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	<title>Comments on: Post-UFC 97 Press Conference: White Says Liddell is Finished Fighting, Fight Night Bonuses, and More</title>
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		<title>By: Vinz_Clortho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinz_Clortho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 15:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I have been gone for quite some time.  Just had to comment.  on this because it made me laugh so fucking hard.  So yah, sure a champ may have lack luster fights that are so boring they make you want to claw your own eyes out.

I&#039;ll give you that.. sometimes championship fights can be trash because of the match-up, etc.  One thing I have never seen is anyone in the p4p king mix have a fight that boring.  It would never happen because everyone else who is in the p4p mix is ALWAYS looking to finish fights.  Anderson proved he is not AND SAID IT HIMSELF.  Just looking to win fights does not put you in the p4p heap.

So this means we can all stop throwing Anderson in with the real fighters in the p4p rankings.  Kthnx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I have been gone for quite some time.  Just had to comment.  on this because it made me laugh so ****ing hard.  So yah, sure a champ may have lack luster fights that are so boring they make you want to claw your own eyes out.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give you that.. sometimes championship fights can be trash because of the match-up, etc.  One thing I have never seen is anyone in the p4p king mix have a fight that boring.  It would never happen because everyone else who is in the p4p mix is ALWAYS looking to finish fights.  Anderson proved he is not AND SAID IT HIMSELF.  Just looking to win fights does not put you in the p4p heap.</p>
<p>So this means we can all stop throwing Anderson in with the real fighters in the p4p rankings.  Kthnx.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave,Md</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave,Md</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that if Chuck wants to continue to fight he needs to change camps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that if Chuck wants to continue to fight he needs to change camps</p>
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		<title>By: sjava</title>
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		<dc:creator>sjava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you expect Dana to let Chuck just keep losing? It&#039;s got nothing to do (in this case) of Dana thinking Chuck can&#039;t make him any more money, Chuck could probably still sell a lot of PPV&#039;s just based on his name. That&#039;s not the point however. His skills have deteriorated to the point where he&#039;s not a top tier fighter anymore.

&lt;em&gt;(No personal attacks. - Justin)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you expect Dana to let Chuck just keep losing? It&#8217;s got nothing to do (in this case) of Dana thinking Chuck can&#8217;t make him any more money, Chuck could probably still sell a lot of PPV&#8217;s just based on his name. That&#8217;s not the point however. His skills have deteriorated to the point where he&#8217;s not a top tier fighter anymore.</p>
<p><em>(No personal attacks. &#8211; Justin)</em></p>
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		<title>By: sjava</title>
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		<dc:creator>sjava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude&#039;s an almost 40 yr old puncher. He doesn&#039;t have the speed and power he used to. It&#039;s not that most fighters now are faster, etc. he&#039;s just gotten older and slowed down. The Chuck of 5 years ago wouldn&#039;t have gone 1-4 in his last 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude&#8217;s an almost 40 yr old puncher. He doesn&#8217;t have the speed and power he used to. It&#8217;s not that most fighters now are faster, etc. he&#8217;s just gotten older and slowed down. The Chuck of 5 years ago wouldn&#8217;t have gone 1-4 in his last 5.</p>
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		<title>By: vet</title>
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		<dc:creator>vet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silva vs Lietes was horrible, Anderson is a counter stiker, neither would commit to the fight. Anderson could have pursued his opponent and ended the fight 3 rounds early if he would have just worked at it. Although this is not the worst fight i remember, you all should go watch Ken Shamrock vs Dan Severn walk in a circle for an hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silva vs Lietes was horrible, Anderson is a counter stiker, neither would commit to the fight. Anderson could have pursued his opponent and ended the fight 3 rounds early if he would have just worked at it. Although this is not the worst fight i remember, you all should go watch Ken Shamrock vs Dan Severn walk in a circle for an hour.</p>
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		<title>By: dunmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dunmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 04:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would be a great fight and both fighters deserve that kind of shot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would be a great fight and both fighters deserve that kind of shot</p>
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		<title>By: Babalu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Babalu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is worth stating, since it hasn&#039;t been yet, Anderson Silva said that after his last fight, he would never let that boring crap happen again. He apologized to the fans and said he was terribly disappointed in his performance. He essentially did nothing to win the fight. He landed one little shot at a time and won a boring boxing match. 

THE THING THAT MADE ME ANGRY was the way he was clowning in the 4th and 5th rounds. He was acting like he was dominating the fight and there was no domination anywhere in that fight.


CHUCK should retire when he is ready. I get tired of hearing people say that athletes &quot;ruin their legacy&quot; by sticking around too long. It simply isn&#039;t true. In the end, we remember athletes by their best performances, not their worst. Some people would say, &quot;look at Ken Shamrock&quot;. I&#039;ll say, &quot;Ken Shamrock was never 1/10th of the fighter Chuck was&quot;. Ken was a great powerful wrestler that admittedly took and abused steroids at a time when it was OK to do so by media and organizational standards. Chuck was a dominant striker that couldn&#039;t be taken down, submitted, KO&#039;d, and people were legitimately afraid of him the same way they are afraid of Anderson Silva now.

