesday.
Over the weekend, the UFC released veteran middleweight Jason MacDonald.
Bielkheden (13-7) was 1-2 in his time with his UFC, defeating Jess Liaudin while suffering losses to Diego Sanchez and, most-recently, Mark Bocek.
Chonan (16-9), a DEEP and PRIDE veteran, went just 1-3 in the UFC, earning his lone victory over Roan Carneiro in September 2008 following a debut loss to Karo Parisyan. His release comes after losing back-to-back bouts to Brad Blackburn and TJ Grant.
After back-to-back losses forced from the UFC in 2006, Loiseau was re-signed by the promotion after winning four of five bouts. However, “The Crow” suffered a lopsided unanimous decision loss to Ed Herman at UFC 97 in his return that has resulted in him being released yet again.
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I think they had to let the crow go considering he lost to Herman… who would have probably been out had he lost.
Yeah, they need to have ONLY the best of the best fight and unfortunately the guys were far from the top level anyway. I will kinda miss the Crow his elbows were wicked “back in the day” but if he couldn’t beat Herman then this was the only move. I was more surprised about MacDonald his fights were at least entertaining. A 500 record isn’t good enough these days.
I expected these ….
I wonder what would have happened to Quarry if Macdonald would have beaten him ? It would have also been 2 losses in a row, Quarry has also lost to Franklin 1st round KO and Maia 1st round SUB ( worse than Macdonald did ). Quarry has beaten Kalib starnes ( exciting fight lol ), Pete Sell twice and Shony Carter.
In my opinion that fight was an elimination fight or to be fair should have been. Although I have a feeling Quarry would still be here.
It may very well have been an elimination fight, I think they may have cut Quarry a break on the Maia fight though, considering he had some sort of stomach bug with stuff coming out both ends and took a break from worshiping the porcelain idol long enough to come in and fight, then go back to his hotel room to continue paying homage, at least I think that’s what he said was going on in the interview I heard.
I don’t know about that. Prior to the fight with Macdonald, Quarry was 5-2 in the UFC, with 4 of those wins coming by way of KO or TKO, and 3 of those KO’s coming in the first round. Although the guys he had beaten weren’t exactly the cream of the crop, it’s hard to argue that Quarry is not an exciting fighter . Also, his only 2 losses in the UFC came from 2 guys who are definitely in the top 10 in Franklin and Maia. Macdonald, while an exciting and capable fighter and a true credit to the sport, was 5-4 in the UFC going into the fight against Quarry, and was 1-2 in his prior 3 fights. I don’t think Quarry would have gotten the axe had he lost to “the Athlete.” I hope Macdonald finds his way back to the UFC soon.
Good point mburtoni, I didn’t go and refresh my memory on Quarry’s record and such before responding to Dirty, I just went based on what he had to say. With what you mentioned, I think he would have had to go on a three fight slide to face elimination, especially considering the two people he has lost to in the UFC.
Too bad for Loiseau, first fight back and he choked hard, in his hometown too. None of these are shocks at all.
The Crow should have got at least one more shot man, they cut him too soon. The UFC gives Jardine infinite chances, why not give The Crow at least one more.
Jardine has yet to drop back to back fights, and has faced top competition in seven of his last eight fights. Career record 14-5-1 (6-4 UFC). Notable wins: Forrest Griffin, Chuck Liddell, Brandon Vera, Wilson Gouveia. Losses: Travis Wiuff, Stephan Bonnar, Houston Alexander, Wanderlei Silva, Rampage
Loiseau was making his return to the promotion against a guy who had lost back to back and would likely have been cut had the fight gone the other way. He lost back to back fights prompting his getting cut from the UFC the last time, in 2006. He went 4-2 and came back to the UFC with three straight wins against less than top tier competition, including Solomon “Daggerrrrrr” Hutcherson, and promptly “suffered a lopsided unanimous decision loss to Ed Herman” upon his UFC return. Career record 18-9 (4-4 UFC) Notable Wins: Evan Tanner, Shawn Tompkins, Joe Doerkson, Tony Fryklun. Losses: Rich Franklin, Mike Swick, Jeremy Horn, Jorge Rivera, Joey Villasenor, Ed Herman, Jason Day, Jason St. Louis, Justin Bruckmann
I think numbers and names speak for themselves here, Jardine is +2 on his UFC record, while Loiseau is even, Jardine has a better overall win percentage, and Jardine has wins over better fighters and his losses (excepting Alexander) have come against better competition.