Just my two cents...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is worth stating, since it hasn&#8217;t been yet, Anderson Silva said that after his last fight, he would never let that boring crap happen again. He apologized to the fans and said he was terribly disappointed in his performance. He essentially did nothing to win the fight. He landed one little shot at a time and won a boring boxing match. </p>
<p>THE THING THAT MADE ME ANGRY was the way he was clowning in the 4th and 5th rounds. He was acting like he was dominating the fight and there was no domination anywhere in that fight.</p>
<p>CHUCK should retire when he is ready. I get tired of hearing people say that athletes &#8220;ruin their legacy&#8221; by sticking around too long. It simply isn&#8217;t true. In the end, we remember athletes by their best performances, not their worst. Some people would say, &#8220;look at Ken Shamrock&#8221;. I&#8217;ll say, &#8220;Ken Shamrock was never 1/10th of the fighter Chuck was&#8221;. Ken was a great powerful wrestler that admittedly took and abused steroids at a time when it was OK to do so by media and organizational standards. Chuck was a dominant striker that couldn&#8217;t be taken down, submitted, KO&#8217;d, and people were legitimately afraid of him the same way they are afraid of Anderson Silva now.</p>
<p>Just my two cents&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chrisl</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Dos Santos is two fights away from a shot he needs to face someone like Velasquez or carwin and then Kongo. Then I&#039;d be all for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Dos Santos is two fights away from a shot he needs to face someone like Velasquez or carwin and then Kongo. Then I&#8217;d be all for it.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzkok</title>
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		<dc:creator>jazzkok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with you on the fact that fights like this title match will occasionaly happen. But damn dude this was the worst title match in history dude wtf? i can&#039;t believe how wrong i was thinkin leites would pull off an upset.

I hella want to see gsp vs silva in catch w or mw, i don&#039;t care that fight would be sick but first my boy needs to get past thiago alves.

I won&#039;t say i told you so to anyone, but for chuck lidell&#039;s sake and for the sake of his awesome career, it&#039;s about time he hangs up the gloves. He should be a commentator or start his own show or something. You know dana&#039;s gonna hook him up since their boys. I&#039;m happy shogun showd better skills and improvement and i can&#039;t wait for shogun to fight top fighters.

I think shane carwin should fight jumior dos santos and the winnner of that should a get a title shot. I think kongo should get the winner of mir vs lesnar. Cain vs heath should also be in the imx for the hw title</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with you on the fact that fights like this title match will occasionaly happen. But damn dude this was the worst title match in history dude wtf? i can&#8217;t believe how wrong i was thinkin leites would pull off an upset.</p>
<p>I hella want to see gsp vs silva in catch w or mw, i don&#8217;t care that fight would be sick but first my boy needs to get past thiago alves.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t say i told you so to anyone, but for chuck lidell&#8217;s sake and for the sake of his awesome career, it&#8217;s about time he hangs up the gloves. He should be a commentator or start his own show or something. You know dana&#8217;s gonna hook him up since their boys. I&#8217;m happy shogun showd better skills and improvement and i can&#8217;t wait for shogun to fight top fighters.</p>
<p>I think shane carwin should fight jumior dos santos and the winnner of that should a get a title shot. I think kongo should get the winner of mir vs lesnar. Cain vs heath should also be in the imx for the hw title</p>
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		<title>By: chrisl</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silva sets everything up of smaller shots which progress into the Thai Clinch and then when people try to fight out of the clinch and expose themselves he finishes. Leites kept going down or trying to pull guard when Silva went for the Thai clinch. Leites wasn&#039;t going to allow him to tee off on him. That&#039;s why he kept going down. Leites isn&#039;t exciting but he&#039;s not dumb either. It was a bad match-up no doubt but it is MMA and these fights will happen occasionally. It&#039;s up to the UFC to make sure to not have these as their main event fights.

Plus the problem I have w/ Silva moving weight classes all the time means guys that earn shots will not be able to get them. I am not a fan of a GSP-Anderson catch weight fight because what does it prove? Anderson is walking around at 215-220 already and GSP is around 180. That doesn&#039;t work for me, Okami deserves a shot more than anyone in my opinion and I do not get why he&#039;s not getting any love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silva sets everything up of smaller shots which progress into the Thai Clinch and then when people try to fight out of the clinch and expose themselves he finishes. Leites kept going down or trying to pull guard when Silva went for the Thai clinch. Leites wasn&#8217;t going to allow him to tee off on him. That&#8217;s why he kept going down. Leites isn&#8217;t exciting but he&#8217;s not dumb either. It was a bad match-up no doubt but it is MMA and these fights will happen occasionally. It&#8217;s up to the UFC to make sure to not have these as their main event fights.</p>
<p>Plus the problem I have w/ Silva moving weight classes all the time means guys that earn shots will not be able to get them. I am not a fan of a GSP-Anderson catch weight fight because what does it prove? Anderson is walking around at 215-220 already and GSP is around 180. That doesn&#8217;t work for me, Okami deserves a shot more than anyone in my opinion and I do not get why he&#8217;s not getting any love.</p>
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