So as long as Jardine keeps winning lackluster decisions it’s ok for him to keep fighting top guys that he doesn’t deserve to fight? And it’s ok for him to win(by decision because he always wins on points and is always riding his one ko against Griffin), and each time after he wins(by lackluster unimpressive performance) he gets ko’d, can’t take advantage of numreous undeserving opportunities, he should still get top guys? He should get one shot in the pre0lims, and if he doesn’t “impress” he should get cut or go down to 185.
Weight classes aren’t like A, AA, and AAA ball. You don’t get sent down to another weight class just because someone isn’t happy with your performances. Furthermore, you’ve showed yourself to hate Jardine because he wins in less than spectacular fashion. Kind of like a certain middleweight champ lately. But no one is calling for him to be cut for not giving highlight reel wins. Nor should they.
Loiseau was not a top 15 fighter in the UFC at his weight class, much less overall. Why do you have a problem cutting a guy who can only win when he isn’t in the UFC? The guy is totally washed up and probably shouldn’t get another chance with the big boys.
As for Jardine, he’s not had anything more than a 1 fight loss streak and you want to cut him…just because? Jardine hater much? There’s no way to get rid of Jardine without gutting the rest of the UFC if you want to apply that standard.
First of all, following his last decision victory he did not get KOed (see Rampage fight). I cannot necessarily speak to his decision victories being “lackluster unimpressive performances” or not without re-watching them, unless of course you consider all decision victories to “lackluster unimpressive performances”. If you do consider any decision lackluster, you need to start complaining about Dan Henderson, six of his last eight fights went to a decision, the two that didn’t were his knockout of Wanderlei, and him getting choked out by Anderson.
Also take into consideration that all of Loiseaus last five losses were decision, and one of his last four wins was as well (by the way, in his last nine fighte Loiseaus is 4-5, Jardine is 5-4 in his last nine). In the end, I’m not trying to make an argument for or against Jardine, necessarily. My point is, if I were a promoter and I’m looking at Jardine vs. Loiseau on who is getting cut, which was the original premise, I would keep Jardine in my organization and give Loiseau the boot. Jardine might be on thin ice, but I take him over Loiseau.
dbiz,
re: “Weight classes aren’t like A, AA, and AAA ball. You don’t get sent down to another weight class just because someone isn’t happy with your performances.”
Thank you! I’m really starting to get frustrated with the way that some people around here seem to think oh, well he’s not doing so hot at X weight class he needs to drop down, meanwhile said fighter may be cutting 15-20 pounds to make the current weight class. Trying your hand at a lower weight class can only be potentially beneficial is if you are small for the weight class you’ve been at (Vera at HW, Franklin, Bisping, Wanderlei, Hendo at 205, Kampann at 185, BJ and 170, Gamburyan, Jens at 155, etc.).
That guy’s had a hard-on for cutting Jardine for a while – even going so far as to say that Houston Alexander, on a 3 fight losing streak, is a better keeper.
dbiz, Jusrin,
First of all Justin, i don’t think all decision victories are lackluster, only Jardine’s. Second of all i only suggested he go down to 185 not because it’s the norm now and days, but because it’s obvious that the UFC won’t let this guy go and he is not important at all at 205 anymore, he had his chances against Wanderlei and Rampage and didn’t deliver. And yes i did watch the Rampage fight. It’s simple Jardine’s recent wuns have been by decision, IMO they were all lackluster, yes he didn’t get ko’d by Jackson, but look before that, he wins once than gets ko’d. Yes he’s faced better competition than The Crow, and hasn’t delivered. Unlike his trining partner Rashad. My point is simple, the UFC cuts a lot of guys that drop 2 in a row, but at least some of those guys come to either finish their opponent or win decisevly. Few exceptions are Fitch, and Griffin(Griffin vs Jackson, Fitch vs GSP) at least those guys come to fight rather than just barely score a decision. Look at Wanderlei, he gets ko’d now and then but at least he rises to the occasion every now and then, Jardine has not, in every significant opportunity he has got, he hasn’t showed up, thhose opportunities being against Wanderlei and Jackson. Come on, if he’s as good as you say he is posting his record and all, why can’t he at least win one “big” fight. Forrest did,Rashad did,but he hasn’t therefore explaining my dislike and dislike for those who believe he is better than what he is. Other fighters that have been cut didn’t really deserve to get cut, they also never got all the chacnces Jardine has had. Jardine may have not lost 2 in a row, but he hasn’t done anything important either.
I think Justin is right about the Crow……. He lost and lost very badly against a guy who was possibly on his way out. He just didn’t do much. I was there and it was very disappointing !
Justin and Dbiz,
How come EVERYTIME someone criticizes a fighter you dudes like, you get all bent out of shape? This is an opinion based forum dude, everyone is going to have their own opinion. “i’m getting really frustrated at the way people (you meant marvel, no need for passive aggresive **** dude we’re not chiks) around here think”. Dude, i don’t like the way you think! but that doesn’t mean you can’t have your own opinion. NOT EVERYONE THINKS JARDINE IS A TOP FIGHTER! NOT EVERYONE LIKES JARDINE. NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO AGREE WITH YOU!
Having said that,
Jardine last 5 fights
Loss Quinton Jackson – Unanimous Decision
Win Brandon Vera – Split Decision
Loss Wanderlei Silva – Knock Out
Win Chuck Liddell – Split Decision
Loss Houston Alexander – Technical Knock Out
Thiago Silva
Loss Lyoto Machida Knock Out
Win Antonio Mendes Submission
Win Houston Alexander Technical Knock Out
Win Tomasz Drwal Technical Knock Out
Win James Irvin TKO Stoppage (Referee)
I’ll let you guys decide if Jardine deserves to fight thiago silva.
1. I don’t really like Jardine, I just disagreed with Marvel’s opinion Jardine should have been cut instead of Loiseau and gave my reasons why.
2. I’m not bent out of shape.
3. Context dude, context:
“I’m really starting to get frustrated with the way that some people around here seem to think oh, well he’s not doing so hot at X weight class he needs to drop down, meanwhile said fighter may be cutting 15-20 pounds to make the current weight class.” (It should have been “think ‘oh, well…down,’ meanwhile” grammar fail for me on that one.)
4. Maybe Marvel has been the only one calling for every fighter that needs a turnaround to drop weight classes, maybe not, I don’t remember who says everything, I wasn’t talking only about Jardine, I was talking about comments towards Alexander, Chuck, and a couple other fighters where people have said “They should drop down to XXXX weight,” when the fighter is big for their current weight class.
I don’t really care to get into arguing Jardine v. T. Silva, my whole point from the beginning has been that Jardine is not more deserving of getting cut than Loiseau, that’s it.
Justin, dbiz,
I’ve never been one of those fans who say: oh if he’s not doing well at xx weight class send him down. My original comment was”they cut the crow too soon, they give Jardine infinite chances why not give The crow one more”. I see how you might disagree. My stand has always been that Jardine, ever since he got lucky against Griffin, that’s all the guy talks about, yes it was an upset vicotry and it was the fight that brought him up, but what has he done since then that puts him above some of these guys that recently were cut? Yes he beat Chuck, but in a split decision, not decisive decision. Jardine should be in an “eliminator” fight, not fighting Thiago Silva.
I think if Alexander loses his next fight, he’s cut. Not because he’s a 60 second fighter, not because I really don’t like him, but because that’s 4 straight losses.
The reason I got bent out of shape there is because we have someone saying the UFC should cut a guy for not KOing his opponents. If a fighter wants to show up to out-point people and can, more power to him. When Machida or the dancing retard do it’s called being smart. When Jardine does it, it’s called boring and lackluster.
No, it’s the same in both cases. It’s a strategy, it works, they win more than they lose, you keep them. That’s it. Anything else is being a prissy little girl because someone you liked got cut for not being good and someone you dislike stayed because he manages to win.
There’s a lot of guys in the UFC that I’m not impressed with and would love to see go. But unlike SOME I don’t cry about every time someone else gets cut. When those I dislike lose enough, they’ll go. Until then, my point stands. All of those cut are not winning enough. As long as Jardine wins as many as he loses, he’ll stay above .500 in the UFC and will likely stay.
PS, marvel
marvelknight4 says:
May 5, 2009 at 2:54 pm (Report)
So as long as Jardine keeps winning lackluster decisions it’s ok for him to keep fighting top guys that he doesn’t deserve to fight? And it’s ok for him to win(by decision because he always wins on points and is always riding his one ko against Griffin), and each time after he wins(by lackluster unimpressive performance) he gets ko’d, can’t take advantage of numreous undeserving opportunities, he should still get top guys? He should get one shot in the pre0lims, and if he doesn’t “impress” he should get cut or go down to 185.
You did say he should drop to a weight he can’t reach.
dbiz, i did say Jardine should drop down, i said that because the UFC doesn’t get rid of him and because he’s not important at 205 at all. I’m not saying everyone should drop a weight class. Second, you compared Jardine to Machida saying that Machida wins on points and is called smart, but when Jardine does it it’s called boring, dude did you watch Machida vs. Thiago Silva? Machida attacked more than he ever has, he dropped Thiago twice before knocking him out at the end of the round. Don’t compare Jardine with Machida, because when Machida gets an opportunity he goes for the kill just like in the Tito fight, yeah he was being elusive and scoring points, but he still attacked when Tito gave him an opening. Jardine almost never attacks rather he counter strikes, but not agressively, but to keep his opponent away and possibly score a point here or there. 3rd, dude i’m not saying that if a fighter doesn’t ko all his opponenets he should be cut, where did you get that from? I simply said Jardine should be on the cut list, and that he’s no different from other recently cut fighters.
Except that he still wins. The UFC doesn’t cut winners, even ones who go out to win on points.
dbiz,
Jardine is not a winner, he can’t even win 2 in a row, let alone finish a guy
I’m supposed to listen to the guy who doesn’t think Alexander should be cut immediately on calling Jardine not a winner? Alexander is a loser in all senses of the word. 3 straight losses vs 1 straight loss.
As long as Alexander is here, Jardine will AND SHOULD be here.
I am actually more pissed about Jason Macdonald getting cut than any of these 3 guys. “The Athlete” was 5-5 in the UFC, though admittedly having dropped his last fights via 1st round TKO, he hasn’t been at his best lately.
I wonder how they can justify that while Sam Stout, who is now 3-4, will not get cut. Same with H. Alexander.
I agree with you. I think the “TUF killer” (not clay guida) shouldn’t have been cut. I don’t know why sam stout hasnt been cut either, i mean for real dude. Houston has a huge fan base and is almost always and exciting fighter. I think the ufc wants to give him a shot to tko/ko another dude, while allowing him time to work on his game, ground game to be more specific, so he can continue to be exciting and NOT aLways get submitted (drew mcfredries).
semms like theres alot of talk about sardine i say lets see what happens in his next fight against t. silva if he loses ya let him go but if he wins the stop bashing him. like come on he did beat chuck and forrest……lol sorry had to do it
jardine doesn’t suck dude, i think what i’m saying is that he isn’t a top 205ever and shouldn’t be fighting thiago silva who is. He’s inconsistent with his w’s and the w’s he gets, aren’t finishes or exciting matches. The only excitment we’ve seen out of jardine, is when he get’s his ass kicked. Therefor, if he loses to thiago, he should fight some prelim caliber fighter, and then if he loses that one, he should go to affliction.
Guys who should be on thin ice:
1: Keith”The Dean Of Mean” Jardine(just for his name alone should get cut, come on “The Dean Of Mean”)
2:Drew”The Massacre” Mcfedries
3:James”The Sandman” Irvin
4:Sam”Hands Of Stone” Stout
5:Joe”Daddy” Stevenson
6:Mac Danzig
7:Houston”The Assasin” Alexander
8:Gabriel”Napao” Gonzaga
9:Josh Hendricks
10:Kendall”Da Spyda” Grove
The lack of Houston Alexander on your list destroys your credibility completely. Facing a possible 4th straight loss and not on the bubble? He should be #1 on your list no matter how much you like him.
Oh, my bad. You just had him at #7. So your credibility is only mostly destroyed.
How is Grove on this list? I can see arguments for the rest (although Stevenson and Gonzaga’s popularity alone will keep them in the Octagon for a couple loses in a row still), but Grove just DESTROYED Jason Day’s leg and is on a 2 fight win streak. I personally don’t like him and wouldn’t mind seeing him gone (mostly cause he knocked Day out of the UFC), but he’s in no risk of losing his job any time soon.
dbiz,
dude, for real dude! come on, my list was in no particular order man, i know you’ve been dying to make me look like a fool, but dude, my list was meant to point out the guys who should be on thin ice, i never mentioned it in any specific order buddy.
Looks like an order. Looks a lot like an order, what with the numbers next to them and all. Really Alexander should have been gone after getting choked out like a little girl by Eric “Nobody” Schafer.
Strategy for beating Alexander: Survive he first minute (or destroy him in the first 10 seconds). He’s a bad joke.
dude the numbers are there for no specific reason dude, for real dude, thats it, thats all. The guys i mentioned are the guys i feel should be on thin ice and thats all, your trying to make more out of it because you have nothing else to say.
dbiz,
dude, also, i’m not disagreeing with you about Alezander, but just because he is a loser does not for one second mean that Keith Jardine is a winner!
Compared to your boy Houston, Jardine is Fedor. To even have them on the same list is the problem.
If Jardine beats Silva, I’ll expect a video of you calling yourself an idiot.
No personal attacks. -Justin
Dude, i have obviously got under your skin. You really have a hard on for Jardine huh? Well, i can chat about topics in an adult and matture manner, you obviously cannot my friend. If Jardine wins, then he wins, if he loses he only proves my point, but if he does win, he still has not won 2 in a row, get over it, JUST BECAUSE HOUSTON ALEXANDER IS A LOSER DOES NOT MAKE JARDINE A WINNER, DID YOU FORGET THAT ALEXANDER MURDERED YOUR BOY JARDINE? SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU
Bad dbiz! don’t feed the trolls!
Jardine isn’t my boy. I don’t even particularly like him. But you’re fanatical hatred for him sucked me in. You’re so blinded that you don’t realize he is the gatekeeper in that division. Does he deserve to fight T. Silva? Probably, since he just got destroyed. If he beats Jardine, he’s back on point for another run at top contender status. If not, he was never meant to be there.
I’ve never said Jardine was a title contender. He is THE gatekeeper.
As far as calling me names, come on dbiz, is that all you have? You can’t debate like an adult man? For real? I engage in numerous debates with lots of people here, we all share our different opinion wich makes it interesting and fun?
Dude heres the bottom line, Houston Alexander can lose 10 fights in a row, he still destroyed your boy Jardine, YOU CAN NEVER EVER CHANGE THAT BUDDY.
Ok dbiz,
I think we can agree on something, I would also say Jardine is a gate keeper, that does make sense and i’m not gonna argue that,
Jardine is not your boy, and i’ll say i’m an Alexander fan, but he’s not my boy like you think.
Last: I don’t have fanatical hatred for Jardine, i always just stand by the fact that he should not be getting high ranked fighters, yeah at one point he was ar the top, but not anymore.
Is that good for you? Dude i respect your opinions, you know your stuff so lets leave it at that.
chill guys =) haha lets just cut both and get this over with. I kinda like jardine though, LW’s can make a name out of him. Gatekeeper exactly.
ok well the borderline fighter bashing was pretty well handled by the all of you… Loiseau will return, Chonan will not, Bielkheden will not….
I also believe that if Houston loses his next bout he will be sent away and have to winn some bouts then he will return, he has a rather good following ie people like him, Hey guess what this is a business and he perhaps is a rather good product to distribute
Jardine is better than most LHW’s rightnow (in the world) he is having a difficult time putting together a winning streak in the toughest division in the world in the best org in the world, com’on guys like him or not he has done better than Loiseau, Chonan, MacDonald, Bielkheden etc..
*awaiting an oppritunity to pull out my stats on this situation
I already used some of them
, but held some back for you to pull out later.
OHHH MY GOD!!
1st off Dbiz and I agree on a topic!!!
2nd Again MK4 you do hate Jardine..
3rd Didn’t we have this exact arguement word for word on a previous page???
4th Jardine will beat T. Silva chicks, I’m willing to beat my Avatar for a week on it!!
Gonzaga should absolutely NOT be on that list!!!
Although I like the guy, Loiseau deserved to be let go. Not even my Canadian bias can save him on this one. Honestly I was more upset with MacDonald being cut. Either way, the UFC is the best and only the best should be fighting there. Although I fundamentally disagree with the way UFC does their contracts (another topic for another day), they have the right, nay, the duty to cut underperformers and promote winners.
That aside, I hate to say it, but until Jardine beats Alexander he’ll never be able to say he’s better than him. Houston beat Keith – bad – plain and simple. And for the record, I like both fighters. Jardine just has a hard time against guys who come out heavy handed, swinging for the fences. I would like to see a Jardine vs Alexander rematch.
And Turk: on what list are you reading Gonzaga? I’m also a HUGE Gonzaga fan, but until that guy beats a somebody again, he might be on the cutting block soon (Yeah, I know he KO’d Cro Cop, but that was YEARS ago).
He’s looking at this list by marvelknight4
1. Onlytrue1, dude i don’t hate Jardine, if you look back at past topics that we’ve discussed i have always given him credit for his “never say die” attitude and his heart in the octagon. I stand by my point that he’s not a top 205 fighter and is overrated,, that does not mean i think he’s the worst fighter. I feel i’ve made my point, and will drop this Jardine talk for good.
2. Off Topic: Dbiz and I conversate all the time, we disagree on topics and agree on others, that’s what IMO makes this a great place to be. I enjoy clashing with you guys about different topics, however Onltrue1, i have my thoughts on various MMA topics, if you disagree, bring it and we’ll debate on it. No need for personal attacks, just prove me wrong.
3. Thiago Silva is going to destroy Jardine, if he doesn’t than you can say whatever you want, Silva is coming off a tough loss to Machida, he’s going to come in a bit more cautious than in the Machida fight, his base is his ground game, Jardine’s base is striking, Thiago will take him down and pound him out or apply a sub, and when that happens you will see that i do have a point about Jardine.
4. If Jardine does lose, it is possible that he can be matched up against Houston Alexander again and we’ll see if the first fight really was a fluke.
MK4
Don’t worry kid I dont do personal attacks {unless provoked}
I love to debate as well and yes you have your oppinions and should express them, no matter how wrong you are {lol} or not.
I am sometimes {alot of times} very far left fields with some of the stuff I say, trust me on this but I find it sooo much fun to discuss MMA with others who appreicate the sport..
So whatever we discuss homey dont take this stuff personal at all. Honestly I am very tame and watch what I type now compared to what I use to post Man!!! Ask Kris, or Justin or my dog FR702!!
But still like I said before anyone said it here Jardine is a GREAT Gate Keeper He has a all around Game and He is tough as nail so he is valid and neccesary for the UFC at LHW. And he is going to beat your boy… Good stuff
Onlytrue1
I’ll take that bet. I’ll bet my avatar for a week. I bet thiago will
help jardine continue his streak of decision, ko, decision ko.
Jardine is the gatekeeper. Gatekeepers shouldn’t fight top level lhws. Thiago got his ass ko’d by “the dragon”, but that was his first loss and it was to the guy who’s going to fight for the title. Jardine, just got his ass kicked by my boy rampage, and previously beat “the truth” by decision. And let’s not forget what happened before that fight, so anyone who’s keeping up with the “rankings” would agree that jardine DOES NOT deserve to fight thiago. Don’t agree? Well ask Joe silva why he FIRST HAD FORREST NOT JARDINE FIGHTING THIAGO.
“he fades back, he shoots, and HE SCORES!”
No personal attacks. – Justin
And then Joe Silva decided Forrest was miles ahead of T. Silva and gave him a better fight – one more fitting of his standing. And don’t forget, Silva suffered a more brutal KO than most of Jardine’s. Nice airball.
Wow I’m telling you guys if me and Dbiz agree on a topic, man you need to stamp that in Gold!!
Dbiz is right, I cant put it no better then that… By the way {nice airball} priceless!!
Jazzkok
If we beat then you have already lost.. Jardine lost his last fight by decision to Rampage, not KO…. Sooo technically speaking you lose.
I’m gonna do the Fr702 method {best I can no disrespect fr702}
Keith Jardine
TKO – Winner vs Forrest Griffin
Tko – Loser vs Houston Alexander
UD – Winner vs Chuck Liddel
Tko – Loser vs Wanderlei Silva
Tko – Winner vs Brandon Vera
Tko – Loser vs Quinton Jackson
Man took me all day!!! I hope I made you proud Fr702 and Justin
Hey I tried!!!
Notable wins not mentioned Mike who the ****is Whitehead by ud Wilson Gouviea by ud Kerry Schall by tko Notable loses Stephen Bonnar by ud and W. silva by decapitation and YES A. Houston by ccccccccccooooommmmbbbbooooo breaker!!!
But you notice the trend win loss win loss win loss so since last he lost to Rampage technically he should win against Thiago {who has he fought and won to deserve so much credit} Silva!!
But I said all that to say I’ll Take your bet Homey!!!
Jardine was SD winner over Vera. For future reference, you can often find a fighter’s record at Wikipedia and/or Sherpup’s FightFinder.
Thx’s Justin
I knew I was being” pretentious” when I tried to do that!!!
But your right I mess up on that one!!!